[04:29] <Kilos> morning superfly nuvolari and you other fellas too
[04:34] <superfly> morning Kilos
[04:35] <Kilos> thats better
[04:55] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos
[04:55] <nuvolari> bah, need to get to work
[04:56] <Kilos> hard werk seun
[04:56] <Kilos> maar geniet dit
[05:04] <superfly> Kilos: oom, did you see I've been doing a little more work on my blog?
[05:16] <Kilos> nope superfly been trying to stretch data. but will go look now quick
[05:16] <Kilos> Maaz, superfly.blog
[05:16] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly.blog is http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
[05:16] <superfly> no, not that one
[05:16] <Kilos> oh
[05:16] <superfly> Kilos: my latest blog entry was "Yay! It works! Need I say more?"
[05:16] <Kilos> 365?
[05:17] <superfly> ja
[05:17] <Kilos> code 365
[05:17] <Kilos> you got link please
[05:17] <Kilos> i bit sore to hunt
[05:18] <Kilos> had a mild attacking of heart yest
[05:18] <superfly> Kilos: don't worry about it, like I said, all I said in my last blog post was, "Yay! It works! Need I say more?"
[05:18] <Kilos> ok. what works??
[05:19] <superfly> Kilos: selecting an image to display
[05:19] <Kilos> ah
[05:19] <Kilos> i was there last week
[05:19] <superfly> you click on the insert image button, and then the browse button, and then it shows a nice little file browser where you can select your file
[05:19] <Kilos> i must have it book marked somewhere
[05:20] <Kilos> great
[05:20] <Kilos> i hate the picasa add to blogspot
[05:20] <superfly> the next part is to get file uploading working
[05:20] <superfly> which shouldn't be too difficult
[05:20] <Kilos> ah
[05:21] <Kilos> forget playing with the snake and get 365 back on track
[05:21] <Kilos> i dunno if you told what kind even
[05:22] <Kilos> just saw a bit with you and wedwo about corn snakes
[05:22] <superfly> ja, he's a corn snake
[05:22] <superfly> very relaxed
[05:22] <Kilos> where you gonna get corn for him
[05:23] <Kilos> kellogs
[05:23] <Kilos> ?
[05:23] <Kilos> very healthy and not fattening
[05:23] <Kilos> hehe
[05:23] <superfly> haha
[05:23] <superfly> no, they eat mice
[05:24] <Kilos> now you gotta keep mice too
[05:24] <Kilos> they stink
[05:24] <Kilos> you will spend your 365 time cleaning cages
[05:25] <superfly> no, I buy frozen mice from a pet store
[05:25] <Kilos> lol
[05:25] <Kilos> rofl
[05:25] <Kilos> thats a new one
[05:25] <superfly> Kilos: if I had more than about 3 snakes, I'd think about breeding mice myself
[05:25] <Kilos> snakes eat frozen foods too
[05:26] <superfly> but it's not worth it for only 1 snake
[05:26] <Kilos> ok
[05:28] <Kilos> if you like i will catch you a nice big rinkhalls
[05:28] <Kilos> rinkals
[05:28] <Kilos> daai dint\
[05:28] <Kilos> grrr
[05:28] <Kilos> daai ding
[05:29] <superfly> Kilos: no thanks, I'm good with just a corn snake for now
[05:29] <superfly> "rinkhals"
[05:29] <Kilos> ja daai ding wat spoeg
[05:30] <Kilos> en eiers eet en skape en honde en hoenders dood byt
[05:34] <Kilos> lo oomkoos 
[05:34] <oomkoos> good morning Kilos
[05:34] <oomkoos> how you doing today?
[05:34] <Kilos> is the oom good this morning
[05:35] <Kilos> im alive still ty
[05:35] <oomkoos> well it's getting closer to Friday so i'm starting to get better and better every hour :)
[05:36] <Kilos> lol great
[05:36]  * Kilos likes calling someone oom
[05:36] <nuvolari> whut? today is wednesday??? already?
