/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/11/26/#ubuntu-devel.txt

TheMusobdrung: Please include debian changelog entries with merge uploads.00:12
bdrungTheMuso: damn, i forgot it again.00:13
bdrungTheMuso: i need to make sponsor-patch usable for my own uploads, too. :)00:13
=== sanchaz is now known as sanchaz-away
bdrungTheMuso: you refer to vlc, right?00:14
TheMusobdrung: yes.00:14
TheMusoAs long as you are aware of it.00:14
bdrungTheMuso: it happens way to often.00:14
TheMusoDon't worry, you're not the only one.00:14
bdrungTheMuso: now i have to close the bug manually.00:15
micahgit seems to be happening quite a bit lately (I've done it a few times as well)00:15
bdrungTheMuso: i hope that x264 is accepted soon (the we can sync vlc)00:15
TheMusoYeah.00:16
TheMusomicahg: Yeah its easy to miss.00:16
TheMusoThats where MoM has an advantage...00:17
bdrungTheMuso: but mom is too slow for my workflow (upload to debian, merge, upload to ubuntu)00:17
TheMusoYeah I understand.00:17
TheMusoI am just saying that MoM has a merge-package script which includes the -v flag for you.00:18
micahgTheMuso: last one I missed was when I didn't sign the file for testing, then I signed and uploaded, I intended to use -v when I regenerated and signed, but forgot00:18
TheMusoheh00:18
bdrungdebuild should be more intelegent with Xubuntu1 versions00:18
TheMusoThat could be a solution, yes.00:19
micahgbdrung: that's hard as the last upload might have been some random previous debian version, but now a merge is required00:20
bdrungmicahg: at least a warning would be nice00:20
micahgbdrung: yep, that could work00:21
xnoxbdrung, micahg: from bzr bd --help00:21
xnox  --package-merge       Build using the appropriate -v and -sa options for00:21
xnox                        merging in the changes from another source.00:21
* xnox is not sure what that one does =)00:22
bdrungxnox: that's nice00:22
xnoxI have just noticed this on launchpad:"A newer version of yelp is available for packaging: Yelp 2.30.2"00:23
xnoxWow =) this is cool =)00:23
xnoxWhere is launchpad *new features* changelog btw? for stuff like that.00:24
bdrungxnox: link?00:25
xnoxhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp00:26
xnoxit seems that launchpad needs tarballs/milestones in launchpad to do that =)00:26
bdrungnice00:26
bdrungmicahg: are you member of the pkg-mozext team?00:27
micahgbdrung: nt yet00:27
micahg*not00:27
bdrungmicahg: it's the place where we should update the extensions00:27
=== dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates
micahgbdrung: makes sense, i still need to get comfortable with git though00:28
bdrungmicahg: that will take as long as it takes to learn packaging ;)00:28
xnoxbdrung, rubish =) git is easy =) easier than autoconf =))))00:34
bdrungxnox: that's not hard (to be easier than autoconf)00:36
=== freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying
sivanghi all00:46
sivangI wonder if anybody could toss a quick pointer to where this is used in kubuntu? https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/couchdb-qt00:47
Riddellsivang: it's not00:48
sivangRiddell: hey :)00:48
sivangRiddell: so what was its purpose?00:48
Riddelllooks like harald was looking at using it with his summer of code ubuntu one kde project00:49
sivangRiddell: I want to have a similar qt implementation to what Couchdbkit does, it might be a god start.00:49
sivangRiddell: the code does feel as if it was left in the middle00:49
sivangRiddell: I see, thanks for the note.00:49
Riddellapachelogger is the guy to ask00:49
Riddellbut he'll be asleep00:50
sivangRiddell: okay, I'll email him00:50
=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk
Chipacaajmitch: thanks for the info. I'll continue to hug my notmuchmail then :)02:12
ssj6akshatHow do i translate the debian-installer?02:52
=== asac_ is now known as asac
=== dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates
cjwatsonI answered ssj6akshat in /msg05:35
hugoshithis is wierd and quite specific - I've been having trouble with emacs because all the shift arrow keys work inside a terminal except for shift up05:37
hugoshiI've fixed it05:37
hugoshiby simply recompiling the terminfo for xterm-256color05:37
hugoshiI'm not sure how that fixed it, but the recompiled binary is a different size than the original.. which is strange05:38
twbOn lucid in LSB sysvinit scripts, log_progress_msg is defined with the comment05:52
twb# On Ubuntu, one would expect log_progress_msg to be a no-op.05:52
twb...but its definition appears to print things, and I'm no seeing anything being printed.05:52
twbAh, it seems that log_action_end_msg eats it05:53
twbI'm still confused as to where the newlines between " * starting foo" and "   ...done." come from.05:55
ssj6akshatIs there any ubuntu multitouch devel channel?06:12
bilalakhtarssj6akshat: #ayatana06:14
bilalakhtaruTouch is a part of the Ayatana project06:15
ssj6akshatbilalakhtar, ah thanks06:16
bilalakhtarssj6akshat: no, wait a minute, I don't think that is06:16
