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Vrejdachi I'd like to know why my kubuntu 10.10 is so slow00:35
serenityslow in which manner?00:35
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VrejdacI got a x64 amdX2 processor with 3Gb of ram and a hdd of 320Gb00:36
Vrejdacwindows move jerkily00:37
serenityVrejdac: are you using compiz, or kwin?00:37
VrejdacKickoff menu is slow to open00:37
VrejdacKwin00:37
Vrejdacand the softwares are slow00:38
SnowhogVrejdac: What video card do you have?00:39
VrejdacSnowhog, a Nvidia 8400GS00:40
serenity_which driver?00:40
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Vrejdacserenity I really don't know00:41
serenityVrejdac: open up a terminal and type nvidia-settings00:42
serenitywhat happens?00:42
Vrejdacserenity a windows appears00:46
Vrejdacbut there's no info concerning the drivers00:46
wqapolClick Kickoffmenu>Applications>System>Hardware Drivers. It should  detect appropriate drivers to install for your GC.00:47
serenitywqapol: that was my next try ;)00:48
Vrejdacwqapol t's the number 173 which is recommanded00:48
wqapolVrejdac: Sure go ahead install it00:48
serenitythis driver will increase the performance of your desktop effects like moving windows etc00:49
Vrejdacwqapol it's installed00:49
wqapolVrejdac: Restart ?00:49
Vrejdacserenity, of course I have the desktop effects like the cube but these effects are slow00:50
Vrejdacwqapol, already done00:50
serenityVrejdac: try to disable the blur effect00:51
wqapolVrejdac: For the PC of that specs it should have been reasonably fast, i mean very fast.00:53
wqapolVrejdac: You can check xorg.conf if nvidia drivers are being loaded.00:54
wqapolVrejdac: Open terminal. sudo nano /etx/x11/xorg.conf00:55
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Vrejdacwqapol it's displayed "GNU nano 2.2.4"01:10
wqapolVrejdac: Sorry its X11 (capital X)01:11
Vrejdacwqapol what's the difference ?01:11
wqapolVrejdac: unix is case sensitive so x / X are different01:12
wqapolVrejdac: check the text next to Driver. Is it vesa or nvidia?01:12
wqapolahh typo again . its etc not etx.  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:14
VrejdacwqapolI don't see the text01:14
Vrejdacit's the same thing01:14
Vrejdacthe terminal seems to change into a text editor01:15
wqapolVrejdac: can you just browse to it in the browser instead?01:16
wqapolVrejdac: When you open the file browser (Dolphin) on left side click root then etc then X11 then xorg.conf01:17
Vrejdacwqapol, it's a file ?01:17
VrejdacI can't see it01:17
wqapolVrejdac: yes01:17
Vrejdacthere are 8 repertory and 7 files but not Xorg.conf01:18
wqapolVrejdac: I dont know it should have existed as I know, I wonder how is it booting up properly.  May be somone knowledgeable will come up soon .01:20
moetunesI would check the X log for what driver is being used01:20
moetunesin konsole   grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:21
Vrejdacmoetunes and then ?01:23
moetunesread what driver it is using - there will be a few lines to go through01:23
moetunesor just paste the X log01:24
moetunes!paste01:24
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:24
Vrejdacmoetunes, I could paste it to you01:24
moetunesthat's fine01:25
Vrejdacmoetunes:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/536902/01:26
moetunesk01:26
moetunesVrejdac:  that's not the whole file is it? - there should be some lines at the top about the config files X is using01:27
Vrejdacmoetunes it the whole file, but I didnt copy the command line.01:28
moetunesanyway it is not using the 3d graphics driver it is using the opensource ones01:28
Vrejdacouchh01:29
moetunesnouveau = opensource nvidia driver01:29
Vrejdacso I didnt update01:30
moetunesnope01:30
VrejdacScheiß. Okay mates I'm weary I've to sleep01:31
Vrejdacsee you tomorow01:31
Vrejdacand thanks to all01:31
moetunesluck01:32
wqapolI am on kubuntu 10.04 now. Since I installed it yesterday, internet is poor (most of the times return 404 after long loading). IRC, torrent work perfectly fine. tried stopping them but still the same. Any ideas?01:37
valoriewhich browser are you using, wq01:37
valorieoops, wqapol01:37
wqapoltried setting opendns and google dns in resolv.conf.01:38
wqapolwqapol: firefox and chrome01:38
