=== slidinghorn is now known as zz_slidinghorn === zz_slidinghorn is now known as slidinghorn [01:07] cleveland lol = horrid [01:07] i literally saw a 4 way stop with a liquor store on each corner [03:07] Hi everyone. Did everyone have a good thanksgiving [03:07] yeppers [03:07] totally dmcglone1 [03:07] happy turky day all [03:07] hey paultag [03:07] anyone use synergy? [03:08] I don't [03:08] nopers [03:09] k [03:09] I've been kickin it with KDE since last night.. LOL [03:09] sweet :) [03:10] brb [03:10] I'm on GNOME, but I'm switching to Xfce or Fluxbox at somepoint soonish [03:10] I gotta say KDE is looking so darn good [03:10] I am really surprised [03:11] so far, the only problem i'm having is it's not retaining my dual monitor setting. It keeps going back to a single monitor setup if I reboot or log out [03:12] so thats 1 for Gnome [03:18] I need to get the art of computer programming volumes 1 2 and 3 [03:18] but it is just so fucking expensive [03:19] have you checked amazon? [03:19] dmcglone1: yeah, 140+ bucks for the set [03:19] woah [03:19] and that's not *that* bad [03:19] it's just I don't want to shell it out [03:19] I know what you mean [03:20] dmcglone1: they're the fundemental books for anything [03:20] dmcglone1: and all hardcover and huge [03:20] they're very in-demand [03:20] Dr. Knuth [03:20] I wonder if I should get some of my professor's books [03:20] sometimes I'm afraid to buy books because I don't know what they'll be like [03:21] +1 dmcglone1 [03:21] I've bought programming books that I was pissed that I had bought [03:22] +1 dmcglone1, for sure, for sure [03:22] I've got some real crap-sandwiches [03:22] but others have been *gold& [03:22] *gold* * [03:22] yeah true [03:23] Oh shit, I found one of my professor's books [03:23] http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Software-Engineering-Hands--Approach/dp/0130473812/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290741770&sr=8-1 [03:24] I could pick it up for a twenty-spot [03:25] that....was.....NOT..... goood! [03:25] dmcglone1: what went wrong? [03:26] have no clue, my window manager just blew away along with kicker [03:26] shit [03:26] that's no good [03:26] had to log out and back in [03:26] dmcglone1: damn dude [03:26] *cough*fluxbox*cough* [03:26] lol [03:27] I should get a girlfriend again [03:27] I think I found the culprit [03:27] then she can buy me books as gifts now and again [03:27] that would rule. [03:27] dmcglone1: yeah? what? [03:27] compiz [03:27] ahha [03:27] Damn, I should rock out an LFS build again. [03:28] here's a book you can't miss: http://www.amazon.com/Code-Language-Computer-Hardware-Software/dp/0735611319/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290742065&sr=8-1 [03:28] I'm gonna see if I can re-produce it. I'm on the laptop, but it works flawlessly on the desktop [03:28] * canthus13 has a first printing, with dust jacket intact. :) Readin' through it again. [03:28] is it good canthus13? [03:28] paultag: It's a must-read. [03:29] canthus13: Well, shit. I need to start building up a library [03:29] paultag: It's also not in danger of being obsolete any time soon. It's a great primer on programming... from the transistor on up. [03:30] Ah I found the culprit. it was the "blur" in compiz couldn't be found [03:30] canthus13: hummm [03:30] paul [03:30] hey Navirio [03:31] girl may = books but she also = hassles and the cost of sustaining her would out weigh the books [03:31] so investment denied [03:31] girls don't give papercuts, do give other nice things... ;P [03:31] canthus13: +1 there my man [03:31] canthus13: I was trying to phrase it in a nice way [03:32] +s do not out weigh negatives [03:32] Navirio: I disagree [03:32] no one said you could? [03:32] Navirio: ... [03:33] i know [03:33] im messing with you [03:33] :) [03:33] also http://www.tomshardware.com/news/delorean-hard-drive-HDD-Back-to-the-Future-bttf,11707.html best thing i ever saw [03:33] 21 in like 7 days XD [03:33] Fuckin' power supply for my lappy blew out. Luckily, I have a spare. [03:34] did u see that paul? [03:34] Navirio: good man, good man [03:34] Navirio: grats [03:34] i ment the delorian hdd [03:35] and on the whole to women or not to women this is my view [03:35] I have to assume that there's an evolutionary advantage to