cjwatson#ubuntu-touch06:18
bilalakhtarssj6akshat: ^06:18
cjwatsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch06:18
ssj6akshatcjwatson, ah thanks06:19
ebroderYou know, it's still way too early to be declaring victory, but the length of the sponsorship queue appears to be gaining downwards momentum this week06:20
twbAha, busted. /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh redefines stuff06:34
twb(To talk to usplash, which is weird, because plymouth replaced it.)06:34
=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk
twbWTF07:02
twbThe GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT code is handled in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober -- which exists despite os-prober being purged07:02
twbOops, wrong channel.07:02
ssj6akshatno one in #ubuntu-touch seems to be responding07:04
ebroderssj6akshat: It's a holiday in the States and early morning in Europe. Be patient07:04
ssj6akshatebroder, ok07:10
twbebroder: oh, THAT's where everybody is07:14
pittiGood morning07:29
nigelbMorning pitti07:30
ssj6akshatmorning pitti07:31
didrocksgood morning07:55
dholbachgood morning!07:59
=== almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan
LetoThe2ndg'morning! Yesterday I reported a bug via apport, which got marked as duplicate. the message said i shall lookup the original and see if i can provide additional information. i think i can (workaround), but the original bug is marked private. therefore, the mail i received is kind of pointless - i can't access and comment the original bug :-(08:34
pitti@pilot in08:56
=== udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: pitti
pittiwelcome ladies and gentlemen, I'll be your pilot today08:56
twbHmph08:56
twbThe 10.04 udev security update assumes udevadm isn't dpkg-diverted by the local sysadmin.08:57
nigelbpitti: heh, Martin Airlines ;) ?08:57
* ebroder is certain there's a good "Airplane" joke buried somewhere in this patch pilot business08:57
pittiyes, they are a bit patchy :)08:58
dholbachebroder, I know the guy who draws http://www.chickenwingscomics.com/ - I'm sure you'll find enough ideas for airplane jokes in there :)08:58
ebroderdholbach: I was thinking of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/ . Awesome comedy movie08:59
dholbachoh ok - I didn't know it before09:00
goodwillcould someone with Ubuntu 10.04 tell me if inputlirc run there by default? You can do it by running this in terminal: ps auxw|grep inputlirc09:01
dholbachgoodwill, not as far as I can see09:03
goodwilldholbach: thank you09:04
twbgoodwill: wouldn't that depend on whether it was installed?09:04
twbIt's not pulled in by any of the normal metapackages (e.g. ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-standard).09:05
LetoThe2nd(sorry, bump) g'morning! Yesterday I reported a bug via apport, which got marked as duplicate. the message said i shall lookup the original and see if i can provide additional information. i think i can (workaround), but the original bug is marked private. therefore, the mail i received is kind of pointless - i can't access and comment the original bug :-( - so how to make the maintainer aware of the workaround, which might lead to a fix?09:06
goodwilltwb: I did not think so ... but I had lircd vs. inputlirc issues in 10.10 I am writing about in XBMC which are a bit similar09:07
goodwilldholbach: can you do me one additional small favor and tell me if inputlirc is at all available in 10.04. You can use: apt-cache search inputlirc09:08
ebrodergoodwill: You can find this out yourself by going to http://packages.ubuntu.com/inputlirc or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/inputlirc09:11
goodwillebroder: right ... forgot about that09:11
twbOr the heavyweight solution: pbuilder create --distribution lucid; pbuilder login; apt-cache policy inputlirc09:12
ari-tczewpitti: ready for sponsoring? :)09:44
pittiyep, already working on one bug09:44
ari-tczewpitti: could you take a look on this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/telepathy-haze/telepathy-haze-fix-652944/+merge/4159709:46
pittiari-tczew: sure09:48
=== ogra_ac_ is now known as ogra_ac
ari-tczewpitti: do you will copy this change to natty? ^^09:58
pittiari-tczew: I'll upload it to natty09:59
ari-tczewok09:59
ari-tczewdholbach: do you know who deals with hall-of-fame? It seems to be outdated so far10:00
dholbachari-tczew, it's in the process of being rewritten10:00
ari-tczewaha ok10:00
dholbachthe old version is pretty much unmaintained10:00
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/HallOfFameRewrite if you're interested in helping out10:00
pittiari-tczew: done10:02
ari-tczewdholbach: I can't. I'm a n00b in code write.10:03
dholbachlike in all other things having interest in making it work is the most important thing :)10:05
pittilamont: I sponsored bug 533601 and attached a debdiff suitable for Debian; want me to create a Debian bug for this, or is this sufficient for you?10:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 533601 in bind9 (Ubuntu) "Apport hook for bind9" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53360110:11
