[00:00] <jmichaelx> yofel: that would lead me much more to believe that there is some sort of conflict in the most recent updates from the kubuntu ppa & opengl rendering (at least when using the proprietary nvidia drivers)
[00:02] <yofel> hm, I have maverick with kde 4.5.3 and nvidia 260.19.21 running on a geforce 250GTS - works fine
[00:07] <jmichaelx> yofel: interesting. and you have ALL the latest updates installed from the ppa, and have rebooted?
[00:11] <yofel> from the updates ppa yes
[00:22] <_Techie_> what file browser does kubuntu use?
[00:23] <KimLaRoux> Dolphin
[01:02] <ectoscape> Hello
[01:03] <ectoscape> I got a rather annoying issue with Kubuntu on my eee-PC 1005HA. Maybe there is some one out there who can help me fix it?
[01:03] <ectoscape> I seem unable to get my mobile data connection to work using the KDE network manager.
[01:06] <ectoscape> No matter what I try, it just tries to establish a mobile connection. Next, the mobile icon/tab completely disappears for a while and then just comes back and says "not connected".
[01:07] <ectoscape> I have tried entering different numbers in the "number" field. APN name is surfo2 and my provider is o2 Germany.
[01:07] <ectoscape> I have tried to manually change MRU and MTU values to 1440 as suggested somewhere but that did not make a difference either.
[01:09] <ectoscape> Stock ubuntu with gnome can connect over mobile data without a hassle so I figure it's the KDE network manager. :(
[01:14] <Roey> hey I'm stuck at KDE 4.5.1 here on Maverick... is that hte latest version?
[01:15] <Roey> hmmmm according to apt-cache policy, it is.
[01:15] <Roey> how do I up that?
[01:15] <Roey> I thought the PPA build is not 100% working (desk jmichaelx top effects)
[01:15] <Roey> ectoscape:  bwahaha I mid-read your nick as ectoscope initially ;)
[01:16] <ectoscape> nah, don't do that. :P
[01:16] <ectoscape> It's ectoscape; at your service. :)
[01:17] <Roey> =)
[01:17] <Roey> nice to meetcha
[01:18] <ectoscape> You would not happen to have an idea about my mobile data connection issues? Digging in google it seems that there is some sort of bug with KDE network manager on mobile data connections since Kubuntu 9.04
[01:18] <Roey> It's ok, I've used nicknames like JelliedMisery
[01:18] <Roey> and its converse, CongealedHappiness
[01:18] <Roey> ectoscape:  oh I do not know about that
[01:18] <Roey> thar be black magic and all
[01:18] <ectoscape> damned
[01:18] <ectoscape> :/
[01:19] <Roey> aye :(
[01:19] <freename> I cannot log into irc #kubuntu using quassel. It tells me: You have a host listed in the DroneBL.. What was that?
[01:23] <ectoscape> alriht then. I guess I am off to bed. gn8 y'all.
[01:27] <Roey> freename:  don't worry, you're not missing much, use xchat and be happy :)
[01:27] <Roey> re: <freename> I cannot log into irc #kubuntu using quassel.
[01:29] <freename> Roey: Do you know why is that? What's happening?
[01:30] <freename> it tells me: You are banned from this server- You have a host listed in the DroneBL. For more information, visit dronebl.org/lookup_branded.do?ip=222.124.3.11  Please contact proxyscan@freenode.net with questions. But my IP is 222.124.3.14...??
[01:32] <jmichaelx> freename: i highly recommend konversation, btw.... although that will not necessarily help you with the problem you were having
[01:33] <jmichaelx> Roey: i had been using kde4.5.3 very happily on my PC at work... it was only after today's updates that things went somewhat awry
[01:33] <djustice> konvi ftw
[01:33] <djustice> 4.5.3 ftw
[01:33] <djustice> dh_* for the fail..
[01:34] <jmichaelx> dh_?
[01:34] <djustice> debian's grand packaging system. helper utils.
[01:34] <jmichaelx> ahh
[01:34] <djustice> some 6000+ lines of perl that run every time you install/upgrade/remove a pkg
[01:34] <djustice> godawful imo..
[01:34] <djustice> chakra ftw ;)
[01:35] <jmichaelx> have never used chakra.... good kde distro?
[01:35] <djustice> not yet
[01:36] <jmichaelx> djustice: i have to say, though... i have not yet used a gnu/linux flavor which had a package management system i liked better than debian's
[01:37] <freename> i try to use aptoncd for offline installation, i burn it into cd-rw. but when i try to add cd-rom on software sources, it says: Error scanning the CD E:Failed to mount the cdrom.
[01:38] <jmichaelx> freename: that is strange
[01:40] <freename> a few hours ago, I cannot update software on kpackagekit from main server..
[01:41] <jmichaelx> woa... >> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/ubuntu-becoming-rolling-release-distro.html
[01:41] <jmichaelx> freename: does your machine have a network connection?
[01:42] <Pici> jmichaelx: http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/ubuntu-is-not-moving-to-rolling-release.html
[01:43] <freename> I have a super slow connection. but it still work annother day..
[01:43] <jmichaelx> silly webupd8
[01:43] <jmichaelx> ty Pici
[01:44] <Pici> jmichaelx: you're welcome.
[01:44] <jmichaelx> freename: you may just need to change which mirrors you are using
[01:48] <freename> does it have any relation to aptoncd i cannot mount?
[01:49] <jmichaelx> freename: it shouldn't
[01:49] <jmichaelx> freename: i have never used aptoncd, but that should definitely work
[01:51] <jmichaelx> freename: did you follow any tutorials, or other documentation, in trying to get started with aptoncd?
[01:54] <freename> no i dont. just go to work. based on offline help ubuntu. my predict on doing.
[01:54] <freename> offline installation help ubuntu
[01:58] <freename> things that make me confuse was, quassel tells me to go to dronebl.org. when i follow the link, it tells me: "infected with a spambot or other associated drone: run antivirus software on your machine." Is that true?
