[00:00] kirkland: ping [00:02] _Techie_: So if I look up ssh motd, I can replicate it telling me ram usage and such? [00:03] _Techie_: Thanks [00:04] <_Techie_> veovis1, you could search, how to disable ssh motd on ubuntu, that should provide the information on how to disable it, and therefore if you reverse the process, it should be enabled [00:04] _Techie_: Thanks, I'll try that too... [00:10] _Techie_: Yeah, /etc/update-motd.d is a collection of scripts that you can edit. Thanks! === ng_ is now known as NG_ [00:11] <_Techie_> veovis1, no problem [00:35] hello world [00:36] I am getting the nosegneg TLS warning (https://gist.github.com/714703) in dmesg, though I do not see 4gb seg fixup in my logs and do not see a performance hit [00:36] how can I find out where this is coming from, I have in the past had to recompile ruby enterprise with the appropriate flags but I thought the libc6-xen package handled this for me [00:46] can someone help me get the priority upped on this? the patch fix is listed in the comments, and just needs to be added by the maintainer. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/668042 [00:46] Launchpad bug 668042 in libvirt "target device info is not in dumpxml" [Low,New] === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === hackeron_ is now known as hackeron === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ [02:09] i'm testing my encrypted raid10 [02:09] the system boots with all disks. when i unplug i'm dumped to the standard busybox [02:09] i tried to set mdadm boot degraded to true but that doesn't work [02:10] how may i boot the system === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ [03:15] anyone here? [03:53] draven_sol, ya? [04:02] !anyone > draven_sol [04:02] draven_sol, please see my private message [04:04] hello [04:04] how come spamassassin is giving mail, including spam very low scores [04:05] I'm running Mandriva on a different server, and it's doing a lot more tests that the stock SA ubuntu installation [04:05] twb do you know how to install an encrypted raid so if it degrades the system will still boot, the raid is raid10 [04:05] Sure. It's asked of you at install time in expert mode [04:06] draven_sol: I *think* it's BOOT_DEGRADED=true in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm [04:06] (Then "update-initramfs -u -k all", of course.) [04:07] twb, i've set that and ran the update-initramfs -u all [04:07] it continues to fail and drop me to busy box [04:08] twb, i've kept /boot on a separate unencrypted non-raided drive and have / on the encrypted raid [04:08] draven_sol: this is lucid? [04:08] 10.04 lts server [04:08] Works for me on 10.04, but I only have RAID1 and do not encrypt the root filesystem [04:09] twb, do you have any part of the raid encrypted? essentially i could just make a /data encrypted mount point on the raid and leave / unencrypted [04:09] Incidentally, what is the point of encrypting the root filesystem of a SERVER? That would mean either 1) you keep the secret on-disk, defeating the point of using it; or 2) you need to be physically present every time you reboot. [04:10] draven_sol: I do not do block encryption at all [04:10] twb, it's a home media server and i prefer to keep all things encrypted, so it is physically present [04:12] twb, i've managed to have the system "install" and boot where it looks to be encrypted and raided but unlike a standard raid10 if i pull a drive out to test if it can boot degraded after it's synced i can't recover thus rendering the system dead [04:13] It drops you to a busybox shell, right? [04:13] yes [04:13] Does it say something like "add bootdegraded=yes to boot paramters"? [04:15] If you have been testing things, one possibility is that you're boot the array which was already out-of-sync [04:15] i.e. it tries to boot degraded, but only the disk you removed has an up-to-date copy [04:16] twb, i booted the system and allowed it to be fully synced prior to powering off and removing the drive using mdadm --device /dev/md0 [04:16] I'm trying to setup postgresql 9.x using ubuntu-server 10.10 [04:16] does 10.10 only use ipv6? [04:16] the clients can't seem to access it using the ipv4 schema. [04:16] etcetera: define "only" [04:17] twb: will it only negotiate inbound requests from valid ipv6 addresses [04:17] etcetera: AFAIK everything SHOULD default to dual-stack [04:18] can't get postgres clients to connect to it even though I have a valid pg_hba.conf [04:18] twb, since i've encrypted /etc and anything other than boot can i assume that the bootdegraded option for the initramfs-tools will not be read and will not auto attemp to boot a degraded