ari-tczewpitti: could you check status of branch?  https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/maverick/apache2/maverick-passphrase-plymouth-change/+merge/3661010:11
pittiari-tczew: will put as second into my queue10:12
pittirodrigo asked earlier :)10:12
ari-tczewpitti: for my question?10:12
pittifor above branch review10:13
pittiari-tczew: seems it's already applied in natty10:21
pittibut this is not ever something that I'd put into an SRU10:22
pittiplymouth integration for apache on a server?10:22
pittithis looks seriously broken10:22
pittiwouldn't that stop your boot?10:22
ogra_acwould it show your websites on plymouth ? :P10:25
ari-tczewpitti: dunno, I'm only reviewing sponsors queue10:25
pittiari-tczew: I commented on the branch and bug10:25
ari-tczewpitti: could you take a look on bug 677129 ?10:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 677129 in xterm (Ubuntu) "Please merge xterm 266-1 (main) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67712910:33
pittiari-tczew: yep, will do10:35
ari-tczewpitti: thanks for your time and patience due to quantity of my highlights :)10:41
pittiari-tczew: that's my job today :) but I need to balance it with other requests, and also the old stuff which is in the queue, so I can't get to everything immediately10:43
ari-tczewpitti: so, do you will review a couple of old bugs also?10:43
pittiari-tczew: I'm starting from oldest first10:44
ari-tczewpitti: I'm pleased!10:44
=== hanska is now known as dapol
=== dapol is now known as dapal
ari-tczewpitti: do you mind if me or someone else will take your merges?10:49
pittiari-tczew: how you mean "take my merges"?10:49
pittioh, my merges!10:49
pittiari-tczew: no, not at all10:50
pittiari-tczew: (sorry, I'm looking at merge proposals all the time, got confused :) )10:50
pittiari-tczew: I'd appreciate a quick ping if you do, since I've looked at some which don't make much sense to do10:50
ari-tczewpitti: understand ;)10:50
xnoxhow often does: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ update? My merge proposal is not visible yet =)10:53
xnoxor do I have to have a bug as well?10:53
pittiat least every 30 minutes, possibly more often10:53
xnoxIt's up there already =) never mind missed it in the sorting view =)10:54
xnoxari-tczew, heya =) it's me with xiphos update branch10:54
xnoxI'll check the comments now ;-)10:54
ari-tczewxnox: HELLO10:55
* ari-tczew sorry for caps10:55
xnoxari-tczew, I'm the maintainer of Xiphos in Debian as well. We would like to push sword-1.6.2 to debian experimental first. and then update xiphos and bibletime against sword 1.6.2 in experimental.10:56
xnoxIt is not a priority to get it into debian experimental since squeeze is frozen =)10:56
xnoxBut bdrung has asked me about xiphos 3.1.4 to make it compatible with xul20 and gtkthml 3.32 so easy the migrations / dist-upgrades in natty asap10:57
ari-tczewxnox: ok, would be nice. my proposition is: get these changes to Debian experimental first, then sync into ubuntu natty10:57
xnoxok10:57
xnoxWill seek sponsorship now then.10:57
pittiari-tczew: xterm bug already seems to be in progress, and mvo had some concerns about it11:02
ari-tczewok11:03
xnoxmicahg, with xulrunner-2.0 package there will be no incompatible changes between released 2.0.0 an 2.0.99 to the UPPER/LOWER_RANGES?11:09
xnoxor they have some new policy for those?11:10
chrisccoulsonxnox - the policy hasn't changed AFAIK, so there's no guarantee that there will be no breakage11:14
chrisccoulsonin fact, there's more likely to be breakage now (see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM/XPCOM_changes_in_Gecko_2.0)11:15
chrisccoulson"No more frozen interfaces"11:15
xnoxchrisccoulson, now that is just wonderful =) how do I keep up with future xulrunner updates and test xiphos before each new xulrunner revision in e.g. released natty?11:44
chrisccoulsonxnox, i'm not sure. watching the ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA for updates might be one way11:45
chrisccoulsonwe generally don't test these updates on everything before we publish them (else I'd spend my entire time testing security updates)11:46
xnoxhm. 1.9.1 -> 1.9.2 transition failed for xiphos. Xiphos build against 1.9.2, users had 1.9.1 and 1.9.2 installed resulting in xiphos crashing.11:47
xnoxAnd then later 1.9.2.2 -> 1.9.2.3 updated cause UI bugs in Xiphos.......11:47
chrisccoulsonxnox, we need to tighten GREVersion to stop that from happening (for the 1.9.1 -> 1.9.2 case)11:47
xnoxwell this is just me rumbuling =)11:47
xnoxchrisccoulson, I will tigthen GREVersion. But how tight?11:48
xnox2.0.0 - 2.0.99?11:48
chrisccoulsonfor the 1.9.2.2 -> 1.9.2.3 case, i'm not sure what to do about that. in general, interfaces shouldn't break in minor versions, but there is no guarantee there11:48
xnoxor less than that?11:48