[02:20] <sea4ever> Anybody familiar with how grub-mkconfig works? It gives me the error of 'no such partition' No idea how it works though
[02:22] <sfears> i'm not familiar with grub-mkconfig sea4ever, but what are you trying to do?
[02:22] <sea4ever> Trying to figure out where it fails so that I can make it work again
[02:23] <sea4ever> Right now I'm reading through it, I think I can figure this out
[02:23] <sfears> have you tried the -o option?
[02:23] <sfears> sounds like it's trying to save to a partition that is non existent.. try specifying a save as location sea4ever
[02:24] <sea4ever> Changing the output file? Nah no difference. It doesn't fully work, it exits with status of..1
[02:24] <sea4ever> I tried the -o ./test.conf anyway, still exits with status of 1.
[02:28] <sea4ever> I think I found where it exits. This line here: "grub-probe --target=fs /" <- I tried it myself, and it says "no such partition"
[02:28] <sea4ever> Which is kinda odd, considering that 'grub-probe --target=device /' works just fine.
[02:29] <lindeval> where are you from?
[02:46] <freename> jmichaelx: seem i should reinstall my system again...
[03:07] <sea4ever> Does grub have problems with ext4 or something
[03:07] <sea4ever> ?
[03:08] <moetunes> nope
[03:23] <surunveri> HI
[03:23] <surunveri> could someone tell me if there's a graphical exif viewer for linux
[03:23] <surunveri> or name one such program? :D
[03:26] <claydoh> surunveri: just the exif data? gwenview, digikam, heck you can configure Dolphin  to do so as well
[03:26] <claydoh> surunveri: Kubuntu has gwenview already
[03:26] <surunveri> sorry i dont know much about anything complicated
[03:26] <surunveri> but gwenview can do that?
[03:26] <surunveri> that's cool :D
[03:27] <claydoh> all of them should, I would imagine
[03:27] <surunveri> hmm
[03:27] <surunveri> how can i view them with gwenview? :D
[03:29] <claydoh> surunveri: open a picture and see :) you may have  to click on the  "more" link in gwenview's Information tab to specify what info to view by default
[03:30]  * claydoh wanders off for food
[03:31] <surunveri> hm
[03:32] <surunveri> i cant find that information tab or themore option :D
[03:33] <surunveri> found it sorry.. thx :D
[03:38] <youlun> does anyone use rekonq as their default browser?
[03:59] <eigen> I have this really annoying phenomenon on ubuntu where the window animation slows down and speeds up when I click on the resize buttons. (It's running on virtual box). Any solutions?
[03:59] <eigen> I'm running 10.10
[03:59] <eigen> *kubuntu
[04:11] <MouselessRoey> hi
[04:12] <MouselessRoey> My mouse stopped moving.  The device appears on, but my mouse just stopped moving.  It is frozen in position with Fluxbox as well.  I moved it to different USB ports; same thing.  The light underneath the mouse is on when I move it, and the lens appears clear.  What is this about?
[04:12] <MouselessRoey> I mean it's not a Kubuntu thing
[04:12] <MouselessRoey> I just wonder if it can detect input from the mouse
[04:12] <MouselessRoey> I don't even know which device to cat
[04:12] <MouselessRoey> /dev/mouse?
[04:13] <maco> are you able to tab your way around the systemsettings and check out the mouse settings?
[04:13] <maco> maybe disable / reenable or something?
[04:13] <MouselessRoey> I have no mousing capability whatsoever
[04:13] <MouselessRoey> I could test with another mouse but I don't have a usable second one
[04:13] <maco> systemsettings can work by keyboard
[04:14] <MouselessRoey> I think it's the physical device
[04:14] <ner0x> Where can I find libdvdcss ?
[04:15] <maco> !dvd
[04:15] <MouselessRoey> maco: and I only have one usabletty
[04:15] <maco> er... what happened to the rest?
[04:15] <MouselessRoey> ?!?!
[04:15] <MouselessRoey> they appear blank
[04:16] <MouselessRoey> and in Windows the mouse is also frozen
[04:16] <MouselessRoey> seroiusly I suspect the device
[04:16] <MouselessRoey> I just don't have another mouse to test that theory out :(
[04:16] <maco> i think the "broken in windows too" test proves your theory
[04:16] <MouselessRoey> so we know it's not a linux problem
[04:17] <MouselessRoey> can it only be the mouse?
[04:17] <MouselessRoey> what if the hardware accepting the USB connection is ignoring it?
[04:17] <MouselessRoey> like, a logic problem not a port problem
[04:17] <maco> do usb flash drives work?
[04:17] <MouselessRoey> er dunno good idea.
[04:18] <MouselessRoey> I swear this just keeps getting worse and worse.
[04:18] <MouselessRoey> alright
[04:18] <MouselessRoey> see you in a bit
[04:18] <MouselessRoey> exit
[04:18] <MouselessRoey> er
[04:18] <FloodBotK1> MouselessRoey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <saprohyte> have the gnash shockwave plugin installed, but videos aren't loading playing, how can i get rid of this and install the adobe or gnome flash?
[05:21] <moetunes>  sudo apt-get --purge remove gnash    should get rid of it
[05:23] <wqapol> How can I change the grouping of windows in taskbar? Could find any options by right licking it or in system settings.
[05:23] <saprohyte> yup it's gone :) ty
[05:24] <wqapol> *Couldn't
[05:25] <wqapol> Got it, had to right click on empty space of taskbar.
[05:28] <saprohyte> where does kpackagekit install the installer for the adobe flash
[05:28] <moetunes> I don't know for sure - maybe in /opt
[05:30] <saprohyte> thanks moetunes got my flash problem solved.
[05:31] <moetunes> woot!
[05:32] <saprohyte> only other issue im having is when windows minimize and maximize it is really choppy.... anyway to turn off this feature or fix the chopyness?
[05:36] <moetunes> that would prob be 'cause alot of the cpu is being used - run   top   in a konsole to check it while minimizing and maximising
[05:42] <saprohyte> ah ok got ya.....
[06:37] <eroignreo0> im thinking about tryin about kubuntu
[06:37] <eroignreo0> out
[06:37] <eroignreo0> about - out
[06:38] <eroignreo0> if a bug is reported does it take long for the correction?