valorieand they are both slow?01:38
valoriehmmm01:38
valorieyou might try konqueror, and /or rekonq01:39
wqapolvalorie: not slow in strictest sense, , when they load they load in a flash, but some times it keeps on loading and returns 40401:39
wqapolwill try that now01:39
valoriethat sounds like your ISP, maybe01:39
valoriethrottling httpd01:39
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wqapolvalorie: i have been suspecting that, but torrents download without any interrruptions in speed.01:40
moetunesI just name my router as the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf01:40
wqapolmoetunes: you mean 192.168.1.1 ?01:42
moetunesyep01:42
wqapolyes it was so initially.01:43
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b14ckHi all. I just started using kubuntu. I've got a simple problem:02:10
b14ckI've got two sound sources (both are detected). A logitech speaker system, and a pair of USB headphones.02:10
b14ckI'd like to be able to switch between the two using the USB headphones' on/off switch, is this possible?02:10
b14ckRight now, if I want to switch output devices, I have to open the kmix applet, and navigate through the menus to switch it.02:11
b14ckEG: I have to select the `master channel` from the kmix menu.02:11
b14ckI'm using kubuntu 10.10.02:11
valoriehmmm, have you tried using pavucontrol?02:18
b14ckNope, what is that?02:18
valorieI had to use it once, and those changes stuck02:19
valorieit is the gui for controlling pulseaudio02:19
* b14ck installs02:19
b14ckI'll check it out, thanks :)02:19
valorienow I never have to even open up kmix02:19
valoriegood luck!02:19
b14ckheh02:19
b14ckOk got it open, let'02:19
b14ck*Let's see now...02:20
b14ckvalorie: were you able to use it to switch between your speakers and headphoens?02:21
valoriethat seems to be automatic now02:22
valorieI plug them in, and the sound goes into them02:22
valorieunplug them, and it's back in the speakers02:22
b14ckOh I see.02:22
b14ckLet me try to do that then.02:22
valoriewhich is the standard02:22
b14ckDo you still run kmix?02:23
b14ckTo get volume control on your keyboard and what not?02:23
b14ckactually02:25
b14ckim going to rebood and check it out02:25
b14ckbrb02:25
valorieI have the widget02:28
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b14ckHi everyone, looks like I still can't get my headphones working.02:50
b14ckThey work under gnome which is weird.02:50
b14ckBut I can't actually seem to get *any* audio out of them under kde.02:50
gr8m8I would open alsamixer ina terminal and make sure they aren't muted02:51
b14ckhrm02:51
b14ckin alsamixer it shows <headphon> as 0002:51
b14ckBut I'm using pulseaudio I believe..02:51
b14ckAnd I also can't seem to adjust the <headphon> levels in alsamixer. It just stays at 0002:52
b14ckOh wait, if I hit f6 (select sound card) and swtich to my usb headphones, I can then altar the volume levels (PCM).02:53
b14ckGoing to give this method a try: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071124033643AAoxE3b brb02:55
RadSurferHow do I properly mount a UDF dvd in kubuntu?03:00
valorieheh03:00
valoriethat was a 3 year-old question and answer03:00
b14ckHrm, no good :(03:00
b14ckYah, I figured I'd give it a try anyhow though03:00
valoriepavucontrol didn't do the trick for you/03:01
valorie?03:01
b14ckNope =/03:01
b14ckIt shows my headphone device.03:01
valorieoh, that sucks03:01
b14ckBut won't play anything through it.03:01
b14ckLike, if I go to pavucontrol->Output Devices03:01
b14ckI see them both listed there.03:01
b14ckBut I have no idea how to switch to the headphones (ad01 analog stereo)03:01
RadSurferCan someone _please_ help with mounting a UDF dvd03:02
gr8m8what's a udf dvd?03:04
gr8m8!mount03:04
ubottuPartitioning programs !PartitionManager or !GParted (see also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mount partitions from System Settings -> (Advanced tab) Removable Devices. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter03:04
gr8m8who changed that botlink?03:04
RadSurferanyone have advice on how to mount a udf dvd in kubuntu?03:06
gr8m8RadSurfer: have you made a dir to mount it to?03:07
RadSurferI have temporary folders, yes03:07
RadSurferBut nothing I've tried is working yet03:07
