[00:06] Navirio: I done ate it. sorry [00:06] lol [00:07] I don't think I want to know what you're referring to dmcglone... [00:07] Pizza Cheri703 [00:07] Navirio: wanted me to bring hims some pizza [00:09] ah, ok [00:09] LOL what was going on in that mind of yours? [00:09] just saying [00:11] dang it, I need another monitor! [00:11] LOL [00:11] 3? [00:11] I got 2, but I need another one now! [00:11] heh [00:11] they're addictive [00:11] it's always hard for me to go back to my 10" netbook screen after using the 20" 16:10 monitor [00:11] I need 1 more monitor to put this chat window on while I write code [00:12] heh [00:12] lol [00:12] problem is, my graphics card will only take 2 [00:12] I'd have to get another card [00:13] or a usb monitor [00:14] don't tempt me girl ;-) [00:14] anyone good with font's? [00:17] I'm always trying to find that "right" font, but always afraid nobody will have it. then everything will look like crap on the website [00:17] I'm a fan of verdana [00:18] I love dejavu sans [00:19] lol [00:20] what Navirio? [00:22] i liek katz [00:23] if and when i show up at an ubuntu hour i will unleash hordes of them from the under world mostly to help me steal paninis [00:27] i dont think i spelled panninis correctly thats what they sell at that um place right? [00:29] I have no idea what your referring to... LOL [00:30] that panera place [00:31] panera bread? [01:01] i need a new keyboard all the ink is gone [01:09] lol [01:10] I need to start on some rolls soon...have to take them tomorrow for dinner [01:10] That was a good one Navirio [01:10] all night for rolls? [01:11] no, but they need at least 2 hours of rising time (checking baking time now), and I'm hoping to leave around 10:30 or 11am [01:11] bakes for 20-25 min [01:12] I'd take them to bake at my friend's house, but she'll have the turkey in the oven [01:15] I see [01:17] :/ [01:17] though I might make the dough and put it in the fridge and bake tomorrow...I dunno. I don't want to do it tonight -_- [01:20] how long will it take to bake them? [01:21] 25 min [01:21] they're oatmeal dinner rolls [01:22] not a joke dmc [01:22] if sum1 uses my comp [01:22] and they dont know how to use a dvorak there fucked [01:23] what's that got to do with ink? [01:23] a keyboard doesn't use ink [01:24] the ink they put on keys so you know which one.... [01:24] i usually carve each symbol in 2 [01:24] but some how that wore out before the ink [01:25] Oh [01:25] LOL [01:25] I understand now [01:25] are you sure you do or are you high? [01:26] i wish they where not doing another tron [01:26] Yay for GPLvMIT Wars. haha >.> [01:27] i dont really mind license [01:27] I don't smoke anything [01:28] Navirio, You would if you had to manage the project's. >.< [01:28] yes [01:28] but as it stands now [01:29] i take what i want [01:29] Be happy for that then. Never take the lead of a project. Ever. ;P [01:30] if your the top guy [01:30] its ur decision [01:30] man up and stomp on there pride [01:30] Well Navirio your comment would have made a good joke though. something along the lines of a clueless computer with a broken keyboard. :-) [01:31] not clueless [01:31] just overly used [01:31] clueless computer user that is [01:31] what i had said is i can less about licenses [01:32] * BiosElement sighs [01:32] care* [01:33] I agree Navirio. I steal it anyway. Like Cheri703 does.. OOPs ;-) [01:33] * Cheri703 doesn't steal [01:33] Oh I forgot you "borrow" [01:33] ;-) [01:34] more like wealth redistrobution [01:34] i spelled that horid [01:34] * Cheri703 doesn't distribute [01:34] i do contribute [01:34] but while i every one is arguing over who gets the $ [01:34] i can care less [01:34] who benefits from that [01:35] Navirio: I take it you voted for Obama [01:35] :-) [01:35] i dont vote [01:35] voting seems rigged === slidinghorn is now known as zz_slidinghorn [01:35] i stopped caring after watching ron pauls charade [01:36] well if you don't vote, how can we accomplish distribution of wealth? [01:36] i never said i support that [01:36] im basically saying pirates win [01:37] no one learns or accomplishes any thing when $ is what matters [01:37] I see [01:37] you got a point [01:37] i could be in college right now [01:37] but instead im stuck here day in and day out [01:38] does not