[06:39] <eroignreo0> i been using opensuse 11.3 ever since it came out
[06:39] <eroignreo0> the first week a flash bug was reported
[06:39] <eroignreo0> still itsnt fixxed
[06:40] <eroignreo0> i loved 11.2
[06:40] <eroignreo0> not 11.3
[06:41] <eroignreo0> i just had one too many probably with opensuse 11.3
[06:41] <eroignreo0> probablems
[06:41] <eroignreo0> problems*
[06:43] <eroignreo0> ive had many problems geting sofware to work on it
[06:43] <eroignreo0> its ridicules how man y times ive had problems
[06:44] <eroignreo0> im wondering if kbunta is anygood
[06:45] <valorie> eroignreo0: I find kubuntu excellent
[06:45] <valorie> running 10.10 -- best yet
[06:45] <valorie> so far, everything Just Works
[06:45] <eroignreo0> im not asking for the world
[06:45] <eroignreo0> not has many problems
[06:45] <eroignreo0> i doesnt what the hell they did with opensuse 11.3
[06:46] <valorie> why not download and write to a thumbdrive
[06:46] <eroignreo0> 11.2 was great
[06:46] <valorie> and check it out?
[06:46] <valorie> I understand that there is a packaging problem in 11.3
[06:46] <valorie> I'm sure they will have it fixed soon
[06:46] <eroignreo0> many odd problems
[06:46] <eroignreo0> val, uh im not for sure about that
[06:47] <valorie> yes, i was talking to someone in #amarok yesterday who did 3 installs
[06:47] <valorie> all flawed
[06:47] <valorie> not sure about what?
[06:47] <eroignreo0> holy crap
[06:47] <eroignreo0> them actually getting around to fixin something
[06:47] <valorie> he came back in today and reported the error
[06:47] <valorie> dunno if it's fixed yet, or not
[06:47] <eroignreo0> i know flash is crap
[06:48] <eroignreo0> but every time you full screen it freeze
[06:48] <eroignreo0> still hasnt been fix
[06:48] <valorie> flash works fine here in kub.
[06:48] <eroignreo0> i understand its a free operation system
[06:48] <eroignreo0> and they have lives
[06:48] <eroignreo0> but i wish 11.3 was better
[06:50] <eroignreo0> val, i know i can look it up but how does it do with intel chip sets?
[06:51] <eroignreo0> hear many probably?
[06:51] <valorie> I suppose you can search on ubuntuforums
[06:51] <eroignreo0> i know
[06:51] <eroignreo0> just wondering if people have any problems
[06:51] <valorie> see if there are recently reported problems
[06:51] <eroignreo0> like people coming in here asking
[06:52] <valorie> not that I've noticed
[06:52] <valorie> but I'm not here all the time
[06:52] <eroignreo0> val, ill try you someething odd
[06:52] <valorie> only when I have time to help out
[06:52] <eroignreo0> a asm program goes bu kasm
[06:52] <eroignreo0> has the same chipset every has me
[06:53] <eroignreo0> he can get a program working when i cant
[06:53] <eroignreo0> same os to
[06:53] <eroignreo0> he even compiled it for me
[06:54] <eroignreo0> just weird crap going on with 11.3
[06:54] <valorie> well, two systems which seem to be the same, are not necessarily identical
[06:55] <eroignreo0> well we have the same chipset processor only differce i got the 50 dollar rebate :)
[06:57] <eroignreo0> we both get a unknown classic on our 3d
[06:57] <eroignreo0> both use opengl
[06:58] <eroignreo0> val, thanks for your opinion
[07:00] <valorie> you are welcome
[07:03] <superville1> hi yesterday I upgraded my 10.10 kubuntu and now x doesn't start... can anyone help?
[07:04] <moetunes> you can check the X log to see what happened
[07:05] <superville1> do you mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:06] <moetunes> yep
[07:06] <moetunes> in a tty you do   les /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:06] <moetunes> in a tty you do   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:07] <superville1> moetunes: thanks i will do it just a momento
[07:07] <moetunes> no problemo :)
[07:09] <superville1> moetunes: caught signal 11 segmentation fault. server aborting
[07:09] <moetunes> superville1:  using a proprietry driver?
[07:10] <superville1> moetunes: yes
[07:10] <superville1> in last night yes :)
[07:10] <moetunes> is that when things went wrong?
[07:11] <moetunes> you might have got a new kernel and need to redo the driver install for that kernel
[07:13] <superville1> moetunes: i had used proprietary driver since 10.10 released and everything has gone great even with several upgrades - but last nights upgrade was first time when this machine does not start x. if I remember right kubuntu found the propriety driver without my help
[07:14] <superville1> i can try to do that kernel redo - can you give me hint how to do it? :)
[07:15] <moetunes> superville1:  ok you could try a reinstall of xorg-server
[07:15] <moetunes> it more then likely isn't the prop driver install
[07:17] <superville1> i try to find commands just a momento :)
[07:18] <moetunes> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-xserver iirc
[07:18] <superville1> moetunes: thanks a lot... just a momento I try that :)
[07:23] <superville1> moetunes: I try to find exact package name... xorg-xserver not in the list...
[07:26] <valorie> Xorg-server
[07:26] <valorie> not xorg-xserver
[07:26] <valorie> moetunes mistyped the command
[07:28] <superville1> valorie: thanks... i get still the message "unable to locate package Xorg-server
[07:28] <superville1> strange
[07:30] <superville1> valorie & moetunes - i will try to solve this problem later - now to have to leav
[07:31] <superville1> thanks for your help
[07:39] <valorie> heh, just checked kpackagekit
[07:40] <valorie> it's xserver-xorg!
[07:40] <valorie> !find xorg
[07:44] <moetunes> oops :)
[07:53] <valorie> now we know
[07:53] <valorie> :-)
[08:50] <renato> hi, how do I add an application to the desktop? so far the only way I found is to drag a menu item, but  what if I need to add an application which is not on the menu?
[08:52] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: i think there is no other way. you want something like "create shortcut " in windows?
