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* charlie-tca waves19:00
highvoltagehey charlie-tca19:00
charlie-tcaAre we all here?19:00
charlie-tcacody-somerville, here?19:01
* cody-somerville is here.19:01
highvoltageI guess mhall119 will be here too19:01
charlie-tca#startmeeting19:01
MootBotMeeting started at 13:01. The chair is charlie-tca.19:01
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]19:01
charlie-tcaWell, let's do this then. The agenda for today is19:01
charlie-tca[TOPIC] Agenda19:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Agenda19:01
charlie-tca# Old business19:01
charlie-tca# Team updates (Packaging, Bug Triage, Development / Coding, Testing, Documentation, Artwork)19:01
charlie-tca# Announcements19:01
charlie-tca# Changes for Natty Narwhal19:01
charlie-tca# Continue working with the new Governance structure19:01
charlie-tca# Any Other Business19:02
charlie-tca[TOPIC] Old business19:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Old business19:02
charlie-tcaCarried over from the last meeting:19:03
charlie-tcacharlie-tca to get with thorwil and Saleel about artwork specs by email19:03
charlie-tcaThere is now a lively discussion taking place on the community artwork mailing list -19:03
charlie-tca[LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012604.html19:03
MootBotLINK received:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012604.html19:03
charlie-tcaWe have drawn up a draft of artwork specs for Xubuntu wallpaper, and any input is welcomed.19:04
charlie-tca[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper19:04
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper19:04
bittinhas the Xubuntu meeting started?19:04
highvoltagebittin: yep19:05
charlie-tcaIf you aren't on the ml, let me know and I will forward suggestions/guidance19:05
charlie-tcaWelcome, bittin19:05
bittiniam on the ml19:05
bittinhackerbittin@googlemail.com19:05
cody-somervilleInteresting discussions going on there.19:05
charlie-tcaThat was for the artwork mailing list, bittin19:05
bittinah19:05
bittinsorry19:05
charlie-tcaAlong with the wallpaper discussion there,19:06
charlie-tcaOchosi is currently reworking the xubuntu gtk-theme (aka bluebird), feel free to check it out @ http://shimmerproject.org/hg/bluebird-colors > greybird. in response to the reviews being somewhat divided regarding the blue i started by reducing it19:06
cody-somervilleIs Bluebird based off of Albatros at all?19:06
charlie-tcaum, yes, in that it does use the same engine and started there19:07
cody-somervilleI met the author of Albatros at UDS Brussels. I was surprised to find out that he is the same guy who did Ubuntu's new themes.19:07
charlie-tcaOchosi is particularily interested in  * panel19:07
charlie-tca * window-switcher (alt-tab)19:07
charlie-tca * scrollbars19:07
charlie-tcaHe is a really good artist.19:08
cody-somervillecharlie-tca, Ochosi or the author of Albatros?19:08
charlie-tcathe author of Albatros19:08
cody-somervilleIs he helping us with Natty?19:08
charlie-tcaNot to take anything away from ochosi, either19:08
charlie-tcathe albatross author is not helping at the moment19:09
cody-somerville(Interesting tidbit, the Author of Albatros is actually a cop in real life)19:09
highvoltagecool :)19:09
charlie-tcaneat119:09
cody-somervillecharlie-tca, so is the 'lighter' theme a direction we're going to continue with for natty?19:10
cody-somerville('lighter' as in color)19:10
charlie-tcaI hope so19:10
charlie-tcadark is nice, but lighter is easier for accessibility19:10
charlie-tcaOchosi is also working on an xfce-complete version of faenza (based on 0.7) which you can check out here: http://shimmerproject.org/hg/faenza-xfce19:10
charlie-tcaPlease give feedback to myself or ochosi on IRC19:10
charlie-tcaum, if anybody else wants to pick up this artwork thing, I would be thrilled19:11
charlie-tcaI am like a fish out of water with it sometimes19:11
* cody-somerville is no artist either.19:11
charlie-tcaWell, that's all I have on artwork. Any questions or comments?19:12
charlie-tcaI am going to consider the artwork action item closed. I will continue to pursue things with the artwork community.19:13
charlie-tcaThe other two action items, I did not get to.19:13
charlie-tca[TOPIC] Team updates19:14
MootBotNew Topic:  Team updates19:14
charlie-tcamr_pouit, did you make it?19:14