stop me from learning the same stuff [01:38] work? [01:38] but with out the paper at the end of the tunnel [01:38] it really wont help me get that all important life matter [01:38] a job [01:39] then ill move from climbing the educationary ladder to climbing the working ladder [01:39] why can't you go back to school? [01:39] in the end ill be 65 and be told to fuck off heres a watch [01:39] lack of $ [01:39] get loans [01:39] I did, my wife did [01:40] i enjoy leaving a 4 yr establishment with a large debt and no work [01:40] hell our government gives all the foreigners everything, I don't see why they can't give to you [01:40] we are training the youth for jobs that are not there [01:40] im actualy fighting that gov as we speak [01:40] they claim i owe them 1740$ for over paid Food stamps [01:41] overpaid???? LMAO [01:41] ya [01:41] they claim they over paid me [01:41] what are you gonna do, pay em back in food stamps? [01:41] LMAO [01:41] im going to piss on there desk [01:41] is the relative plan [01:41] wow man you got issues [01:41] LMAO [01:42] i have quite a large hate for authority and governments who give lazy ppl money [01:42] when i did temp work [01:42] half my check went to taxes since it was daily pay [01:42] wow [01:42] then i come home and ppl my age who cud do the same thing but instead sit on ssi ask me for money [01:43] makes me want to rap my fist in the stub and hit them [01:43] I know how you feel man [01:44] this is a huge let down [01:44] My wife and I work our butts off, but my wife has an aunt who takes advantage of the system like that and we really really despise her [01:44] welcome to my world [01:44] so I know how you feel [01:45] i live in all inclusive apartments [01:45] when i work i work like a slave [01:45] i mean litterally they where 2 steps from wipping us [01:45] but on a unrelated note [01:46] tron soundtrack although by daft punk is a large fail [01:47] it sounds as thought the inception soundtrack took a techno s--t === zz_slidinghorn is now known as slidinghorn [01:48] I don't follow movies that much [01:48] this is a soundtrack [01:50] true, but to know what soundtrack goes to what, you pretty much gotta know what movies are out [01:50] I couldn't tell you what movies are playing [01:50] neither can i [01:50] or coming up for that matter [01:51] well unfortunatly i live with one of those boxes you the ones for stupid ppl [01:51] and 2 ppl who use the shit out of em [01:52] lol dang man your on fire tonight [01:52] well in general when i talk cheri is mean to me so i dont talk much [01:52] other wise im a wealth of philosophical topicsw [01:53] and i made the unfortunate mistake of becoming the local it man [01:53] She's not mean, she just messes around with ya. all in good clean fun [01:53] i regret not pretending to know nothing [01:53] I wish I would have done that too [01:53] but i cannot resist helping sum1 lol [01:53] neither can I [01:54] well im a generally altruistic person [01:54] i taught sum1 how to pirate there own movies [01:54] causing me a loss in major revenue [01:54] shouldn't have been pirating in the first place though [01:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeIjmvZZ_SQ [01:55] I would believe it's called Karma. LOL [01:55] sorta ben my motto for ever [01:56] i believe in karma every thing i do comes back on me [01:56] except in relation to the above topic [01:56] it did [01:57] check this out it is so darn hilarious [01:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54yESyq6Io [01:57] relationship wise every thing has come back on me though [02:01] which reminds me im 21 in 8 days lol [02:02] and the room is dead [02:03] a moment of silence please [02:06] 21? [02:06] wow your young [02:23] * Cheri703 was making dough for dinner rolls [02:41] send me some ;-) [02:41] I can send you the recipe... [02:42] it's reasonably simple [02:43] it might be simple, but come on now, I'm a guy. you know how that is [02:43] husband helped me prep mine [02:43] but I'm deaf, I can't do anything.. LMAO [02:44] I know, I know thats not what my wife said [02:45] she makes me cook, clean, scrub floors, take care of kids [02:45] and all that womany stuff [02:45] ;-) [02:46] no such thing as "womany stuff" when it comes to chores. if you lived alone you'd do those things, why do people assume they fall to the woman as soon as she comes into the picture ?! >.