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CIA-42[muon] jmthomas * 1201163 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/HistoryView/ (HistoryProxyModel.cpp HistoryView.cpp) Implement filtering history by text, as well as proper recursive filtering in general00:08
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CIA-42[muon] jmthomas * 1201178 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/HistoryView/ (HistoryView.cpp HistoryView.h) Add a GUI For searching and filtering history. The history view is now complete01:36
JontheEchidnahttp://i.imgur.com/GiPvJ.png01:37
JontheEchidnaI'll add that to regular Muon, too.01:39
valorienice, JontheEchidna02:10
valoriewhen will muon hit the regular distribution?02:10
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JontheEchidnavalorie: The muon package manager is already in 10.10. The Muon Software Center will be in the 11.04 timeframe02:33
valorie cool!02:34
valorieoh right, I think I did download and use that before my big crash/reinstall sitch02:34
valoriestill finding packages I'm missing now and then02:34
valoriekpackagekit is performing well02:35
valoriefor the first time ever, for me02:35
valorieI actually trust it02:35
valorieknock on wood02:35
JontheEchidnaheh02:35
valorieour tools are so much better than the gnome ones02:35
valoriehow do people deal with that ubuntu soft. center?02:36
valorieugh, it was horrible02:36
valoriethat was a bad day in gnome hell.....02:36
valorielol02:36
JontheEchidnawhat do you find inconvenient about the ubuntu software center?02:37
JontheEchidnaor bad or whatever :P02:37
valoriesearching was very weak02:37
valorieof course I don't know gnome packagenames/app names well02:38
valorieI'm sure that was part of it02:38
valoriebut my son installed ubuntu, and I tried to install kub. desktop through gnome02:38
valorieit was a disaster02:38
valoriereally messed up the plasma desktop02:39
valorieI just do not like gnome, and maybe it's prejudice02:39
valoriebut I don't like it, and can't get used to it02:39
valorieKDE <302:39
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claydohvalorie: +1 I cannot live with gnome for more than a week, but there is no valid reason why I don't like it03:14
valorieI've never lasted over a day03:15
valorielol03:15
valorieit's like smells -- why do you love one flower, and hate the scent of another?03:15
valoriewho knows, you just do03:15
valorieI have nothing *against* gnome03:16
valorieor gnome users03:16
claydohditto03:16
claydohI have been nthis way since 200003:17
nigelball of valorie's statements hold true for me for KDE (err, why I dont like it that is)03:17
valorieclaydoh: me a year or two later03:18
valoriesince win2Kpro was OK03:18
valoriethat was the last win I used03:18
claydohwin ME was the last one I purchased, tho I use XP at work03:19
claydohkde 1.something was my first, tho 2.2 is when I went full time Linux03:20
valorieMe was so awful03:21
valorieI was ready to give up windows then03:21
valoriebut I'm really not smart/techie enough to use linux that long ago03:22
valorieit's gotten so much easier to use, I can usually handle it without much help03:22
valoriethank goodness03:22
claydohI actually had a good experience with ME, probably the only one so lucky03:22
valorieheh, I think so03:22
valorieit just crashed ALL THE TIME03:23
valorieso annoying!03:23
claydohI have managed to go 11 years without compiling a kernel outside of the one time I did just to see how it was done03:23
valoriei've never compiled a kernel03:24
valorieyikes03:24
valoriecompiling amarok and phonon-vlc is enough03:24
claydoh:) my point is that even that long ago it wasn't a requirement03:26
valorieright, but I didn't know enough to even upgrade Mandrake without help at first03:29
valorieand was a big fail with gentoo03:29
valoriedidn't like ubuntu03:29
valorieloved Kub., but even that needed help reinstalling and such03:29
valorieuntil the last time around03:29
claydohI don't remeber that  far back (mandrake 7) and gentoo on a 233 pentium 1 took about 3 days or was it four? of 24/7 building03:30
claydohI used Lycoris for a while, on of the early single-cd easy-to-install distros03:31