system? [04:19] draven_sol: IIRC the ramdisk's behaviour is to mdadm --assemble --scan [04:19] draven_sol: i.e. it won't care about /etc/mdadm.conf being inaccessible [04:21] ok, when i've issued that command in busybox it complains about not finding /dev/md0 and the user root [04:22] draven_sol: you issued what command? [04:22] the mdadm --assemble --scan [04:24] mdadm --misc --scan --detail, then check dmesg and /proc/mdstat [04:24] with bootdegraded=yes, it should then go on to mdadm --assemble --scan --run (the --run forces it). [04:24] ..those last two commands are straight from /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/mdadm [04:25] Which at your busybox prompt is /scripts/init-premount/mdadm [04:26] twb, thank you [04:29] what's the correct way to specify an ipv6 range for an internal network? [04:30] etcetera: isn't the netmask fixed at halfway in? [04:30] twb: ? [04:31] Maybe that's only for RIR-level allocations [04:31] yea I'm hosting a virtualbox instance of ubuntu-server. [04:31] but the vbox instance is getting a proper address from the router. [04:32] trying to assign a range for the intranet the postgres server can respond to. [04:34] Unless you actually care about IPv6, I suggest you just work out how to make postgres talk IPv4 [04:34] twb: that's the issue, I don't think it's talking over ipv4 [04:34] ifconfig eth0 doesn't show a valid ipv4 address. [04:35] so fix that [04:35] ? [04:36] etcetera: do what you gotta do so that it DOES get an IPv4 address [04:36] well..shouldnt ubuntu-server do ipv4 / v6 at the same time? [04:36] Yes [04:36] I mean the router says it's gotta a valid ipv4 address, ifconfig just is not showing it. [04:38] if it does both, why wouldnt it show the valid ipv4 address.... [04:40] I don't know. [04:40] Pastebin the output of "ip l; ip a; ip r" [04:41] twb: none of them shows a valid ipv4 address. [04:41] you would think they would shout something like this from the rooftops. [04:42] *WE ARE CHANGING THIS< YO* [04:44] I don't know who you mean by "they", but I haven't heard of anybody else having problems with IPv4 in postgres or ubuntu. [04:44] i'm sure it's just my incompetence. [04:44] Which sounds to me like you've fucked up somehow, although I can't tell how from what you've told me. [04:44] I havent messed with linux in forever. [04:45] Maybe you haven't got proxy ARP (or even basic networking) working correctly [04:45] That would prevent you getting an IPv4 address, but you ALWAYS get an IPv6 address. [04:45] I've got a valid ipv6 address that I can ping from the host. [04:46] etcetera: is ARP working? [04:46] no idea what that is :-( [04:46] ARP is a protocol for associating ethernet MACs with TCP/IP addresses. [04:46] DHCP relies on it [04:46] DCHPv4 does, I mean [04:48] so, how would I check that it's working? [04:48] arping? ip neighbour show? [04:49] Note that it has to work between your VM and your DHCP server. [04:49] i.e. working between your domU and your dom0 is necessary but not sufficient [04:50] hmm, interesting... [04:50] that coud be one reason why it's not working, ive bridge the two devices, the host can ping the guest, but the guest can't ping anything. [04:50] *facepalm* [04:52] ICMPv4 over ethernet also inherently relies on ARP [05:33] upgrade from 8.10 to 10.4 but keep GRUB and exclude GRUB2 - can I do this from the [05:33] command line using apt-get upgrade ? [05:41] do-release-upgrade states 'No New Release Found' status set to normal, not 'never' or 'lts' only, the system is 9.04 trying to upgrade to 10.04. Any ideas? [06:26] New bug: #436630 in spamassassin (main) "spamassassin caches DNS servers forever" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436630 === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ [06:58] !away | _Techie_ [06:58] _Techie_: You should avoid noisy away messages and -nicks in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away " to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines» [06:58] <_Techie_> nigelb, seriously, you lote are starting to really piss me off [06:58] hrm? [06:59] <_Techie_> i left #xubuntu because of that, i got banned from #ubuntu earlier today due to it [07:00] <_Techie_> so i mean this in the nicest way, leave me the F alone [07:00] <_Techie_> ask me anything else, just dont use !away [07:01] _Techie_: plonk [07:03] meh, its just IRC manners and part of the ubuntu guidelines [07:03] <_Techie_> well until a mod decides if my 2 lines are worse than 2 lines of parts and joins, i dont give a rats arse about the guidelines [07:17] upgraded from lucid to 10.10 with a raid 5. can not boot "ALERT! /dev/mapper/(username)-root does not exsist. dropping to