[00:00] yofel: that would lead me much more to believe that there is some sort of conflict in the most recent updates from the kubuntu ppa & opengl rendering (at least when using the proprietary nvidia drivers) [00:02] hm, I have maverick with kde 4.5.3 and nvidia 260.19.21 running on a geforce 250GTS - works fine [00:07] yofel: interesting. and you have ALL the latest updates installed from the ppa, and have rebooted? [00:11] from the updates ppa yes === james is now known as Guest78367 === Guest78367 is now known as jmichaelx [00:22] <_Techie_> what file browser does kubuntu use? [00:23] Dolphin === KimLaRoux is now known as KimLaroux === Guest85340 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest55420 === Guest55420 is now known as Guest85340 [01:02] Hello [01:03] I got a rather annoying issue with Kubuntu on my eee-PC 1005HA. Maybe there is some one out there who can help me fix it? [01:03] I seem unable to get my mobile data connection to work using the KDE network manager. [01:06] No matter what I try, it just tries to establish a mobile connection. Next, the mobile icon/tab completely disappears for a while and then just comes back and says "not connected". [01:07] I have tried entering different numbers in the "number" field. APN name is surfo2 and my provider is o2 Germany. [01:07] I have tried to manually change MRU and MTU values to 1440 as suggested somewhere but that did not make a difference either. [01:09] Stock ubuntu with gnome can connect over mobile data without a hassle so I figure it's the KDE network manager. :( [01:14] hey I'm stuck at KDE 4.5.1 here on Maverick... is that hte latest version? [01:15] hmmmm according to apt-cache policy, it is. [01:15] how do I up that? [01:15] I thought the PPA build is not 100% working (desk jmichaelx top effects) [01:15] ectoscape: bwahaha I mid-read your nick as ectoscope initially ;) [01:16] nah, don't do that. :P [01:16] It's ectoscape; at your service. :) [01:17] =) [01:17] nice to meetcha [01:18] You would not happen to have an idea about my mobile data connection issues? Digging in google it seems that there is some sort of bug with KDE network manager on mobile data connections since Kubuntu 9.04 [01:18] It's ok, I've used nicknames like JelliedMisery [01:18] and its converse, CongealedHappiness [01:18] ectoscape: oh I do not know about that [01:18] thar be black magic and all [01:18] damned [01:18] :/ [01:19] aye :( [01:19] I cannot log into irc #kubuntu using quassel. It tells me: You have a host listed in the DroneBL.. What was that? [01:23] alriht then. I guess I am off to bed. gn8 y'all. === ectoscape is now known as ecto_zzZZ [01:27] freename: don't worry, you're not missing much, use xchat and be happy :) [01:27] re: I cannot log into irc #kubuntu using quassel. [01:29] Roey: Do you know why is that? What's happening? [01:30] it tells me: You are banned from this server- You have a host listed in the DroneBL. For more information, visit dronebl.org/lookup_branded.do?ip=222.124.3.11 Please contact proxyscan@freenode.net with questions. But my IP is 222.124.3.14...?? [01:32] freename: i highly recommend konversation, btw.... although that will not necessarily help you with the problem you were having [01:33] Roey: i had been using kde4.5.3 very happily on my PC at work... it was only after today's updates that things went somewhat awry [01:33] konvi ftw [01:33] 4.5.3 ftw [01:33] dh_* for the fail.. [01:34] dh_? [01:34] debian's grand packaging system. helper utils. [01:34] ahh [01:34] some 6000+ lines of perl that run every time you install/upgrade/remove a pkg [01:34] godawful imo.. [01:34] chakra ftw ;) [01:35] have never used chakra.... good kde distro? [01:35] not yet [01:36] djustice: i have to say, though... i have not yet used a gnu/linux flavor which had a package management system i liked better than debian's [01:37] i try to use aptoncd for offline installation, i burn it into cd-rw. but when i try to add cd-rom on software sources, it says: Error scanning the CD E:Failed to mount the cdrom. [01:38] freename: that is strange [01:40] a few hours ago, I cannot update software on kpackagekit from main server.. [01:41] woa... >> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/ubuntu-becoming-rolling-release-distro.html [01:41] freename: does your machine have a network connection? [01:42] jmichaelx: http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/ubuntu-is-not-moving-to-rolling-release.html [01:43] I have a super slow connection. but it still work annother day.. [01:43] silly webupd8 [01:43] ty Pici [01:44] jmichaelx: you're welcome. [01:44] freename: you may just need to change which mirrors you are using [01:48] does it have any relation to aptoncd i cannot mount? [01:49] freename: it shouldn't [01:49] freename: i have never used aptoncd, but that should definitely work [01:51] freename: did you follow any tutorials, or other documentation, in trying to get started with aptoncd? [01:54] no i dont. just go to work. based on offline help ubuntu. my predict on doing. [01:54] offline installation help ubuntu [01:58] things that make me confuse was, quassel tells me to go to dronebl.org. when i follow the link, it tells me: "infected with a spambot or other associated drone: run antivirus software on your machine." Is that true? [02:20] Anybody familiar with how grub-mkconfig works? It gives me the error of 'no such partition' No idea how it works though [02:22] i'm not familiar with grub-mkconfig sea4ever, but what are you trying to do? [02:22] Trying to figure out where it fails so that I can make it work again [02:23] Right now I'm reading through it, I think I can figure this out [02:23] have you tried the -o option? [02:23] sounds like it's trying to save to a partition that is non existent.. try specifying a save as location sea4ever [02:24] Changing the output file? Nah no difference. It doesn't fully work, it exits with status of..1 [02:24] I tried the -o ./test.conf anyway, still exits with status of 1. [02:28] I think I found where it exits. This line here: "grub-probe --target=fs /" <- I tried it myself, and it says "no such partition" [02:28] Which is kinda odd, considering that 'grub-probe --target=device /' works just fine. === Guest85340 is now known as RaNdY [02:29] where are you from? === RaNdY is now known as Guest42737 === Guest42737 is now known as Guest85340 [02:46] jmichaelx: seem i should reinstall my system again... [03:07] Does grub have problems with ext4 or something [03:07] ? [03:08] nope === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === markey_ is now known as markey [03:23] HI [03:23] could someone tell me if there's a graphical exif viewer for linux [03:23] or name one such program? :D [03:26] surunveri: just the exif data? gwenview, digikam, heck you can configure Dolphin to do so as well [03:26] surunveri: Kubuntu has gwenview already [03:26] sorry i dont know much about anything complicated [03:26] but gwenview can do that? [03:26] that's cool :D [03:27] all of them should, I would imagine [03:27] hmm [03:27] how can i view them with gwenview? :D [03:29] surunveri: open a picture and see :) you may have to click on the "more" link in gwenview's Information tab to specify what info to view by default [03:30] * claydoh wanders off for food [03:31] hm [03:32] i cant find that information tab or themore option :D [03:33] found it sorry.. thx :D [03:38] does anyone use rekonq as their default browser? [03:59] I have this really annoying phenomenon on ubuntu where the window animation slows down and speeds up when I click on the resize buttons. (It's running on virtual box). Any solutions? [03:59] I'm running 10.10 [03:59] *kubuntu === Guest85340 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest53313 === Guest53313 is now known as Guest85340 === katz is now known as MouselessRoey [04:11] hi [04:12] My mouse stopped moving. The device appears on, but my mouse just stopped moving. It is frozen in position with Fluxbox as well. I moved it to different USB ports; same thing. The light underneath the mouse is on when I move it, and the lens appears clear. What is this about? [04:12] I mean it's not a Kubuntu thing [04:12] I just wonder if it can detect input from the mouse [04:12] I don't even know which device to cat [04:12] /dev/mouse? [04:13] are you able to tab your way around the systemsettings and check out the mouse settings? [04:13] maybe disable / reenable or something? [04:13] I have no mousing capability whatsoever [04:13] I could test with another