[08:52] <renato> yes, somehing like that.... amazing and futuristic technology :)  (shortcuts)
[08:53] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: you want it inside the desktop folder?
[08:54] <renato> not necessarily, II'll have it there if there is no other way to put it anywhere else
[08:54] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: have you tried the plama-network interface?
[08:54] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: have you tried the plama-netbook interface?
[08:55] <renato> no,, I do not know what that is
[08:56] <renato> sorry, I read plasma-network interface :)
[08:56] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: the desktop will look different like this http://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmanetbook/screenshots/netbook.png
[08:56] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: have you tried it
[08:57] <renato> no, I am not sure how good it would look on my 4 screen setup :)
[08:57] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: desktop or laptop?
[08:58] <renato> I was after something basic : instead of launching pentaho kettle from the command line I wanted to have an icon on my desktop for doing it
[08:58] <renato> I did not image I was trying to do anything this complicated
[09:00] <phoenix_firebrd> renato: why dont you create a menu entry and add the menu entry to the desktop
[09:01] <renato> well, that could be a way indeed, it sounds like a workaround but I'll live with that if there is no other way
[09:01] <valorie> you can just right-click the app
[09:01] <valorie> and it should give you the choice to put it on the desktop
[09:01] <valorie> if not, put it in the taskbar, and drag it up to the desktop
[09:02] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: do you mean app for the bin file?
[09:02] <valorie> what I would do is search in the kmenu, and find the app
[09:02] <valorie> right click on that entry
[09:02] <moetunes> what happened to the good old right click the desktop-add launcher
[09:03] <valorie> you can have the old-fashioned launcher too, I think
[09:03] <valorie> if you want
[09:04] <valorie> actually, I've been reading the blog of someone who is making KDE4 just like his beloved 3
[09:04] <valorie> for some crazy reason
[09:04] <valorie> lol
[09:04] <valorie> he's done it so far.....
[09:05] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: some people still love kde 3
[09:08] <valorie> I don't miss it
[09:08] <valorie> it was good in its time, though
[09:08] <valorie> :-)
[09:15] <renato> question: ow do I take advantage of strigi?  I did not see anywhere a search field
[09:30] <ucenik10> hey
[09:32] <ucenik10__> hey
[12:23] <amichair> Hi, I just connected a new WD Passport usb drive to this maverick amd64 system, but nothing happens (it's not detected). How should I diagnose this?
[12:25] <moetunes> check   dmesg | tail   in konsole
[12:30] <amichair> moetunes: I see a bunch of related messages, what am I looking for?
[12:30] <raynop> hi guys, anyone here to help a very young noob?
[12:30] <amichair> !ask | raynop
[12:30] <moetunes> something about a new high speed usb device or similar
[12:31] <moetunes> amichair:  ^^
[12:31] <raynop> sorry, trying to be polite :)
[12:31] <amichair> moetunes: yes, it looks ok, last message is "[sdc] Attached SCSI disk"
[12:31] <amichair> raynop: no problem :-)
[12:32] <raynop> how do I find a file I cannot recover after a vi edit went wrong, in windows you type "dir /s filename"
[12:32] <moetunes> amichair:  you can check the mount command to see if it is mounted already
[12:32] <moetunes> if not make a dir in /mnt and mount it manually
[12:32] <raynop> I edited the sources.list file and now there are a sources.list.swp somewhere I need to delete
[12:33] <moetunes> raynop:  and you don't know where it is?
[12:34] <amichair> raynop: you can use "find <root_directory> -name "*.swp" from the console, replacing <root_directory> with the folder you think it might be under, or / for the whole system
[12:34] <moetunes> if it's not in /etc/apt it is prob in /tmp
[12:35] <amichair> moetunes: "mount | grep sdc" shows nothing
[12:35] <superville1> hi, my problem with last nights 10.10 update still going on - I have reinstalled xorg and kdm, but nothing really solve the problem i do use proprietary  driver
[12:35] <raynop> thank you veyr much :)
[12:36] <raynop> what is the file delelete command in linux :()
[12:37] <moetunes> rm -v /path/to/file
[12:37] <raynop> thanx
[12:37] <superville1> i changed my grub settings and choose older kernel boot image and x is working again... probably the problem is some how related the kernel? anyone ideas how the fix things?
[12:44] <raynop> why can't I see files with a "." infront of the either with ls or dir and what is the difference over and above the text coulored?
[12:44] <moetunes> a file with a dot in front is a "hidden" file - ls -a will show them
[12:44] <amichair> raynop: files beginning with a "." are hidden files and are not normally shown. you can use ls -a to see them (-a stands for all, I think)
[12:45] <raynop> ah, thanx
[12:45] <amichair> raynop: colors have to do with file permissions and/or directory (as opposed to file)
[12:46] <moetunes> amichair:  you mounted your disk ok?
[12:46] <raynop> ah
[12:46] <amichair> moetunes: nope. looking at it in partition editor - it shows up ok there
[12:47] <amichair> moetunes: still don't know why it wasn't mounted
[12:48] <moetunes> amichair:  does it have partitions on it?
[12:48] <amichair> moetunes: I see a single ntfs partition
[12:49] <amichair> with 3gb used (probably the WD software that comes on the disk)
[12:49] <moetunes> amichair:  I don't know why it wasn't mounted but we can mount it manually if you want
[12:50] <amichair> moetunes: will it then auto-(un)mount every time I plug it in or out? I'd rather not have to do it manually... that's what USB drives are for :-)
[12:50] <amichair> hmmm... maybe I'll try it on a windows system, see if there's anything fishy there
[12:51] <raynop> how do I install vmware tools? everytime I try to run the executable nothing happens
[12:51] <moetunes> amichair:  if there is some proprietry software on it that does backups or whatever checking in windows might be a good idea
[12:52] <amichair> moetunes: ok, I'll do that. though I'd expect it to mount, regardless of any WD utilities not being usable (I really do't need them)
[12:53] <moetunes> amichair:  I would think it should mount too
[12:54] <moetunes> raynop:  what sort of executable? a .exe ?