a shell!" Any help on this one? [07:26] anyone know if it's possible to filter 'top' output by process name? [07:48] yes, tried the ? key [07:49] by > > it move from default cpu % to sorting by name [08:01] New bug: #681245 in php5 (main) "package libapache2-mod-php5 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681245 [08:23] hello [08:24] my sudoers file is like this www-data localhost=(ALL) NOPASSWD: sudoedit /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf [08:24] itthe plan is let www-data modify tthe dhcpd.conf file [08:24] Yikes. [08:24] but it doesn't work [08:24] what's wrong? [08:24] www-data and NOPASSWD. [08:24] itthe=the [08:25] soren: i have a cgi that must modify that file [08:25] via webpage [08:26] truth that the cgi doesn't execute the sudo command in anywhere, but doesn't grant the permission anyway? [08:26] <_Techie_> ermm [08:26] <_Techie_> why not move the file into a writeable area and symlink it back [08:26] /etc/sudoers only defines what sort of privs people get if they calll things through sudo. [08:27] _Techie_: to do that i prefer give chmod 777 then [08:27] soren: no chance then? [08:28] You can't just put something in sudo's configuration file and expect it affect people not using sudo. [08:28] <_Techie_> why not change the owner or the group [08:28] <_Techie_> rather than the whole lot [08:29] HackeMate: IOW, your cgi has to call sudoedit. [08:30] ...but I'm still not sure what you expect to happen. Can you CGI drive a visual, interactive editor? [08:30] your. [08:35] HackeMate: Techie is right. chgrp www-data /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf && chmod g+w /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf ... simple and fairly safe. [08:35] HackeMate: more likely is that you'll need sudo to restart/reload the service [08:40] SpamapS: I solved that part [08:40] the cgi does an exec sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server that works [08:40] SpamapS: no problem about changing the group and the user of that file? [08:41] i mean if the file is deleted and restored a backup from ssh [08:41] or some strange situation [08:42] HackeMate: If your backup/restore procedure alters file ownership, you're screwed anyway. [08:43] moin [08:43] well, true that [08:44] so the only problem could be if an user via ssh modifies or changes the attributes [08:45] i'll create a solution that verifies itss perrmissions and i guess it should be ok [08:47] thanks yguys, you helped me [08:47] but now! (heh, sorry for abuse) the dhcpd log is stored in /var/log/dhcpd.log [08:47] i wannt to rotate it so i put rotate daily and size=4096k in logrotate.conf [08:48] but the file is being big [08:48] not rotate [08:48] what i miss [08:49] <_Techie_> james [08:49] <_Techie_> sorry wrong channel [09:07] HackeMate: install logrotate :) [09:51] +spamI did [09:51] SpamapS: I did [10:07] this is my logrotate.conf http://pastebin.com/cbb5ZP0i- at those [10:08] if i want rotate dhcpd [10:08] what block do i need add [10:08] or //var/log/dhcpd/dhcpd.log [10:09] im freaking lagged [10:22] Anyone know if Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud supports booting from an LVM logical volume? === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ [11:16] Hi guys. I really do need some advice setting up a mail-server. I have my main site, mycompany.com on amazon, and mail.mycompany.com and smtp.mycompany.com are pointed to another IP address, that's a mail hosting service (loopia.se). I've set up exim4 on my server (mycompany.com) and want to send out emails from me@mycompany.com, but they are getting marked as spam and I'm getting them back saying "550-Unrouteable address\n550 Sender [11:16] verify failed". rdns for mycompany.com is okay, but MX is directed to the mail-service. Any suggestions, please? === SirFiChi is now known as ihCiFriS [13:00] 'morning. How does ubuntu Firewall options compare to other's? Say embedded router with dd-wrt or even server specific distro's like a smoothwall or something? === twister004__ is now known as twister004 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [13:35] ehcah: same thing [13:35] ehcah: they're all based on iptables [13:40] RoyK: I'm trying to figure out how to bypass my Telco's gateway as no matter how I try to disable their embeded firewall, I can not. [13:41] RoyK: Their Fiber is connected to some sort of gateway, which then is connected via ethernet to a their router. [13:46] RoyK: I got a head of myself there a bit... Assuming that I can figure out how to make a direct connection without the second telco provided device, I want to host my own router on either