mouse but I don't have a usable second one [04:13] systemsettings can work by keyboard [04:14] I think it's the physical device [04:14] Where can I find libdvdcss ? [04:15] !dvd [04:15] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:15] maco: and I only have one usabletty [04:15] er... what happened to the rest? [04:15] ?!?! [04:15] they appear blank [04:16] and in Windows the mouse is also frozen [04:16] seroiusly I suspect the device [04:16] I just don't have another mouse to test that theory out :( [04:16] i think the "broken in windows too" test proves your theory [04:16] so we know it's not a linux problem [04:17] can it only be the mouse? [04:17] what if the hardware accepting the USB connection is ignoring it? [04:17] like, a logic problem not a port problem [04:17] do usb flash drives work? [04:17] er dunno good idea. [04:18] I swear this just keeps getting worse and worse. [04:18] alright [04:18] see you in a bit [04:18] exit [04:18] er [04:18] MouselessRoey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:20] have the gnash shockwave plugin installed, but videos aren't loading playing, how can i get rid of this and install the adobe or gnome flash? [05:21] sudo apt-get --purge remove gnash should get rid of it [05:23] How can I change the grouping of windows in taskbar? Could find any options by right licking it or in system settings. [05:23] yup it's gone :) ty [05:24] *Couldn't [05:25] Got it, had to right click on empty space of taskbar. [05:28] where does kpackagekit install the installer for the adobe flash [05:28] I don't know for sure - maybe in /opt [05:30] thanks moetunes got my flash problem solved. [05:31] woot! [05:32] only other issue im having is when windows minimize and maximize it is really choppy.... anyway to turn off this feature or fix the chopyness? [05:36] that would prob be 'cause alot of the cpu is being used - run top in a konsole to check it while minimizing and maximising [05:42] ah ok got ya..... [06:37] im thinking about tryin about kubuntu [06:37] out [06:37] about - out [06:38] if a bug is reported does it take long for the correction? [06:39] i been using opensuse 11.3 ever since it came out [06:39] the first week a flash bug was reported [06:39] still itsnt fixxed [06:40] i loved 11.2 [06:40] not 11.3 [06:41] i just had one too many probably with opensuse 11.3 [06:41] probablems [06:41] problems* [06:43] ive had many problems geting sofware to work on it [06:43] its ridicules how man y times ive had problems [06:44] im wondering if kbunta is anygood [06:45] eroignreo0: I find kubuntu excellent [06:45] running 10.10 -- best yet [06:45] so far, everything Just Works [06:45] im not asking for the world [06:45] not has many problems [06:45] i doesnt what the hell they did with opensuse 11.3 [06:46] why not download and write to a thumbdrive [06:46] 11.2 was great [06:46] and check it out? [06:46] I understand that there is a packaging problem in 11.3 [06:46] I'm sure they will have it fixed soon [06:46] many odd problems [06:46] val, uh im not for sure about that [06:47] yes, i was talking to someone in #amarok yesterday who did 3 installs [06:47] all flawed [06:47] not sure about what? [06:47] holy crap [06:47] them actually getting around to fixin something [06:47] he came back in today and reported the error [06:47] dunno if it's fixed yet, or not [06:47] i know flash is crap [06:48] but every time you full screen it freeze [06:48] still hasnt been fix [06:48] flash works fine here in kub. [06:48] i understand its a free operation system [06:48] and they have lives [06:48] but i wish 11.3 was better [06:50] val, i know i can look it up but how does it do with intel chip sets? [06:51] hear many probably? [06:51] I suppose you can search on ubuntuforums [06:51] i know [06:51] just wondering if people have any problems [06:51] see if there are recently reported problems [06:51] like people coming in here asking [06:52] not that I've noticed [06:52] but I'm not here all the time [06:52] val, ill try you someething odd [06:52] only when I have time to help out [06:52] a asm program goes bu kasm [06:52] has the same chipset every has me [06:53] he can get a program working when i cant [06:53] same os to [06:53] he even compiled it for me [06:54] just