claydohupdates/upgrades were fairly easy there, but it was being built on and already-old  platform 03:32
valoriemy son was my guide -- I just wasn't/am not knowledgeable enough03:43
valorieat least now I know what I like, and don't03:43
* maco adds craftopolis.com to mental list of sites that dont work with rekonq07:01
maco(is there a somewhat-more-physical list somewhere?)07:01
* bulldog98 has an problem with qtwebkit, I think there went something wrong with the -dev package09:10
Riddellbulldog98: yes qtwebkit is broken :(10:01
bulldog98Riddell: :(10:02
ulyssesI got my Kubuntu 6.06 and 7.04 CDs \o/10:03
bulldog98ulysses: omg10:03
ulysseshowever my first Kubuntu was Gutsy, but now somebody sent me these for free10:04
Riddellulysses: that shipit service gets slower all the time10:05
ulysses:P10:05
Riddellbulldog98: it's not finding the right include path is the current problem10:05
Riddellbulldog98: is that what you're seeint?10:05
Riddellseeing10:05
bulldog98Riddell: yep10:05
bulldog98searches under /buildd/…10:05
Riddellbulldog98: oh it shouldn't do that any more10:32
Riddellbulldog98: what version of libqtwebkit-dev do you have?10:32
bulldog98Riddell: that was before my last upgrade now it says: In file included from /home/jonathan/Develop/rekonq/mainline/src/application.cpp:34:0:                                                                                                                     10:39
bulldog98/home/jonathan/Develop/.build/rekonq/mainline/src/rekonq.h:9:20: fatal error: QtWebKit: No such file or directory10:39
bulldog98compilation terminated.10:39
bulldog98Riddell: version: 2.1~git20101116-0ubuntu610:40
Riddellmeh, that makes no sense10:46
Riddell QT_QTWEBKIT_INCLUDE_DIR          QT_QTWEBKIT_INCLUDE_DIR-NOTFOUND10:52
Riddellthat's probably it10:52
Riddellbut I don't know why that isn't set10:52
Riddellyes works fine if I add -DQT_QTWEBKIT_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/QtWebKit/10:54
Riddellbulldog98: ah hah10:58
Riddellmv /usr/include/QtWebKit/ /usr/include/qt4/QtWebKit/10:58
Riddellthat could well be it10:58
bulldog98Riddell: I’ll try that10:58
bulldog98Riddell: heureka10:59
bulldog98Riddell: that’s it10:59
bulldog98+Riddell11:00
* bulldog98 can compile rekonq again11:00
Riddellok qtwebkit uploadeded to natty, 7th time lucky I hope11:09
ulyssesRiddell: how many advocates need to accept a revu?11:24
bulldog98Riddell: how do I make debuild use multiple processes?11:25
ari-tczewulysses: 211:27
ulyssesI've got three \o/11:28
Riddellbulldog98: dunno, I just kill the debuild after it has got through cmake, cd obj-<tab>; make -j211:28
ari-tczewulysses: so your package should be uploaded11:28
Riddellbulldog98: if you notice qtwebkit-source 2.1~git20101116-0ubuntu7 getting into the archive do click retry on kde4libs in kubuntu-ninjas11:29
* Riddell out11:29
ulyssesari-tczew: that needs an Archive Admin, right?11:30
ari-tczewulysses: yes. do you have an open bug for [needs-packaging] ?11:30
ulysseshm, not yet11:30
ari-tczewulysses: so open new bug, write there that you have 3 advocates and subscribe ubuntu-archive. could you give me link to your revu page with advocated package?11:32
ulyssesari-tczew: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/hupnp11:33
ari-tczewulysses: do you have fixed debfx's advices?11:35
ulyssesari-tczew: yes11:35
debfxari-tczew: every MOTU can upload new packages, why would you subscribe ubuntu-archive?11:36
debfxulysses: not all (version number and qtsolution package)11:36
ari-tczewdebfx: ah, right. archive admin will review package from queue as NEW. ok, my wrong. ulysses, you need to find a sponsor.11:37
yofelbulldog98: pass '-j<num>' to dpkg-buildpackage according to the manpage debuild -j<num> should work - or set DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS11:42
bulldog98yofel: thanks11:45
freeflyingRiddell: you there?13:49
Riddellfreeflying: hi14:56
Riddellroar, qtwebkit headers still not right15:05
Riddellhumph humph humph15:05
freeflyingRiddell: any possible to ship more wallpaper by default, like only one size for each one?15:45
Riddellfreeflying: what would you remove to allow that?15:49
