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LimsGood evening all. Does anyone have any resources they could point me to. I would like to customize an install of ubuntu (mythbuntu to be exact) and then move that install to a LiveCD.00:28
yofelLims: this is about creating customized lived disks if that's what you're looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization00:39
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brennydooglesHey all02:35
brennydooglesAnyone in here using a laptop?02:36
* Cheri703 has a laptop, what do you need?03:01
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DrewQso i'm running this 10.10 netbook version, and i want to know how to edit the icons that appear on the left-hand "launcher" thing. anyone?04:16
aveilleuxDrewQ: I'm not sure you can. I've never been able to figure it out, anyway.04:18
DrewQaw, lame. there's a "remove" option, but i'm afraid to remove anything if i cant put stuff back on, ya know? i dont want an empty launcher.04:19
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EleanorCan anyone please tell me how to stop an endless loop during an installation? I don´t want to start again from scratch as I already did that.06:33
EleanorSorry - closed the wrong window. Can anyone please tell me how to stop an endless loop during an installation? I don´t want to start again from scratch as I already did that.06:38
UndiFineDwhat is looping Eleanor ?06:42
UndiFineDyou did the install and then it starts over again ? is the system booting without the installation medium06:43
EleanorInstalling ubuntu-desktop has entered what I think is aloop,during installation,before it has completed.06:47
geekosopherEleanor: what exactly happens during the 'loop', the installation does not complete? Do you get any errors?06:49
EleanorInstall of base system went fine, only a few error messages. But I don´t know enough to run in cli so did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop - 15hours ago ... it keeps saying [some.number] sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error,command: Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 0006:51
EleanorApparently, this means I must remove the sr module with modprobe, but I´m not sure of the best way to exit the loop and what is left hanging, incomplete, if I do.06:53
geekosopherEleanor: which version of Ubuntu? and how are you trying to install, CD?06:53
EleanorHardy Heron server installed from CD06:54
EleanorI expect ^Z would exit the loop, but what happens to the rest of the desktop install?06:55
geekosopherEleanor: sorry, but server is what I have never installed...06:55
EleanorThe version is probably unimportant, just wonder if there is a way to exit the loop without the abandoning the whole process.06:57
Cheri703Eleanor: are you trying to get the FULL ubuntu desktop, or just the graphical interface?06:59
Eleanorcommand I used was apt-get install ubuntu-desktop - is that just the GUI or the whole package? I am not sure.07:00
EleanorBtw,this is a continuation of my hdd and dvd issues - trying a reinstall, but this time it´s being different.07:02
Cheri703it is the WHOLE package07:05
Cheri703I have a link somewhere for installing JUST the graphical stuff, not all the extras, do you want the extras? or be able to pick and choose?07:05
Cheri703sudo aptitude  install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop07:06
Cheri703that's what you want to use if you want the barebones version07:06
* Cheri703 has done it, it works07:06
EleanorChanged from gNewSense deltah to Ubuntu Server 8.04, but the same kernel module issues plague me in my new incarnation. Maybe by opening another tty, if that is possible? I wish I knew enough about cli to work this out.07:07
Cheri703ok, so server 8.04 is installed, you're just trying to add ubuntu-desktop, yes?07:07
geekosopherEleanor: from what google shows, it looks like that error has got something to do with bad cd/dvd drive07:08
EleanorYes. All I want right now is to exit this loop without trashing my system.07:09
EleanorMy dvd drive is fine,it is the modules or their options that are problematic - the drive works fine in windoze, not GNU/Linux!07:10
Cheri703ok, you should be able to exit without issue as long as the basic OS is already installed (as in, you installed, and were able to boot into it afterwards, then did the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)07:10
EleanorSigh of relief. Thank you.07:11
Cheri703pressing ctrl c *should* cancel the install07:11
geekosophermay be, just may be if this is of help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48559707:11