gr8m8RadSurfer: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/dvd /path/to/mount/dir   normally works - what have you tried?03:09
RadSurferwhy does fstab have no references to cdrom/dvd ?03:09
gr8m8udev does it now03:09
gr8m8!udev03:09
gr8m8!info udev03:09
ubottuudev (source: udev): rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is required. Version 162-2.1 (maverick), package size 418 kB, installed size 1480 kB03:09
RadSurferhow can I have a '/path/to/dvd' when it isn't recognized yet?03:10
RadSurfersdc something or other?03:10
gr8m8RadSurfer: check in the /media dir03:10
RadSurferthere is not 'cdrom' in /media presently03:10
RadSurferonly floppy03:11
RadSurferwhich is always present03:11
RadSurferhow to I determine my DVD drives designation please? sd(?)03:11
gr8m8RadSurfer: if you only have one hdd it will be sdb03:12
RadSurferI get this: "ount -t udf /dev/sdb /home/simon/folder     # mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist03:13
gr8m8you could do   ls /dev | grep sd03:13
RadSurfersda, sda 1 - 5 is reported03:13
gr8m8RadSurfer: for some reason the drive isn't recognised - is it old ?03:14
RadSurferdrive worked 100% in Sidux, and under centos, fedora, mandriva, etc.03:14
RadSurferWhy would kubuntu be any exception.03:14
gr8m8everything works until it doesn't...03:15
RadSurferand its only "not recognized" when it doesn't like a particular disc thats in it03:15
RadSurferput a "valid" disc in and its fine03:15
gr8m8so other disks work ok?03:15
gr8m8ok03:15
RadSurferyes! its only not reading udf and encrypted discs03:15
RadSurferthis is only udf03:15
RadSurferany advice?03:16
gr8m8RadSurfer: you might have to burn them at a slower rate03:16
RadSurfersounds like rubbish03:16
RadSurferhow can so many other distros not have issues03:16
gr8m8there's nothing I know of to get disk drives recognising a disk03:16
RadSurferwell pooh.03:16
RadSurferat this rate I'm going to Aptosid03:16
gr8m8heh sorry03:17
RadSurferif I linked to another PC that could read this file, I could network it over. but sheesh!03:17
gr8m8it could be the drive starting to fail too03:17
RadSurferdoubtful03:17
gr8m8you can see inside and know the laser is still lined up right?03:18
RadSurferit reads normal data dvd's + and - flawlessly, with no skips03:18
RadSurferit plays normal standard dvd videos with no skips03:19
gr8m8there's nothing more I can add..03:19
RadSurferI thank you for your time. :-)03:19
gr8m8sorry I couldn't help more03:20
Snowhoggr8m8: For future, udftools provides the support in Kubuntu for UDF Filesystems and DVD/CD-R(W) drives. It isn't installed by default.03:24
gr8m8Snowhog: it was as simple as that?03:25
gr8m8RadSurfer: see what Snowhog said?03:26
RadSurferwhat?03:27
gr8m8install udftools03:27
RadSurferah03:27
RadSurferOkay. Testing.03:27
gr8m8luck03:27
RadSurfersomething U have to reboot for :)03:28
gr8m8heh - if it was easy everyone would do it :)03:29
RadSurferbrb03:29
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RadSurferSnowhog && gr8m8: udftools did it! Thank you!03:34
SnowhogRadSurfer: Cool.03:34
RadSurferI honestly thought that seemed transparent before... maybe I needed to install something back then too. This works. all that matters.03:35
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RadSurferSnowhog && gr8m8: whoopsie: http://pastebin.ca/200346603:41
RadSurferI can't actually access it03:41
RadSurferthere's no manpage for udftools either03:42
SnowhogRadSurfer: udftools contains   mkudffs - Format a device, creating an empty UDF filesystem03:43
Snowhog  cdrwtool - Low-level drive management (e.g. set writing speed, format)03:43
Snowhog  pktsetup - Set up a packet writing device (/dev/pktcdvd0) for a drive03:43
Snowhog  wrudf - Maintains a UDF filesystem (undocumented)03:43
FloodBotK1Snowhog: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:43
SnowhogFloodBotK1: Sorry.03:43
RadSurferthis is nonsense03:43
gr8m8RadSurfer: try leaving out the -t option and see what mount figures out on its' own03:43
RadSurferI never had to go out of my way before03:43
SnowhogRadSurfer: Was the disc formatted in Vista?03:44
RadSurferwhats vista?03:44
SnowhogRadSurfer: hehe03:44
gr8m8heh03:44
RadSurferhttp://pastebin.ca/200346703:46
RadSurfernow what?03:46