chrisccoulsonxnox, yeah, basically, i want everything in the archive in natty to only work with 2.0.011:48
chrisccoulsonthe reason for this is:11:48
chrisccoulsonsometime in the future, natty will get a new xulrunner version (when 2.0 goes EOL)11:49
chrisccoulsonwe will port some applications to the new version11:49
chrisccoulsonbut others need to carry on working with the current 2.011:49
chrisccoulsonone of the difficulties we had when backporting 1.9.2 to our old releases, is that a lot of applications set crazy wide limits for the GREVersion, which meant i had to fix/patch a lot more applications than i wanted to11:50
xnoxchrisccoulson, ok. so currently I get build-dep on xulrunner-2.0 via shlibdeps so appropriate GREVersion limits are 2.0.0 and 2.0.99? And then hope for the best for no minor breakages in between.11:54
chrisccoulsonxnox, you'll need to set the lower version to 2.0b to work with the current version11:54
chrisccoulsonand i set the upper version to 2.0.0.* (gecko usually has a 4 part version number)11:55
xnoxCurrently xiphos is fine from xulrunner 1.9.0 -> 2.0.0 so we should detect which xulrunner we are building against at configure time, and preserve the limits in the binary to ${xul-mayor}.${xul-minor}.0 - 99?11:55
chrisccoulsonyeah, that would be ok11:55
xnoxchrisccoulson, 2.0.0 loads fine on my natty for lower bound?11:55
xnoxwith xul-2.0.....11:56
quadrispropitti, ping11:58
chrisccoulsonxnox, oh, that's good then. that probably means i can change that in gnome-python-extras too11:58
xnoxYelp is no-go with xulrunner 2.0 yet?11:58
quadrispropitti, would you mind to review my commit? http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/libmtp.git;a=commitdiff;h=75a69d11:58
lamontpitti: looking at the bug11:58
=== al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away
xnoxchrisccoulson, also for Universe we get stuff from debian which has 1.9.2 in experimental so far.....12:01
* quadrispro having launch12:05
chrisccoulsonxnox, yeah, that is a side effect of our different maintenance policy in ubuntu. i don't think there is anything we can do about that12:08
chrisccoulsoni'm generally taking care of the packages which come from debian to make sure they work with our newer firefox version12:09
chrisccoulsonxnox, if you feel like helping out at all, i have a list here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Natty/Firefox4/XULRunner20Transition :)12:09
xnoxchrisccoulson, ok thanks =)12:10
quadrispropitti, it needs some work12:12
chrisccoulsonxnox - you might want to add your name to xiphos if you're working on that :)12:12
chrisccoulsonso i don't end up duplicating work12:12
xnoxchrisccoulson, yeap =) sure12:13
chrisccoulsonthanks12:13
=== MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch
xnoxchrisccoulson, about the four-part version number. Why the package is called xulrunner-2.0 and not xulrunner-2.0.0? or does it not matter?12:25
xnoxis the next one going to be xulrunner-2.0.1 or will 2.0.1.0 land inside xulrunner-2.0?12:26
chrisccoulsonxnox - unless it's changed, the current 2.0 series will all have 2.0.0.* version numbers, and 2.0.1 will be the next "major"-ish version12:27
chrisccoulsonjust like with 1.912:27
xnoxok cool =)12:27
pittiquadrispro, lamont: re (back from lunch)12:49
lamontwb12:49
pittiquadrispro: oh argh, there's a comma missing -- is that upstream as well?12:54
pitti++  char default_udev_action[] = "SYMLINK+=\"libmtp-%k\", MODE=\"666\" ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}=\"1\"";12:54
pittiquadrispro: there needs to be a , between MODE and ENV12:55
pittiquadrispro: otherwise it looks fine to me12:56
quadrispropitti, yes, it's upstream13:02
quadrispropitti, pushed. Now I should update udev's rule, but I'm wondering if it's needed to fill ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}=\"1\"" with the proper media-info device's ID13:05
pittiquadrispro: shouldn't; MTP devices can tell by themselves which capabilities they have13:05
pittiquadrispro: but I haven't actually tested banshee other music players what they do13:06
pittiquadrispro: seems that at least in the current version, rhythmbox doesn't really need the ID_MEDIA_PLAYER flag on MTP devices, it just enumerates /dev/libmtp*13:06
pittiso the patch isn't really necessary for rhythmbox13:06
quadrisproyes, I see13:06
quadrisprowould it be sane to upload it now?13:06
pittiquadrispro: so, I think you should just test banshee and perhaps amarok whether they care about it, and whether it makes a difference13:07
quadrispro(sure, after doing a bunch of tests)13:07
pittiquadrispro: I just saw that libmtp's rules come after 40-usb-media-players.rules13:07
pittiso these need to make sure not to tag any device which is already an USB storage device13:08
quadrisprommm, so building now, testing later and then let you know13:09
xnoxchrisccoulson, you are right the min version must be 2.0b or something like that.13:12
xnoxchrisccoulson, can you add two variables to xulrunner pkg-config? GREVerMin and GREVerMax?13:18