EleanorWasn´t game to - I am a total coward.07:11
Cheri703after that, run " sudo aptitude  install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop "07:11
Cheri703(without quotes obviously)07:12
Cheri703that will give you the basic desktop, hopefully. unless that other thing is causing other problems07:12
Cheri703honestly, I'd just disconnect the drive until I had everything else set and working, and THEN tackle that...but that's me07:12
EleanorThanks - not game to open the box - it hates that.07:13
Cheri703understandable07:13
Eleanorgeeksopher: That´s the link I thought I´d follow - very encouraging that you also suggested it may help, it was the only google result that looked hopeful.07:14
EleanorEverybody kept telling me my dvd drive was broken, but when I installed, Win98 Nero could use it the way brasero cannot -  I am now sure it is a driver issue and so I can solve it when I know more.07:17
Cheri703do you know the model?07:17
EleanorIt is a MATASHITA DVD-RAM (can´t access model no. atm) and apparently they are awkward.07:20
EleanorOh no! ^C exited something, I assume, but the loop is still going - maybe modprobe just  keeps asking the same stupid question every ten seconds. I think that is a bug that needs fixing.07:25
Cheri703:(07:25
EleanorWhat a silly programme.07:25
EleanorNow,which process do I have to kill to stop this daft error message interrupting anything I type?07:28
UndiFineDmight be a good idea to replace the dvd-ram someday, if you have more than one machine, an external one perhaps07:28
EleanorThanks for the suggestion, but I don´t replace components that are not broken.07:30
Cheri703Eleanor: I think a good step would be finding out the exact model number07:30
Cheri703that way you can search and see if there is a specific issue with that model07:30
EleanorTried an external USB cdrom- it couldn´t burn an iso to save it´s life.07:31
Cheri703I have an adapter that turns ide or sata drives into usb, I discovered a while ago that I can use it with internal cd drives, so my "external" drive is just really big :)07:32
EleanorYes, apparently everyone is advised to replace this model drive - not much help. I´ll talk to Panasonic when my more pressing issues are over.07:33
EleanorI suspect that much of my trouble is my OS pretending that all my drives are SCSI and mangling the inodes as a result.07:34
Cheri703well, good luck with it! I'm off to bed, it's almost 3am here!07:37
EleanorThanks. Sweet dreams ,07:38
EleanorNext question: what do the ever-increasing numbers in square brackets at the start of every log entry signify, please, O Clever Ones?07:42
UndiFineDtime since bootup07:45
EleanorThanks07:46
UndiFineD:)07:46
EleanorThe left number is the number of minutes and the right one is the number of seconds, or some other code? Does this mean that the same timestamp will occur in different logs so I can get a picture of a single event?07:48
UndiFineDtsarting my log file viewer07:50
EleanorSorry for having to ask such basic questions, but none of fthe tutorialsI have done have covered these areas.07:51
UndiFineDtrue, it is always considered out of scope07:51
UndiFineDunless you are doing debug / security07:51
EleanorEither they are too light and general or too deep and meaningful.07:52
EleanorI would debug if I could - bugs I have in abundance!07:52
UndiFineDwhy does the log file viewer app, by default go to /var/log/messages, that file is huge07:53
EleanorIt´ssilly. I want to write a programme called bugspray - the programme that helps you find and fix the bugs.07:53
EleanorEveryone has bugs,no-one has solutions ...07:54
EleanorAt least yourlog viewer doesSOMETHING07:54
Eleanormine just says it´s starting, but never does07:55
UndiFineDNov 21 07:45:02 head kernel: [169195.245245] php[24659]: segfault at 13d4270 ip 013d4270 sp bfeeb20c error 7 in pgsql.so[13cf000+17000]07:57
UndiFineD[169195.245245] is seconds, behind the dot are the smaller portions of it07:59
EleanorVery pretty - now what does itmean?07:59
EleanorRight08:00
UndiFineDsome systems can work realtime with superfast clocks08:00
EleanorWassa segfault?08:00
UndiFineDso they might need this detail08:00
UndiFineDthat is a broken app due to a bug08:00
UndiFineDit was killed08:01
EleanorThanks again. My system has 2x550MHz CPUs but Ubuntu thinks I only have one, so I already operate at halfspeed. Maybe I should just run MS on this box, but I hate togivein.08:02
UndiFineDor upgrade the kernel08:03
EleanorAaaaagggh! Error bloody 15: File not found - what the bleep is that about? So much for a reboot. I hope to compile a suitable kernel when I know how. It was an upgrade that started me on this merry-go-round!08:05
