=== jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === JanC_ is now known as JanC === yofel_ is now known as yofel === cking is now known as cking-afk === cking-afk is now known as cking === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [19:00] * charlie-tca waves [19:00] hey charlie-tca [19:00] Are we all here? [19:01] cody-somerville, here? [19:01] * cody-somerville is here. [19:01] I guess mhall119 will be here too [19:01] #startmeeting [19:01] Meeting started at 13:01. The chair is charlie-tca. [19:01] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [19:01] Well, let's do this then. The agenda for today is [19:01] [TOPIC] Agenda [19:01] New Topic: Agenda [19:01] # Old business [19:01] # Team updates (Packaging, Bug Triage, Development / Coding, Testing, Documentation, Artwork) [19:01] # Announcements [19:01] # Changes for Natty Narwhal [19:01] # Continue working with the new Governance structure [19:02] # Any Other Business [19:02] [TOPIC] Old business [19:02] New Topic: Old business [19:03] Carried over from the last meeting: [19:03] charlie-tca to get with thorwil and Saleel about artwork specs by email [19:03] There is now a lively discussion taking place on the community artwork mailing list - [19:03] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012604.html [19:03] LINK received: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012604.html [19:04] We have drawn up a draft of artwork specs for Xubuntu wallpaper, and any input is welcomed. [19:04] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper [19:04] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper [19:04] has the Xubuntu meeting started? [19:05] bittin: yep [19:05] If you aren't on the ml, let me know and I will forward suggestions/guidance [19:05] Welcome, bittin [19:05] iam on the ml [19:05] hackerbittin@googlemail.com [19:05] Interesting discussions going on there. [19:05] That was for the artwork mailing list, bittin [19:05] ah [19:05] sorry [19:06] Along with the wallpaper discussion there, [19:06] Ochosi is currently reworking the xubuntu gtk-theme (aka bluebird), feel free to check it out @ http://shimmerproject.org/hg/bluebird-colors > greybird. in response to the reviews being somewhat divided regarding the blue i started by reducing it [19:06] Is Bluebird based off of Albatros at all? [19:07] um, yes, in that it does use the same engine and started there [19:07] I met the author of Albatros at UDS Brussels. I was surprised to find out that he is the same guy who did Ubuntu's new themes. [19:07] Ochosi is particularily interested in * panel [19:07] * window-switcher (alt-tab) [19:07] * scrollbars [19:08] He is a really good artist. [19:08] charlie-tca, Ochosi or the author of Albatros? [19:08] the author of Albatros [19:08] Is he helping us with Natty? [19:08] Not to take anything away from ochosi, either [19:09] the albatross author is not helping at the moment [19:09] (Interesting tidbit, the Author of Albatros is actually a cop in real life) [19:09] cool :) [19:09] neat1 [19:10] charlie-tca, so is the 'lighter' theme a direction we're going to continue with for natty? [19:10] ('lighter' as in color) [19:10] I hope so [19:10] dark is nice, but lighter is easier for accessibility [19:10] Ochosi is also working on an xfce-complete version of faenza (based on 0.7) which you can check out here: http://shimmerproject.org/hg/faenza-xfce [19:10] Please give feedback to myself or ochosi on IRC [19:11] um, if anybody else wants to pick up this artwork thing, I would be thrilled [19:11] I am like a fish out of water with it sometimes [19:11] * cody-somerville is no artist either. [19:12] Well, that's all I have on artwork. Any questions or comments? [19:13] I am going to consider the artwork action item closed. I will continue to pursue things with the artwork community. [19:13] The other two action items, I did not get to. [19:14] [TOPIC] Team updates [19:14] New Topic: Team updates [19:14] mr_pouit, did you make it? [19:14] From the developers team: the only "news" since last week is the upload of exo 0.5.5 to natty ;-) [19:14] Unless cody-somerville or micahg has more? [19:15] Nothing in particular from me today [19:15] * micahg is still learning [19:15] From the documentation team: [19:16] We do have an individual working the Xubuntu docs. He is working on updating things and I will have more on that the next meeting. [19:16] From the bugs and testing team: We are hoping to see more people involved in testing. If we do not have anyone committed to test, we will not produce the image. [19:17] For Alpha1, we will have i386 and amd64 images [19:18] We already discussed artwork, and we really need a marketing director [19:18] Any questions on team updates? [19:18] [TOPIC] Announcements [19:19] New Topic: Announcements [19:19] We will be putting out the Natty Alpha1 cd's next week. These are the first of a great release! It will not have Xfce4.8 in alpha1, though. [19:20] We would really appreciate any help with testing these images starting November 30 [19:20] Any other announcements? [19:21] [TOPIC] Continue working with the new Governance structure [19:21] New Topic: Continue working with the new Governance structure [19:21] There should have been an action item last time for this, too. [19:22] I sent out an email to both Xubuntu Developers mailing list and the Community Council that we are looking to have a permanent Project Lead. [19:22] It does take two nominees to have an election. [19:23] I will be a nominee, and will send my name to the CC this next week. Nominations are open until the 15th of December. [19:23] I do not want to go through another release without this happening, please. [19:23] any comments? [19:24] Feel free to speak up. I promise not to bite anyone! [19:25] * highvoltage is just reading [19:25] charlie-tca: who may nominate and who may be nominated, btw? [19:25] Well, I feel this is very important, and don't really see a need to continue the rest of the governance discussions until we can do something. [19:26] any individual may nominate him/her self or another person. [19:26] * micahg was going to nominate charlie-tca [19:26] Nominee names need to be sent to the CC [19:26] micahg: I second that [19:28] see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2010-November/007614.html [19:29] I will accept the nomination, but I think we will need two names to have a vote. I did give the CC a second proposal, though. We will see what happens [19:30] Any other discussion on governance? [19:30] [TOPIC] Any Other Business [19:30] New Topic: Any Other Business [19:31] Okay, everybody at once now [19:31] going... [19:32] going 2.... [19:32] I will thank all of you for attending. Next meeting is Thursday, 2 Dec, same place, 19:00 UTC. Minutes will be published again. [19:33] micahg: are you going to email the CC? [19:33] highvoltage: charlie-tca said he was going to nominate himseld [19:33] Meeting times and minutes are kept at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [19:33] ok cool [19:33] *himself, does there need to be more people nominating him? [19:33] micahg, yes, I think there should be. [19:34] I will not nominate myself if you want to [19:34] charlie-tca: ok, I'll be happy to send a mail then [19:34] Thank you [19:34] Anything else? [19:34] charlie-tca: thank you for doing such a great job as Project Lead :) [19:34] Thank you very much! [19:34] I am learning everyday [19:35] #endmeeting [19:35] Meeting finished at 13:35. [19:43] sorry I'm late [19:46] No problem, beardygnome [19:46] Thanks for trying to make it [19:46] I will put the minutes and log up shortly [19:48] is the meeting over then? [19:53] yes, it is. Log is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Xubuntu_2010-11-25 [19:54] thanks charlie [19:54] You are welcome === Craig_Dem_ is now known as Craig_Dem === Craig_Dem_ is now known as Craig_Dem