having a brain which keenly remembers the bourbon-soaked magic carpet ride, but not its puke-on-the-shoes, please-God-help-me-find-my-car aftermath. The same holds true for romantic relationships. The dreamy, eye-gazing moment of transcendent intimacy is recalled with perfect clarity, while the sleepless nights on a bed with enough room between th [03:35] so not matter what we all will end up back in the situations [03:35] Navirio: haha that hdd rocks [03:35] i want it badly [03:36] the doors and hood work i did not see if the wheels did [03:36] but if they do it is like 100% happening [03:36] paultag: But yeah. If you get a chance to check out that book, it's a good read. [03:37] canthus13: I need to put together a list somewhere of books I need [03:37] which one? the one by mr knuth? [03:37] i have a list 2 paul [03:37] Navirio: Dr. Knuth to you, fuckdamnit [03:37] did my ssh question show up? apparently my connection to xchat timed out for some reason [03:37] Navirio: yeah? Anything good on it? [03:37] shhhhhhh i will call him what i want [03:37] Cheri703: nopers :) [03:37] Navirio: http://www.amazon.com/Code-Language-Computer-Hardware-Software/dp/0735611319/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290742065&sr=8-1 [03:37] :( trying again [03:37] probably alot of the same as u paul [03:37] what is the procedure for "ssh into computer a from computer b, start program and have it output onto computer a" basically the counterpart of ssh -x, where the x is happening on the initial computer...not sure how to do that [03:38] Cheri703: X forwarding. [03:38] Cheri703: ssh user@host "command and args" > foo [03:38] command and args? [03:38] Cheri703: ssh user@host "ls /" > hosts-directory-list [03:38] but mostly things i cannot find at x location and do not want to read in pdf form such as knuths book series which im 2 lazy to type out [03:38] Cheri703: Basically, you ssh -x. then execute the program [03:38] I can do ssh -x, which brings info from desktop to netbook, but I want to type "command blah" and have it show up on the desktop [03:39] what is hosts-directory-list? [03:39] Cheri703: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html [03:39] * Cheri703 is kind of learning this stuff piecemeal [03:39] Cheri703: the output of ls on computer b ( on computer a ) [03:39] Cheri703: That tutorial is a bit old, but relevant. [03:39] Cheri703: Ohhh, X output [03:39] yeah, sorry [03:39] Cheri703: I thought you ment stdout [03:40] Cheri703: in that case, canthus13 is super right [03:40] well, if I ssh -X, it shows up on the netbook [03:40] I want the visual side to output on the desktop [03:40] * Cheri703 uses ssh -X often [03:40] Oh. You want the program you execute over ssh to appear on the computer you're ssh'd into. you'd need to forward it to the local display (:0) [03:41] soooort of a remote desktop thing [03:41] yes [03:41] ok [03:41] +1 Cheri703 [03:41] that's what I'm trying to figure out how to do [03:41] erm canthus13 [03:41] export DISPLAY [03:41] but that opens up the X11 session over TCP [03:41] Like when I send a popup to my kid's computer telling him to go to bed. [03:41] you can do a port forward hack via ssh then export there [03:41] Right? [03:41] I think? [03:41] no no canthus13 [03:42] Basically, I ssh into his machine, then use zenity to throw a popup. [03:42] Nevermind [03:42] Cheri703: try export DISPLAY=:0.0 [03:42] Cheri703: and then start it [03:42] some context: I'm trying to use Synergy. I have it set up and working. I'd like to be able to start the client side (on my desktop) from my netbook [03:42] ok [03:42] paultag: once ssh'd? [03:42] Cheri703: yeah, no -x needed [03:42] ok [03:44] awesome! [03:45] I can now move my mouse over and control desktop without having to remote desktop into it :D :D [03:45] swweet [03:45] Cheri703: Zenity is fun... Can be a bit hairy when you throw windows in the mix.. I used to do it at work when they still let us bring our laptops... Every once in a while, the mouse pointer would just disappear in the limbo between screens... [03:45] canthus13: you were totally right, I was totally wrong :) [03:46] paultag: You communicated it better than me, tho. :) [03:46] now to write a script to do this automatically! [03:46] * canthus13 used to use zenity to prank people, too. move