UndiFineDLinux head 2.6.35-23-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 17 22:15:35 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux08:06
EleanorTa - noted for future reference.08:07
UndiFineDthat i386 ubuntu maverick with 2 cpus working08:08
EleanorSoundslike the very thing.08:10
EleanorBloody bloody - why does Ubuntu default to a stupid splash screen like expletive windoze? Now I can´t see any error messages. I hate GUIs.08:13
UndiFineDoh i removed about all components of plymouth and removed the executable bit in /etc/init.d08:18
EleanorI want to learn about init.d and its friends (initramfs, etc) but can´t find where tolearn.08:21
EleanorLike,why does menu.1st insist my GNU/Linux system  hdd is number 4, not 0, as it really is?08:22
UndiFineDi want to learn my daughter to be on time in school, she is 17, but today i let her sleep until it was 15 mins past her time to be there ... she has to learn these things become her own responsibility08:28
EleanorI agree - once they are at high school, they need to want to go get an education and be self-motivated. Mine skipped schoolonceshe´d left home and now she is unemployable- at 19, so I am no use as a parent, but you have to start treating them as adults sometime.08:32
EleanorHave to switch ethernet to naughty system now - hope I´ll be back soon with an operable server.. Have fun,folks.08:38
serfusi want to install ubuntu from a DOK (on a windows machine) the file system of the DOK is ext3/ext4 , do i need to format it?13:19
Andy_1Hello everyone13:26
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arriva13i am using ubuntu 10.10 with wubi, at the installation i dediceted inly 6GB for the installation, cos i only wanted to try...but now i would like to enlarge those 6GB to try it a bit longer, is it possible??13:50
arriva13hey everyone :)13:51
aveilleuxarriva13, You can use a partition manager like GParted; it comes on the Ubuntu LiveCD13:52
arriva13ok, but wint it harm my windows partition13:53
arriva13?13:53
arriva13with all my datas?13:53
aveilleuxarriva13, No. GParted nondestructively resizes partitions.13:53
arriva13because it is actually installed as a program in windows to a directory on my C:windows partition13:55
aveilleuxarriva13, I know. The data on both partitions is unchanged.13:55
arriva13ok, i am gonna try it right now :)13:56
arriva13but it only shows me my C partition, like NTFS 80 Gigs14:00
arriva13no mention about a linux partition14:00
arriva13that is about 6 gb14:00
arriva13it is installed in my c: windows partition14:01
arriva13C:/ubuntu or something14:01
aveilleux...oh. Right. Wubi.14:01
arriva13yeah14:01
arriva13wubi14:01
aveilleuxWubi is so much different than a standard install, it's so hard to troubleshoot sometimes.14:02
arriva13or shall i just reinstall it completely with more space?14:02
aveilleuxI know it's possible to increase the size of the Wubi allocation, let me look something up14:02
arriva13is there any reason to make a clean install of ubuntu with all the partitioning rather than using wubi?14:03
aveilleuxarriva13, Yes, it's a million times simpler to manage.14:04
arriva13is it??14:04
aveilleuxarriva13, And it's running on a native Linux file system instead of NTFS.14:04
arriva13because i like ubuntu, but i want to keep windows as well...because ofmany apps i use there14:05
aveilleuxarriva13, You can dual-boot.14:05
arriva13i know14:05
arriva13but it takes some time14:05
arriva13wubi took me approx. 10 mins :)14:06
aveilleuxarriva13, Yes, but Wubi is a kind of terrible system for long-term deployment.14:06
arriva13you might be right14:06
arriva13my intention was just to give it a try :)14:06
arriva13i will consider all the partitioning and a clean install with dual boot14:07
arriva13:)14:07
aveilleuxarriva13, I can't find anything about increasing the size of the virtual discs... a lot of people asking, but no solutions.14:07
arriva13yeah...14:09
arriva13i might do a transfer from wubi to new partition14:09
arriva13i saw some instructions on doing that with some tool14:09
arriva13it is called LVPM14:10
aveilleuxarriva13, LVPM is the correct tool, but... I don't know how it works and the usage guides are a little out of date14:11
arriva13well i might do a clean install after resizing my partition in windows14:11
arriva13is there a graphical boot selector?? i have seen it on some netbook and i would like to get it too14:12
aveilleuxarriva13, How do you mean "graphical">14:12
aveilleux?*14:12
arriva13not just word: windows and ubuntu...there was a logo of windows and ubuntu on the screen instead of text14:13
arriva13i found that14:17
