[00:32] <mandel> nhaines, ping
[08:25] <mahen> hi !
[08:35] <mahen> hi rye
[08:35] <rye> mahen, hi!
[10:47] <diverse_izzue> verterok, are you awake? :-)
[10:55] <diverse_izzue> apparently not :-) honk!
[10:55] <rye> diverse_izzue, hi
[10:56] <diverse_izzue> hi rye! i'm sorry, but i'm back :-/
[10:56] <rye> diverse_izzue, i will need some bits of context :)
[10:56] <diverse_izzue> i had an issue we looked at with facundobatista and verterok yesterday
[10:56] <diverse_izzue> they are american time zone?
[10:57] <rye> diverse_izzue, yup
[10:58] <diverse_izzue> rye, if i update you, can we look at it?
[10:58] <rye> diverse_izzue, yes, however i need to do some bank-related stuff during next 30 minutes so i will be away
[10:59] <diverse_izzue> rye, then do that first. i have stuff to work on as well. when are the south american usually showing up?
[11:01] <rye> diverse_izzue, facundo should be here in 2 hours
[11:02] <diverse_izzue> rye, then i best wait for him, will be most time saving for all of us i think
[12:03] <psypher246> hi all
[12:05] <psypher246> honk\
[12:05] <psypher246> honk
[12:05] <facundobatista> Hola psypher246
[12:05] <psypher246> facundobatista: hello! if i log a bug and mark it as privtae do i actually have to come here and let someone know b4 it's gets picked up?
[12:06] <facundobatista> psypher246, don't know exactly how private bugs work
[12:06] <facundobatista> psypher246, I guess the project team could see people's private bugs, otherwise they would be useless
[12:07] <psypher246> thats what i thought
[12:07] <psypher246> cos i;ve had no response for over a week on a stability bug for the latest u1
[12:07] <psypher246> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/673368
[12:07] <ubot4`> psypher246: Error: Bug #673368 is private.
[12:08] <facundobatista> je
[12:13] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[12:18] <duanedesign> psypher246: yeah that is kninda the trafe off with private bugs. Not as many people can see the bug so you have less people who can triage it.
[12:18] <duanedesign> trade off*
[12:19] <psypher246> duanedesign: so I have to let you guys know if i makeit private?
[12:22] <duanedesign> psypher246: ideally you should not have to. But if it is an issue that is preventing you form using the software/service definetly you can come here to get more immediate help.
[12:24] <facundobatista> psypher246, your problem is ubuntuone stability or at-login startup?
[12:25] <psypher246> ok, well it's not stopping me completely, it just deosnt;/ run as stable as it was before i installed the latest version via PPA, doesn't co9nnect automatically onstartup sometimes or requires a reboot to get connected
[12:32] <facundobatista> psypher246, we should talk about that stability issue, startup connection depends of your configuration, and you should never reboot to get it connected; however, they are *three different* issues, and we should separate them
[12:33] <psypher246> facundobatista: ok
[12:33] <psypher246> the startup thing worked fine before the upgrade
[12:34] <psypher246> but traffic shaping was not working so i had to upgrade to fix it
[12:41] <facundobatista> psypher246, ok
[12:53] <facundobatista> psypher246, so, you don't have any current problem? the bug can be closed?
[12:53] <psypher246> no currently those are my problems
[12:53] <psypher246> since upgrading, shaping workes, but it broke auto startup and made it unstable
[12:56] <facundobatista> psypher246, ok, let's talk about auto startup
[12:56] <psypher246> ok
[12:56] <facundobatista> psypher246, you login to your computer, syncdaemon starts and doesn't connect, or does not start at all?
[13:00] <psypher246> I think syncdaemon starts, but when you look at the client it either says connecting or service not started (or solmething like that)
[13:01] <alecu> hi all
[13:01] <psypher246> then i have to click connect, and then it starts sycning or going through metadata
[13:04] <larsemil> whats the status on the android storage app?
[13:13] <facundobatista> psypher246, ok, we should know more specifically if it says connecting or what, for further debugging; how are you looking at the client?
[13:13] <psypher246> i am using the indicator applet mostly
[13:15] <psypher246> the logs i posted is before i click conect
[13:21] <mandel> Chipaca, vds do we have an standup 2day?