chrisccoulsonxnox - yeah, i could do. that's a good idea actually13:19
xnoxwith those values that are preferred in Ubuntu when building against that xulrunner e.g. 2.0b and 2.0.0.99 now and other pairs updated later?13:19
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'll do that13:19
chrisccoulsonthanks for the suggestion!13:19
xnoxcause I really don't want to have in my configure script "when it is alpha, when it is beta, when it is released" logic for xulrunner =)))))13:19
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
pittislangasek: does the plymouth bzr head package work for you? I do get a splash screen, but it looks very ugly (jittery font)13:21
ari-tczewhow long process backport?13:35
* ogra_ac glares at his local shadow build 13:35
ogra_acyacc   getdate.y13:35
ogra_ac/bin/bash: yacc: Kommando nicht gefunden.13:35
ogra_acwhy the heck isnt yacc in the build deps if its used by the build13:35
ogra_acis yacc pulled in by anything in debian we dont ?13:36
pittiogra_ac: that doesn't matter, though; if shadow uses yacc by itself, it needs to b-dep on it, regardless of transitive build deps13:47
pittiogra_ac: which is to say, if it doesn't, that's a bug in Debian as well13:47
ogra_acwell, i dont think that was added recently13:48
ogra_acand it built before13:48
ogra_acalso we have the same deps as debian and it seems to have built there too13:48
sorenogra_ac: Build logs for shadow in maverick don't mention yacc.13:51
sorenogra_ac: Or bison, for that matter.13:51
pittiogra_ac: does the source already ship the preprocessed yacc output?13:51
pittiogra_ac: might be a race condition when the .y gets patched, and thus gets newer than the output13:51
ogra_acpitti, ah, that might be13:53
ogra_achmm, though no patch touches getdate13:55
=== MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow
gesercjwatson: as bug 681535 is "Fix committed", should I check the patch to confirm that it fixes my grub problem?14:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 681535 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68153514:12
=== almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan
cjwatsongeser: feel free, or I'll upload it later this afternoon14:18
cjwatsonI'm pretty sure it does - I mimicked the setup you described and encountered a bug which was at the very least extremely similar14:19
cjwatsongeser: do keep the md lines out of device.map though14:30
gesersure, as you said that the md lines got there by error, I removed them from device.map and kept only those for my harddisks14:31
cjwatson*nod*14:31
geserI'll check if booting from my usb-stick still works before upgrading grub again :)14:32
cjwatsongeser: the patch in bzr may not fix it on its own, of course - there was another patch I committed upstream, plus a postinst patch committed to Debian to avoid a spurious question14:34
cjwatsongeser: I'm merging all of that together for the next upload14:34
geserok, I'll wait on your upload then14:37
cjwatsongeser: source uploaded now14:39
=== hunger_ is now known as hunger
ogra_achmpf14:45
ogra_acdebian touched the file but doesnt run yacc during build14:45
ogra_acwe didnt touch the same file but yacc is executed14:45
* ogra_ac doesnt get that14:45
=== dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates
=== tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter
=== jelmer_ is now known as jelmer
pittitseliot: can you handle bug 639976? it's a trivial change, but I can't commit to your git14:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 639976 in Package Descriptions for Ubuntu "Typo in package description: NVIDIA 8 should be GeForce 8" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63997614:56
* tseliot has a look14:57
ogra_acgrrr, ok. yacc is not executed on x8614:57
tseliotpitti: sure, I'll do it now14:58
pittitseliot: (no upload required for that, just to not forget it); thanks!14:58
tseliotpitti: right, I'll just commit it in git, in case I forget14:58
=== cking is now known as cking-afk
pittidholbach: I like the slope of the first graph at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/ since we started this pilot thing ;)15:07
dholbachpitti, same here :)15:08
dholbachit's awesome15:08
dholbachonce we're done with that, there's still 2000 bugs with patches in LP :-P15:08
sladenpitti: do you have a tag for  installed-footprint  opportunities and  cd-size  opportunities?15:09
pittisladen: I don't; feel free to invent one :)15:09
gesercjwatson: thanks, the new grub version installs and boots without problems15:11
hallynall right is there any text-based browserthat works right with lp+openid?15:11
dholbachw3m?15:12
geserthere was one: elinks or links if I remember correctly15:12
hallynlynx gives me an infinite loop,15:12
hallyni thought elinks had failed me, but i'll re-try hat i guess15:12
hallynthink i tried w3m in prague, but wth i'll try again15:13
hallynw3m won't show me the 'submit' button at lp login15:15