arriva13it is called BURG14:17
arriva13it replaces GRUB14:17
arriva13:)14:17
brennydooglesHey all14:32
brennydooglesCheri703, Still here?14:32
Cheri703yes14:32
Cheri703well, back :)14:32
brennydooglesMe too14:33
brennydoogles!14:33
brennydooglesSo you have a laptop eh?14:33
Cheri703netbook, but yep :)14:33
brennydooglesCool14:33
brennydooglesWould you mind trying out my new tutorial and telling me what you think?14:34
brennydooglesIt's pretty amazing.....14:34
brennydoogles:)14:34
Cheri703give me just a minute, apparently going to file a bug, but then, sure :)14:34
brennydooglesWoot!14:34
brennydoogleshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162943314:34
brennydooglesIt is about how to automatically disable your touchpad when an external mouse is connected14:35
Cheri703mine did it on its own last night and it was ANNOYING....I'm used to using a mix of both14:36
brennydoogleslol14:38
brennydooglesMy touchpad blows14:38
brennydooglesHowever, the script I wrote for that thread can be easily set as a keyboard shortcut, and that's ridiculously helpful14:38
brennydooglesbecause you can toggle the keyboard on or off with one key combination14:39
brennydooglesWell kids, I need to go help my wife cook for Thanksgiving14:41
brennydooglesHave a great day!14:41
Silver_Fox_Hello.14:44
pedro3005hello Silver_Fox_14:48
Silver_Fox_Hello pedro3005 .  How are you?14:48
pedro3005I'm doing well14:48
pedro3005and you14:48
pedro3005?14:48
Silver_Fox_I am okay thank you pedro3005 . Good to hear your alright :)14:49
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Andy_1hi14:59
Andy_1can anyone help me with this? read my last post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162979914:59
hakimsheriffWhich anitvirus is better Avast or AVG?15:58
Cheri703I prefer avast15:59
Cheri703avg is VERY bloated15:59
Cheri703I use avast combined with SuperAntiSpyware15:59
Cheri703*in windows15:59
hakimsheriffwhat about for ubuntu?15:59
pedro3005you don't really need an anti-virus for ubuntu16:00
pedro3005unless if you want to scan files for windows viruses16:00
hakimsheriffI just want to be extra secure16:02
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prasoonGood Evening.... i have ubuntu on my laptop along with kbuntu and win xp... i was trying to change the panel settings when i accidentally put 2 panels on the same location and all  my panels auto hide and when i log into ubuntu it it just freezes but in kbuntu it work  PLEASE PLEASE help me18:10
LostHorizonshi18:12
Mohan_chmlprasoon, can you atleast get into terminal? if you can, then restore panels to default18:13
Mohan_chmlprasoon, there?18:14
Mohan_chmlLostHorizons, hello18:14
Mohan_chmlprasoon, hit Alt+F218:14
prasoonMohan_chml but my kbuntu is woking18:15
Mohan_chmlprasoon, do you think it is a crash?18:15
prasooni am sorry i am not such a experienced user but this happened when i mistakenly put 2 panels in the same location ie. top18:16
Mohan_chmlprasoon, we can give a try by restoring panels in ubuntu18:17
Mohan_chmland if the only thing you have done is adding another pane;, your issue will get cleared18:17
Mohan_chmlprasoon, still there? please respond so that I can get to know that you are still here18:19
prasoonok how do i do that18:19
prasoonsorry18:19
Mohan_chmlokay lemme list it18:20
Mohan_chml1) press Alt+ F2 and in run application, type gnome-terminal18:20
prasoonu r asking me to do this in kbuntu18:20
prasoon??18:20
Mohan_chmlin the terminal, type the following commands one by one and hit enter18:21
Mohan_chmlprasoon, if you have issues in Ubuntu, then you should do it there18:21
Mohan_chmltry to run a failsafe boot18:21
prasoonok i am doing it in kbuntu18:21
Mohan_chmlno. you have that issue in Ubuntu right?18:22
prasoonsorry sir but how do i get into faul safe18:22
prasoon?18:22
prasoonyes sir it is in ubuntu18:22
prasoonone info i want to tell you18:23
Mohan_chmlin the login screen where you enter user name and password, you can see GMONE, try failsafe GNOME18:23
Mohan_chmltell that18:23
prasoonif i log off i can log into gnome i will try and come back here .18:24
prasoonif you can tell me what all i should do it will be great18:24
Mohan_chmlprasoon, or can you make a not of what I am telling?18:25
Mohan_chmlthen you can try that in ubuntu18:25
prasoonsorry sir if you tell me what all i should do i will do and come back as i am using the same laptop to contact you18:27
Mohan_chmlprasoon, 1) press Alt+ F2 and in run application, type gnome-terminal18:28
Mohan_chmlin the terminal, type the following commands one by one and hit enter18:28
Mohan_chml2) gconftool-2 --shutdown18:28