weird crap going on with 11.3 [06:54] well, two systems which seem to be the same, are not necessarily identical [06:55] well we have the same chipset processor only differce i got the 50 dollar rebate :) [06:57] we both get a unknown classic on our 3d [06:57] both use opengl [06:58] val, thanks for your opinion [07:00] you are welcome === naught102 is now known as naught101 [07:03] hi yesterday I upgraded my 10.10 kubuntu and now x doesn't start... can anyone help? [07:04] you can check the X log to see what happened [07:05] do you mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log [07:06] yep [07:06] in a tty you do les /var/log/Xorg.0.log [07:06] in a tty you do less /var/log/Xorg.0.log [07:07] moetunes: thanks i will do it just a momento [07:07] no problemo :) [07:09] moetunes: caught signal 11 segmentation fault. server aborting [07:09] superville1: using a proprietry driver? [07:10] moetunes: yes [07:10] in last night yes :) [07:10] is that when things went wrong? [07:11] you might have got a new kernel and need to redo the driver install for that kernel [07:13] moetunes: i had used proprietary driver since 10.10 released and everything has gone great even with several upgrades - but last nights upgrade was first time when this machine does not start x. if I remember right kubuntu found the propriety driver without my help [07:14] i can try to do that kernel redo - can you give me hint how to do it? :) [07:15] superville1: ok you could try a reinstall of xorg-server [07:15] it more then likely isn't the prop driver install [07:17] i try to find commands just a momento :) [07:18] sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-xserver iirc [07:18] moetunes: thanks a lot... just a momento I try that :) [07:23] moetunes: I try to find exact package name... xorg-xserver not in the list... === Guest85340 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest61711 === Guest61711 is now known as Guest85340 [07:26] Xorg-server [07:26] not xorg-xserver [07:26] moetunes mistyped the command === muesli_ is now known as muesli [07:28] valorie: thanks... i get still the message "unable to locate package Xorg-server [07:28] strange [07:30] valorie & moetunes - i will try to solve this problem later - now to have to leav [07:31] thanks for your help === ping__luce is now known as faLUCE [07:39] heh, just checked kpackagekit [07:40] it's xserver-xorg! [07:40] !find xorg [07:40] Found: libglu1-xorg-dev, xorg, xorg-dev, xorg-docs, xorg-docs-core, xorg-sgml-doctools, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-core-dbg, xserver-xorg-dev (and 77 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xorg&searchon=names&suite=maverick§ion=all [07:44] oops :) [07:53] now we know [07:53] :-) === sean is now known as Guest21870 [08:50] hi, how do I add an application to the desktop? so far the only way I found is to drag a menu item, but what if I need to add an application which is not on the menu? [08:52] renato: i think there is no other way. you want something like "create shortcut " in windows? [08:52] yes, somehing like that.... amazing and futuristic technology :) (shortcuts) [08:53] renato: you want it inside the desktop folder? [08:54] not necessarily, II'll have it there if there is no other way to put it anywhere else [08:54] renato: have you tried the plama-network interface? [08:54] renato: have you tried the plama-netbook interface? [08:55] no,, I do not know what that is [08:56] sorry, I read plasma-network interface :) [08:56] renato: the desktop will look different like this http://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmanetbook/screenshots/netbook.png [08:56] renato: have you tried it [08:57] no, I am not sure how good it would look on my 4 screen setup :) [08:57] renato: desktop or laptop? [08:58] I was after something basic : instead of launching pentaho kettle from the command line I wanted to have an icon on my desktop for doing it [08:58] I did not image I was trying to do anything this complicated [09:00] renato: why dont you create a menu entry and add the menu entry to the desktop [09:01] well, that could be a way indeed, it sounds like a workaround but I'll live with that if there is no other way [09:01] you can just right-click the app [09:01] and it