[13:22] <duanedesign> larsemil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndroidU1
[13:23] <duanedesign> karni: 6^
[13:25] <larsemil> duanedesign: whoa! thanks!
[13:25] <facundobatista> psypher246, all the logs I checked in your bug end with "Not User With Network", which means that you still didn't tell the client to connect
[13:26] <psypher246> so what makes the client sometimes connect on it's own but mostly not?
[13:27] <larsemil> duanedesign: alltough maintenance so i cant check it out. :D
[13:27] <alecu> mandel, I think we do, 30 minutes from now.
[13:28] <facundobatista> psypher246, is it connecting automatically at some point? it should never connect automatically IIRC
[13:28] <Chipaca> mandel: yes, of course
[13:28] <psypher246> it used to start up automatically no problem
[13:28] <facundobatista> psypher246, in the bug you say "never connected"
[13:28] <psypher246> and no, it doesn't connect at all, i can leave it all day and it womn't connect
[13:29] <mandel> alecu, Chipaca, I was just wondering since I did not know hoe many were on holidays
[13:29] <Chipaca> facundobatista: it should start and connect automatically unless it's not selected in starup applications
[13:29] <facundobatista> Chipaca, so, if it starts automatically, it should connect automatically?
[13:29] <psypher246> yes and sometimes no matrer how many tiems you say connect or disconnect and reconnect, or restart or kill all the processes and start up again, it just won't connect, then i reboot and it connects by itself on starup
[13:29] <Chipaca> facundobatista: yes. there is a bug that got fixed :)
[13:29] <Chipaca> facundobatista: about it not connecting when started automatically
[13:30] <psypher246> when was that fixed?
[13:30] <Chipaca> psypher246: how many files do you have?
[13:30] <facundobatista> Chipaca, do you have the bug number?
[13:30] <Chipaca> rye: what's the bug number of your famous "oops i committed this fix without an actual review"? :)
[13:32] <rye> Chipaca, bug #651237 - I have it in my "Hall of fame"
[13:32] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 651237 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "ubuntuone-launch fails to start syncdaemon if dbus call times out (affects: 3) (heat: 70)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651237
[13:33] <Chipaca> psypher246: facundobatista: rolled out in 1.4.5-0ubuntu1
[13:35] <Chipaca> psypher246: nevertheless, syncdaemon should *eventually* accept your connect request. Are you willing to help us debug this?
[13:35] <psypher246> yeah sure
[13:36] <facundobatista> psypher246, so, you have the client in that "not connected state"?
[13:36] <psypher246> today was one of those days where it connected it self and started going thorugh metadata
[13:36] <psypher246> i would hav e to reboot to see
[13:36] <facundobatista> psypher246, you can just disconnect it
[13:36] <psypher246> yeah but mostly then it works, but i will try
[13:36] <facundobatista> psypher246, in your bug, any of the attached logs was not connected, and you told it to connect?
[13:37] <Chipaca> rye: how do you dump the cache? something about a 3 into some proc file somewhere :)
[13:37] <psypher246> yeah after i8 pulled the logs, cos then it works, wanted to showe the state before have gin to manually connect
[13:37] <rye> Chipaca, sudo sysctl vm.drop_caches=3
[13:37] <Chipaca> psypher246: after you quit syncdaemon, purge the disk cache like that ^
[13:38] <Chipaca> psypher246: that should increase your chances of repeating post-reboot behavior
[13:38] <psypher246> ok currently, it's the the disconnected state cos it's still running through several thousand files
[13:38] <psypher246> so whats the best way to stop it now?
[13:39] <facundobatista> psypher246, to fully stop it? u1sdtool -q
[13:39] <psypher246> done
[13:40] <psypher246> indicator applet says service not running
[13:40] <psypher246> cleared cache
[13:40] <psypher246> should i connect now?
[13:41] <facundobatista> psypher246, you should start the client first
[13:41] <psypher246> started
[13:42] <facundobatista> psypher246, what answers u1sdtool -s
[13:42] <facundobatista> ?