Riddellwallpapers really aren't important especially since there is a "Get New Wallpapers" button to download them from the internet15:49
freeflyingRiddell: what about if a people doesn't have internet connection or crapping connection to kde-look.org?15:52
freeflyingRiddell: like if we just ship all wallpaper in biggest size, then we can have all of them15:53
Riddellfreeflying: the large sizes (which are widescreen so won't look good on non-widescreen monitors) of wallpapers in kdebase are 11MB15:57
Riddellthat's two languages15:57
Riddellspecifically for maverick that would mean losing russian and chinese15:57
freeflyingRiddell: there is no Chinese in maverick CD15:59
freeflying:)15:59
Riddellzh-hans is on the kubuntu desktop CD according to the seeds16:12
apacheloggerRiddell: no more languages on the CD16:29
apacheloggerfreeflying: that is when one should use the DVD16:29
freeflyingapachelogger: maybe its a good chance to convince Canonical ship dvd or dvd image by default :)16:46
freeflyingRiddell: it won't show even the menu in Chinese when you boot up by choosing Chinese as language16:46
apacheloggerfreeflying: our plan was to bring DVD up on par with CD experience first17:14
* apachelogger thinks that CD for download-only makes sense since it is small and if one had internet access to get the CD one probably also has internet access to install additional foo that is not on the CD (such as l10n)17:15
apacheloggerDVD OTOH allows for distribution of a lot more languages, and if one gets a DVD the need for internet access to get sensible user experiences approaches 017:16
apacheloggerRiddell: we want http://gitorious.org/phonon/phonon/commit/171b1c677852083a8ca803671145afbc2f51f272 http://gitorious.org/phonon/phonon/commit/211f1d0269de59238754df6ab147f2fdea63fba217:18
Riddellapachelogger: your phonon hacking is getting impressively elite17:18
* apachelogger blushes17:19
* apachelogger ate too many satsumas...18:10
Riddellimpossible, can't be done18:11
Riddellbest thing about winter is satsumas18:12
skfinBest thing about winter is rolling on snow after sauna18:15
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah, like until you ate 1kg of them :P18:15
* apachelogger is out of proper food18:15
apacheloggermhhh, there is still coffee from breakfast \o/18:16
* Riddell spots another Finn in the channel18:19
* skfin has found out that outreach is not that crap that everybody thinks it is18:21
apacheloggergood thing I am the only austrian in the village18:21
Riddellskfin: how did you find that out?18:21
skfinBy working on my gci task18:22
Riddellskfin: what's that?18:22
skfinGoogle Code-In18:22
RiddellI know, what's the task?18:22
skfinAmarok conference poster :D18:23
droidslayerLolwhut...18:23
droidslayerskfin: seriously??18:25
apacheloggerthat reminds me that Nightrose did not yet harass me for fluffy codeins today :P18:25
skfindroidslayer: Yeah?18:26
* Nightrose fluffys apachelogger18:26
apacheloggerNightrose: codein task: go to $freesoftware-conference-near-you and sell fluffy to some big corporation for a billion billion billion?18:26
Nightrose.-.18:26
Riddellskfin: how about this with amarok coders in place of the boy band? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1a9CsvCb_NI/SPUK7mbYeqI/AAAAAAAAAps/6sEO8kybdrc/s400/East-17-The-Very-Best-Of-315178.jpg18:26
Nightrose-.-18:26
apacheloggerhm18:27
apacheloggerI suppose that means you do not like it18:27
apacheloggerno one likes my tasks :'(18:27
droidslayerskfin: amarok poster for 'code' in task....18:27
skfindroidslayer: Google Code-In has many type of tasks18:27
skfinEverything is not about code18:28
apacheloggeralso fregl is too busy to hug people and bring fluffyness to the world :'(18:28
droidslayerapachelogger: did you see the new minion???18:28
apacheloggerno18:28
droidslayerskfin: oh... didn't know18:28
apacheloggeris he mine?18:28
droidslayerRiddell: T18:28
droidslayerBag...18:29
skfindroidslayer: Code, Documentation, Outreach, Quality Assurance, Research, Training, Translation and user interface18:29
apacheloggeror is he not yet ready to become minion of the phantom of the channel?18:29