[12:54] <amichair> good thing I left a winxp partition on the netbook :-)
[12:54] <moetunes> superville1:  it was a nvidia card you had wasn't it?
[12:55] <amichair> raynop: I don't know if this is helpful to you, but I use virtualbox - very easy to use, works great.
[12:55] <moetunes> +1 vbox :)
[12:56] <superville1> moetunes: this is ati radeon (gigabyte hd5770) worked perfectly so far :)
[12:57] <moetunes> superville1:  I've never bothered with the proprietry drivers but it sounds like the kernel didn't get the driver installed in it
[12:59] <superville1> moetunes: yes that's probably the cause why its doesnt woke up with new kernel.. do I miss something if I don't use proprietary - 3D or 2D accelaration
[13:00] <moetunes> superville1:  depends on what sort of apps you run - the opensource drivers are pretty good
[13:00] <moetunes> !ati
[13:06] <superville1> ubottu: when installing this 10.10 I used additional divers utility to install driver easily
[13:07] <moetunes> superville1:  try that again then
[13:07] <moetunes> !bot
[13:07] <moetunes> !lag
[13:08] <superville1> moetunes: x is not running so this is gui utility - or should it work in shell... hmm... i will try it...
[13:08] <moetunes> superville1:  do you have a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 ?
[13:10] <superville1> moetunes: yes i have
[13:11] <moetunes> superville1:  it probably asks for the proprietry driver which isn't installed in the new kernel - you could move that file and boot into the new kernel
[13:13] <superville1> moetunes: ok. i try to rename and then there is no xorg.conf and it should boot with x... is this what should happen?
[13:13] <moetunes> superville1:  yes
[13:14] <moetunes> superville1:  to rename it in konsole do   sudo mv -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[13:15] <superville1> moetunes: i just mv
[13:15] <moetunes> k
[13:16] <superville1> now booting thumbs up...
[13:16] <moetunes> luck
[13:16] <superville1> its there!!!
[13:17] <superville1> x up and running :)
[13:17] <moetunes> woot!
[13:18] <superville1> thanks moetunes!!! i will now use the propriety driver utility to install driver to this new kernel ... so let see what happened but great! many thanks!!!
[13:18] <moetunes> np :)
[13:19] <Arran> Hi where do I find the Autostart Directory, please?
[13:20] <moetunes> in ~/.local/kde    iirc  or .kde
[13:22] <yoost> I have donwloaded wine and utorrent.exe for windows, what do I do know to make it work?
[13:23] <moetunes> there is ktorrent or if you really need utorrent
[13:23] <moetunes> !wine
[13:23] <superville1> moetunes: yes. all solved now... back in business... :) thnks x2
[13:23] <moetunes> superville1:  happy for you :)
[13:25] <yoost> sorry if anyone answered  I was logged out so I will repeat the question
[13:25] <yoost> I have donwloaded wine and utorrent.exe for windows, what do I do know to make it work?
[13:25] <moetunes> there is ktorrent or if you really need utorrent
[13:25] <moetunes> !wine
[13:26] <moetunes> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[13:28] <yoost> ok thanks, I don't need it I just want to see if I can get it to work
[13:28] <yoost> do all windows programs work with wine btw?
[13:29] <Arran> Thanks, I found the way round.
[13:30] <moetunes> yoost:  not all
[13:30] <moetunes> !appdb
[13:30] <yoost> ok, thanks
[13:37] <sean___> OK, I seem to have something wrong with the rate limit of my sound card/driver
[13:37] <sean___> I played several sounds with several programs and the audio is entirely too fast
[13:38] <sean___> I just listened to an almost 5 minute long song in about 1/2 second
[13:38] <sean___> Any ideas how I can put the brakes on this breakneck race to deliver sound?
[13:47] <yoost> another question then, if you use the apt-get command to install programs, how do you know what you can install?
[13:47] <yoost> what programs are available
[13:48] <moetunes> !info kpackagekit
[13:49] <amichair> yoost: you can also use "apt-cache search <partial_text>" from console
[13:49] <moetunes> yoost:  open kpackagekit from the k menu and browse/search
[13:49] <sean___> yoost: You can usually use apt-cache
[13:49] <sean___> yoost: If you use the CLI a lot then I recommend wajig - "wajig search" works for me
[13:50] <yoost> moetunes: ok so it is the same programs in the kpackagekit and in the apt-get thing?
[13:50] <moetunes> yoost:  yep
[13:50] <yoost> ok
[14:12] <amichair> moetunes: the usb disk works ok when mounted manually. Any idea how to check why it doesn't auto-mount?
[14:13] <moetunes> amichair:  is hal running?
[14:14] <amichair> moetunes: if I plug in my disk-on-key, it shows up fine
[14:15] <moetunes> amichair:  what is the name of it - western digital what?
[14:15] <TheKro> what's the app called that pops up when you plug in a usb key/external HDD?
[14:16] <amichair> WD My Passport Essential SE, WDBABM0010BBK
[14:16] <Guest42344> hi
[14:16] <amichair> TheKro: Device Notifier
[14:16] <TheKro> amichair: thanks
[14:16] <moetunes> amichair:  I'll have a google about it
[14:16] <amichair> moetunes: that's what I've been doing for hours :-/
[14:17] <TheKro> my device notifier is behaving strangely: it's not picking up one of the linux partitions on my external HDD.  However, I can manually mount the partition
[14:17] <TheKro> any suggestions on how to debug it?
[14:19] <amichair> moetunes: I have no idea what I did, but it started working!! :-)
[14:20] <amichair> maybe the manual mount/unmount before, or re-adding device notifier to the tray icon, or messing with these for a while...
[14:20] <moetunes> amichair:  it might be the size of the partition - 2TB would take some time to register
[14:20] <amichair> it's 1TB
[14:20] <moetunes> still large
[14:20] <amichair> is the detection time proportional to capacity?
[14:21] <amichair> hmm.... unplug and replug a couple times, now it's not showing it again :-(
[14:22] <TheKro> amichair: remove and re-add seems to have worked - thanks
[14:26] <amichair> moetunes: anyway, I'll keep playing with it, hope it stabilizes... thanks for your help!