[13:44] <psypher246> u1sdtool -s
[13:44] <psypher246> Oops, an error ocurred:
[13:44] <psypher246> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:44] <psypher246> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon timed out
[13:44] <Chipaca> psypher246: yeah, that's the source of many headaches
[13:44] <Chipaca> psypher246: but it's not as bad as it sounds; it's merely that syncdaemon is busy during startup and can't get to answer dbus in time
[13:45] <Chipaca> psypher246: wait a while and try again, and at some point it should start answering (unless file sync has been disabled)
[13:45] <psypher246> no it's enabled
[13:46] <facundobatista> Chipaca, I filed a bug about giving a better message there
[13:49] <psypher246> u1sdtool -s
[13:49] <psypher246> State: READY
[13:49] <psypher246>     connection: Not User With Network
[13:49] <psypher246>     description: ready to connect
[13:49] <psypher246>     is_connected: False
[13:49] <psypher246>     is_error: False
[13:50] <psypher246>     is_online: False
[13:50] <psypher246>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[13:50] <psypher246> goign through metadata now
[13:50] <facundobatista> psypher246, there, "Not User" means that you didn't tell to connect
[13:50] <facundobatista> psypher246, actually is in "READY", so it's not doing anything
[13:50] <facundobatista> psypher246, it's ready to connect and go wild moving little funny bits all around
[13:51] <facundobatista> psypher246, so, do "u1sdtool -c"
[13:51] <facundobatista> (it will tell it to connect)
[13:53] <psypher246> u1sdtool -s
[13:53] <psypher246> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[13:53] <psypher246>     connection: With User With Network
[13:53] <psypher246>     description: processing queues
[13:53] <psypher246>     is_connected: True
[13:53] <psypher246>     is_error: False
[13:53] <psypher246>     is_online: True
[13:53] <psypher246>     queues: WORKING_ON_CONTENT
[14:01] <facundobatista> psypher246, perfect, all fine, then
[14:02] <psypher246> best i can do is when it happens again to come diredctly here
[14:02] <facundobatista> psypher246, everything works correctly, or you find something strange?
[14:02] <psypher246> no it all works, like i said it's not allthe time
[14:02] <psypher246> thats whats strange
[14:02] <facundobatista> psypher246, you will be welcomed! what should we do with the bug?
[14:02] <psypher246> pls keep open
[14:02] <psypher246> this issue is intermittent
[14:03] <mandel> Chipaca, vds alecu, stand up?
[14:03] <Chipaca> heh, shortest standup ever
[14:03] <Chipaca> me
[14:04] <facundobatista> psypher246, ok, marked it as incomplete, waiting for further input
[14:04] <alecu> me
[14:04] <vds> me
[14:05] <mandel> me
[14:05] <mandel> Chipaca, go
[14:05] <psypher246> ok thanks
[14:05] <Chipaca> skip me, still writing the status
[14:05] <alecu> DONE: more discussion on how to map SyncDaemon events to ZG, bug #676090, working on a branch for this bug
[14:05] <alecu> TODO: add suggestions to the spec, work on the branch
[14:05] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:05]  * alecu checks if the turkey is ready. vds, you're next.
[14:05] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 676090 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Define the U1 Zeigeist ontology types for all events (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676090
[14:05] <vds> DONE: finished a branch to get rid of our implementation of commit and use the python-couchdb one, discussed and started a branch to fix #670700
[14:05] <vds> TODO: again land the branch for #675551
[14:05] <vds> BLOCKED: not at all
[14:05] <vds> mandel: please
[14:06] <mandel> DONE: remerge trunk for xdg move to platform. Implemented keyring for windows.
[14:06] <mandel> TODO: Implement xdg on windows, implement find_port windows.
[14:06] <mandel> BLOCKED: No, but I do not agree on W0511 from pylint blocking branches to land, TODO comments are not something that should block code.
[14:06]  * mandel looks at Chipaca
[14:07] <alecu> mandel, -1 on comments blocking landing
[14:08] <Chipaca> DONE: so many things! off the top of my head: final talks re the replacement for Chipaca², talked with Chris Coulson re spidermonkey, some panic around msi signing, tried to build erlang packages (and failed), ... and i'm sure i'm missing stuff
[14:09] <Chipaca> TODO: figure out what I'm missing to get my erlang packages building right. Continue talking with Chris re spidermonkey. Get word out re the CouchDB SRU intentions. Talk with people who won't be Chipaca². Worry about the MSI not getting signed. More stuff I'm sure.
[14:09] <Chipaca> BLOCKED: no
[14:10] <mandel> Chipaca, we have not heard about elmo, have we?
[14:10] <Chipaca> mandel: correct
[14:13] <mandel> Chipaca, you get elmo or I do
[14:13] <mandel> ??