should give you the choice to put it on the desktop [09:01] if not, put it in the taskbar, and drag it up to the desktop [09:02] valorie: do you mean app for the bin file? [09:02] what I would do is search in the kmenu, and find the app [09:02] right click on that entry [09:02] what happened to the good old right click the desktop-add launcher [09:03] you can have the old-fashioned launcher too, I think [09:03] if you want [09:04] actually, I've been reading the blog of someone who is making KDE4 just like his beloved 3 [09:04] for some crazy reason [09:04] lol [09:04] he's done it so far..... [09:05] valorie: some people still love kde 3 [09:08] I don't miss it [09:08] it was good in its time, though [09:08] :-) === Kolia_ is now known as Kolia [09:15] question: ow do I take advantage of strigi? I did not see anywhere a search field [09:30] hey === ucenik10 is now known as ucenik10__ [09:32] hey === jonathan is now known as Bouki === numan_ is now known as Guest1527 === db is now known as Guest11928 === Guest11928 is now known as dominikb [12:23] Hi, I just connected a new WD Passport usb drive to this maverick amd64 system, but nothing happens (it's not detected). How should I diagnose this? [12:25] check dmesg | tail in konsole [12:30] moetunes: I see a bunch of related messages, what am I looking for? [12:30] hi guys, anyone here to help a very young noob? [12:30] !ask | raynop [12:30] raynop: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [12:30] something about a new high speed usb device or similar [12:31] amichair: ^^ [12:31] sorry, trying to be polite :) [12:31] moetunes: yes, it looks ok, last message is "[sdc] Attached SCSI disk" [12:31] raynop: no problem :-) [12:32] how do I find a file I cannot recover after a vi edit went wrong, in windows you type "dir /s filename" [12:32] amichair: you can check the mount command to see if it is mounted already [12:32] if not make a dir in /mnt and mount it manually [12:32] I edited the sources.list file and now there are a sources.list.swp somewhere I need to delete [12:33] raynop: and you don't know where it is? [12:34] raynop: you can use "find -name "*.swp" from the console, replacing with the folder you think it might be under, or / for the whole system [12:34] if it's not in /etc/apt it is prob in /tmp [12:35] moetunes: "mount | grep sdc" shows nothing [12:35] hi, my problem with last nights 10.10 update still going on - I have reinstalled xorg and kdm, but nothing really solve the problem i do use proprietary driver [12:35] thank you veyr much :) [12:36] what is the file delelete command in linux :() [12:37] rm -v /path/to/file [12:37] thanx [12:37] i changed my grub settings and choose older kernel boot image and x is working again... probably the problem is some how related the kernel? anyone ideas how the fix things? [12:44] why can't I see files with a "." infront of the either with ls or dir and what is the difference over and above the text coulored? [12:44] a file with a dot in front is a "hidden" file - ls -a will show them [12:44] raynop: files beginning with a "." are hidden files and are not normally shown. you can use ls -a to see them (-a stands for all, I think) [12:45] ah, thanx [12:45] raynop: colors have to do with file permissions and/or directory (as opposed to file) [12:46] amichair: you mounted your disk ok? [12:46] ah [12:46] moetunes: nope. looking at it in partition editor - it shows up ok there [12:47] moetunes: still don't know why it wasn't mounted [12:48] amichair: does it have partitions on it? [12:48] moetunes: I see a single ntfs partition [12:49] with 3gb used (probably the WD software that comes on the disk) [12:49] amichair: I don't know why it wasn't mounted but we can mount it manually if you want [12:50] moetunes: will it then auto-(un)mount every time I plug it in or out? I'd rather not have to do it manually... that's what USB drives are for :-) [12:50] hmmm... maybe I'll try it on a windows system, see if there's anything fishy there [12:51] how do I install vmware tools? everytime I try to run the executable nothing happens [12:51] amichair: if there is some proprietry software on it that does backups or whatever checking in windows might be a good idea [12:52] moetunes: ok, I'll do that. though I'd