Mohan_chml3) rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel18:28
prasoonokok18:28
Mohan_chml4) pkill gnome-panel18:28
Mohan_chmland then reboot your machine18:28
Mohan_chmlit will do18:29
prasoonok18:29
prasooni will do and come back and tell you18:30
Mohan_chmlsure thing18:30
Mohan_chml:)18:30
prasoonthank you sir very much18:30
prasoonHello Sir18:50
zkriesseprasoon: yes?18:50
Mohan_chmlhey prasoon18:51
prasoonthere was an improvement18:51
Mohan_chmlwhat happened?18:51
prasoonlet me explain what all i did18:51
Mohan_chmlkay!18:51
prasoonfirst i logged into ubuntu with my user id  then i used the key board shortcuts to enter terminal an typed in all18:52
Mohan_chmlok18:52
prasoonthen reebooted agin ino my acc still the problem was there so i tried to renter terminal but insted off terminal i was seeing only dots and no charecters, but18:53
prasoonthere is another user id which is a standard user in that i could enter all was working fine but in my user id  i could not18:55
prasoonwhat should i do .... my user id is having root  privilage and the 2nd user doesnot18:55
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Mohan_chmlprasoon, and are you sure that you did added a new panel and nothing other than that?19:00
prasooni did not get you ???19:01
Mohan_chmlwhat you did before this issue came? just added a new panel?19:02
prasoonno no.... i had 4 panel one on each side...19:03
prasoonone which is on the right hand side was of cario dock19:03
prasoonall the other 3 are system panel19:03
prasoonie top botom and left19:04
Mohan_chmlhmmm! and then your machine got crashed right?19:04
prasoonno19:04
prasoonit was like this for the last 4 months19:04
prasoonand every thing was working fine19:04
prasoonbut i did a mistake i was trying to switch the left and right panel19:05
prasoonso first i quit the crio dock19:05
prasoonthen i opened the setting of the system panel on the left19:06
prasoonthen insted of clicking right i ckicked on top wher already one panel is there then pressed k19:06
prasoonsince i did this it is like that19:07
prasooni had put in all the panel property to self hide19:07
prasoonthis when the issue came up19:08
Mohan_chmlcan you take a screenshot of your desktop? with the top panel(s) displayed. also open terminal too and take a screenshot19:08
Mohan_chml!imagebin | prasoon19:08
ubot2prasoon: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.19:08
Mohan_chmlprasoon, then use the link about and upload that screenshot19:08
prasoonok i will do it and come back19:09
prasoonsorry i forgot to say i was not able to come out of terminal when i entered what should i do????19:10
Mohan_chmlprasoon, type exit and it will close19:12
prasoonit did not close19:13
Mohan_chmlGah! I cant get the actual issue of your machine. what is the Ubuntu version you are using? and whats the processor and RAM and swap space19:13
Mohan_chml?19:14
prasooni have a acer aspire 4920g intel core 2 duo with 2 gb RAM and i am using ubuntu 10.04 lts version & 2.6 gb of swap19:15
bioterrorI would like to see a screenshot of this problem19:15
Mohan_chmlprasoon, better take a screenshot and that will be much more helpful to us19:17
prasooni am extremly sorry for troubling you all this much19:17
Mohan_chmlas Isaid, make your top panel(s) get displayed and open terminal too19:17
prasoonyes i will take that and come back19:17
prasoonbut the top panel is alway visible19:17
Mohan_chmlokay have your terminal visible too19:18
prasoonand if looked at it closely it seems it tries to go and hide19:18
prasooni will take the screen shot and come back19:19
Mohan_chmlokay we will be here to help =]19:19
prasoonthank you19:19
evfoolhi all19:38
igihy19:44
Mohan_chmlhello19:47
igican i have more software in my Software Center?19:51
hobgoblinigi: they are controlled by repositories - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu19:55
igi:(19:59
hobgoblinif you need more - say so20:01
igijeah i need more software20:03
hobgoblinthen you add more repos and ppa's - did you look at that link?20:03
hobgoblinis there something specific you are looking for?20:04
igihmmm have all Linux OS a software center?20:05
hobgoblinnot that I know of20:06
hobgoblinyou could try looking in synapic instead of software centre20:06
prasoonhello20:07
prasoonthere is aproblem i could not take ascreen shot so i have made a video if you say some where i will upload it..20:08
hobgoblinigi: try synaptic in the sys admin menu - that will show all of the software that is in the repos you have enabled20:09
Mohan_chmlprasoon, make it  in youtube20:10
prasoonok few minutes20:10
igi@hodgoblin yeah thx i think that is it i look for20:12