gr8m8RadSurfer: leave the -t udf option out I meant - udf on it's own will do nothing03:47
gr8m8'cept confuse matters03:48
RadSurfer"mount: you must specify the filesystem type"03:48
RadSurfereven after installing udftools :(03:49
RadSurfersure fstab doesn't need to add that line?03:49
gr8m8ok - seems you are outta luck - I'll see what google.com/linux returns03:49
RadSurferthought I had it, but theres no access03:50
SnowhogRadSurfer: libudf0  -  This library is made to read and write UDF filesystems; those filesystems are mainly used on DVDs. It isn't a dependancy of udftools. You might see what you get after installing it?03:51
gr8m8http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount - gives options for mounting udf - seems you need to have some options03:52
RadSurferoptions but no working examples.03:55
RadSurferdrive starts up sometimes, as if its trying to read it, then apparently just rejects it03:56
gr8m8I noticed that - google.com/linux is your friend03:56
SnowhogRadSurfer: One still has to ask what OS was used to create the disc you can't read in Kubuntu. Take a look at this: http://superuser.com/questions/52547/problems-with-mounting-udf-dvds-in-ubuntu04:15
claydohSnowhog: you are tireless dude :) hello and good nite, I am off to bed04:20
gr8m8all Pauls are tough as nails04:21
Snowhogclaydoh: gn8 :)04:23
valorieheh, they are04:23
valorieI've known a few, and they are all tough04:23
jschallis there a PPA to install linux 2.6.36 and does it break anything?05:14
gr8m8!ppa05:15
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.05:15
Snowhoggr8m8: Should RadSurfer return, he should look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/635499 and add to it.05:18
gr8m8Snowhog: ok :)05:18
andrewh192does anyone know what the command is on bash to find the model of my network/modem card on my laptop05:21
Snowhogandrewh192: lspci05:21
andrewh192thanx05:22
echolist1hello05:35
Snowhogecholist1: Problem? Question?05:39
echolist1can someone tell me about connecting a usb cdma modem ?05:39
Snowhogecholist1: See http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3114691.msg248588#msg24858805:41
echolist1ok, thanks snowhog :D05:42
Guest47299Anyone in here running Kde 4.5?06:08
SnowhogGuest47299: 4.5.306:09
Guest47299Snowhog, does it run about the same as 3.5? I tried upgrading to kubuntu earlier and it was SLOWW06:09
SnowhogGuest47299: That depends. Do you have an Nvidia graphics card?06:10
Guest47299Snowhog, nvidia 8400 GS 512mb06:10
SnowhogGuest47299: Click on K Menu > System > Additional Drivers to load the recommended driver.06:11
Guest47299snowhog, i am running the recommended drivers right now, I think what happen when I updated it to Kubuntu-desktop it installed the old Kde 4.0 not the Kde 4.5506:12
Guest47299*4.506:12
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echolist1hello06:43
therockhelp. I have an open proxi. It brings into trouble. This is the only service provider I can get by now. What can I do to get out of it..?06:44
moetuneswhere did you set thjings up to use an open proxy06:49
therockI just connect directly to internet. I have a superslow internet connection.06:50
moetunesI'm amazed you can connect here as open proxies aren't allowed06:52
therockYes, I cannot connect using quassel and many progs.06:54
valorie[22:42] --> therock has joined this channel (de7c030e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.222.124.3.14).06:54
therockBut I need help06:54
valorieI don't think it's forbidden to get to the webapp06:54
therockIs it still forbidden to use for webapp?06:56
valorieyou're here06:57
valorielol06:57
therockMay I ask. How much do you pay for your connection? How fast is it..?06:58
therockI think people are annoying internet in this country.06:59
moetuneswhich country?06:59
therockIm in Indonesia, asia.07:03
echolist1wakakak i think therock same with me :D07:03
therockecholist1: where do you live?07:06
echolist1my connection just 154 kbps :))07:06
echolist1same with you indonesia :D07:06
therockI cannot get indosat through here..07:07
therockexept this only telkom flexxxxxi, grrrrr..07:07
echolist1hahaha, you in kalimantan ?07:08
therockno either to speedy.07:08
therocklike kind of it07:08
therockim in a village07:08