hallynelinks just clears the form and asks me to fill it back in15:16
gesersee bug 628755 for the w3m issue which got fixed for natty15:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 628755 in Launchpad Foundations "Impossible to log in in Launchpad using apport from a tty console with w3m (dup-of: 523229)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62875515:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 523229 in Canonical SSO provider "The Continue button isn't selectable in w3m for sso login" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52322915:18
bdrungwow, the sponsor queue gets smaller!15:18
ari-tczewyes, I agreed. today work is very good. thanks for pitti!15:19
ari-tczewmaybe pitti should be patch pilot more frequently?15:19
pittiit wasn't just me :)15:19
pittiwe have had patch pilots every day now15:20
hallyngeser: interesting, thanks.  so if i update that one to natty i could do it :)15:20
ari-tczewpitti: but your activities are strong because you have expierence and knowledge with handling SRUs15:20
geserhallyn: perhaps; there also some other bugs about cookies, LP and text-browsers: e.g. bug 53545615:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 535456 in Launchpad Foundations "Log-in loop when authenticating to Launchpad with Lynx (dup-of: 586908)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53545615:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 586908 in Launchpad Foundations "OpenID login fails for non-beta LP users using lynx and possibly other browsers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58690815:23
geserjust try every text-browser out till you find one that works15:23
hallyngeser: well i've just tried lynx, elinks, and w3m, so think i'm resorting to install vnc+fvwm+firefox :(15:23
quadrispropitti, 40-usb-media-player.rules and 45-libmtp8.rules share several device IDs15:24
pittiquadrispro: some devices offer both access modes15:24
quadrisproso this is not a problem, isn't it?15:25
pittiquadrispro: well, it means that the ="1" tagged ones will overwrite the ones in media-player-info15:26
pittiquadrispro: ideally we could move libmtp rules before m-p-i rules15:26
=== cking-afk is now known as cking
pittithen the hand-maintained mpi ones could fine-tune/override the autogenerated mtp ones as needed15:27
quadrisproyep, I've written a small script to calculate differences between the two rules and so, what should we do to re-order them without introducing regressions?15:29
pittiquadrispro: well, either move libmtp to 40-* (which would be more adhering to the current convention), or move m-p-i rules to 50-*15:32
pittior rather 46-*15:32
pitti@pilot out15:33
=== udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots:
pittinow, 19 sponsoring items less :)15:34
dholbachyeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw15:34
* dholbach hugs pitti15:34
* pitti hugs dholbach for his perseverance15:34
ogra_acbut you could at least properly land the plane before jumping off :P15:34
ogra_acpoor passengers15:34
pittidholbach: I have to admit it does work better if you have a schedule and a solid block, instead of this fuzzy "one hour a week"15:34
quadrispropitti, yep, it was clear :) sorry, my wrong question, 2nd attempt: what should we do *before* re-arranging them?15:35
pittiogra_ac: this is Unix. 90% solutions are okay!15:35
pitti*cough*15:35
dholbachpitti, now we need just more people on the schedule :)15:35
pittiquadrispro: if we swap their order, I think the mtp change is just fine15:35
* quadrispro hugs dholbach 15:35
ogra_acpitti, dholbach, though a proper gmail schedule you can subscribe to for reminders would be a lot better15:35
* dholbach hugs quadrispro back15:35
pittiogra_ac: I just added my days to my calendar15:35
dholbachpitti++ :)15:35
* ogra_ac isnt sure he will remember in two months when exactly his pilot days are15:36
ogra_acpitti, well, i'd like an automatic reminder15:36
dholbachand there's people in the community who don't use gmail15:36
ari-tczewdholbach: can we order pitti more frequently as patch pilot?15:36
ogra_acwithout having to add it every month15:36
ogra_acbecause i will surely forget to over time15:36
hallynwhere *is* the schedule again?15:36
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews#Schedule15:37
pittiari-tczew: well, it's not like I've not done sponsoring before; I do that every other day (just not that intense)15:37
pittiI think the point of this is to spread it to more people :)15:37
pittiari-tczew: also, it seems that I got signed up for Jan 3 and 1015:37
hallynthanks!15:37
pittidholbach: ^ :)15:37
ari-tczewwith that strong I believe that we get clean sponsors queue before FeatureFreeze15:38
pitti(but that's ok)15:38
dholbachpitti, it wasn't me!15:38
ari-tczewpitti: I mean not only done clean today by you. I include feedback from our today cooperation.15:38
dholbachI suspect a copying mistake, let me fix it15:39
geserogra_ac: I assume those with sponsoring items in the queue will remind you when it's your time to fly :)15:41