charlie-tcaFrom the developers team: the only "news" since last week is the upload of exo 0.5.5 to natty ;-)19:14
charlie-tcaUnless cody-somerville or micahg has more?19:14
cody-somervilleNothing in particular from me today19:15
* micahg is still learning19:15
charlie-tcaFrom the documentation team:19:15
charlie-tcaWe do have an individual working the Xubuntu docs. He is working on updating things and I will have more on that the next meeting.19:16
charlie-tcaFrom the bugs and testing team: We are hoping to see more people involved in testing. If we do not have anyone committed to test, we will not produce the image.19:16
charlie-tcaFor Alpha1, we will have i386 and amd64 images19:17
charlie-tcaWe already discussed artwork, and we really need a marketing director19:18
charlie-tcaAny questions on team updates?19:18
charlie-tca[TOPIC] Announcements19:18
MootBotNew Topic:  Announcements19:19
charlie-tcaWe will be putting out the Natty Alpha1 cd's next week. These are the first of a great release! It will not have Xfce4.8 in alpha1, though.19:19
charlie-tcaWe would really appreciate any help with testing these images starting November 3019:20
charlie-tcaAny other announcements?19:20
charlie-tca[TOPIC] Continue working with the new Governance structure19:21
MootBotNew Topic:  Continue working with the new Governance structure19:21
charlie-tcaThere should have been an action item last time for this, too.19:21
charlie-tcaI sent out an email to both Xubuntu Developers mailing list and the Community Council that we are looking to have a permanent Project Lead.19:22
charlie-tcaIt does take two nominees to have an election.19:22
charlie-tcaI will be a nominee, and will send my name to the CC this next week. Nominations are open until the 15th of December.19:23
charlie-tcaI do not want to go through another release without this happening, please.19:23
charlie-tcaany comments?19:23
charlie-tcaFeel free to speak up. I promise not to bite anyone!19:24
* highvoltage is just reading19:25
highvoltagecharlie-tca: who may nominate and who may be nominated, btw?19:25
charlie-tcaWell, I feel this is very important, and don't really see a need to continue the rest of the governance discussions until we can do something.19:25
charlie-tcaany individual may nominate him/her self or another person.19:26
* micahg was going to nominate charlie-tca19:26
charlie-tcaNominee names need to be sent to the CC19:26
highvoltagemicahg: I second that19:26
charlie-tcasee https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2010-November/007614.html19:28
charlie-tcaI will accept the nomination, but I think we will need two names to have a vote. I did give the CC a second proposal, though. We will see what happens19:29
charlie-tcaAny other discussion on governance?19:30
charlie-tca[TOPIC] Any Other Business19:30
MootBotNew Topic:  Any Other Business19:30
charlie-tcaOkay, everybody at once now19:31
charlie-tcagoing...19:31
charlie-tcagoing 2....19:32
charlie-tcaI will thank all of you for attending. Next meeting is Thursday, 2 Dec, same place, 19:00 UTC. Minutes will be published again.19:32
highvoltagemicahg: are you going to email the CC?19:33
micahghighvoltage: charlie-tca said he was going to nominate himseld19:33
charlie-tcaMeeting times and minutes are kept at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings19:33
highvoltageok cool19:33
micahg*himself, does there need to be more people nominating him?19:33
charlie-tcamicahg, yes, I think there should be.19:33
charlie-tcaI will not nominate myself if you want to19:34
micahgcharlie-tca: ok, I'll be happy to send a mail then19:34
charlie-tcaThank you19:34
charlie-tcaAnything else?19:34
micahgcharlie-tca: thank you for doing such a great job as Project Lead :)19:34
charlie-tcaThank you very much!19:34
charlie-tcaI am learning everyday19:34
charlie-tca#endmeeting19:35
MootBotMeeting finished at 13:35.19:35
beardygnomesorry I'm late19:43
charlie-tcaNo problem, beardygnome19:46
charlie-tcaThanks for trying to make it19:46
charlie-tcaI will put the minutes and log up shortly19:46
beardygnomeis the meeting over then?19:48
charlie-tcayes, it is. Log is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Xubuntu_2010-11-2519:53
beardygnomethanks charlie19:54
charlie-tcaYou are welcome19:54
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