Ubuntu, dd-wrt, pfsense, clearOS, Untangle, you get the picture... [14:24] Hey guys. Currently i have a 30gb drive for my ubuntu server installation. Is it possible for me just to take an image of that drive and apply that image to a 120gb drive? [14:26] New bug: #681399 in pptpd (main) "Please merge pptpd 1.3.4-3 (main) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681399 [14:43] Hello, Is there an option to list all apt packages with their NAME? [14:45] rotem925: sudo dpkg -l [14:45] hi zul, but it doesnt list the name [14:45] rotem925: 'name' ? [14:45] yea, the name of the package like when i get the package info [14:48] jpds: I mean the full package name [14:54] rotem925: you mean you want 'wireshark_1.2.11-2_i386.deb' instead of 'wireshark'? [14:54] I mean, When im apt for openssh, it should show openSSH (Im on the iPhone) [14:55] all the com.package. should be shown as the package name on the iphon [14:55] what is --showformat? [14:56] rotem925: sorry, i don't understand you ["When im apt for openssh, it should show openSSH (Im on the iPhone)"] [14:57] pmatulis: heh sorry, when im using dpkg -s the package name is different from what i see when im using the -l [14:57] pmatulis: the question is: can I list all the packages information? like running dpkg -s for all packages [14:58] with one command [14:59] pmatulis: something like this: dpkg --show * [15:06] rotem925: i don't think so. you'll need to pipe some commands together [15:06] rotem925: for all installed packages you mean? [15:07] pmatulis: yea it looks like you are right, can you give me a hand here? I need to pipe the dpkg -l with apt-cache show * [15:07] rotem925: for all installed packages you mean? [15:07] for all packages, not only installed [15:12] rotem925: that info is in file /var/lib/dpkg/available i think [15:12] pmatulis: hmmm, ill have a look, thanks!! [15:15] pmatulis: yep, you are right this file looks like it have all the packages info [15:42] New bug: #681427 in ipsec-tools (main) "Please merge ipsec-tools 1:0.7.3-12 (main) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681427 === NG_ is now known as ng_ [16:57] Hey, Is there a file in ubuntu that has all the packages in apt? [16:57] not only the installed packages, all of them [17:03] rotem925: huh? [17:04] hello air^ : [17:04] ill explain what i need [17:04] I need to get all the packages for the apt, I mean all the packages information [17:04] Is there a file for that? [17:05] why would you need that? [17:06] if you want to find something, just use apt-cache search [17:06] I'm working on an application that need a list of all packages available [17:07] air^: any clue? [17:07] nope. [17:17] hey guys [17:17] how goes things? [18:09] It would appear that all/most of repositories are coming back failed when I "apt-get update" . Is there a command I run to fix the default repo's for 10.04 Server? I have not modified the sources.list file by hand, so I am not sure what happened. [18:17] can anyone give me any advice about a project dealing with ubuntu-server user management? [18:20] ehcah, that usually happens when your DNS is broken, or your connection is otherwise disrupted [18:20] also, check for proxy settings in apt [18:20] andylockran: just ask! [18:21] highvoltage: I'd consider myself a beginner programmer, with a bit of experience at administering OpenLDAP servers [18:21] evening [18:21] what would be the best project for me to look at in terms of being able to potentially contribute to user management on ubuntu-server. [18:22] i'm using 7 ubuntu servers, and i'm thinking about to use landscape [18:22] qman_: This box is providing DNS for the rest of my LAN? [18:22] but I don't get it :( is it completly commercial, or partial commercial? [18:22] andylockran: Gosa is used quite widely but is in a horrible state in Ubuntu atm. imho that would be a good place to contribute [18:22] Qman_ will check to see that proxy is off in apt. [18:23] Aison: the landscape client is free software, the server side isn't [18:23] but with the client alone I can't do anything, I guess ;) [18:23] Aison: indeed [18:24] Aison: except, if you have lots and lots of time, write your own server :) [18:24] well, maybe i'm going to buy it, that's not a problem ;) [18:24] but I don't know if it's the right solution for me [18:24] that would be the easier solution [18:24] Aison: you can sign up for a trial on the landscape site [18:24] highvoltage: thanks, I'll take a look [18:25] qman_: Shouldn't I be able to find proxy settings in apt.conf? [18:25] :) [18:28] can't find any prices for landscape?!? maybe i'm blind [18:29] its part of ubuntu advantage [18:29] base plan is £200 iirc [18:30] hey