[14:13] <Chipaca> mandel: depending on what you mean by "get"
[14:13] <Chipaca> mandel: that might not be possible
[14:14] <mandel> Chipaca, as in try to talk with him, cristian said he is i the office... well that there is a rumor of him being there
[14:28] <duanedesign> rye: ping?
[14:28] <rye> duanedesign, pong
[14:28] <duanedesign> rye: hello
[14:29] <duanedesign> rye: i am getting DBus.Error all the time. I even get it using u1sdtool --start
[14:29] <rye> duanedesign, which Error?
[14:29] <duanedesign> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[14:30] <duanedesign> log gets stuck at
[14:30] <duanedesign> 2010-11-25 08:01:45,588 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.fsm - INFO - loading updated metadata
[14:33] <duanedesign> ubuntuone-client -  1.5.0-0ubuntu1
[14:36] <rye> duanedesign, is ubuntuone-syncdaemon running?
[14:43] <duanedesign> rye: yes
[14:44] <rye> duanedesign, hm, is it trashing the hdd?
[14:45] <duanedesign> rye:  no
[14:45] <rye> duanedesign, we have some issues with death-on-startup during metadata loading phase, i am wondering whether this is something like this
[14:45] <duanedesign> rye: sounds about right
[14:47] <rye> duanedesign, ok, so after you start ubuntuone-syncdaemon via u1sdtool it dies, and no process is left running, right?
[14:48] <duanedesign> rye: hmm, no it is there
[14:49] <duanedesign> rye: ok. it seems to hve springed to life :)
[14:49] <rye> :(
[14:50] <duanedesign> i was just noticing it was not auto-connecting at startup...Ill keep an eye on it
[14:57] <duanedesign> i am off to engage in thanksgiving festivities. o/
[16:12] <karni> larsemil: i'm working on a brand new version of AU1, just so you know.
[16:12] <karni> duanedesign: thanks for the heads up
[16:25] <rye> karni, i can run AndroidU1 now :), me is really happy :)
[16:26] <karni> rye: oh, you mean you got an android phone ^ ^?
[16:26] <rye> karni, yes, i can't live with Symbian anymore
[16:27] <karni> rye: that's so awesome. i'm coding some more goodies for AU1
[16:28] <rye> karni, will get the sources and look what's where, since it is so awesome soon.
[16:28] <karni> rye: I told aq and beuno that I now have so much to change (better UI, new backend with generations) that I'm basically writing that from scratch.
[16:29] <karni> rye: but you are welcome to go for it :) it's (yet unofficially) lp:~ubuntuone-android-files
[16:30] <karni> that branch has a neat setup script and ant build setup easy to use, thank's to CardinalFang
[16:59] <gourgi> guys i have a problem debugging evolution. i'm using maverick and i accidentally removed the default Ubuntuone adddressbook. i created another and now i'm getting "Unable to open address book" .
[16:59] <gourgi> the real problem is that from the debugging procedure i have to run '/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-2.xx' ... but there us no such directory in 10.10. i'm confused so i honk !
[16:59] <gourgi> $ ls /usr/lib/evolution
[16:59] <gourgi> 2.28  2.30  camel-index-control-1.2  camel-lock-helper-1.2  e-addressbook-factory  e-calendar-factory
[16:59] <rye> gourgi, hi, yes, the e-d-s was removed, now it is /usr/lib/evolution/e-addressbook-factory
[17:00] <rye> gourgi, thanks for noticing it - will need to update the wiki
[17:00] <gourgi> rye thanks:) update the freedesktop wiki too :)
[17:01] <rye> gourgi, you may also want to look at ~/.cache/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.log.1 to see whether couchdb is being contacted at all
[17:03] <gourgi> rye: thanks for the tip, it is contacted since 5 hours ago. something is definetely wrong here :|
[17:04] <lalejand> Hi, does someone understand this error http://pastebin.com/3UHkW0SS ?
[17:04] <gourgi> *it is not contacted*
[17:04] <lalejand> it's in ~/.cache/desktop-couch/log/desktop-couch-replication.log
[17:04] <lalejand> it's about contact syncing
[17:05] <rye> lalejand, what version of desktopcouch are you running ?
[17:05] <lalejand> where can I see thata ?