droidslayerStupid phone...18:29
apacheloggerdroidslayer: I told you....18:29
apacheloggeryou did not listen to me18:29
apacheloggerthat is what you get for that18:29
droidslayerapachelogger: Riddell is training him iirc18:29
apacheloggerah, ok, cool18:30
droidslayerapachelogger: it just needs love...18:30
apacheloggerso, I can steal him once trained enough :D :D :D :D18:30
droidslayerYep :P18:30
droidslayerAnyways.. Im at OSS camp..18:30
apacheloggeryou are becoming sound developer?18:31
droidslayerWell..no.. open source software camp18:31
apacheloggeroh18:31
apacheloggergreetings to oss camp18:31
apacheloggeralso if we had a kubotu around I would send cookies18:32
apacheloggerbut since jussi took the bot away from me...18:32
droidslayerapachelogger: I now actually know a PA maintainer BTW18:32
RiddellPA maintainer?18:33
droidslayerPulse audio18:33
apacheloggeroh righty18:33
apacheloggerjussi: I shall require some ruby package18:39
apacheloggernot sure which one18:40
droidslayerI just wish this thing had a physical keyboard18:40
droidslayerApart from that ... its a pretty good phone18:40
droidslayerapachelogger: did you get your n900??18:40
apacheloggerdroidslayer: no, Nightrose is being busy :)18:41
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droidslayerAh..:)18:44
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apacheloggerjussi: libdb-ruby1.8 it seems18:46
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apacheloggerhail kubotu18:55
apacheloggerkubotu: order cookies, xmas18:55
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to apachelogger and shouts: Happy whatever -.-18:55
apacheloggerkubotu: are you broken?18:55
apacheloggerah18:55
apacheloggerslow18:56
apacheloggerkubotu: do you know the meaning of life?19:01
apacheloggeryeah, didnt think so19:01
DarkwingDuckwhat powers kubotu?19:04
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jtechidnaDarkwingDuck: rbot19:08
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DarkwingDuckJontheEchidna: OSS?19:10
JontheEchidnathere's a public git repo: http://ruby-rbot.org/19:10
DarkwingDuckthanks.19:11
apacheloggerkubotu: arent you supposed to be all markov?19:11
macoapachelogger: non-responding bot? that's working great...19:15
apacheloggerI blame it all on jussi19:16
apacheloggerkubotu: order beer19:16
* kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer.19:16
bulldog98Riddell: I’ve finished building kdepim-runtime 4.5.80 and i’ve got some missing files19:16
macohaha19:16
bulldog98http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/22219:17
Riddellbulldog98: great19:18
bulldog98Riddell: the icons, should I include them?19:19
Riddellso now the slow work is working out in which package each of those files should go19:19
Riddellcheck debian/not-installed for anything which shouldn't be included19:19
Riddellbut otherwise everything should go into a .install file19:19
bulldog98Riddell: ok19:19
* bulldog98 is doing a verification build to be sure he did everything right19:38
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bulldog98Riddell: should I take the dbus-1 stuff out of the package, because there was an xml file added20:10
Riddellbulldog98: what dbus-1 stuff?20:18
bulldog98Riddell: this is already in ./usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.Akonadi.Maildir.Settings.xml20:18
bulldog98should I add ./usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.Akonadi.MixedMaildir.Settings.xml ?20:19
bulldog98in not-installed20:19
Riddellbulldog98: "this is already in" not-installed or in somewhere else?20:20
bulldog98in not-installed20:20
Riddellbulldog98: put the other dbus .xml files in not-installed too then, they usually aren't needed (only occationally for development purposes do other packages need them)20:20
bulldog98Riddell: ok20:21
bulldog98Riddell: an other question there were some .so’s in not-installed should I add all libarys that don’t have an .so.4…?20:22
bulldog98eg /usr/lib/NAME.so20:22
Riddellbulldog98: /usr/lib/NAME.so if /usr/lib/NAME.so.x.x.x doesn't exist means it's an unversioned library rather than a developer symlink to a versioned library (check if it's a symlink or not to be sure)20:25