< (I know you're joking, but I've met people who were serious with that crap) [02:47] I know exactly what you mean! to tell you the truth, I am a stay at home dad. I do everything around here [02:48] good for you! [02:48] true, but let me let you in on a little secret [02:49] it's so much freakin harder for a guy to do it because, I not only have to take care of 3 kids, do dishes, laundry, clean and all that, I also have to..... you ready? [02:50] fix the toliet when it's broken, fix that leaky roof, shovel the snow, rake the leaves, trim the trees, fix this and fix that. [02:51] for a guy it's harder, because women don't pick up wrenches or chain saws [02:51] LOL [02:51] oh yeah don't forget "my cars broken" [02:52] gotta fix the car [02:52] change oil [02:52] fix flat tires [02:52] the list goes on and on [02:52] LMAO [02:52] * Cheri703 used to change her own oil, fix her flat tires, shovel snow, do her own yard work, fix things, move furniture, etc. still do sometimes... [02:53] thats good, but no guy wants a women covered in grease... LMAO [02:53] you'd be surprised... [02:53] ewwwwwww [02:53] lol [02:54] big hulky women truck drivers and jack hammer drivers are totally a turn off for me..LMAO [02:54] * Cheri703 is none of those [02:55] I'm more of a business woman type of guy [02:55] lol [02:55] * Cheri703 does enjoy a man in a nice suit or tux [02:56] but also a guy in a white t-shirt and jeans, sweaty from working on something :) [02:56] well thats women [02:57] I just can't fathom sleeping next to a women who's biceps are bigger than mine... lol [02:57] she might strangle me in my sleep [02:57] haha [02:58] women weight lifters are just sick [02:58] they may as well been a man [02:58] well, weight lifters, no problem, body builders = WEIRD/CREEPY/GROSS [02:59] men as well as women [02:59] yeah [03:00] but I know what you mean though about the sexist stuff [03:02] last night my neighbor was over here and my wife said "I'm gonna make a list for you to get the rest of the stuff for thanksgiving dinner tomorrow" and I looked at my neighbor and said "did you get that butler outfit washed for me today" LOL [03:02] heh [03:03] I feel like I'm going through School all over again too! [03:03] I got homework every night [03:03] it's good for you [03:03] I'll brb [03:03] and I take 3rd, 4th and 5th grades at the same time [03:05] welcome back to "david's rant" [03:05] lol [03:05] heh [03:05] had to get into desktop edition [03:05] something wrong? [03:06] just needed to start an applet and une doesn't let you do that easily [03:06] I see. and Ubuntu will be switching over to that in the next release [03:06] pitiful [03:07] well, I'm in 10.04, but yeah, I hate unity [03:07] haven't tried it lately, but...still [03:07] I might move the contents of my www partition and start trying out fedora, mandrake, suse and some others [03:08] because I may make a move if it's bad [03:08] Awesome launchpad fail. >.< "Your password that worked 15 minutes ago is wrong." "Error while changing password" Epic [03:08] I will miss apt dearly, but I guess I'll have to get used to it [03:09] Bios don't get me started [03:09] LOL [03:10] I've already had that problem today, among 50 million trillion things [03:11] Evolution acts like a fool, gedit acts like a fool, mounting acts like a fool. Hmmm I can keep going if you like.. LOL [03:13] I got an 1980 Atari that acts better than this Ubuntu install! [03:14] I thought you said it was doing better after your reinstall? [03:14] It was until I started using it! LOL [03:15] ha [03:15] yeah, that's why I'm still on 10.04 on this thing [03:15] I can't get it to retain my ndiswrapper settings so I have to run the commands each time I reboot [03:15] dmcglone, Yeah I feel like rantin ;) [03:16] I can't get it to mount my shares as user instead of root! [03:16] Well BiosElement you go right ahead, I think you've earned the right [03:16] lol, I won't though. ^_^ It's not 'that' annoying...I don't use launchpad for much. :P [03:17] I know I sure have! After 13 or 14 years of using Linux and giving to the community [03:17] Outta curiosity, anyone happen to have a good example for copyright/project/license headers