[14:26] <moetunes> np :)
[14:29] <amichair> btw when it does work, it indeed takes 8-10 seconds until it's shown in device notifier
[14:29] <amichair> but as long as it works... :-)
[14:29] <moetunes> it could even be the usb port acting up
[14:37] <bernardo> hi
[14:37] <bernardo> how to setup the touch screen of ThinkPad w510 ?
[14:37] <bernardo> i can't get it to work here....
[14:39] <moetunes> you'll have to look at the X log to see what happened
[14:45] <bernardo> hum...
[14:45] <bernardo> nothing
[14:45] <bernardo> what driver shoukd I install?
[14:46] <tomas___> Driver?
[14:47] <bernardo> yep
[14:47] <bernardo> touchscreen, i need it, right?
[14:47] <bernardo> the thinkpad w510
[14:48] <jussi> DarkwingDuck: you have something simialr to that, right?
[15:19] <ilika> whats the easiest way updating grub to have windows as default boot
[15:34] <Sentynel> Hi guys. I've got some really odd behaviour with memory usage on downloads. I download files of ~1GB fairly regularly, and they seem to trigger ridiculous RAM usage (in the order of 2GB or more). The odd thing is this appears to be independent of the download client.
[15:34] <Sentynel> I assumed when it happened the first couple of times it was Firefox being Firefox, but I've got a large download running in KGet at the moment and lo and behold, it's showing the same behaviour.
[15:35] <Sentynel> It doesn't appear to be consistent, though; I've performed downloads in both Firefox and KGet of similar sizes without the memory bloat.
[15:35] <Sentynel> This is 64-bit Kubuntu 10.10.
[15:38] <Sentynel> I could be wrong, but I'm not sure I can account for all the memory usage across the system, either. Currently I have 3.5/3.9GiB memory used and 1.3/2.0GiB swap, but the top few programs by memory usage are kget 2150MB firefox 250MB amarok 75MB thunderbird 75MB java 42MB. Everything else is 30MB or below.
[16:03] <graphlite> hi
[16:03] <graphlite> how can i add ssh to the startup services ?
[16:03] <graphlite> i go to the system settings in kde but i cant see it there at the services
[16:03] <graphlite> if i start it manually it works well
[17:03] <Roey> hey all, are the PPA packages safe for general consumption?  I heard Desktop Effects don't work...
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Roey, depends on the graphics cards affected , some drivers are buggy
[17:07] <surunveri> hi
[17:07] <surunveri> open office installation on my kubuntu seems damaged
[17:07] <surunveri> how can i reinstall it? :D
[17:08] <Roey> BluesKaj:  nviida here
[17:08] <Roey> NVidia
[17:08] <BluesKaj> Roey, my 2 nvidia cards on differnt machines used to use the same nvidia-current driver , now after some updates , the older card uses anewer driver ...go figure
[17:09] <Roey> aye
[17:13] <surunveri> anyone? :D
[17:14] <surunveri> i think it's because i didnt format the HD when reinstallnig kubuntu
[17:14] <surunveri> so it's not properly installed
[17:14] <surunveri> the openoffice that is
[17:14] <surunveri> or something.. but i'd just want to remvoe it and install it again so that it works..? :D
[17:19] <Walzmyn> surunveri: sudo apt-get purge openoffice.org*
[17:19] <Walzmyn> surunveri: that will get all of your personal configurations as well
[17:20] <BluesKaj> surunveri, formatting has nothing to do with an app not installling or running properlyh
[17:23] <surunveri> :D
[17:23] <surunveri> kk thx
[17:23] <surunveri> BluesKaj:  maybe so but the only thing *ican think of* that has happened in between openoffice working and not working was reinstalling kubuntu
[17:23] <surunveri> :D
[17:24] <surunveri> i'll try the purge =)
[17:25] <BluesKaj> surunveri,  which method or type of install did you use ?
[17:25] <surunveri> I dont remember. I wanted to preserve the files i had though so I didnt format the drive
[17:25] <surunveri> :D
[17:25] <Walzmyn> surunveri: do you have your /home on a seperate partition?
[17:25] <surunveri> nope
[17:26] <surunveri> and openoffice 'does work' but
[17:26] <surunveri> all the menus are blank
[17:26] <surunveri> or the text is written in [][][]
[17:26] <surunveri> or i dont know if it works coz i couldnt use it with the menus liek that :D but it seemed to work
[17:27] <Walzmyn> I bet that's a missing font/ translation package or something like that
[17:27] <surunveri> i dont know.. i think it has something to do with reinstalling, and i think it also works if i reinstall office now
[17:27] <surunveri> could be :D
[17:27] <surunveri> but i dont know anything about that
[17:27] <surunveri> can i reinstall openoffice with sudo apt-get install openoffice.org* ?
[17:27] <Walzmyn> surunveri: I recomend getting ahold of an external drive, backing up your /home and formatting the HDD putting /home on a seperate partition
[17:28] <surunveri> yeah..... :_D I dont have the luxury for that which is also why I ended up with kubuntu in the first place :_D
[17:28] <Walzmyn> surunveri: do sudo apt-get install
[17:28] <surunveri> the older HD died and i had to buy a cheap one
[17:28] <Walzmyn> surunveri: see if it gives any errors
[17:28] <surunveri> just plain witohut openoffice?
[17:28] <Walzmyn> surunveri: yes
[17:29] <surunveri> no errors
[17:29] <Walzmyn> surunveri: hmm
[17:29] <surunveri> and i think kubuntu works fine otherwise it's just the openoffice this time
[17:29] <surunveri> :D
[17:29] <surunveri> well there's audio problems at times but they're manageable
[17:30] <Walzmyn> surunveri: you can do apt-get remove openoffice.org* && sudo apt-get install openoffice
[17:30] <surunveri> kk
[17:30] <Walzmyn> but I don't know if it's going to fix your problems
[17:30] <surunveri> didnt work :D
[17:32] <Walzmyn> surunveri: the command dind't work or it did not solve your problems?