[05:36]  * nuvolari gooi 'n vloermoer
[05:36] <Kilos> you too busy nuvolari 
[05:36] <oomkoos> lol
[05:37] <Kilos> nuvolari,  kry n appie
[05:37] <Kilos> you mustnt overdo it
[05:37] <nuvolari> Kilos: die probleem is ek *is* die appie
[05:38] <Kilos> eish. been there done that
[06:36] <nlsthzn> hi all
[06:37] <maiatoday> hi nlsthzn
[06:37] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[06:37] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:37] <Kilos> hi maiatoday 
[06:38] <nlsthzn> Kilos: maiatoday hiya :)
[06:38] <Kilos> lol
[06:39] <Kilos> i used to say hiys first but the today spoiled the effect
[06:39] <Kilos> hiya
[06:41] <nlsthzn> what today spoiled it?
[06:42] <Kilos> the today at the end of maiai
[06:42] <Kilos> eish
[06:42] <Kilos> maia
[06:42] <maiatoday> hehe
[06:43] <maiatoday> nothing is spoiled, just a bit different
[06:43] <nlsthzn> :)
[06:43] <Kilos> ok then hiystoday maiatoday 
[06:43] <Kilos> eish
[06:43] <Kilos> hiyatoday maiatoday 
[06:44] <Kilos> my internal torrents are working too good tween head and hands
[06:46] <Kilos> was told about apt-offline. looks like it might be better than aptoncd
[06:46] <Kilos> aptoncd still needs to get updates
[06:47] <Kilos> last aptoncd hit me 400m
[06:48] <nlsthzn> Kilos: looking to build an offline stash of all applications so you can save your cap?
[06:49] <Kilos> yip. this lucid not too happy since i messed up with chown  and tumbles had to do a repair for me
[06:49] <maiatoday> Just a reminder for everybody: the Geeknic is on Sunday. I'll figure out how to set the topic, when I get a chance. We meet at the main gates at kirstenbosch at 10. People can mail me if they need more info.
[06:49] <Kilos> and i have the maverick cd here burning holes in everything
[06:50] <nlsthzn> pity ubuntu doesn't have the same set of DVD/CD's like Debian with just about everything on it
[06:50] <superfly> it has a DVD which has a lot more packages, but yeah, it doesn't have debian's CD set
[06:51] <nlsthzn> Ubuntu has a DVD?
[06:51] <Kilos> you can get ubuntu dvds but i dunno if they also want to do updates
[06:51] <Kilos> lol im too slow
[06:54] <superfly> nlsthzn: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[06:55] <superfly> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/10.10/release/
[06:56] <nlsthzn> ah, additional language packs
[06:59] <Kilos> Vhata, whats news with you eina's
[06:59] <Kilos> s/you/your
[07:01] <Kilos> had my first heart attack yesterday and the nitro pills near took top of head off
[07:01] <superfly> Kilos: eating too much red meat again?
[07:01] <superfly> :-P
[07:01] <superfly> just kidding
[07:01] <Kilos> lol
[07:01] <nlsthzn> oO
[07:02] <Kilos> rofl
[07:03] <Kilos> superfly, im O blood group. we supposed to eat lotsa red meat. methinks its from not enough
[07:04] <superfly> Kilos: yes, but red meat contains the most cholestrol, and it's cholestrol causes heart attacks
[07:04] <superfly> coupled with lots of salt
[07:04] <Kilos> eish
[07:04] <Kilos> eat lotsa salt to stop cramps
[07:05] <Kilos> will be lost if there no salt in the happy hunting grounds
[07:09] <Kilos> may be better to cyber braai and drink cyber coffee
[07:10]  * nlsthzn thinks less cyber salt for Kilos 
[07:10] <Kilos> lol
[07:12] <Kilos> nlsthzn, whats the food like there
[07:12] <Kilos> boet complains in saudi
[07:15] <nlsthzn> pretty good... can find most of the stuff you would find in SA (some shops here with lots of SA products)... so many expats you have lots of different food types to choose from (big american fast food influence in the big cities)
[07:15] <Kilos> ah
[09:14] <maiatoday> what was the script one could run to make an iso from a mirror of the repos?
