[03:03] <spaz> I was told to come here with a question regarding a "fixed" bug
[03:05] <rusivi> Quick comment on bug 572970 complaint was made in #ubuntu regarding why toggled Fix Released status when Lucid had no GPM updates. It was inferred that based on how Maverick/Natty have updated versions of GPM, that is why, but due to lack of comments looking for clarity.
[03:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 572970 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Battery indicator stuck on fully charged (affects: 2) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572970
[03:07] <spaz> That's the question!
[03:29] <charlie-tca> rusivi, I think it was another change by someone not knowing what they were doing. There should be a changelog when bugs are marked fixed, or at least a comment about what fixed it.
[03:30] <charlie-tca> The reporter changed it, and should have left it in "new" status
[03:31] <charlie-tca> It is now back to "new". We need someone to confirm it now.
[03:32] <rusivi> charlie-tca: Thanks for addressing the bug!
[03:34] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[03:50] <micahg> charlie-tca: rusivi, wait, the reporter was the one who marked it fix released, what's the issue?
[03:51] <rusivi> micahg: spaz had noted that it was an issue for him/her
[03:51] <micahg> rusivi: so, that user should file a new bug
[03:52] <rusivi> I would have told spaz that if the package had changed in Lucid but it had not been changed.
[03:53] <rusivi> spaz mentioned he encountered the same problem in UNE 10.04
[03:53] <micahg> rusivi: g-p-m has been updated each release
[03:54] <rusivi> micahg: I figured that the "Fix Released" was due to either reporter mistake or reporter updated to Maverick/Natty, either way not Fixed Released.
[03:55] <micahg> rusivi: fix released is if it's fixed in teh devel release, not all releases
[03:55] <rusivi> Ah, I thought Fix Released meant fixed in the release it was bugged against, my mistake.
[03:56] <micahg> rusivi: if it's SRU worthy, then it can be nominated for a previous release
[03:57] <rusivi> Based on the low people affected, not a security issue, and low heat, seems not SRU worthy atm...
[03:58] <rusivi> It does not affect me btw, just was trying to bring spaz to the right people in order for him to discuss it.
[12:43] <charlie-tca> micahg, that reporter on the bug did not give any comments. He added attachments to the bug and marked it fixed the same time he filed it
[13:10] <oier> could someone please set status and importance for bug #643895 ?
[13:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 643895 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia propietary driver fails to load X with geforce 310M (affects: 5) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643895
[13:10] <oier> many thanks
[13:20] <yofel_> that bugs a bit of a mess, the real issue is that nvidia 260 doesn't support the 310M chipset http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.04-driver.html which someone later reported in bug 658657
[13:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 658657 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia 310M GPUs no longer supported. (affects: 2) (heat: 83)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/658657
[13:27] <oier> well the 260 does support the 310m card in theory
[13:28] <oier> if you search for the driver you get this link
[13:28] <oier> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-260.19.21-driver.html
[13:28] <oier> and there it is listed as supported
[13:29] <oier> by the way the bug you mention (658657) is marked as duplicated of the one I am asking to check (643895)
[13:29] <yofel> hm, right, be we don't have .21 in the official repository, only .06
[13:29] <yofel> oier: yes, I just duplicated that
[13:30] <oier> but can't you set status and importance of that bug?
[13:32] <oier> BTW  .21 is avaliable in the X SWAT PPA https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[13:33] <oier> yofel are you still there?
[13:34] <yofel> I'll mark it high since it makes X fail to start, but I'll only set it to conrimed since I don't know what the exact triaging guidelines of the X team are.
[13:34] <yofel> oier: I know 21 is there, I'll put a note on the bug about that
[13:36] <oier> all right, many thanks
[13:36] <oier> !
[13:42] <vish> oier: hi, just noticed your mail..
[13:43] <vish> oier: #ubuntu-x is a good place to ask about that bug
[13:44] <oier> ok, many thanks everybody! I hope we can fix it soon
[14:05] <oier> is #657634 a duplicate of #643895?
[14:07] <seb128> bdmurray, pedro_: hi
[14:07] <seb128> if I gave you a list of bug numbers do you have some scripts to untag those with a comment easily?
[14:08] <seb128> give
[14:36] <seb128> does anybody know how to use launchpadlib to delete tags?
[14:37] <paultag> seb128: yeah, you can get the tag list as a whitespace delimted string
[14:37] <paultag> seb128: remove the tag you don't want, and set the tag again
[14:37] <seb128> I've tried     	bug.tags.remove('need-amd64-retrace')
[14:37] <seb128> with     bug.lp_save() next to it to be sure
[14:37] <seb128> but the bug is not editing
[14:37] <seb128> edited
[14:38] <pedro_> seb128, i've something for you, one sec
[14:38] <pedro_> seb128, do you want to remove a tag and then add a comment to that bug, right?
[14:38] <seb128> pedro_, yes
[14:39] <pedro_> seb128, ok , give me a minute to add the comment part
[14:39] <pedro_> i was testing the delete tag part
[14:39] <seb128> pedro_, see #ubuntu-desktop
[15:31] <cprofitt> bdmurray: ping
[15:32] <cprofitt> curious if you can guide me on what to do when an issue is solved in the most recent release, but not in the LTS?