hobgoblinigi: ok20:14
igithx20:14
hobgoblinwelcome20:15
LostHorizonshi guys20:17
Mohan_chmlheya hobgoblin. How are ya??20:19
hobgoblinMohan_chml: failing somewhat, it's been a loooooong day20:20
Mohan_chmlargh! :| Its nearly 2 AM here =]20:21
LostHorizonsguys I have a question that I need some help on........ I use a Macbook Pro and I was wanting to install a distro of linux rather than partioning my own harddrive as I am a complete newbie and don't want to go causing damage or messing something up.20:23
LostHorizonsso I asked on a forum about which distro would be suitable for me to install on a USB drive and someone said Ubuntu, however I don't see anywhere on the Ubuntu site information saying that you can install it on a USB drive20:23
LostHorizonsis this correct or am I missing something on the site:20:24
Mohan_chmlLostHorizons, please look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick20:26
LostHorizonsah right, thanks20:27
Mohan_chmlyw (:20:28
LostHorizonscan I ask, if i installed it on a USB drive, would it still work with my Macbook Pro's built in wi-fi?20:28
Mohan_chmlLostHorizons, when you make a Live USB, you can make it as a portable operating system. Like if you plug it in, the you can go to "try ubuntu" and can check whether you are satisfied with it20:29
LostHorizonsi see20:30
Mohan_chmlOnce you feel satisfied, then you can dual boot it with Mac OS by which you can have Ubuntu as well as Mac20:30
LostHorizonsMohan_chml: that's what I think would be complex20:30
LostHorizonstrying to partition my mac to do this20:30
LostHorizonsis there a simple program that will help me or clear instructions on how to do this for new users?20:30
Mohan_chmlNaw. and you have a common partition?20:30
Mohan_chmlor you have any separate partitions?20:31
LostHorizonsno, i have just one common partition20:31
LostHorizonswith the Mac OS X on it20:32
Mohan_chmlyou ca partition w.o data loss20:32
LostHorizonscan i do this with disk utility on my mac?20:33
Mohan_chmlLostHorizons, I dont know about Mac biut I found http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2002111905361456920:35
LostHorizonsOK thanks20:36
LostHorizonsi'lll read up on things a little more before doing anything20:36
Mohan_chml(:20:37
LostHorizonsthank you20:38
Mohan_chml=]20:38
prasoonhai my video is up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61s1uvziuyc21:08
prasoonplease ask of any doubts21:08
prasoonsorry it took toomuch tme than expected .....21:12
bioterrorthat video gets stuck at 3:06 at me21:18
bioterrorworks now21:20
bioterrormaybe graphics driver21:20
prasooni am not getting you ??21:21
bioterrordoes that happen with older kernels?21:21
bioterrorI saw you had few of them21:21
prasooni am sorry for the bad quality print as that is the only camera i have21:22
bioterrorI got the message from the video21:22
bioterrordoes that happen if you choose older kernel21:22
bioterroras I we saw, you chose the newest from the ist21:22
bioterrorlist21:22
bioterror -I21:23
prasooni tried that also but in my user id of the 2 there is this problem in all21:23
bioterrorsimple yes or no to my question21:23
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bioterrordoes that happen when you use older kernel from the GRUB list21:24
prasoonyes21:24
bioterroreven the oldest?21:24
prasoonyes21:24
bioterrorwhat's the model of your Acer laptop21:24
prasoonacer aspire 4920g21:25
prasoonif you noticed from the login screen i can choose between gnome , failsafe gnome , KDE and xterm21:27
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prasoonso i think the same graphics library is loaded for all   ?????21:27
prasooni can log into ubuntu or kbuntu from the login screen .... i dont have to restart to go to either ubuntu or kbuntu21:28
prasoonnow i am in kbuntu ....21:28
aveilleuxprasoon, "Kubuntu" is just Ubuntu with KDE. Underneath, they're no different. They just use a different display manager.21:29
prasoonok thank you21:29
prasoonbut i read that kde and gnome are different so i thought the os also will be.21:30
Mohan_chmlnope21:31
Mohan_chmlthe OS is the same. I saw the video and I dont know why terminal failed for you21:31
prasooni have a doubt ....if i put the live cd of ubuntu 10.04 can we recorrect the system ??? like in windows ... but i dont want any passwords and documents lost from it??21:32
m4n1shaveilleux: display manager? I think it is difference of Desktop Environment.21:32
aveilleuxm4n1sh, Both. Kubuntu uses KDM, Ubuntu (default) uses GDM.21:32
m4n1shaveilleux: well, even GDM can use used for GNOME and KDE21:33
m4n1shsame with KDM21:33