[17:33] <surunveri> with both it says package not found
[17:33] <surunveri> but there's also a long list of notes
[17:33] <Walzmyn> emm
[17:35] <Walzmyn> surunveri: i'm not sure and I need to go get some lunch
[17:35] <Walzmyn> sorry, bud
[17:41] <surunveri> np
[17:44] <BajK_> any ideas why kubuntu prints out a test page after EACH printer job?
[17:44] <BajK_> it's only my printer, not my mum's and it doesn't matter whether it is configured using the cups web frontend or kde systemsetings module
[17:46] <greenmang0_> BajK_: try checking with http://localhost:631
[17:46] <Snowhog> BajK_: Is it really a 'Test Print' page and not a banner page?
[17:46] <BajK_> banner page?
[17:46] <BajK_> well i can test now
[17:46] <BajK_> just finished a job
[17:46] <BajK_> stay tuned
[17:46] <FloodBotK1> BajK_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <algirduxx> hello
[19:02] <biberao> hi
[19:02] <biberao> how to use kiosk features on kubuntu?
[19:03] <biberao> please
[19:04] <biberao> since kiosktool was removed
[19:04] <biberao> what now?
[19:14] <TheLolrus> how do you reduce the dreaded window blur on kwin?
[19:19] <strongcyde> how long will 10.10 be fully supported
[19:21] <Snowhog> strongcyde: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[19:22] <geekosopher> strongcyde: until 12.04 is released (for desktop) or somewhere around that time
[19:27] <enderw99> is beta1 4.6 kde released?
[19:30] <Snowhog> enderw99: See http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Release_Schedule
[19:39] <wilhart> http://pastebin.ca/2002245
[19:39] <wilhart> what's this?
[19:40] <zegenie> Snowhog: so, since you're being picky
[19:40] <skafti_> update problem... my computer wont update no more.  Someone knows }
[19:40] <zegenie> has 4.6 beta been *for kubuntu* yet?
[19:46] <Snowhog> zegenie: Do you have Kubuntu Backports in your repositories?
[19:47] <zegenie> Snowhog: always
[19:52] <LetoThe2nd> hello! when i install and run arista on a fresh kubuntu 10.10/amd64, it breaks with "glib.GError: Icon 'gtk-cdrom' not present in theme". i guess it's because of the kde DE - but how to solve it?
[19:54] <ct529> hi guys, installed 453 on 1004 lts, but I have serious problems with semantic desktop, where are the tags????
[19:54] <zegenie> LetoThe2nd: try "sudo apt-get install gnome-human-icon-theme" ?
[19:54] <zegenie> ct529: have checked that it is enabled in systemsettings?
[19:55] <ct529> zegenie: where?
[19:55] <zegenie> in system settings
[19:55] <zegenie> click the K menu button, then "system settings"
[19:55] <ct529> zegenie: I looked in system settings > desktop searh, and it is enabled
[19:55] <zegenie> good
[19:55] <zegenie> then open up the file manager (dolphin)
[19:55] <LetoThe2nd> zegenie: will try, moment please.
[19:55] <ct529> zegenie: but I do not see the applet running
[19:56] <zegenie> there is no applet
[19:56] <zegenie> not for the tagging
[19:56] <zegenie> I think the one you're thinking of is the indexer
[19:56] <zegenie> that doesn't show up unless it's enabled and has something unindexed to index
[19:56] <zegenie> which is only when you add new files or change existing ones, after the inital indexing is complete
[19:56] <zegenie> ct529: try opening up the file manager, dolphin
[19:57] <zegenie> in the "View" menu, select "Panels" and then "Information"
[19:57] <zegenie> or just press "F11" on the keyboard
[19:57] <ct529> zegenie: and there are no tags in dolphin
[19:57] <ct529> zegenie: no, there should be tagging facilities in the information window in dolphin, they are not there
[19:57] <ct529> zegenie: yes, I meant the indexer for the applet
[19:57] <ct529> zegenie: but the real worry is about the tags, that I use for browsing files!!!!
[19:58] <ct529> zegenie: of course I have the dolphin open and I have pressed F11
[19:58] <zegenie> so, under the folder name and modification date in the information panel, what do you have
[19:58] <zegenie> I have "Comment", "Rating" and "Tags"
[19:59] <ct529> zegenie: no, I do not have that at all, I used to have it in 445
[19:59] <ct529> zegenie: do I need to install soprano?
[20:00] <zegenie> if you have the kubuntu-desktop package installed, you shouldn't have to install anything manually
[20:00] <zegenie> it should already be installed, so then akonadi is probably not running
[20:01] <ct529> zegenie: akonadi? how is akonadi connected to nepomuk?
[20:01] <zegenie> sorry, I meant nepomuk
[20:01] <zegenie> open up system settings again
[20:02] <ct529> zegenie: if I do ps -ef it seems liek nepomuk is runninh
[20:02] <ct529> zegenie: done
[20:02] <zegenie> go to "startup and shutdown"
[20:02] <zegenie> then "service manager"
[20:02] <zegenie> see if the "Nepomuk search module" is running
[20:02] <zegenie> maybe try and stop it and start it again
[20:04] <ct529> zegenie: it says it is running
[20:04] <zegenie> have you tried stopping and starting it?
[20:05] <ct529> how?
[20:05] <zegenie> in that window, there are start and stop buttons
[20:05] <zegenie> select the nepomuk service and click stop
[20:05] <zegenie> then click start
[20:06] <zegenie> btw, could it be that you're experiencing this bug? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/617014
[20:06] <ct529> zegenie: ok, done, no changes to dolphin (opened and closed)
[20:07] <zegenie> have you checked that the upgrade to 4.5.3 was completed successfully?
[20:08] <zegenie> try running this command from a konsole window (press the k-menu, type "konsole" and select the konsole application)
[20:08] <zegenie> "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[20:08] <zegenie> and possibly also "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:09] <zegenie> if anything went wrong during the upgrade that can fix missing configuration changes and updates
[20:09] <zegenie> I assume you've restarted the computer after upgrading?
