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bernardohi02:23
bernardowhat's the difference between the 'lowlatency' and 'realtime' kernels?02:23
bernardohttp://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick02:23
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vishhi, a patch from fdo was cherry picked for Bug #507148 , but that patch causes Bug #652934 …  it turns out that the cherry-picked patch has now been updated and merged in mainline kernel.. we now need to revert old patch and use the updated the patch..09:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 507148 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 4 other projects) "[lucid] desktop runs out of video memory on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 (affects: 8) (heat: 46)" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50714809:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 652934 in linux (Ubuntu) "[RV515] Guest session causes screen to flicker violently and session is unusable (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65293409:23
apwvish got a reference to the updated patch?09:41
vishapw: last comment on Bug #652934 has the commit#09:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 652934 in linux (Ubuntu) "[RV515] Guest session causes screen to flicker violently and session is unusable (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65293409:41
vishapw: that was from https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26302 , they mentioned the commit#09:43
ubot2Freedesktop bug 26302 in Driver/Radeon "[M7 LW] desktop runs out of video memory on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500" [Major,Resolved: fixed]09:43
apwvish so the fix releases on the flickering bug is not working for you?09:45
apwoh missread ignore that09:46
vishapw: yea, i dint have any problems earlier, it causes http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56913353/P1010994.MOV09:46
rsajdok09:47
apwvish which release are you testing on, mavierck?09:47
vishyup09:48
vishapw: i had this problem since lucid, but i was told there was a fix for the bug coming in the 'next' kernel update, but it turned out to never fix this issue.. so i had to install all the earlier kernels and test again..09:49
AceLan_vish: maverick already has 2b66b50b12cabc05f05543e792d4c9c2465d5702, so cherry one more commit 2b66b50b12cabc05f05543e792d4c9c2465d5702 can fix the problem?09:49
vishAceLan_: maybe... i'm not sure.. i just tested the kernels, dont know what each commit does.. :)09:50
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apwAceLan_, there is a rumour the first commit was also updated09:53
AceLan_hmm09:57
apwvish so were you affected by the original bug09:59
AceLan_I can't see any difference between maverick and upstream kernel on the commit 1e4966cc558d6aac892abeed6434591348103dff and e376573f7267390f4e1bdc552564b6fb913bce7609:59
vishapw: i have an [RV515] which has the flickering problem, but no issue of running out of memory as in "[lucid] desktop runs out of video memory on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 "10:00
vishAceLan_: actually the patch landed in lucid..10:01
apwAceLan_, the fix which was applied though for that bug was 160ae3be8d42701afc19cf71d6e0d2c0a6160e8210:01
vishor i can also test .36 again for a couple more days and make [completely] sure it does not cause the problem..10:01
AceLan_vish: yes, that would be better10:02
vishAceLan_: sure..  .36 has an issue where X freezes at random, which sometimes prevents me from running a session continuously, hence the minor doubt..  will try again..10:03
visha session == my user session10:03
apwAceLan_, well as things stands we have two commits in maverick which claim to fix the same issue10:04
apwand only one is upstream right now10:04
AceLan_apw: no, upstream containes two commit 2b66b50b12 and e376573f72, and in maverick only has e376573f7210:06
apwAceLan_, no maverick has two commits e376573f72 and 160ae3be8d42701afc19cf71d6e0d2c0a6160e8210:07
apwthe second one where is the one which seems to ahve come from drm-next and looks like it may have been replaced by the first10:07
apwbut we have bot10:07
apwboth10:07
apwAceLan_, cirtainly we are alos missing the fix to the upstream fix10:09
apwthe simplest solution is to revert the patch we are carrying and pull in the retry fix, and get both sets of people to test the result; /me does that10:10
AceLan_apw: yes, upstream kernel doesn't have 160ae3be, so remove it should be okay, but I think 2b66b50b12 is important to e376573f7210:15
* AceLan_ dinner&10:21
apwAceLan_, right indeed i concur with that analysis and is what i am building as a test kernel10:22
AceLan_apw: cool10:44
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VelmontSome time ago, I saw some patches to make filesystems with UNIX rights able to mount WITHOUT any of those rights. I'm using Ext4 and HFSplus for two external drives, and I don't like that I need to be root in order to use them (because the user ids are different on diff computers). Also; I could just a+rwx everything, but a) it looks ugly (not important :P) b) more importantly, I very often forget, because it's not too easy to remember.13:24
VelmontAny chance a change like that will be carried by Ubuntu? IIRC the discussion on LKML just died out, some against some for. Can't find the thread right now.13:25
apwVelmont, i recall it being discussed but i do not recall anything coming of it14:19
Velmontapw: Yes, just like the LKML-thread.14:20
apwthere is often a feeling expressed that the consumer should not be doing that14:20
VelmontUsing those filesystems?14:21
apwbasically yes, though i can see why one might want to14:21
apwthe resolution i think was a generic uid mapping layer, but i don't think anyone did anything towards it14:22
VelmontMm. It's because vfat is not there at all, doesn't play well with big files (which is what I do (video)). And NTFS doesn't "just work" in the same way, -- also NTFS also has such file attributes, so that doesn't help :-)14:22
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apwhrm X just dumped something into the kernel which it did _not_ like, boom19:15
* ogra_ac bets apw just forgot to modprobe unity :P20:04
apwogra_ac, its more likely i _did_ modprobe unity :)20:09
ogra_acheh20:15
DarxusHas there been any discussion of including the "automated per tty task groups" patch in natty?  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video20:47
RAOFDarxus: That patch has already gone in.22:59
DarxusRAOF: Saw that on the list.  That's great.  Thanks.23:00

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