[09:17] <maiatoday> no worries, found it
[11:12] <Kilos> hee hee i am sure there must be someone from home affairs that lurks here and hears me winging
[11:13] <Kilos> my unabridged birth certificate that was supposed to take from 6 to 8 weeks is available
[11:13] <Kilos> and im sure its less than 2 weeks
[11:13] <Kilos> \o/
[11:19] <superfly> eish, I must still phone them about zak_attack's
[11:20] <superfly> been so busy :-(
[11:20] <Kilos> they sent you an sms superfly 
[11:20] <Kilos> send
[11:30] <superfly> Kilos: ja, I know... I made a mistake on the form, so I need to get that fix
[11:30] <superfly> *fixed
[11:32] <Kilos> eish
[11:33] <Kilos> the fly doesnt make mistakes
[11:33] <Kilos> ah it has to be done with a pen
[11:33] <Kilos> hehe
[11:36] <corrie206> superfly: what mistake? my dad registered me under the wrong name. so I had to have a name change done when I was 5weeks old or something.
[11:36] <Kilos> hi corrie206 
[11:38] <corrie206> hey Kilos you well?
[11:38] <Kilos> yes ty corrie206 and you?
[11:39] <corrie206> Kilos: busy busy
[11:39] <corrie206> gettting towards end of the year, so everyone, wants everything yesterday
[11:40] <Kilos> eish
[11:45] <superfly> corrie206: we need his unabridged birth certificate, and I swapped 2 digits in zak_attack's id number by mistake
[11:45] <superfly> so it's fine, no problem with his birth cert
[11:46] <superfly> I just need to phone in and give them the correct ID number
[11:47] <corrie206> superfly: ah ok
[11:48] <Kilos> lol
[11:48] <Kilos> corrie206, did your dad register you as corrie205
[11:48] <superfly> hahaha
[11:49] <corrie206> bwhahaha!
[11:49] <corrie206> noooo
[11:49] <Kilos> sorry. couldnt keep that in
[11:50] <corrie206> skerp
[11:50] <maiatoday> hehe like stitch in lilo and stitch= experiment206
[11:51] <Kilos> corrie was an experiment that turned out larger than planned
[11:51] <corrie206> hahaha
[11:51] <corrie206> ok, thats putting some smiles on my face
[11:52] <corrie206> I was manufactured in a secrect CIA lab, build for World Domination....my only weakness was pancakes.
[11:52] <Kilos> hee hee hee
[11:53] <maiatoday> oh no now I wish I had some pancakes to eat
[11:53]  * Kilos thinks we all have that weakness
[11:53] <corrie206> maiatoday: had the pancake-itch all bloody day
[11:53] <Kilos> must be the climate
[11:53] <Tonberry> pancakes!!!!
[11:54] <Kilos> see
[11:54] <Kilos> its a virulent virus
[11:54] <corrie206> see? its a epidemic!
[11:54] <Kilos> lol
[11:55] <maiatoday> intercontinental pan-demic
[11:56] <Kilos> but such a lekker one
[11:58] <superfly> golly, corrie206, now you're infecting me!
[11:59] <corrie206> I'll need to shop this afternoon, think some chicken livers.
[11:59] <Kilos> yum
[12:00] <superfly> ok, not hungry any more... liver, ugh
[12:00] <maiatoday> ag cinnamon and sugar is good enough for me, kameelsuiker
[12:00] <Kilos> yip
[12:01] <maiatoday> and maybe a drop of lemon juice
[12:04] <confluency> Fortunately I grew to like liver spread before I knew it was made from liver. :D
[12:04] <Kilos> ha ha
[12:04] <confluency> I don't like liver chunks, though.
[12:11] <Kilos> me tries something i think is new
[12:11] <Kilos> curried scrambled eggs
[12:13] <Kilos> curry needs frying and cooking a while so we frying onions with the curry and some garlic
[12:14] <corrie206> maiatoday: thats pudding
[12:14] <Kilos> then when done will do the eggs in it
[12:27] <sakhi> I have an FTP server with .docx documents and when I download the files with Firefox I am able to read them but when I download using IE I get them as .zip and I cannot read the documents.
[12:28] <superfly> sakhi: I only have one question: Why are you using IE? :-P
[12:29] <sakhi> other users refuse to use firefox...I have to make them happy too.
