=== Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [05:41] ugh [05:43] fan? [05:45] 109? [05:45] log? [05:45] got me there [05:45] n00bs [05:45] ok 1337 haxor [05:45] what is 109? [05:46] heh. the mint guy is now suddenly running Ubuntu. [05:47] IdleOne: It's secret elite code for "thank you, great one, for your stunning display of knowledge. I bow to your superior skillset." [05:48] I see. [05:48] thanks for the splaination [05:51] rww: uh what's up with that username? [05:51] maco: Which username? [05:51] c0nd0m [05:51] that one isn't so bad [05:52] the bitchslapp one I agree with Flannel was to much [05:52] Someone find a really good troll to pawn off on rww. [05:53] tonyyarusso: a good op manages to find his own fans [05:53] true [05:53] did not mean to imply rww isn't a good op [05:54] double negative [05:54] yeah [07:10] moetunes called the ops in #kubuntu (intelligence level dropped remarkably) [10:23] oh dear, italy is disconnecting :( [10:23] cioa [10:23] ciao [10:23] first the "your youtube video is a tv" regulation, now this: http://punto-informatico.it/3044427/PI/News/internet-italia-burocrazia-non-finisce-mai.aspx [10:24] if you install a router or connect anything else to the internet, you have to hire a certified technician to to it, or suffer 15k to 150k € fines [10:25] sounds poor [10:26] o.O [10:27] does that include making a wifi connection at the local starbucks? :P :P [10:28] ofcourse [10:42] jussi: no, it only includes your own router at home [10:42] topyli: was a joke, but still. crazy. [10:43] so its too hard for someone to plug the thing in? :D [10:43] even crazier to expect italians to pay attention to such a law, they're laid back enough as it is [11:28] they pretty much ignore many laws, as there are so many just to suit Berlusconi [11:28] I still don't get how they could elect that guy three times [11:35] I don't see how the USA could elect Bush twice :) [11:38] you only can be elected twice in the US, proper careers are impossible :( [11:39] which is sensible IMHO [11:40] they changed the law in Italy so Berlusconi could be elected another time [11:40] actually he changed the law [11:40] which is unbelievable in a democracy [11:40] it's rather common to limit it to two terms [11:42] here in Switzerland it is limited to one year :) [11:42] and the vice-president becomes automatically president for a year then [12:17] Mamarok: the swiss presidency is a bit peculiar though isn't it [12:17] like most things swiss :) [12:18] something like a simple chairman of the federal council who goes about their regular job but just talks to press and such duties [12:27] yep [12:27] but in a country with less then 8mn inhabitants that is not a tough job anyway [12:28] at least we don't have idiots who think we should ally with North Korea ;) [15:57] fyi, I banforwarded _techie_ here again, seems that he did the same old away nickspam yesterday. [15:58] And lashed out at nigelb about !away [15:59] why was the ban lifted? [15:59] It wasn't this was in -server. [15:59] + a comma [15:59] he clearly stated in this channel he had no intention of following the rule.....ahhhh [16:00] ok, well he wanted to speak to a -server op. [16:00] guess he got his answer [16:00] Now he might actually get a chance. [16:01] He also ban evade with the nick AuGold and AuGold2 [16:01] in #u [16:02] tsk tsk [16:09] Oh boy, a new spam message. [16:10] very official looking :/ [16:11] [16:17] In #ubuntu, vikramb said: ubottu, yeah grub2 is the default however it has eaten up my vista partition or has marked it as inactive [17:41] I need to step away, watch Muimi in #u [18:49] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ms8j3p appears to be abusive - 6) [20:46] i believe poutine in #ubuntu-offtopic is ban evading (*!*@*trollbot.org) [20:46] h00k's ban [20:46] * rww takes a look [20:48] LjL: fixed, thanks [20:48] takk [21:04] not this guy again [21:04] ikonia: hmm? [21:04] poutine [21:04] Ah, yeah. Quite a history, I noticed >.