for files? Looking at working one up for my CubeCreate project [03:18] BiosElement: I use Kdevelop to generate those automatically [03:18] dmcglone, Good move. ^_^ I actually gotta configure...wait a minute...kde? [03:19] I use Kdevelop on Gnome [03:19] haha, wow. That's awesome [03:19] kde and gnome apps are interchangeable [03:19] Yeah I know [03:19] I use a lot of KDE apps on my gnome [03:19] I'm a kde fanboy myself [03:19] Ew. [03:19] My wife switched to kde. She's on her own. :) [03:20] * BiosElement shoves canthus13 back into the loco's dark lonely server room ;) [03:20] I would switch back to KDE, but I just can't get things in order [03:20] Eh, I know what ya mean dmcglone [03:20] * canthus13 unplugs random cables. [03:20] I just generally feel kde = future. ^_^ [03:20] BiosElement: I agree [03:20] * canthus13 would switch to KDE, but it's kinda frankenstein-ish, feels all bolted together from spare partes. [03:20] err. parts. [03:20] * BiosElement has canthus13 arrested for hacking...since come on...bypassing captcha is hacking so that must apply to cables... [03:21] More of KDE's apps work. Unlike Gnome's [03:21] BiosElement: i feel xfce = future ;) [03:21] canthus13, That depends on the distro. 150% on the distro [03:21] canthus13, Kubuntu used to be kinda buggy, now it's nearly solid. fedora has a great kde setup though. [03:21] BiosElement: I also hate the defaults and can't be bothered to change them. single-click crap is annoying. [03:21] canthus13, Then I hope you like the hard-coded gnome defaults :) [03:22] BiosElement: I just told Cheri703 that I was thinking about checking out fedora and some others [03:22] BiosElement: Nah. If crunchbang gets their act together, I'm switching full-time. [03:22] dmcglone, I used fedora for about 6 months. It's more "linuxy" for lack of a better word. That's both good/bad. [03:23] I used fedora for a while before coming to Ubuntu. I'm just so afraid to move back to an RPM based distro [03:23] Either way, I don't like the way Ubuntu or GNOME are headed... [03:23] dmcglone: Smart man. [03:23] * canthus13 doesn't fear rpm so much as loathe it, though. [03:23] I loved Red Hat though [03:23] Heh, rpm really isn't that bad. >.< [03:24] BiosElement: how long you been using linux? [03:24] I mean dude, I agree with you on KDE, but dude RPM??? [03:24] dmcglone, 3 years, and I'm thankfully too young to have hit rpmhell. :P [03:24] BiosElement: I haven't really used anything rpm-based in nearly 10 years, other than playing with fedora in a VM... and yum sucks. [03:24] yum has issues, but then so does apt-get frankly [03:25] I started using Linux with RH 6.1 [03:25] I have seen it ALL!!! [03:25] I mean ALL!!! LOL [03:25] RPM??? hell no! [03:25] haha [03:26] I'll switch to debian first [03:26] dmcglone, Scary thought [03:26] hell it's better than RPM [03:26] LMAO [03:26] BiosElement: why is debian so scary? [03:26] I'll try debian again once they get a website that wasn't made in 1991 thanks. [03:27] gilbert, I've tried it before, wasn't impressed. [03:27] 1991 is still better and RPM... LOL [03:27] BiosElement: what was unimpressive? [03:28] gilbert from what I've heard debian is harder to install [03:28] BiosElement: you realize that you're running debian right now (that is if you're running ubuntu of course) [03:28] gilbert, In general it just didn't feel as tight, though I admit I've a strong bias coming from ubuntu which adds an extra layer of polish to everything debian does. [03:28] dmcglone, +100 on that, it is a good deal harder. [03:28] gilbert Ubuntu is a variant of debian [03:28] debian doesn't have many of the luxuries that Ubuntu has [03:29] dmcglone: type "cat /etc/debian_version" [03:29] gilbert have you ever run debian? [03:29] dmcglone: the installer is just "enter" about 10 times [03:29] dmcglone: but yes, there is a lot of reading [03:29] and who wants to do that? [03:30] I'm here to use my computer not become a computer scientist [03:30] LOL [03:30] but if I ever had to go back to RPM, I'd absolutely go to Fedora [03:31] Mandrake is for pansies and SuSE is for queers [03:31] lol [03:31] dmcglone: there's no programming involved in the debian installation ;) [03:32] not to mention SuSE is getting a little too close for comfort with M$ for my liking [03:32] dmcglone: so y r u abandoning ubuntu? [03:33] I didn't say I was [03:33] I said "if it comes to that" [03:33] Bah. [03:33] before I abandon Ubuntu, I'll abandon Gnome [03:33] Debian is easy to install. [03:34] It's a pain in the butt to get it all configured to your liking, though. [03:34] I wouldn't know as of yet, I've never had the notion to try it. Matter of fact if I had the option between Debian and Slack, I'd choose Slack [03:35] dmcglone: Slack is a huge pain in the butt. [03:35] couldn't be no worse than Debian [03:35] Way worse. [03:35] dmcglone: it is [03:36] Slackware has no real package management. [03:36] dmcglone: slack can hardly be called a distro. it doesn't even have a package manager [03:36] then I'll choose Debian [03:36] lol [03:36] I'm used to not having package managers [03:36] really? [03:36] gilbert: It's called 'Windows'. [03:36] I went years without one [03:36] Cheri703: ah [03:36] Don't think so [03:36] No package managemenat at all. [03:37] canthus13: ah [03:37] RH 6.1 had nothing [03:37] back in the day, getting a network card working was a 5 day process [03:38] dmcglone: Heh. I started with Caldera 2.3... I compiled my AWE64 drivers from a scrap of C code posted to a newsgroup. [03:38] dmcglone: if you've dealt with that, you should have no problem with debian [03:39] Anyone ever used Debian/Ubuntu on Mac/PPC? [03:39] true gilbert but I'm tired of having to deal with that :-( [03:40] dmcglone: my point is that you won't encounter that level of work in debian [03:40] I see [03:41] I've never run debian or slack, so I'll take your word on that [03:42] * canthus13 cuddles his debian servers. All three of them. [03:43] ...my wife just said 'awesomesauce'. [03:43] I think I used RH for a couple releases, then I had a year or two with mandrake, then from there I went to SuSE then I can't remember what I switched to Ubuntu from [03:43] o.0 [03:43] I may have come from Fedora [03:44] it's been a loooooooooonnnnnggggg time [03:44] dmcglone: you could always try it out in a vm before burning it to bare metal [03:45] thats true, I never thought about that [03:45] virtualbox is quite nice [03:46] yeah, I've used it to run windows to play command and conquer [03:47] makes more sense than running linux in a VM on windows... [03:48] all this talk has made me want to download fedora and check it out [03:48] why not. if you throw it in a vm, there's no worries about breaking anything [03:48] true [03:49] the thing is, fedora also uses gnome. [03:49] hi all. speaking of VMs. do you guys use virtualbox? [03:49] Stupid vbox won't pass the correct screen dimensions to the framebuffer. :( [03:49] yes. [03:49] not at the moment gilch [03:49] i am looking for an alternative [03:50] gilch have you tried Windows 7? LOL [03:50] ..? [03:50] as an alternative to virtualbox? [03:50] oops [03:50] gilbert: there's VMware. [03:50] I meant VMware [03:51] yeah thats it canthus13 [03:51] Hmm.. Windows 7, VMware.. they're spelled so similarly. :) [03:51] i'd rather use vbox than vmare [03:51] No I was thinking windows because for a long time, vmware was only for winblows [03:52] dmcglone: is gnome shell the problem? ubuntu is moving to unity anyway [03:52] Yeah I know and that move is what scares me === Unit1931 is now known as Unit193 [03:53] even Cheri703 was ranting a little about it earlier [03:53] dmcglone: well fedora is sticking with gnome defaults (from what i can tell), so it will be different [03:53] hmm? [03:53] * Cheri703 was playing I can't believe it's not tetris [03:53] quadrapassel or whatever [03:54] I was ranting about what? [03:54] Unity [03:54] on your netbook [03:54] ah, yeah [03:55] 10.10 has been a bust pretty much across the board for me [03:55] we were talking about how Ubuntu is switching to Unity [03:55] dmcglone: you might find xfce interesting. it's pretty much like the current gnome and isn't getting any of the unnecessary makeovers [03:56] gilbert: do current gnome programs work on it? that's my main concern if I were to switch to a different flavor of ubuntu [03:56] It's the little bugs in the apps that are pi**in me off [03:58] dmcglone: any regular app will work just fine. the panel applets are different tho, and you won't find the gnome social center (or whatever its called) as a panel option [03:58]