Riddellin which case we do want it20:25
Riddellalthough poking upstream not to add unversioned libraries would be a good idea too20:25
Riddellbulldog98: it /usr/lib/NAME.so.x.x.x does exist then /usr/lib/NAME.so is a developer symlink and it's only needed if another package builds against that library, which probably isn't the case with kdepim-runtime20:26
Riddells/it/if/20:26
kubotuRiddell meant: "bulldog98: if /usr/lib/NAME.so.x.x.x does exist then /usr/lib/NAME.so is a developer symlink and it's only needed if another package builds against that library, which probably isn't the case with kdepim-runtime"20:26
Riddellumm, right, thanks kubotu 20:26
Riddells/kubotu/twonkle/20:27
kubotuRiddell meant: "umm, right, thanks twonkle"20:27
* maco giggles20:28
bulldog98Riddell: they have quite a few unversioned libaries in there20:29
bulldog98Riddell: 19 to be correct20:30
Riddellbulldog98: if they're in /usr/lib/kde4/  then it's a plugin and that's not ment to be versioned20:31
apacheloggeroh, I love kubotu20:32
bulldog98Riddell: yep all in /usr/lib/kde4/20:32
bulldog98~karma apachelogger20:32
kubotukarma for apachelogger: 1020:32
* apachelogger is wondering why drunken friends always call him if I wants to join them getting wasted20:32
bulldog98apachelogger: lol20:32
bulldog98Riddell: so I finished kdepim-runtime (where to commit?)20:33
Riddellbulldog98: awesome20:33
bulldog98Riddell: thanks20:33
Riddellbulldog98: bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu if you haven't alrady20:34
Riddellcommit locally20:34
Riddellbzr push lp:~<lpid>/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu-4.620:34
Riddellthen I'll review and merge in20:34
Riddellalso upload to kubuntu-ninjas with ~ppa120:34
ulysses_Riddell: hupnp hase three advocates, ready for upload!20:35
Riddellulysses_: great, will do in a bit20:44
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bulldog98Riddell: I messed the changelog up. Do I have to fix that?20:49
Riddellbulldog98: emacs :)20:52
bulldog98Riddell: I allready vimed it :)20:53
Riddellok, what's the problem?20:53
bulldog98Riddell: I had the ~ppa1 in the changelog that’s all20:54
bulldog98now it’s fixed20:54
bulldog98Riddell: shall I do the propose for merging action?20:55
Riddellbulldog98: go for it20:55
* apachelogger loves how x makes his system freeze beyond repair and causes data loss20:56
bulldog98Riddell: done20:58
amichairthere are a bunch of people asking in #kubuntu about kde 4.6 beta packaging/PPA, is there anything to tell them?21:25
apacheloggeramichair: WIP21:28
apachelogger& will be announced on kubuntu.org once ready21:28
amichairapachelogger: cool, thanks21:29
yofelRiddell: anything left to do for 4.6 I could help with? got some free time21:29
apacheloggersee todo up above21:30
Riddellyofel: all of maverick21:30
Riddellyofel: which I mostly expect to just need recompiled for maverick21:32
yofelRiddell: any way I can help there without access to the ninjas ppa?21:32
Riddellyofel: I can give you access to ninjas easily enough21:32
yofelthen I'll be glad to help21:32
Riddellwhat's your launchpad id?21:33
yofel~yofel21:33
bulldog98Riddell: will we ship kdepim 4.4.7 with natty or will we test kdepim 4.6 and choose after that?21:33
Riddellbulldog98: we'll be cautious.  we'll test 4.6 and if it all has no problems at all we'll consider going with that but any hint of a problem and we'll go with 4.4.721:34
RiddellI need to e-mail the list about my meeting with kolabsys21:35
bulldog98Riddell: ok so 4.6 will go to experimental I guess first21:35
Riddellyes21:35
Riddellyofel: you're in21:36
Riddellyofel: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa says that the build-dependencies are already in21:36
Riddellso kde4libs is next21:36
yofelRiddell: thanks, so testbuilding for maverick and uploading to ninjas if it builds fine?21:37
Riddellquestion is should you use the natty packaging and make any changes needed for maverick or use the maverick packaging with all the updating for 4.6 again21:37
apacheloggerformer21:37
RiddellI /think/ it'll be ok to use the natty packaging21:37