[12:47] <Kilos> google how to open .docx files with windows
[12:47] <Kilos> eish
[12:47] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to open .docx files with windows
[12:47] <Maaz> Kilos: "Ways to open Office .docx documents" http://www.ghacks.net/2007/12/10/ways-to-open-office-docx-documents/ :: "Download details: Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack for Word ..." http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466 :: "I have windows 7 but I cannot open .docx documents" http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7files/thread/43ac5838-8243-495d-8471-628fc9d65d69 :: "How
[12:47] <Kilos> good luck sakhi 
[12:49] <Kilos> when did we get a log bot on here?
[12:49] <superfly> sakhi: also, you're asking a bunch of linux users a windows question
[12:53] <Kilos> wheres sakhi  now
[12:53] <Kilos> sakhi, ^^^ others have had the same prob. maybe theres an answer in above links
[12:56] <Tonberry> sound more like a broken ftp client in IE than a problem with .docx
[12:58] <Tonberry>  .docx is the default file format for ms office 2007 and probably onwards
[13:00] <Kilos> ah maybe they using office 2003
[13:01] <Tonberry> I have an FTP server with .docx documents and when I download the files with Firefox I am able to read them but when I download using IE I get them as .zip and I cannot read the documents.
[13:01] <Kilos> does ubuntu open .docx files?
[13:01] <Tonberry> sounds like the tests were done on the same pc
[13:01] <Tonberry> so doubtful
[13:01] <Tonberry> i think open office can
[13:02] <Kilos> if so he can advise them to use openoffice
[13:02] <Kilos> methinks you can get it on windows too?
[13:03] <Tonberry> yes but i doubt the version of office is the problem here
[13:03] <confluency> sakhi: what do you mean, you get them as .zip?  They're called something.zip, or they're called something.docx but they're zip files?  What happens if you unzip them?
[13:05] <Tonberry> are non .docx files also downloaded as .zip?
[13:06] <superfly> aren't docx files zipped like odt files?
[13:06] <superfly> in that case, no wonder IE is downloading them as zip files, they are zip files
[13:06] <superfly> it's just that IE is renaming the file to .zip
[13:07] <Tonberry> seems that they are
[13:07] <Tonberry> then i stand by broken/stupid ftp client
[13:10] <confluency> https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=docx+zip
[13:12] <confluency> sakhi: what FTP server?
[13:13] <confluency> Somehow IE is screwing up the mimetype.  I don't know how IE determines the mimetype of files downloaded through FTP.
[13:25] <confluency> sakhi: it probably guesses, or uses some kind of file association setting.  I suspect it has to be fixed on the user side.
[13:25] <confluency> In the meantime, your users should be able to save the files and rename them.
[13:25] <confluency> IE --
[13:26] <confluency> Unfortunately all the related problems I've found refer to files downloaded through HTTP, and you can set a mimetype on the server to fix that.  As far as I know, FTP doesn't do server-side mimetypes.
[13:36] <sakhi> hi sorry... was with the client. I'm using vsftp.
[13:37] <sakhi> IE -- you right.
[13:38] <sakhi> FF ++
[17:24] <nlsthzn> hi all
[17:25] <superfly> evening nlsthzn
[17:27] <nlsthzn> superfly: how is it going?
[18:38] <nlsthzn> so, who else saw the thread on the Ubuntu forum about the possibilty of Ubuntu becoming a rolling release?
[18:39]  * drubin 
[18:40] <nlsthzn> any thoughts? I can't see it happening...
[18:43] <drubin> I see it breaking some things and others being better
[18:43] <nlsthzn> there are pro's and con's... not sure the pro's outweight the cons tough...
[21:12] <inetpro> good evening
[21:13] <nlsthzn> inetpro: hello
[21:13] <inetpro> nlsthzn: howzit
[21:14] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. catcha again morrow time
[21:14] <inetpro> Kilos: heh
[21:14] <inetpro> jy moeg?
[21:15] <inetpro> gone
[21:15] <inetpro> probably afraid that I will keep him up longer :-)
[21:16] <nlsthzn> all good...
[21:16] <nlsthzn> and in ZA land?
[21:16] <inetpro> how do I work out the power capacity needed to run a few computers, photostat machines and other office space basics?
[21:17]  * inetpro looking into acquiring a small generator for the school
[21:18] <nlsthzn> I have heard of people using some sort of calculator to work out the max requirements etc. but haven't done it myself and not sure where to get something like that...