[20:10] <LetoThe2nd> zegenie: installing gnome-human-icon-theme did not help.
[20:13] <zegenie> LetoThe2nd: sorry
[20:13] <zegenie> seems I gave you the wrong package
[20:13] <LetoThe2nd> zegenie: no worries. do you have a better suggestion?
[20:13] <zegenie> according to the ubuntu package search, the file you're looking for is in the "matchbox-themes-extra" package
[20:13] <zegenie> "sudo apt-get install matchbox-themes-extra"
[20:14] <zegenie> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/all/matchbox-themes-extra/filelist
[20:15] <zegenie> ct529: any luck rebooting?
[20:15] <ct529> zegenie: I do not know, but it does not work
[20:15] <LetoThe2nd> zegenie: sorry, didn'T work either.
[20:15] <zegenie> still not showing up in the information panel?
[20:15] <ct529> zegenie: no luck
[20:16] <zegenie> LetoThe2nd: what icon theme are you using? oxygen?
[20:16] <LetoThe2nd> zegenie: all is default. the kubuntu install is absolutely fresh, just made for debugging this.
[20:16] <zegenie> strange
[20:20] <zegenie> seems that the file is also in the ubuntustudio-theme package
[20:20] <zegenie> but I'm really just guessing here
[20:20] <LetoThe2nd> zegenie: manually switching from oxygen to gnome-default made things work.
[20:23] <zegenie> LetoThe2nd: awesome :)
[20:24] <LetoThe2nd> zegenie: but kind of ugle. filed a bugreport :P
[20:24] <zegenie> I guess the application hasn't been developed with alternate configurations in mind
[20:29] <LetoThe2nd> yeah. thanks for the hints, gonna run again.
[20:29] <zegenie> np
[20:34] <nergal> holaa
[20:36] <nergal> hola
[20:36] <nergal> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:36] <nergal> xd
[20:37] <nergal> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:37] <nergal> alguien????
[20:38] <maco> !es
[20:38] <nergal> ok
[20:38] <nergal> bye
[20:40] <nergal> hola
[20:40] <maco> ingles, por favor
[20:42] <nergal> holaaa
[20:42] <nergal> xD
[20:43] <maco> nergal: solo habla ingles, por favor
[20:43] <nergal> sorry
[21:10] <BajK_> hm okay, THAT was a huge lag. In two years KDE never disabled my desktop compositing because of "performance issues"
[21:12] <BajK_> w0t?! "File indexing has been stopped due to performance issues"
[21:12] <BajK_> wtf
[21:12] <BajK_> why do I have six cores?! Why do I have 12 gig of ram?!
[21:13] <BajK_> man.. kde sucks -.-
[21:18] <moetunes> have a look at what's using things in konsole with   top
[21:42] <bobby_> whats up
[21:51] <compilerwriter> Happy thanksgiving to those in the USA.
[21:51] <micha_> Hi, does someone know a java related channel?
[21:53] <bobby_> anybody know where i can get help with ubuntu 10.10 i lost the panel when you minizie stuff.
[21:53] <Snowhog> bobby_: Just add the Task Manager widget back.
[21:55] <bobby_> where do you go for that?
[21:56] <Snowhog> bobby_: Right-click on an empty area of the Panel, Panel Options > Add Widgets and then type Task Manager and then double click on the displayed widget.
[21:58] <bobby_> sorry Snowhog but I don't see it
[22:00] <Snowhog> bobby_: Did you get the widgets selection panel to appear?
[22:00] <michal__> best GUI ftp client?
[22:01] <bobby_> when i right click i get new panel add to panel still don;t see widgets
[22:03] <Snowhog> bobby_: Okay, do this instead. Click on the 'cashew' icon at the end of the Panel and click on Add Widgets.
[22:04] <Snowhog> micha_: Look at filezilla. It's in the repositories, so can be installed directly.
[22:05] <micha_> Snowhog, I am looking for some java programming help and #java is invitation only
[22:10] <bobby_> still not work i must not have the version your running.....
[22:11] <Snowhog> micha_: Try /knock #java and see if you get a reply to join.
[22:11] <Snowhog> bobby_: What version of Kubuntu and KDE are you running?
[22:12] <micha_> thnx
[22:14] <bobby_> im running ubuntu 10.10
[22:14] <Snowhog> bobby_: That means KDE 4.5.x, so you should see what I'm describing.
[22:14] <bobby_> is kubunut better than ubuntu
[22:15] <bobby_> i know,
[22:15] <Snowhog> bobby_: Better? That's a matter of pure personal opinion. I like Kubuntu over Ubuntu because I like the KDE/Plasma Desktop Environment.
[22:17] <bobby_> i think i'll just format and start all over again i'll try kubuntu
[22:18] <Snowhog> bobby_: I'm sorry. I didn't catch that you were not running Kubuntu. To clarify, you are running Ubuntu (Gnome) 10.10?
[22:21] <bobby_> yep thats sounds right.. i was trying to update my video card and installed an older one now my screen is 600x800 its not being user friendly
[22:22] <Snowhog> bobby_: Well, you should still be able to get back the 'task manager' or what ever it's called in Ubuntu, by right-clicking on the Panel. Is there a Panel Options or similar?
[22:23] <Kevin147> I am having a problem with Kubuntu. I just switched over from Ubuntu, but like, now my sound is all messed up, and its like fast forward on youtube videos. How do I fix this?
[22:24] <Snowhog> Kevin147: Is sound otherwise okay - works correctly within the system?
[22:25] <Kevin147> Snowhog: Not exactly. When I start up, the little sound it plays when you logon, its all messed up. I can hear like bits of it, other parts I don't hear. And I can't get Facebook chat to work with Konqueror.
[22:25] <Snowhog> What version of Kubuntu, and version of KDE?
[22:26] <Kevin147> 10.10
[22:26] <gher1941> how do i change my icons in kubuntu?  any help is appreciated - ty in advance
[22:27] <Kevin147> Snowhog: 10.10
[22:44] <gher1941> how do i change my icons in kubuntu?  any help is appreciated - ty in advance
[23:44] <youlun> does anyone use BURG?