Riddelland if apachelogger agrees then that's good enough for me21:38
apacheloggerwhich reminds me that I need to come up with a mass branching script21:38
Riddellyofel: use a -0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 version number21:38
yofelok21:38
Riddellyofel: keep the maverick table in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging updated21:38
Riddellyofel: are you ok for local machines or do you need machines to test build on?21:38
yofelI've got a pbuilder setup for natty and maverick here, do I need anything else?21:39
Riddellprobably not21:39
bulldog98Riddell: did you reviewed the mergerequest by now? https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu-4.6/+merge/4202421:39
Riddellalthough once the base packages are done I could set up a load of EC2 machines to do the rest in parallel21:40
Riddellbulldog98: onto it21:40
yofelk, I'll see how kde4libs fares for now21:40
Riddellbulldog98: "updated the patch to fit to the new release" could you change that to include the patch filename?21:42
bulldog98Riddell: ok21:43
Riddellit's very useful to be able to grep a changelog for the patch filename21:43
bulldog98Riddell: is that line to long:21:47
bulldog98  * updated the patch fix_ontology_vs_feeder_automoc_race_condition.diff to fit to the new release21:47
bulldog98?21:47
Riddellbulldog98: yes21:48
Riddellemacs would know how to fix it, but vi *shrug* :)21:49
bulldog98Riddell: 80 Chars are allowed?21:49
Riddellyes, that's always a safe limit21:49
bulldog98Riddell: can i delete an commit that was done localy?21:50
Riddellbulldog98: probably, but I'd just commit over it21:52
bulldog98Riddell: ok21:52
bulldog98Riddell: updated21:55
Riddellbulldog98: lovely, pushed to lp:~kubuntu-members/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu-4.622:03
bulldog98Riddell: cool22:03
Riddellbulldog98: did you upload to kubuntu-ninjas?22:04
bulldog98Riddell: yep22:04
bulldog98only the changelog fixes are not in there22:05
Riddellthat's fine22:07
Riddellbulldog98: onto kdepim? that's the tricky one :)22:07
bulldog98Riddell: I asked you twice before I uploaded it22:08
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apachelogger /me dances with Nightrose22:13
Nightrose\o/22:14
bulldog98Riddell: so I guess I shouldn’t do that if I finished kdepim?22:14
apacheloggerNightrose: did you see the picture of the chandelier at my hair dresser's?22:18
harolddongis 4.6 beta 1 going to be packaged for kubuntu or are they waiting for the next beta?22:18
apacheloggerharolddong: WIP22:18
apacheloggerkubotu: script add 46 m.reply "WIP"22:19
kubotualright22:19
apacheloggerkubotu: 4622:19
kubotuWIP22:19
apacheloggersplendid22:19
Nightroseapachelogger: yea - very fashionable22:19
Riddellbulldog98: if you finish kdepim you are very welcome to dance with Nightrose 22:19
Nightrose-.-22:19
apacheloggerNightrose: sorta wicked though ^^22:19
apacheloggerfits into the general style though22:20
Nightrosehehe22:20
apachelogger...also, consequently I got a new haircut...22:20
yofelRiddell: I need to backport attica and grantlee first - 0.2.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1 sounds fine as attica version? (builds fine)22:24
Riddellyofel: yes go for it22:27
yofelk, let's see if I did my dput.cf right...22:28
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yofelI did \o/22:31
Riddellyofel: awooga22:58
Riddelloh thanks goodness, kde4libs finally compiled22:59
apacheloggerrekonq drives me mad !!!23:07
Guest97855apachelogger: is there anything that doesn't? :D23:07
apacheloggeryes23:08
apacheloggerwindows23:08
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Guest46883ff 4 beta is very snappy on my anciient and crusty laptop23:10
* apachelogger demans firefox by default23:10
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apachelogger+d23:10
apacheloggerwho wants to do some proofreading?23:11
claydohooh mememememe but it may be a bit Ihave  to go and cook23:11
apacheloggerthat is fine23:11
* apachelogger is not going to publish today23:11
* claydoh got married and he *still* has to do the cooking :(23:12
apachelogger^^23:12
valorieapachelogger: proofread what?23:16
valorieenglish text, I can do23:16