aveilleuxm4n1sh, Yes, they can. I was just explaining the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu. prasoon is not loading Kubuntu, but Ubuntu with KDE on top instead of GNOME.21:34
prasooni use ubuntu for all my personal stuff and storing passwords important documents ...21:34
prasooni am sorry aveilleux21:35
prasooni think you have interpreted it wrong ....21:35
aveilleuxprasoon, Using the login screen (which is GDM, the Gnome Display Manager) to load the KDE (K Desktop Environment) doesn't make it Kubuntu. I don't even bother differentiating anymore since it's all "Ubuntu" in the end anyway.21:36
Mohan_chmlaveilleux, prasoon is triple booting with Ubuntu, Kubuntu and M$. I told him to try get into failsafe GNOME and restore panels to default when he came at the first21:36
Mohan_chmlnow he is in his Kubuntu and not in KDE+ ubuntu21:37
prasoonyes absolutely correct21:37
Mohan_chmlaveilleux, saw that video?21:40
bioterrorthat laptop uses ATI Mobility Radeon X250021:43
prasoonsorry there is a correction the video card is ato mobility radeon 2400xt21:45
prasoonsorry ati21:45
bioterrorreally21:45
prasoon yes21:45
prasooni havw have the ati label on the keypad21:46
bioterrorwhich driver are you using21:46
bioterrorhdreadeon or fglrx?21:46
prasoonit is written ati radeon graphics hd 2400 xt21:47
prasoonhow do i find it??21:47
bioterrorcat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver21:47
bioterror:D21:47
bioterroror you can check it with gedit21:47
bioterroror anything21:47
bioterrorcant remember what's notepad editor in kde21:48
bioterrorusually ati cards makes one21:49
prasoonin the terminal it showed like this21:51
prasooncat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver21:51
prasoonroot@chittu:/home/prasoon/Documents# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver21:52
prasoonDriver"fglrx"21:52
prasoonroot@chittu:/home/prasoon/Documents# ^C21:52
prasoonroot@chittu:/home/prasoon/Documents#21:52
bioterrorokay21:52
bioterrorroot :o21:52
bioterrorsudo bash guys ;)21:52
prasoonwat??21:52
ibuclawsudo -i21:52
bioterrorprasoon, I think you should try to remove fglrx and try out radeonhd drivers21:53
bioterroryou can always flee back to propietary drivers21:54
bioterrorif you need21:54
bioterror  * M74:Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT21:54
bioterrorthat's supported21:54
bioterrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHD21:55
aveilleuxAck!21:55
aveilleuxprasoon, You're logged in as root??21:56
bioterrorafter removing, just sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd21:56
aveilleuxOh, nevermind me. I didn't read before reacting21:56
prasoonok i will do it now21:59
prasooni have done it22:14
bioterroryou removed fglrx drivers and installed readeonhd?22:15
prasoonyes22:15
bioterrorthen reboot and let's hope it gives a graphical envinronment22:15
bioterror;)22:15
prasoonok i will check and come back22:15
bioterrorhey22:15
bioterrorcheck first the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:15
prasoonwith the result22:15
prasoonroot@chittu:/home/prasoon/Documents# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver22:19
prasooncat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory22:19
prasoonthis is what it came22:19
bioterrorhoho22:20
bioterrorwell22:20
prasoonwhy??22:20
bioterrorif you dont get X working, boot to recovery mode and fix your X from there22:21
bioterrorbut reboot and let's see22:21
bioterrorI'm about to get bed22:21
bioterrorit's 00:21 in here22:21
prasoonok it i will meet you tomorrow its 0400 hrs here22:22
bioterrorwell22:22
bioterrorreboot now :D22:22
bioterrorI want to know :D22:22
prasoonok22:22
prasoonfew minutes22:22
bioterrorthat boot seems to take quite long...22:30
prasoonPLEASE DONOT MISTAKE ME22:33
prasoonI LOVE YOU22:33
bioterrorofcourse you do22:33
bioterror;)22:33
prasoonTHANK YOU VERY MUCH22:33
bioterrornp22:33
prasoonIT IS WORKING22:34
bioterrorsometimes propietary drivers are bad for you22:34
bioterrorremember, you dont get the same fps from radeonhd, but at least it doesnt fail22:34
prasoonbut for the last 6 months there were no problems atall\22:34
bioterroryeah well22:34
prasoonany way  thak you22:35
bioterroryou can check your cards performance with glxgears22:35
prasoonthankyou22:35
bioterroryou're welcome ;)22:35
prasoon i am sorry how do  i do tat22:35
bioterrorin terminal: glxgears22:35
prasoonok and i f i can ask where are you from22:36
bioterrorFinland22:36
bioterrorsorry, I'm a married man ;)22:36
prasoonhahahahahah...............awesome place22:36
Mohan_chmlbioterror, dont talk to Indians like that :P22:36
bioterrorhaha22:36