expect it to mount, regardless of any WD utilities not being usable (I really do't need them) [12:53] amichair: I would think it should mount too [12:54] raynop: what sort of executable? a .exe ? [12:54] good thing I left a winxp partition on the netbook :-) [12:54] superville1: it was a nvidia card you had wasn't it? [12:55] raynop: I don't know if this is helpful to you, but I use virtualbox - very easy to use, works great. [12:55] +1 vbox :) [12:56] moetunes: this is ati radeon (gigabyte hd5770) worked perfectly so far :) [12:57] superville1: I've never bothered with the proprietry drivers but it sounds like the kernel didn't get the driver installed in it [12:59] moetunes: yes that's probably the cause why its doesnt woke up with new kernel.. do I miss something if I don't use proprietary - 3D or 2D accelaration [13:00] superville1: depends on what sort of apps you run - the opensource drivers are pretty good [13:00] !ati [13:00] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [13:06] ubottu: when installing this 10.10 I used additional divers utility to install driver easily [13:06] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:07] superville1: try that again then [13:07] !bot [13:07] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [13:07] !lag [13:07] You have lag, I don't have lag === name is now known as Guest95878 [13:08] moetunes: x is not running so this is gui utility - or should it work in shell... hmm... i will try it... [13:08] superville1: do you have a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 ? [13:10] moetunes: yes i have [13:11] superville1: it probably asks for the proprietry driver which isn't installed in the new kernel - you could move that file and boot into the new kernel [13:13] moetunes: ok. i try to rename and then there is no xorg.conf and it should boot with x... is this what should happen? [13:13] superville1: yes [13:14] superville1: to rename it in konsole do sudo mv -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak [13:15] moetunes: i just mv [13:15] k [13:16] now booting thumbs up... [13:16] luck [13:16] its there!!! [13:17] x up and running :) [13:17] woot! [13:18] thanks moetunes!!! i will now use the propriety driver utility to install driver to this new kernel ... so let see what happened but great! many thanks!!! [13:18] np :) [13:19] Hi where do I find the Autostart Directory, please? [13:20] in ~/.local/kde iirc or .kde [13:22] I have donwloaded wine and utorrent.exe for windows, what do I do know to make it work? [13:23] there is ktorrent or if you really need utorrent [13:23] !wine [13:23] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [13:23] moetunes: yes. all solved now... back in business... :) thnks x2 [13:23] superville1: happy for you :) [13:25] sorry if anyone answered I was logged out so I will repeat the question [13:25] I have donwloaded wine and utorrent.exe for windows, what do I do know to make it work? [13:25] there is ktorrent or if you really need utorrent [13:25] !wine [13:26] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [13:28] ok thanks, I don't need it I just want to see if I can get it to work [13:28] do all windows programs work with wine btw? [13:29] Thanks, I found the way round. [13:30] yoost: not all [13:30] !appdb [13:30] The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [13:30] ok, thanks [13:37] OK, I seem to have something wrong with the rate limit of my sound card/driver [13:37] I played several sounds with several programs and the audio is entirely too fast [13:38] I just listened to an almost 5 minute long song in about 1/2 second [13:38] Any ideas how I can put the brakes on this breakneck race to deliver sound? [13:47] another question then, if you use the apt-get command to install programs, how do you know what you can install? [13:47] what programs are available [13:48] !info kpackagekit [13:48] kpackagekit (source: kpackagekit): KDE package management tool using PackageKit. In component main, is extra. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 628 kB, installed size 1908 kB [13:49] yoost: you can also use "apt-cache search " from console [13:49] yoost: open kpackagekit from the k menu and browse/search [13:49] yoost: You can usually use apt-cache [13:49]