valoriecode, not so much23:16
Riddellclaydoh: recently?23:16
claydohRiddell: oh, no almost 21 years now :)23:16
claydohstill cooking.......23:17
claydohI'll get over it eventually. its a running njoke between us23:17
valorieI could say the same thing, claydoh23:17
valoriebut my husband finally started cooking too23:17
valorieso we share it23:18
claydohvalorie: my wife just chooses not to, sez I am better23:18
claydohbut she is better at baking than I23:18
valorieotoh, we've been married 38 years!23:18
claydohsweet :)23:18
valorieunbelieveable, really23:18
valoriecan't believe how fast time rushes along23:18
apacheloggervalorie: my newest erotic novel thing23:19
valorieoooo, exciting23:20
valorieI've proofread pr0n before, but it's rather distracting23:21
valorielol23:21
apacheloggerit features pictures of fregl in compromising positions23:21
apacheloggervalorie: I wonder why that is ^^23:22
Riddellla la la23:22
Riddelloh look, kde4libs compiled23:22
Riddellnow there's something to get distracted by23:22
apacheloggervalorie: now look, you made Riddell feel uncomfortable, how could you :P23:23
valorierofl23:23
valorieI doubt that's possible; the man wears a kilt!23:23
RiddellI'm very comfortable23:24
Riddellexcept with kdepim, but that's ok bulldog98 will do that23:24
macoi can probably make him feel uncomfortable, but we tend to keep that out of project channels23:24
valoriegreat comic timing, maco!23:25
apacheloggeryeah, no uncomfortablism in my channels, or I'll go look for my op boot23:26
apacheloggerit must be somewhere...23:27
apacheloggernot entirely sure where though23:27
apacheloggerkubotu: order cookies, xmas23:27
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to apachelogger and shouts: Happy whatever -.-23:27
valoriewow, grouchy kubotu!23:27
Riddellis kubotu drunk?23:27
macoyeah really23:27
apacheloggerwho knows what jussi has been doing to that poor bot23:28
_Groo_Riddell: hey riddell im waiting for kde4libs to complete to backport it to maverick.. do i need to backport qt-webkit?23:28
apacheloggerall traumatized that poor thing23:28
* apachelogger pets kubotu23:28
* Riddell gives kubotu the last three bottles of champaign from this crate of wine he got last christmas, they need using up23:28
Riddell_Groo_: you are?23:28
Riddell_Groo_: hmm, this might overlap with yofel 23:29
_Groo_Riddell: well as you can see from the wiki i stopped with the initial packages, im back to work now23:29
_Groo_Riddell: and i dont see any yofel uploads at the ppa23:29
_Groo_Riddell:  but anyway, is qt-webkit backport imperative? or i can use the stock one from maverick?23:30
Riddell_Groo_: yofel did grantlee and attica for maverick23:30
yofel_Groo_: I backported attica and grantlee, feel free to do kdelibs if you're already at it23:30
_Groo_yofel: oh yeah i see it now XD23:31
Riddell_Groo_: qt-webkit isn't important, the version in maverick is fine23:31
_Groo_yofel: sorry, i must be blind today :D23:31
macoRiddell: s/champaign/champagne/23:31
bulldog98Riddell: I kdebase-runtime can’t be installed23:31
_Groo_Riddell: actually webkit of maverick is broken, the control file misses a ~ and breaks up other devel packages23:32
apachelogger:O23:32
apacheloggerRiddell: you've got booze that needs using? 23:32
_Groo_yofel: if you are already at it, i can do other packages yofel23:32
bulldog98Riddell: kdebase-runtime : Depends: libntrack-qt4-1 (>= 005) but it is not installable23:32
* apachelogger gets a ticket to scottland23:32
valorielol23:33
apacheloggeroh, actually, I think I just realized why drunken friends call me when they need someone to get more wasted with...:S23:33
Riddellapachelogger: got all these bottles of champagne that I don't know what to do with, they need used up before I get a new crate this christmas23:33
Riddellbulldog98: in natty?23:33
valorieextra champagne!23:33
_Groo_kubotu: order bar mitzvah23:33
* kubotu slides bar mitzvah down the bar to _Groo_23:33
valoriethat's a party right there23:33
bulldog98Riddell: yes23:33
apacheloggerRiddell: you could throw a kubuntu xmas party23:34
_Groo_yofel: so are you doing it?23:34