[21:22] <inetpro> eish, everyone else sleeping already?
[21:22] <inetpro> nlsthzn: this place is way to quiet these days
[21:23] <inetpro> time to shake things up again :-)
[21:27] <nlsthzn> Tell me how and I am in :)
[21:28] <drubin> inetpro: School still having power outs?
[21:29] <inetpro> drubin: yep, and it's the time of year when big stress is painted on everyones faces
[21:30] <nlsthzn> but schools about done... why not let everyone go home already
[21:30] <inetpro> nlsthzn: that's one of the good points raised by some members
[21:31] <inetpro> fact is that if you keep postponing the issue it will never be acquired
[21:32] <nlsthzn> well, my daughter was only going to come and visit from the 11th due to school closing the 10th, but they heard now from the 1st nothing happining at school so she coming almost two weeks EARLY!!! so I am chuffed
[21:32] <inetpro> the other fact is that a power failure is very disruptive
[21:34] <inetpro> especially when teachers are busy marking stuffs and using spreadsheets to consolidate...
[21:35] <nlsthzn> all teachers should get laptops with extra long life batteries (i am sure they will aprove)
[21:41] <inetpro> nlsthzn: schools don't have a lot of money to work with
[21:41] <nlsthzn> I know... wife is a (ex) teacher form a small school in Mpumalanga... 
[21:42] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you should include the nick of the user that you're talking with in your posting
[21:43] <inetpro> that way I will get a ping alert when you talk to me
[21:43] <inetpro> while I'm busy on something else
[21:44] <nlsthzn> inetpro: ok... sorry... (almost did it again) :D
[21:45] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you do know about tab completion?
[21:46] <nlsthzn> inetpro: yup, first thing I learnt (and it was from this channel)
[21:46] <inetpro> nlsthzn: ahh, just thought I'll point it out
[21:47]  * inetpro is trying to multitask even though it's not possible to do that
[21:47] <nlsthzn> inetpro: Cause your a guy... will stop bugging you then :p
[21:48] <inetpro> nlsthzn: hehe :-)
[21:49] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you're welcome to bug me
[21:50] <inetpro> would have logged off if I didn't want to be disturbed
[22:00] <drubin> fp
[22:01] <nlsthzn> drubin: fp?
[22:01] <wedwo-> inetpro, look at the rating of the appliance (computer, printer w/e), add them all up and the generator must be able to produce about 500 to 1000 wats more than the total
[22:02] <inetpro> wedwo-: great, that helps. Thanks
[22:02] <wedwo-> inetpro, the extra wattage requirements are for resistance (in the wiring circuits) and startup surge from appliances
[22:03] <wedwo-> inetpro, if the computer case doesen't have the wattage printed there you can search the web for specs and find the wattage of the PSU (power supply unit).
[22:05] <nlsthzn> wedwo-: but even if I have a 850w psu does it mean it will pull that much (or it has the potential to pull that much)?
[22:05] <wedwo-> inetpro, it has the potential
[22:07] <wedwo-> nlsthzn, sorry, ^^ was for you
[22:08] <nlsthzn> wedwo-: np, just asking... seeing as it is for a school I doubt any of them will have any PSU that are to much over the limit needed for the machine (inlike a lot of gaming rigs out there)
[22:12] <wedwo-> nlsthzn, I believe, being a school, that the greatest potential resistance will be from red tape
[22:18] <inetpro> wedwo-: red tape?
[22:19] <inetpro> eish, look at the time
[22:19]  * inetpro needs sleep
[22:19] <inetpro> bye
[22:21] <nlsthzn> wedwo-: always paparwork
[22:21] <nlsthzn> *paperwork
[22:29] <wedwo-> inetpro, hehe red tape = rompslomp
[23:18] <drubin> nlsthzn: http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/ubuntu-is-not-moving-to-rolling-release.html 
[23:18] <drubin> Maaz: tell tonberry http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/ubuntu-is-not-moving-to-rolling-release.html
[23:18] <Maaz> drubin: Yessir
[23:53] <nlsthzn> drubin: Thanks, already saw and even posted the link on the forum thread :)