ogra_acgeser, well15:42
=== beuno is now known as beuno-lunch
bdrungebroder: around? i need your help for bug #681242.15:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 681242 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[sponsor-patch] Support building with sbuild" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68124215:51
bdrungebroder: i need a sbuild equivalent for "sudo", "-E", "DIST=" + dist, "pbuilder", "--build", "--distribution", dist, "--buildresult", result_directory, "--architecture", self.architecture, dsc_file15:52
hyperairresult_directory is pwd, so i reckon you could chdir15:53
hyperairotherwise there's sbuild -d $distribution-$architecture $dsc_file15:53
hyperairbdrung: ^15:54
dholbachholy cow15:55
dholbachwe're at 14 sponsoring items15:55
dholbacherm15:55
dholbach4415:55
dholbach44°15:55
dholbach44!15:55
* dholbach is a happy man15:55
sorenWow! 44! That like 2658271574788448768043625811014615890319638528000000000!15:56
sorenThat's just crazy.15:56
dholbachwe were over 100 consistantly for a long time before :)15:56
dholbach... in case my excitement is not understandable :)15:57
soren44! = 265827157478844876804362581101461589031963852800000000015:57
bdrunghyperair: -d $distribution-$architecture? really?15:57
ttxdholbach: would be better if you had 42. Let me see what I can do to fix that.15:57
* dholbach hugs ttx15:57
dholbach:)15:57
* dholbach hugs soren too15:57
hyperairbdrung: yep.15:57
* soren hugs dholbach back15:57
ttxdholbach: my sbuild is a bit stuck in openldap tests for an update that pitti asked for, though :)15:57
bdrungsoren: 2658271574788448768043625811014615890319638528000000000! != 44!15:58
hyperairbdrung: if you omit -$arch, then it defaults to uname -m15:58
hyperairer i mean whatever architecture you're using, in dpkg's arch format15:58
mvodholbach: \o/15:58
geserttx: hopefully nobody sabotage you by adding items to queue15:58
sorenbdrung: Very much not equal, no.15:58
sorenbdrung: *My* "!" was an exclamation point, not the factorial operator. Clearly :)15:59
ttx4615:59
ttxgeser: stop that !15:59
sorenttx: You did it wrong.15:59
geserdholbach: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/D0eee69d/02430_hugme_2560x1600.jpg :)16:03
dholbachFile Not Found16:03
dholbachError 404.16:04
geserhmm, works here16:05
dholbachno, sorry - not here :/16:05
bdrunghyperair: does this command work too: "sudo", "sbuild", "-A", "--dist=" + dist, "--arch=" + self.architecture, dsc_file16:07
hyperairbdrung: i'd avoid the sudo. sbuild doesn't need it.16:08
bdrungk16:08
hyperair-A, --arch-all16:08
hyperairbdrung: ^^ got that from manpage16:08
hyperairand --dist= works, yeah16:08
bdrunghyperair: do you have time to test sbuild with sponsor-patch?16:09
hyperairbdrung: mm give me a quick test case16:10
bdrunghyperair: sponsor-patch -B sbuild -b 68141816:10
hyperairbdrung: do i need to patch sponsor-patch first?16:11
bdrunghyperair: you need to pull the latest u-d-t branch and apply http://pastebin.com/rA3ZpysD16:11
hyperairbdrung: what's that in bzrfu16:11
bdrungbzr pull lp:ubuntu-dev-tools16:11
hyperairi suppose i'll need to branch16:11
bdrungpatch -p0 < patchfile16:11
bdrunghyperair: yes (branch)16:12
hyperairokay16:12
bdrungtumbleweed: you fail with wrapping. please split "paragraph["Architecture"] = " ".join( sorted(archs, key=lambda x: (1 - int("any" in x), x)))" into two commands16:14
bdrungtumbleweed: what's that for: lambda x: (1 - int("any" in x), x)? please comment it16:15
tumbleweedright, to put wildcards first16:15
bdrungtumbleweed: wildcards? like what?16:15
tumbleweedlinx-any16:16
hyperairbdrung: ..16:16
hyperairpatching file sponsor-patch16:16
hyperairpatch unexpectedly ends in middle of line16:16
bdrungtumbleweed: ah, ok. please comment that and maybe add an example16:16
hyperairpatch: **** malformed patch at line 145:16:16
hyperairbdrung: could you use paste.debian.net? it's much more patch friendly.16:17
hyperairbdrung: i aliased my pastebinit away from pastebin.com precisely for that reason16:17
bdrunghyperair: gimme your alias16:18
hyperairalias pastebinit='pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net'16:18
bdrunghyperair: there you are:16:18
bdrunghttp://paste.debian.net/100818/16:18
hyperairthanks16:18
hyperairand there we go, it works16:19
stgraberyou can also store a configuration file in your home directory ;)16:19
hyperairnow then.. where was that command..16:19
hyperair  File "./sponsor-patch", line 812, in <module>16:20
hyperairNameError: name 'Sbuild' is not defined16:20
bdrung./sponsor-patch -B sbuild -b 681418 -v16:20
hyperairsame thing16:20
stgraberbdrung, hyperair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/536749/ (~/.pastebinit.xml)16:20
hyperairstgraber: hmm nice.16:21
hyperairstgraber: but i don't like paste.ubuntu.com either, because you need to log in in order to download. makes it *extremely* annoying.16:21
hyperairstgraber: if you know who maintains paste.ubuntu.com, please relay my message.16:21