guys do we have any wordpress users or people using wordpress on their servers for a blog or otherwise? [18:31] ehcah, grep -R Proxy /etc/apt/ [18:32] also, just because you're providing DNS doesn't mean your local name resolution is working [18:32] check resolv.conf and nsswitch [18:32] err [18:32] ehcah, sudo grep -Ri proxy /etc/apt/ [18:33] eagles0513875: yep [18:33] meanwhile, I've run into trouble after upgrading my proxy server to lucid [18:33] squid is running, but upstart has no idea that it is [18:33] highvoltage: how are you imporving the number of page request served to a particular site [18:33] qman_ I had already added sudo to the first command. Neither it, or the second fixed the problem. I'll have a boo at the other two files you mentioned. [18:33] I can't figure out how it's being started and, as a result, how to stop/restart it [18:34] i have one site and according to ab highvoltage im doing about 8,95 requests per second are you using a wordpress caching plugin or squid proxy [18:34] eagles0513875: stgraber got some good performance (>1500 requests to the server a second) by (I think) using a reverse proxy [18:35] highvoltage: cuz i was considering setting up squid [18:35] on the site they boast performance gains of up to 75% [18:35] eagles0513875: yeah if you hang around a little bit he might be around and be able to give you some tips there [18:35] ill be on [18:36] soon have to relocate my bum to the couch for my weekly favorite tv show [18:36] ice road trucker but ill be on [18:38] qman_: Tried your suggestions. I added an externally hosted DNS entry into resolv.conf, restarted DNS and DHCP services and still not working. [18:39] ehcah, what does `nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com` return (or your locality)? [18:40] highvoltage: just tell him to poke me please [18:40] and before anyone asks me "why nslookup", it's because dig doesn't use the system's resolution method [18:41] qman_: Came back with Non-authoritive answer: Name: us.archive.ubuntu.com (next line) Address: 91.189.92.170.... [18:42] qman_: SERVFAIL reply from 111.111.111.111, trying next server... [18:42] well, that looks like the problem [18:42] qman_: The 1's representing my IP for my server. I got its answer from my routers IP address instead. [18:42] apt isn't trying as hard as nslookup [18:43] solve that problem and your apt problem should go away [18:43] Ok. [18:47] hey guys quetsion anyone in here use squid and if so how much has it improved the number of page requests to apache per second [18:47] qman_: If you have an extra second. Can you have a look at: http://lani78.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/setting-up-a-dns-for-the-local-network/ This is how I configured my DNS and all the testing at the bottom works? [18:47] I use squid, but as a regular proxy, not a reverse proxy [18:49] ehcah, that's all fine, but your problem is with internet resolution [18:49] what's in your /etc/resolv.conf? [18:49] if it's just 127.0.0.1, is your server forwarding requests or does it use root hints? [18:50] 2 name server entries. First, my Server IP, Second, my Router IP. [18:50] qman__: what bout a caching proxy server [18:51] ehcah: i normally in my resolv.conf put the isps name server ips [18:51] eagles0513875, I use it with two purposes, an apt caching proxy, and an access control proxy for a couple machines [18:51] eagles0513875: When I was trying to fix it earlier, my 3rd line was my ISP's DNS. [18:51] far as apt caching, with the right tuning, it does what it's supposed to, faster upgrades [18:52] ehcah: remove yoru local server ip and router and put the ips of isp name servers [18:52] no [18:52] qman__: have you used apache with squid [18:52] leave 127.0.0.1 in there, otherwise local resolution won't work from that server [18:52] and if other machines are using it, those machines wouldn't get internet DNS either [18:52] as in : nameserver 127.0.0.1 ? [18:52] qman__: thats odd in my resolv.conf on my server i have just my isps name servers [18:52] yes [18:52] ahh ok [18:52] i see what ya doing [18:53] the local machine will be doing ns resolution for the network [18:53] I have nameserver localipaddress not 127.0.0.1 [18:53] then, attempt some name resolution, and see what /var/log/syslog looks like [18:53] that's where bind logs [18:53] the local IP is fine too [18:53] I just use 127.0.0.1 for aesthetic reasons [18:53] makes it obvious at first glance what's going on [18:54] no dice. [18:55] yes, but see what errors it gives in /var/log/syslog [18:56] is there a command in nano to get to the bottom of the log? I'll be paging down until Sunday? [18:56] I don't