Mohan_chmlnight bioterror. heading to my sweet beds :P22:37
bioterroryeah22:37
bioterrorI should too22:37
Mohan_chmlits 4 AM :P22:37
bioterrormy back still aches22:37
prasoonthank you very much i am to its 4 here and so good morning22:37
bioterrorahhh, you indians22:37
SketchbagSo I have an ubuntu desktop edition running as a server and I was wondering if I can connect to that from either my netbook or a win xp or vista computer ...with root access because I lack a video cable22:37
bioterroryou have timezones with half n hour22:37
bioterrorSketchbag, is that a WAN server?22:38
prasoonand thank you very much Mohan_chml for your patience22:38
SketchbagMy netbook is a terriblke attempt at converting ubuntu to xubuntu22:39
SketchbagI use a dlink router22:39
bioterrorso you're behind NAT22:39
SketchbagYea its locked down22:39
Sketchbagbut only for outside networking22:40
bioterrorhmmmm22:40
bioterror/etc/ssh/sshd_config there's PermitRootLogin22:40
Sketchbagall my "inside" computers have no problems connecting to each other22:40
bioterrorI would not suggest to use ssh root@server22:41
bioterrorjust normal account and sudo22:41
SketchbagYes but I want a vi9rtual desktop22:41
Sketchbagvirtual*22:41
SketchbagI have an underpowered netbook with ubuntu to use as a "dummy"22:42
bioterroryou mean REMOTE DESKTOP?22:42
Sketchbagcorrect22:42
bioterrorlike VNC22:42
Sketchbagsorry if i was unclear22:42
bioterrorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34716322:43
SketchbagI have a single 23" monitor however a linux box and a win box is connected to it I can only have one at a time ..22:43
SketchbagLinbox is always on22:44
bioterroruse ssh -X22:44
SketchbagDoo  I need packages for that? If so what do I need on the server and what do I need on the host22:45
bioterrorfrom your laptop22:45
bioterrorssh user@server -X22:45
bioterrorhmmm22:46
Sketchbagin term would be easier to understand ...lool22:47
SketchbagI bet you dont hear that alot22:47
Sketchbagso i want to do say my server was serv ....and user was serving   ssh Serving@serv -"ip"?22:49
Sketchbagin term'22:50
bioterroryeah22:51
bioterrorI can start gedit from my X box now22:51
bioterror:D22:51
SketchbagInteresting22:51
bioterrorI dont get a full screen of the desktop22:51
bioterrorbut I can start X software thru the terminal when using $ ssh -X user@your.server22:52
SketchbagI only have 1024 686 or something anyways22:52
SketchbagI just need it to suplly or download remotely22:52
bioterrorand I can stream pr0n :D22:53
bioterrorlittle slow it is :D22:53
Sketchbaglmao22:53
SketchbagPr0N is excellent22:53
SketchbagI already have this serv connected to a xp , vista , buntu and 2 xbawks22:54
SketchbagI just want to it remotely22:54
bioterrorwhat do you want to do?22:54
SketchbagI want to0 use my buntu netbook to control my desktop box buntu server22:54
bioterrorcontrol what22:54
Sketchbaglol my buntu  netbook controls desktop box buntu serv22:55
bioterrorSketchbag, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers22:57
Sketchbaglol........k     I have a ubuntu 10.0w/e and i want to use a 9.1w/e to connect to it as root and control it rem otely through a wireless internet connection22:57
bioterrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients22:58
SketchbagI dont want it over the net though i want it local and secure22:58
bioterrorWHAT?22:58
Sketchbaglol...Am I asking for something that doesnt exist?22:58
bioterroryou say you want to control your "server" with remote desktop22:58
bioterrorand I offer you a VNC22:59
SketchbagMy server is at my house22:59
SketchbagOn the same network22:59
bioterrorwell22:59
bioterrorread what I pasted22:59
SketchbagA VNC server is a program that shares a desktop with other computers over the Internet.23:00
bioterrorI'm a really sorry that some dumbass wrote that documentation, it should "over the network"23:00
bioterror+say23:00
bioterrorI used to connect to my OS X with VNC23:01
bioterroron my LAN23:01
Sketchbag.....k I dont wan to be "exposed" its just a strange quirk of mine23:01
bioterrorif you're behind nat, you will not be exposed23:01
bioterrorif you just keep certain ports not forwarded23:01
SketchbagSo if I just use local ip's I should be okay?23:01
bioterroryes23:02
Sketchbagokay23:02
bioterrorbut I'm off to bed23:02
bioterrorgood night23:02
SketchbagThanx much23:02
SketchbagGoodnight23:02
aveilleuxSketchbag, Ubuntu always numbers x.04 or x.10. The numbers are significant of the date of release, not any specific version numbering.23:05
ibuclaw(with the exception of 6.06, which was 2 months late)23:09

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