therockfarmering07:08
therockeverytime I refresh package on synaptic, I got this message: W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DB141E2302FDF93207:11
therockits because of I use open proxi, right?07:12
valoriehttp://en.kioskea.net/faq/809-debian-apt-get-no-pubkey-gpg-error07:13
valorieno, it's because the pubkey wasn't fetched07:13
valorieyou can fetch it manually though07:13
valorieline noise is more likely the problem07:14
valorieI used to see that sort of stuff all the time when I used dialup07:14
therockvalorie: thankyou.. :)07:17
valorieyou are very welcome07:17
valoriethat's why we're here07:18
andrewh192hey, anyone here have any experience with Mozilla's Thunderbird?07:20
moetunesI use it07:21
andrewh192do you happen to use the calender feature as well?07:21
moetunesnope sorry07:21
andrewh192oh07:21
andrewh192i am running into a problem when i synced my google calender to it, it brought up a bunch of stuff thatt was on my google calender in a list, and it gave me the choice of either Snoozing the alarm, or dismissing it07:22
andrewh192when i would press either/or it wouldn't do anything except spit out an error message in the logs07:23
andrewh192just was wondering if anyone knew about that apparent bug, or had any ideas of how to fix it...07:23
therockWhat progs might best to editing svgz images..?07:28
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andrewh192therock: i wouldn't hold ur breath07:29
andrewh192it seems that there isn't many if any people actually on right now07:29
andrewh192its sorta late in the night too07:29
andrewh192my best bet is to wait til tomorrow and ask during the day07:29
therockoh, sorry.. i didnt know that :)07:30
rats__therock: i dont know for sure but inkscape might work07:32
rats__now that im looking maybe not sry07:35
therockrats__: thankyou. :)07:35
rats__therock:  thank you that ? led me to this link http://158.193.150.10/linuxlist/linuxlist/node3.html07:41
the1weba0hi for everyone!07:45
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Snowhogubottu: !help08:28
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:28
DiogenesWservus09:43
tguru89hello everyone09:51
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tguru89I have a question regarding sdk setup on kubuntu09:51
rork!ask | tguru8909:58
ubottutguru89: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:58
tguru89okay. well i downloaded the android sdk and i had moved it into the path. rebooted so that the changes would take effect. when i try the command adb devices it tells me no such file or directory10:00
tguru89Another note, the adb icon is a big gear, and it says it is executable but double clicking it does nothing10:03
ct529hi guys! you now the kubuntu screen that appears after grub? where is it stored?10:11
ct529I would,like to modify it, but cannot find where it is.10:12
moetunesthe splash screen during boot?10:13
ct529moetunes: yes10:13
moetunesthat's called plymouth iirc - you need a theme for it10:14
ct529thanks .... I have installed nvidia drivers because nouveaux does not support cuda or composite10:14
ct529moetunes: but not the splash screen is horrible10:15
ct529moetunes: and I installed composite to show kubuntu off to friends and colleagues to convince them to switch off to kubuntu10:15
ct529moetunes: but now the splash screen is horrible, very UN-convincing10:15
moetunessearch for a theme then - I've never bothetred with it10:16
moetunes!usplash10:16
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork10:16
moetunesis that still valid?10:16
ct529moetunes: don't know10:16
moetunesme neither10:17
ct529moetunes: do you know whether it is possible to force a specific screen resolution at boot time? like 1920 x 1200?10:17
moetunesyou can do that in /etc/default/grub - but be careful that you use an appropriate res10:18
ct529moetunes: in what sense apporpriate?10:18
moetunesif you choose one too large for the framebuffer you won't see the grub menu10:19
moetunes!grub210:19
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub210:19
alpha-aquilaehello, i am under kubuntu 10.04, i can't set vpn connexion using "Network Connexions" in Configure-KDE Control Module, in the tab vpn, the button "+ Add..." is inactive, how can i fox that?10:21