[15:36] <charlie-tca> cprofitt, probably needs a SRU - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Fixed%20in%20Development%20release%20while%20still%20existing%20in%20a%20previous%20release
[15:36] <cprofitt> thanks charlie-tca
[15:36] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[15:37] <cprofitt> this is the bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/653678
[15:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 653678 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "geometry preferences not applied (affects: 2) (heat: 67)" [Low,Fix released]
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Bugs are handled pretty the same way, regardless of LTS/non-LTS
[15:38] <cprofitt> so in the case of this bug -- its minor
[15:39] <cprofitt> just leave as fix released or make it an SRU?
[15:39] <cprofitt> from my reading I would say fix released
[15:40] <charlie-tca> If it is minor, then, yes, fix-released. If it is needed to make terminal work, SRU.
[15:40] <charlie-tca> minor anoyances won't get approved
[15:42] <cprofitt> cool... it is good where it is
[15:42] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[15:43] <cprofitt> charlie-tca: for the win again.
[15:43] <cprofitt> thanks for helping me grow my knowledge
[15:43] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[15:43] <cprofitt> I remembered reading about it, but could not find the doc while lookings
[15:44] <charlie-tca> It is great that people care enough to ask
[15:44]  * cprofitt smiles
[15:44] <cprofitt> you know me
[15:49] <yofel> cprofitt: add this to your bookmarks too since we're already talking about it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[15:50] <yofel> hm, the response has that link too..
[15:51] <cprofitt> yeah
[15:52] <yofel> happens if you're doing something else an don't read the whole discussion :P
[15:58] <cprofitt> hey jcastro
[15:58] <cprofitt> hope your T-day was a good one
[15:58] <cprofitt> yofel: lol
[15:58] <cprofitt> its ok -- always willing to accept help...
[15:58] <jcastro> hi cprofitt
[15:58] <cprofitt> its far better to try to help than to remain quiet
[15:59] <cprofitt> how is the fam jcastro
[15:59] <jcastro> good, other than my internet getting hopeless today
[15:59] <jcastro> so if I disconnect ...
[15:59] <cprofitt> ah... I strongly dislike when that happens
[16:00] <cprofitt> luckily its been a while
[16:00]  * cprofitt runs to knock on wood
[16:00]  * cprofitt comes back
[16:00] <cprofitt> lol
[16:56] <jibel> mvo, Hi, about bug 681454 I think that's the same than bug 677442.
[16:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 681454 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager segfaults after upgrading a package (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681454
[16:56] <ubot2> jibel: Bug 677442 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/677442 is private
[16:59] <jibel> mvo, and also same trace than 677510 and 681264
[17:09] <mvo> thanks jibel
[17:18] <jcastro> pedro_: how's it going so far?
[18:26] <xelister> why we are left with no usable vector editor in ubuntu
[18:26] <xelister> inkscape works horrible, crashes each few minutes, and has GUI drawing glitches
[18:27] <micahg> xelister: why do you ask questions like this?
[18:27] <micahg> xelister: if there are bugs, please file them, if there's a newer version that works better, request an update or backport
[18:28]  * micahg doesn't think there's an Ubuntu conspiracy to provide poor vector editing
[18:30] <xelister> micahg: ok I ment: look, what the f- even simple vector editing is not working on ubuntu.. something needs to be done
[18:32] <micahg> xelister: ok, the way we do something is to file bugs and/or patches
[18:35] <micahg> xelister: it's in Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu, so it's high profile, but idk who actually if anyone works on it
[19:35] <evfool> hi all
[19:37] <yofel> hi evfool
[19:38] <evfool> i need some help
[19:38] <evfool> does anybody know what library is responsible for setting file associations?
[19:42] <cedric> that's a freedesktop standard
[19:43] <cedric> so it depend what is your issue
[20:36] <jfi> Hi, I wanted to do some test on 11.04 with virtualbox but the performance is .... terrible (slow), did somebody experiment such issue? I did not find a related-bugs
[20:38] <micahg> jfi: you might want to try in #ubuntu-testing or #ubuntu+1
[20:39] <jfi> ooops, right, sorry for the noise
[20:40] <charlie-tca> jfi, 11.04 requires compiz, to work best. VBox does not allow 3d, so will not be very good with it.
[20:41] <micahg> charlie-tca: the non-OSE version has experimental 3D support
[20:41] <charlie-tca> It does? I think I reports that it is still going to be less than good
[20:42] <jfi> I am using the ose version, I have read that natty is planned to use by default compiz/unity but I thought that metacity will still work correctly
[20:42] <jfi> actually, that's terrible, I have the time to count each line drawing when moving window:)
[21:08] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:32] <cedric> is it possible to report a bug without using ubuntu-bug ?
[21:34] <yofel> cedric: it is, but first, why do you want to do so?
[21:34] <yofel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net
[21:34] <cedric> libx11 is misconfigured
[21:35] <cedric> and it impact window setup time
[21:36] <cedric> i just need to point the maintainer of libx11 issue so that he can take care of it
[21:36] <yofel> well, see the link I posted, and please don't forget to add the libx11 version and ubuntu release you're using
[21:38] <cedric> thanks will do
[21:38] <cedric> and it does impact all version of ubuntu since at least 2009
[21:38] <cedric> i just updated to see if it was fixed
[21:45] <cedric> yofel: done, thanks for your help
[21:47] <yofel> np