apacheloggeror just send them to me and I could use them on people to become minions23:34
yofel_Groo_: I'll run it in pbuilder then now, my setup here's pretty fast23:34
valoriechampagne is the best for a party23:34
Riddellsure, all welcome in my flat for christmas23:34
valorieeveryone is all cheerful and convivial23:34
_Groo_yofel: k :)23:34
Riddellbulldog98: let me check23:35
macohmm but i spent the money i was going to use to get a ticket to your flat for christmas23:35
bulldog98Riddell: in the ninja23:35
Riddellbulldog98: installs fine here, do you have universe enabled?23:35
=== apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - xmas party at Riddell's - needs doodle poll | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | packaging 4.6 beta 1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
bulldog98Riddell: not in my debootstrap23:36
Riddellbulldog98: that'll be the problem then, needs universe23:36
bulldog98Riddell: ok I’ll change that23:36
bulldog98Riddell: kdebase-runtime isn’t that in main?23:37
yofelRiddell: which version should the kde4libs maverick package have? 4.5.80 or 4.5.80a ?23:37
Riddellbulldog98: it needs libntrack-qt4-1 which is in universe23:37
Riddellyofel: let's go with 4.5.80a23:37
Riddellit always causes problem if we try and remove the minor minor minor version23:38
_Groo_is any brave soul gonna try to build kdebindings?23:38
yofelk, then I'll just backport the package in ninjas23:38
Riddell_Groo_: no, it's reported not to work by upstream23:38
_Groo_i know its not an issue till final but...23:38
_Groo_Riddell: as usual :P23:38
Riddellyes, I do wish kdebindings would be split up23:38
_Groo_Riddell: what modules? all of them? we would just need python to mantain the printer applet up and running23:39
yofelRiddell: 4:4.5.80a-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 sounds right?23:39
Riddellyofel: perfect23:39
* yofel fires up pbuilder23:39
Riddell_Groo_: dunno, something to do with okular bindings23:39
_Groo_Riddell: hmm ok23:39
_Groo_Riddell: im gonna do the following, after all the packages are up and running (since its the priority)23:40
_Groo_Riddell: im gonna try to build a minimal kdebindings (python as the priority) and if i can, ill put it in ninjas23:40
_Groo_Riddell: basically im gonna see if i can shutdown whats not compiling...23:40
_Groo_Riddell: since basically we need it for some plasmoids and printer-applet mostly23:40
_Groo_Riddell: till upstream fixes it23:41
Riddellplenty more than printer-applet uses pykde23:41
Riddellbut we also have 4.5.4 to package when 4.6 beta is done23:41
_Groo_Riddell: yeah i know, but 90% is python based23:41
Riddelloh and natty alpha 1 is next week23:41
Riddellso, waa, panic, busy!23:41
_Groo_Riddell: im gonna wait till beta1 to update my main notebook :)23:41
_Groo_Riddell: its a pet project the kdebindings, im gonna continue to help with main packages whenever possible23:42
bulldog98_Groo_: I already updated all my computers23:42
Riddellbulldog98: you're elite!23:42
_Groo_bulldog98: its my personal work machine.. i can play with some packages, a kde.. but not an alpha... although it usually works pretty well23:43
ulyssesI'm the only stucked on Lucid?:'(23:45
bulldog98ulysses: I’ve got an CD of that and if I’ve have time also an debootstrap ^^23:45
_Groo_i know its off topic but anyone knows if the python imaging library works diferently in 32 and 64 bits?23:47
_Groo_fofix is a fretsonfire clone, and like frets it uses PIL to load the menus/backgrounds which are png files23:48
_Groo_but when i run it on my machine which is 64 bits, the menus dont show up... but the exact same code works with 32 bits.. so wtf :P23:48
bulldog98Riddell: how do i refresh an patch with quilt?23:56
Riddellbulldog98: you've done quilt push to hte right pach and it said "failed"?23:57
bulldog98Riddell: no patch in series23:57
bulldog98but there are23:57
Riddellbulldog98: export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches23:57
Riddellput that in your .bashrc for future reference23:57
bulldog98Riddell: I’m using zsh23:58
bulldog98:P23:58
Riddellwell then you get what you deserve!23:58

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