know nano [18:56] but try this [18:57] tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog | less [18:57] * RoyK points ehcah to vimtutor [18:58] Nov 25 14:45:06 myserver named[1985]: error (network unreachable) resolving 'mail/A/IN' : 2001:dc3::35#35 [18:58] That is the last error on the apge [18:59] *page. [18:59] Hey Roy [18:59] hi [19:00] try this, filter out the noise [19:00] grep named /var/log/syslog | tail -n 100 | less [19:00] heh, mail? people don't use fqdn anymore? [19:01] i need to setup my fqdn at some point PatrickDK [19:01] i have apache2 complaining bout that every restart of it [19:01] oh, apache complains on mine too [19:01] about the hostname or something [19:01] PatrickDK: how on earth do you fix that [19:02] ya, can't reliably determine the hostname [19:02] that's easily fixed with /etc/hosts [19:02] I ignore it cause I only use vhosts, and it's all set in the vhost configs [19:02] you need to put your FQDN in there, with your local bind address [19:02] so the default doesn't much matter [19:02] like so [19:02] 192.168.1.6 web.yournet.com web [19:02] and if the local bind address = 0.0.0.0? [19:02] qman_ same error. [19:03] qman__: internal ip or external public ip [19:03] your interface's address [19:03] ahh ok [19:03] it gets more complicated if you have more than one listening interface [19:04] qman__: i woudl need to change 127.0.1.1 eagle [19:04] ehcah, look for actual attempts at resolution there, e.g. us.archive.ubuntu.com [19:04] eagles0513875, no [19:04] where the loop back ip becomes the interface ip and eagle becomes my fqdn [19:04] leave that one alone, and add another line [19:04] i have a 2nd line thats like the one i pasted but localhost [19:05] my mouse's battery died, slowing me down [19:05] tyt qman__ [19:06] don't map two hosts to the same IP in /etc/hosts [19:06] your /etc/hosts should look something like this [19:06] 127.0.0.1 localhost [19:06] 192.168.1.6 web.yournet.com web [19:06] and then the ipv6 junk at the bottom [19:07] qman_: Way too much to type: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/536408/ [19:08] ehcah, that clears things up [19:08] for some reason, bind is unable to contact those DNS servers [19:08] are you running a firewall of any kind? [19:08] Not deliberately! :) [19:08] Nothing that has changed anyway. [19:08] it just means it can't resolve it [19:08] test your DNS servers [19:09] no [19:09] his local server can't connect to those server IPs [19:09] This isn't a US - Canada thing is it? :) [19:09] network unreachable [19:09] We won that hockey game fair and square! [19:09] why would his DNS server by connecting to the repos ? [19:09] no, you should still be able to contact those servers [19:09] his DNS server is not connecting to the repos [19:10] it is attempting to look up the repos [19:10] and is failing, because it can't contact the root DNS servers [19:10] is the named.ca or root.hint file there [19:10] in bind? [19:10] is that zone even defined [19:10] yes, in bind [19:10] he's getting network unreachable [19:10] I assume it is defined, otherwise it wouldn't know to contact those servers [19:11] I wonder if this is on a home dsl/cable connection [19:11] what happens if you ping 192.5.5.241 ? [19:12] I'm reaching here, but I seem to remember having to generate a key of some sort when installing Bind. Could it have gone awry? [19:12] they should go through and come back [19:12] "network unreachable". [19:12] no, bind would not start [19:12] well, there you have it [19:12] you're not on the full internet [19:12] either your router/firewall is blocking you, or your ISP is [19:12] assuming you have any network connectivity at all [19:13] I definately have network connectivity. All other devices are functioning correctly. [19:13] pastebin the results of `ip a s` and `ip r s` [19:13] I'm going to try to "wget" something. [19:13] k. [19:13] and also try to ping your router or another local computer [19:14] ping'ing internally works fine. [19:15] how about pinging 209.85.225.99 [19:15] qman__: i bet if he were to put the ips of his isp's ns's that it woudl work [19:15] it works just fine for me like that [19:15] qman_: Commands not found for 'ip a s' and ... [19:15] eagles0513875, it would work, but that would not solve the problem [19:16] his DNS server would remain non-working [19:16] qman_ Host unreachable. [19:16] he'd simply stop using it [19:16] ok [19:16] ok [19:16] ehcah, that last IP is google [19:16] so your server is not able to reach the internet [19:16] it's not just a DNS blockage [19:16] routing problem thn? [19:16] then? [19:16] yes [19:16] ehcah: is your server using a static internal ip? [19:16]