his mouse onto the screen of the guy next to him, start typing stuff. :) [03:47] I do want to find out about that, it'd be handy if it can pop up over my husband's games! /me hates it when he doesn't answer his phone because his gunshots are too loud -_- [03:47] Only worked if I could get in to work before him and start before he had a chance to do anything. [03:48] Cheri703: Can't really use it when they're already working, I don't think... If I remember right,y ou only get one pointer/keyboard between the machines. [03:48] Cheri703: why are you calling him from the other room? LOL [03:48] ah, ok [03:48] because he's annoying [03:48] Cheri703: root his box, use something like back orfice to screw with him. [03:48] so instead of communicating with him face to face you call him instead? LOL [03:49] * canthus13 ssh's into his wife's machine and ejects the drive once in a while. [03:49] because sometimes the door is shut and he has headphones on and he keeps them turned WAAAAAY up, and I don't feel like getting up [03:49] lol [03:49] * Cheri703 used to im her roommate when both were in adjacent bedrooms and both doors were open [03:49] * canthus13 gets rather annoyed when his wife IMs him from across the room. [03:50] I do too canthus [03:50] can I just say that synergy is AWESOME [03:50] I haven't had a keyboard/mouse connected to desktop for a while, and I've been having to vnc into it EVERYTIME I needed to do anything. this will make my life SO MUCH EASIER [03:50] dmcglone1: At least your wife has a bit of an excuse... You're deaf. :P [03:51] * canthus13 doesn't mind so much if he has earbuds in. [03:55] ok, so I am trying to write a script to automate this synergy stuff [03:56] I'll be back [03:56] * Cheri703 is EXTREMELY NEW to scripting stuff [03:56] I don't think I've got the syntax right [04:00] * dmcglone1 is wondering why compiz works fine in gnome, but crappy in kde [04:00] because kde is crap. [04:01] canthus13: are you good with writing bash scripts? [04:01] Nope. :( [04:02] paultag: any good at bash scripts? [04:03] Cheri703: yes ma'am [04:03] Cheri703: what's up [04:04] trying to write a script to make the synergy junk start on its own (or as close to it as possible) [04:04] steps needed: run a command locally, ssh, do the export display, run a command on remote computer [04:04] Cheri703: just write down every command as you would put it in a terminal [04:04] not sure of the syntax [04:04] I did that :/ [04:04] Cheri703: ssh will block [04:04] block? [04:04] Cheri703: put the script on computer B, then run it from A [04:05] Cheri703: so on B put all the commands you will run inside ssh there [04:05] well, I've run a script that contained "ssh blah blah program" and it runs it on its own [04:05] Cheri703: then start it by running ssh user@host "~/script.sh" [04:05] Cheri703: yeah [04:05] ahh, ok [04:05] that makes sense then [04:05] Cheri703: but you can't give it tons of stuff to run easy. I'd just put that script on the remote box and run it over ssh [04:05] k [04:07] AWESOME! [04:07] Cheri703: rock on :) [04:08] so now I can make a launcher, and after typing in my password, I will have synergy working :D :D [04:08] Cheri703: if you use a ssh key you won't need to type a password [04:08] see, I did that in the past, and when I had to reinstall, it broke [04:08] so I just type in the pw [04:08] Cheri703: they keys are cheep to do :) [04:08] true... [04:09] hmm...k [04:09] I might do that [04:09] Cheri703: then you can put it in the gnome menu [04:12] when it talks about setting up the key, it talks about setting it up on the client computer and the remote computer, in this context, client = desktop, remote = netbook, yes? [04:15] ah, nvm [04:22] paultag: some of the documentation suggests turning off password authentication, so hackers can't jack with it, but..what if I need to ssh from another computer? [04:24] and do you suggest having a passphrase or no? [04:26] Cheri703: You could just use fail2ban. Then, as long as your password is strong, nobody's going to brute-force it. [04:26] I have no idea what fail2ban is [04:27] Cheri703: It monitors logins, and locks out IPs that fail login a set number of times. [04:27] ah, that's kind of awesome [04:27] it will then automagically unlock them after a specified amount of