bdrunghyperair: http://paste.debian.net/100819/16:21
stgraberhyperair: I'd guess #canonical-sysadmin. Obviously you can have your .pastebinit.xml file to point to paste.debian.net16:22
hyperairstgraber: yeah, i'll do that16:22
bdrungpastebinit lacks an killer feature - autodetecting file type16:22
stgraberbdrung: patches are welcome :) I remember a few people asking me for that feature though I usually only spend 30min to an hour a year working on pastebinit :)16:23
hyperairbdrung: actually, even if you told it that you were uploading a patch, those @@'s get stripped. stupid thing.16:23
stgraber(and that's mostly reviewing patches, merging, testing and pushing to the archive)16:23
hyperairbdrung: with pastebin.com, you'd be better off base64enc'ing everything before pasting16:24
bdrunghyperair: i prefer paste.d.o anyway16:25
hyperair.n16:26
hyperairbdrung: okay, sponsor-patch keeps failing at debsign.16:28
bdrunghyperair: add a -k option16:28
hyperairok16:29
cjwatsongeser: excellent, thanks for confirming16:32
hyperairbdrung: okay, it's building. should i get worried now about it accidentally uploading a package or will it prompt me again?16:35
ebroderbdrung: ["sbuild", "-d", dist, "--arch", self.architecture, "-A", dsc_file]. But I don't see a way to change the output directory, so you might have to play with your working dir16:38
hyperairebroder: http://paste.debian.net/100819/16:39
hyperairebroder: all done.16:39
hyperairbdrung: and it works =)16:39
hyperairbdrung: it ends at lintian. i assume that's correct?16:39
ebroderhyperair: Yeah, noticed as I was finishing my scrolling16:40
ebroderhyperair, bdring: You guys know that subprocess.call has a cwd= kwarg, right?16:40
* hyperair didn't have any part in modifying that patch16:41
ebroderbdrung: Looks fine. Are you sure dsc_file is going to be an absolute pth? I don't have the code in front of me, just the patch, so I don't know if I'm missing something16:42
ebroderpitti: Congratulations. Way to kick ass on piloting16:43
pittithanks :)16:44
=== Lutin is now known as Guest27846
ebroderxnox: If you're going to fix xiphos through Debian, should I reject your merge proposal?16:53
=== beuno-lunch is now known as beuno
=== al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away
mptI wonder if the people who use Ubuntu in Occitan wish that we didn't call it "Occitan (post 1500)"17:16
ebroderHaha. Do we call our Hellenic language "Modern Greek" as well?17:18
=== Guest27846 is now known as Lutin
bdrunghyperair: yes, it ends with lintian. can you try the same with "-u ubuntu" (and say no if you get ask if you want to upload it)?17:34
bdrungebroder: yes, it uses absolute paths17:34
cjwatsonNCommander: AFAICS your last cdimage change has the net effect of not only stopping building ubuntu-netbook for armel+dove, but starting to build it again for i386 (due to the later wildcard).  Was this intentional?  if not, ubuntu-netbook/daily-live needs to be removed from the crontab if it isn't supposed to build for anything17:54
dokoJamesPage: could you have a look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt for the java stuff (the ones wanting to promote to main)?17:56
=== RoAk is now known as andreserl
hyperairbdrung: erm it says [Y/e/n]. what's e?18:34
bdrunghyperair: edit18:34
hyperairah18:35
hyperairbdrung: you should add a ? option to expand these things.18:35
hyperairit's not particularly verbose there18:35
hyperairi don't believe it's documented anywhere either18:35
bdrunghyperair: file a bug. if you type something else, it will print: "Please answer the question with yes, edit, or no."18:36
* hyperair has exams and is lazy to file bugs. >_>18:36
bdrunghyperair: look in the man page: "the user has an option to edit the patched source and try  building  it again."18:38
hyperairah okay, i missed that18:38
SeanInSeattleHey all.  Can anyone tell me whether or not the following functionality is slated to be included in a future and/or current release of Ubuntu:  When a laptop is disconnected from any, or is connected to one or more, external monitors is updates the nvidia/x configuration accordingly?19:34
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ping20:03
=== Richie is now known as WelshDragon
=== TerminX_ is now known as TerminX
JamesPagedoko: ack; will pickup first thing monday21:51
psusipitti, you mentioned about basing off the new rev in debian ( of lvm2 ).  Are you saying I should do a merge from the debian branch first, and THEN update to the new upstream?23:02
psusiahh, there's the debian bzr branch... hrm... now which one?  squeeze or sid?23:03
ebroderpsusi: Yes, that's definitely what you should be doing23:05
psusihrm.... ok...23:06
psusiaw geeze... the debian package has the wrong version number23:13
psusilvm2 (2.02.66-3) by  Bastian Blank says:  Bastian Blank23:13
psusibah... Import upstream version 2.02.72:23:13
psusihe forgot to bump the package revision number23:14
=== schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!