[17:05] <lalejand> that
[17:05] <lalejand> rye : where can I see that ?
[17:06] <rye> lalejand, apt-cache policy desktopcouch
[17:06] <lalejand> rye : 0.6.9b-0ubuntu1
[17:07] <rye> lalejand, okay, this is weird. CardinalFang have you seen something like http://pastebin.com/3UHkW0SS  ?
[17:08]  * rye is in nautilus plugin debugging mode so is a bit single-threaded.
[17:16] <larsemil> karni: cool. from what i saw it looked fine. allthough i missed the "synced" folderrs
[18:00] <gourgi> is it possible to access the couchdb database through ".local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html" but not from "dbus-send --session --dest=org.desktopcouch.CouchDB --print-reply --type=method_call / org.desktopcouch.CouchDB.getPort"   ???  please take a look at my debug http://pastebin.ca/2002167 honk!
[18:01] <gourgi> i mean, i can see my futon contacts database from firefox! but evolution doesn't :(
[18:01] <rye> CardinalFang, ping ^
[18:03] <karni> larsemil: yup. that'll be in the new app :)
[18:05] <larsemil> karni: cool!
[18:06] <alecu> rye, CardinalFang must be away for Thanksgiving day.
[18:18] <rye> gourgi, could you please tell the result of dpkg -S /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/desktopcouch/application/platform/linux/__init__.py ?
[19:06] <vitall> good evening
[19:06] <vitall> i have a problem with my ubuntu one
[19:07] <vitall> i'm not able to add my computer,
[19:07] <vitall> ubuntu 10.04
[19:07] <vitall> even the laptop, ubuntu 10.10
[19:07] <vitall> can someone help me ?
[19:07] <karni> vitall: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Setup :)
[19:07] <karni> vitall: it's very helpful
[19:09] <vitall> the problem was i entered on the page n unregistered the computers
[19:09] <vitall> so now i could not add again
[19:09] <karni> vitall: what did you enter on the page?
[19:09] <karni> vitall: you removed a computer in webUI?
[19:09] <vitall> i read this tuto but i founded nothing
[19:09] <vitall> yes
[19:10] <karni> vitall: ok then. try Alt+F2 type: seahorse <Enter>
[19:10] <karni> vitall: and find "Ubuntu One token" -- if its there
[19:10] <vitall> right
[19:10] <vitall> yes here
[19:11] <vitall> delete it ?
[19:12] <karni> verterok: yes, remove
[19:12] <vitall> ok removed
[19:12] <karni> verterok: ops, sorry
[19:12] <karni> verterok: will get to you in a sec ;D
[19:12] <vitall> lol
[19:12] <vitall> now just sign again
[19:12] <karni> vitall: in the Terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal) killall ubuntu-sso-login
[19:13] <karni> vitall: no, do that ^
[19:13] <vitall> ok
[19:13] <vitall> i got process not found
[19:13] <karni> vitall: fine. now do: u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool -c
[19:14] <karni> (paste it and <enter>)
[19:14] <karni> vitall: tell me if you see a dialog pop up
[19:14] <vitall> ok
[19:15] <karni> vitall: how's that?
[19:15] <vitall> lol
[19:15] <karni> vitall: lol what :P?
[19:15] <vitall> ok now is redirecting to the site
[19:15] <vitall> sory
[19:15] <karni> vitall: so it was on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Setup ;)
[19:16] <vitall> now is rieh
[19:16] <karni> vitall: I'm glad I could help
[19:16] <karni> vitall: keep on rocking with U1
[19:16] <vitall> thanks a lot
[19:16] <karni> you are welcome
[20:08] <nhaines> cparrino: greetings.  :)
[20:08] <cparrino> nhaines - hello hello
[22:43] <bobby_> need help i delete the panel one the bottom how do i get it back? when i minize stuff i don't know where it goes....
[22:46] <karni> bobby_: please ask that at #ubuntu (I'd help, but I'm really busy and it's nearly midnight)
[23:00] <karni> beuno: ping
[23:06] <karni> verterok: seeing action_queue have ~2400 lines of code and implemenation of action/command probably another few hundread, I might stick to loose deferreds as in AndroidU1, and deferr implementation of queues for January
[23:06] <karni> verterok: have a nice afternoon
[23:07] <karni> beuno: I'll catch you next time.
[23:11]  * karni is away