time, so you don't screw yourself. [04:28] awesome [04:28] is fail2ban gui or cli? [04:28] Cheri703: cli [04:29] :| ok [04:29] it's a daemon. It can be configured to monitor all sorts of different servers, not just ssh. [04:29] how do I run it? and/or set it up? [04:29] Cheri703: You can just install it and forget it. the defaults are pretty sane. Lock out ssh for an offending IP after 5 tries for 15 minutes. [04:29] * Cheri703 just installed it [04:29] ok [04:29] Cheri703: apt-get install fail2ban [04:29] did that [04:29] it [04:29] Now, fail login a few times and see if it's working. :) [04:30] it'll just run on its own? do I have to start it in some way? [04:30] ok [04:30] It should run on it's own. [04:30] k [04:30] * canthus13 doesn't recall needing to do anything special on install. [04:30] I tweaked the config a bit, but it's not necessary. [04:31] Ot [04:32] bah. fingers on the wrong keys. [04:33] Oh no, cherri is gone [04:34] I'm sure she'll be back... [04:34] :) [04:34] word [04:34] I was eating more [04:34] God I'm such a fatass today [04:34] heyya Cheri703 [04:34] sorry I missed you [04:34] didd you get your stuff set up? [04:34] I was eating moar [04:35] np, I'm good :) canthus13 helped me out [04:35] awesome [04:35] VERY awesome [04:35] you should check out synergy [04:35] * canthus13 just discovered that he can set fail2ban to ignore certain IPs. :) [04:35] it's pretty sweet [04:35] hells yeah [04:36] Even better... It'll ignore entire CIDR masks. :) [04:36] I don't even know what that is canthus13 [04:37] Cheri703: like 192.168.1.0/24 [04:37] ah, ok [04:37] that represents all IPs that match the first 24 bits of the address. [04:37] gotcha [04:37] So you can tell it to ignore screwups inside your network. [04:38] heh [04:38] now I have to wait 15 min until I can mess with this anymore -_- [04:38] good that it works, bummer that I have to wait :) [04:38] I gather it works. :) [04:39] yep [04:39] how do I configure it? [04:39] Of course, you could always ssh into a different machine, and then on to the machine that locked you out. Or you could change your IP. [04:39] Cheri703: http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/using-fail2ban-to-prevent-brute-force-attacks/ [04:40] I can remote desktop in [04:40] awesome, thanks [04:40] well, I think so [04:40] Not if you're running RDP over ssh... [04:41] nah, I got in [04:45] Woo! it's all working properly [04:45] * Cheri703 is happy now [04:46] Good. :) === slidinghorn is now known as zz_slidinghorn === zz_slidinghorn is now known as slidinghorn [15:35] Morning all. [15:38] hi [15:41] Hey, Cheri703. How's it been? [15:41] home life: ok, work life: dumb, but doing alright overall :) [15:48] what have you been up to? [15:55] Cheri703: not very much. Sorry about not answering. I got locked into a paper I was writing. [15:55] Glad to hear you're doing well though. [15:55] Are you back at work now? [15:55] np, writing papers is important! [15:55] nope [15:55] today I relax [15:59] Cheri703: yes, yes. It's late. I'm hoping that because the professor likes me, he'll let me off. [15:59] Cheri703: that's awesome though. Planning on any shoppin? [15:59] *shopping [16:02] ah, good luck with the paper! not planning to leave the house if I can help it [16:07] Cheri703: I know the feeling. This whole Black Friday thing passes me by. [16:08] yeah, there was like one thing I liked at walmart, and it was $10, and it wasn't worth the effort [17:25] hi everyone [17:26] hi [17:29] so did u have a good thanksgiving? [17:29] I did, and yourself? [17:30] yeah it wast bad at all [17:30] that's good [17:31] so what part of ohio r u from? [17:31] Mansfield, you? [17:31] i was from lorain county, but now i live in morgantown west virginia [17:32] that's cool [17:32] i miss ohio bigtime [17:32] if they had jobs like they used to i might move back there [17:33] yeah, I'm looking for a new job, and my husband is looking for A job [17:34] i got laid off from the coal mines here i was making 21.73/hr now i work at mon general hospital as a janitor making 8.89/hr [17:34] dang [17:35] well ill c u later on,nice talking to u [17:36] have a good day [17:36] u to === zz_slidinghorn is now known as slidinghorn === zz_slidinghorn is now known as slidinghorn === zz_slidinghorn is now known as slidinghorn