> [21:17] Ugh, yeah. [21:25] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [21:43] please have someone an eye on meowz in #ubuntu - he tried to create some sort of issue and in PM reacted very unfriendly [21:43] guntbert: will do, thanks [21:43] rww: thx and bye :-) [21:45] (meowz = aborticide) [21:46] i was just banned from #ubuntu, i don't think i did anything wrong [21:47] hang on [21:47] meowz: I banned you for evading a ban that I believe was set by ikonia, so I'll pass off to him. [21:48] rww: perfect timing I was just going to ask about that [21:48] i am not aware of such a ban [21:48] there was a ban that i requested maybe a month ago, that probably expire (which is how i joined the channel) [21:49] bans don't expire [21:49] yes they do, depends on how long the admin sets it for [21:49] the word 'ban' has multiple meanings in practure [21:49] practice* [21:49] I set it [21:49] I don't let bans expire [21:49] they have to be resolved [21:49] i'm not evading it, your ban system is flawed. [21:49] your attitude and behaviour constantly asking for a ban [21:49] meowz: ok, well, we've now resolved that flaw [21:50] you've got some investigating to do, because the only way you can explain the situation is by blaming it on my 'ban evasion' [21:50] meowz: I'll explain it clearly [21:50] please, that's what i'm here for! [21:50] meowz: you (using the nick aborticide) persistantly requested to be banned from #ubuntu [21:50] I banned you [21:50] i'm not using the nick aborticide [21:51] you have circumvented the ban due to a flaw in our system [21:51] meowz: you have used the nick aborticide [21:51] not today [21:51] the name is approved by freenode [21:51] as an account name [21:51] at the time of you requesting the ban, you where using the nick aborticide, [21:51] so we put a ban on while you where using the nick aborticide [21:51] you have changed nicknames and got around the ban [21:51] i have personally spoken with operators about this, it seems there is a communication problem between you and freenode admins [21:51] rww has rectified the issue and re-banned you [21:51] meowz: freenode does not control #ubuntu [21:52] i was not banned for using the nickname [21:52] I've just told you why you where banned [21:52] you persistantly asked to be banned [21:52] i was not banned for using the nickname ... [21:52] meowz: you were banned *while* using that nick, not for the nick. [21:52] so you got banned [21:52] no, you where banned because you kept joining this channel and asking to be banned [21:52] yes [21:52] so you are banned [21:52] please set my ban on my account name [21:52] also IP if possible [21:52] the ban has been updated [21:53] i'd like to make sure it is done correctly this time, or i will go to any measure to harass the channel until it is done [21:53] you behave how you see fit, if you persist with trying to be a proble, it will be escalated to freenode staff, [21:53] but I think we are done here, so please leave the channel [21:53] i am quite familiar with the freenode staff, we have discussions almost daily [21:53] ok, so I think we are done here [21:54] meowz: please leave the channel, [21:54] sigh ... if you wish [21:54] thank you [21:54] remember though, if you don't do it correctly i will not be passive, i will be actively vigilant [21:54] how about just stay out of the channels ? [21:55] how about you fix your decrepit busted system? [21:55] actually, I'm done discussing it, please leave the channel [21:55] you talk robotic i expect you to act robotic too [21:55] ok, bye [21:55] ban me [21:55] please leave the channel [21:55] the matter is not resolved in my opinion [21:55] what else do you need ? [21:55] a working ban system [21:55] meowz: You cannot join #ubuntu right now, how is that unresolved? [21:55] speak to freenode staff [21:56] Flannel: the ban request was for this channel as well [21:56] the ban system is a network issue, talk to freenode staff about it [21:56] meowz: tell you what - I'll let freenode deal with this [21:56] what a _massive_ waste of time [21:56] popey: agreed [21:56] !staff | meowz persistant ban evading [21:56] meowz persistant ban evading: hey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, Pricey, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :) [21:56] the ban is not a soccer issue, should i talk to an astronaught about it? [21:57] i am not ban evading, as i'm not banned from this channel [21:57] meowz: I'd be a lot happier if you weren't perpetually in various -ops channels arguing about whether or not you're ban evading. [21:58] i'm requesting a ban [21:58] is this against the rules? [21:58] it is distracting for me to end up in this channel [21:58] i think a ban from this channel would help us all [21:58] KB1JWQ: I'm not prepared to entertain this behaviour, [21:59] then you're taking your job personally [21:59] follow the protocols, instead of messing with bans just because you don't like someone's style [21:59] ikonia: Your channel, your rules. :-) [22:00] thank you [22:00] I'm not engaging in convesation of that level of time wasting or stupidity [22:00] IdleOne: do +b $a:aborticide [22:00] ikonia: I booted him from ##linux-ops for similar reasons a week ago. [22:00] KB1JWQ: he's hit a few channels [22:00] ikonia: I hadn't noticed. :-p [22:01] remove the other ban Flannel ? [22:01] IdleOne: nah, leave it. I'm assuming he's planning to come back with a different combination of loggedinness, hostname, and nick. [22:02] ok === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:39] I don't think Max_Payne is trolling, just a bit of a language barrier and a misunderstanding of the rules [22:39] robinetd is always quick to call others trolls imo [22:40] to quick [22:40] There's a lot of a language barrier, we've talked in PM (for not bad reasons) when he was named _16bitsubsystem_ [22:47] FrozenFire[work]> jon__, Basically, the issue is that this channel is used by people at work and so on, so unprofessional language is not appreciated. <--- I like that take on it [22:47] it was a good answer [22:47] /explanation [22:47] prevents the usual snark about "think of the children" etc [22:48] !language =~ s/ friendly/-friendly, polite, and professional/ [22:48] In #ubuntu-ops, rww said: !language =~ s/ friendly/-friendly, polite, and professional/ [22:49] * rww throws a . on the end of that. [22:49] !language =~ s/ friendly/-friendly, polite, and professional./ [22:49] I'll remember that bazhang [22:49] !language [22:49] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.. [22:49] !ohmy [22:49] Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [22:50] oh, I'm too smart for my own good. I guess it didn't need a period :S [22:50] whoops [22:50] !language =~ s/ friendly/-friendly, polite, and professional/ [22:50] Nothing changed there [22:50] s/\.\././, or the long way. [22:50] huh? [22:51] heh I'd leave it [22:51] kind of like or else.. [22:51] hehe [22:52] i like this change [23:47] yodawg [23:48] ljl just ragequitted in #ubuntu-offtopic with an offensive message. [23:48] tonyyarusso: Are you around to deal with all this? I'm multitasking with work right now. [23:48] Last time I did that, I was banforwarded to here. [23:49] rww: I saw it, but it was the line before that was against guidelines, not the quit message, and the quit was a self-removal for it, so there's not much to deal with. [23:49] loldoublestandards [23:49] tonyyarusso: So if I say something offensive and part, is that okay? [23:49] Or is that just for ljl? [23:49] robinetd: It's all in the guidelines. [23:50] tonyyarusso: That isn't what I asked. [23:50] It's what you should have asked. [23:50] tonyyarusso: I can't deal with you. I'll wait for someone who is more socially gifted. [23:51] tonyyarusso: Yeah, the "all" included robinetd asking about it ;) [23:51] robinetd: Feel free, but if nobody pops up within a couple of minutes you'll need to /part and try again later. [23:51] tonyyarusso: Excuse me? [23:52] tonyyarusso: I'm not allowed to stay until my problem is addressed by someone that isn't biased? [23:52] robinetd: I will bring it up to ljl and ask that a channel op from -ot talk to him also. [23:52] robinetd: You're the one declaring the bias, which would be a separate issue, so no, you would fall under the idling policy. [23:52] although tonyyarusso is a channel op there [23:53] tonyyarusso: Except I'm not idling, I'd be waiting for my problem to be addressed. [23:53] robinetd: fair enough? [23:53] robinetd: I just addressed it. [23:53] IdleOne: Forget it. I'm done with the double standards and blatant abrasive attitude that I've gotten. [23:53] k then [23:54] indeed [23:54] What just happened? [23:54] he's got that issue in a number of 'social' channels, not just in -ot [23:54] ljl swore and then quit [23:54] well bit more than that [23:54] robinetd feels it unfair that there was no ban set [23:55] that was the only part I saw that would have been a problem [23:55] it was argument about the gpl [23:55] he was gone before I could \n on my !ohmy [23:55] robinetd was blatantly wrong, then accused those of disagreeing with him of 'trolling' [23:56] I am not saying he was right. [23:56] couple weeks back he got a ban for an offensive quit message [23:56] ie in regard to the gpl, not the ban issue [23:56] guess he wants a tit for tat thing [23:56] no idea, just recapping the issue [23:56] <_Techie_> seriously, ive been banned from #ubuntu-server aswell... is anyone able to verify if this is due to my away nick? [23:57] Seems more like wants punishment for people who disagree with him to me, but hey. [23:57] _Techie_: it is [23:57] <_Techie_> oh FFS [23:57] ? [23:57] you were told what the rules are. [23:57] <_Techie_> if i remove my away nick will it satisfy you lot [23:57] <_Techie_> enough to get my bans removed [23:58] if you agree to follow all the guidelines I can remove the ban in #ubuntu [23:58] as for -server that will be up to Pici [23:58] <_Techie_> give me a few minutes to modify my BNC