ct529moetunes: thanks a lot you have been very helpful10:21
moetunesnp :)10:21
tguru89Should I be able to execute a file that is categorized executable by double-clicking it?10:22
moetunestguru89:  yep but if it is an icon and has errors it won't do anything10:22
tguru89So then I must have errors... I am trying to set up Android SDK so I can use adb for my mobile device10:24
ct529let's reboot and see what happens :-)10:24
moetunestguru89:  I know nothing about that - check the path you have and that it is executable10:25
tguru89I am dual booting kubutu with windows and i just installed it. I just noticed that i had bug fixes that needed to be done, so I will reboot and be right back.10:26
moetunesk10:26
tguru89I'm back10:30
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DiogenesWi'd like to use my monitor much like a picture on the wall when i don't use the computer, so it shouldn't switch off after ten minutes or so,m which it does, despite switching of power saveing in the preferences10:31
DiogenesWwhat can i do now?10:31
moetunesin konsole do   xset -q   and see if dpms is on10:32
DiogenesW"DPMS is enabled" ...10:33
DiogenesWshould i use "xset -dpms"?10:34
DiogenesW(asked after having taken a look on the output of "xset --help")10:34
moetunesyep10:35
moetunesthen check with   xset -q   again10:35
DiogenesWwhen? after having logged on (in the autostart perhaps ...)=10:35
moetunesautostart would be ok or .xinitrc if you use it10:36
DiogenesWno it says "... disabled"10:36
moetunessweet10:36
DiogenesWthanks10:36
DiogenesWwhat's sweet?10:36
noomini'm using an external monitor attached to a laptop. on startup, it constantly resets the video size on the main display to clone the internal... is there a way to lock in that change, but with fallback in the event the laptop leaves the desk?10:36
moetunesthat it is disabled - sometimes that doesn't work10:36
DiogenesWstrange ...10:37
moetunesdiff cards react diff ways10:37
moetunes!xrandr | noomin10:37
ubottunoomin: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1210:37
noominnot running dual screen -- laptop screen won't fiton desk w/ larger monitor...10:37
noomindoes that matter? is xrandr still useful ?10:38
moetunesnoomin:  I would put a xrandr command for the external in autostarted apps then10:38
noominwill it fail gracefully if the monitor is gone?10:39
moetunesyou could read the X log to see why it does that too10:39
moetunesprobably10:39
amichairmoetunes: what's the difference between xrandr and TwinView (NVidia)?10:39
moetunesamichair:  you can't use xrandr with the nvidia driver iirc10:39
moetunesnvidia does it thier own way10:40
amichairok10:40
moetunesnvidia still makes a xorg.conf10:41
moetunesarchaic10:41
ct529moetunes: nope it does not work10:52
u19809Hi all, I have upgrade to 10.10 and now my X system does not come up anymore ... I have an nvidia 8600 GT graphics card10:52
moetunesct529:  did you do the update-grub thing mention in the file /etc/default/grub or what's on the wiki page?10:53
noominhttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 -- the example solves my problem exactly :-)10:53
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moetunesu19809:  you could read the X log to find out why with   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log   from a tty10:55
ct529moetunes: yes I did10:55
moetunesct529:  then what didn't work?10:55
ct529no splash screen at all, just a black screen with a few boot messages10:56
u19809moetunes : there are no EE messages ... a few WW with modes that are not supported.  Oddly when I start xinit.  my linux system crashes (cannot go back to console and need to reboot)  I have downloaded the latest NVIDIA drivers10:56
moetunesu19809:  was a xorg.conf file made when you installed the drivers?10:58
ct529moetunes: that should be right? -> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash video=vesafb"10:58
u19809Originally I upgraded from a 9.04 (first going to 10.04 and then 10.10) but when I installed the latest NVIDIA drivers It asked to generate a new Xorg and I said yes ... actually my xorg.conf looks 'normal'10:59
moetunesct529:  not from what I know - I would have edited the line about the gfxmode and set the size I knew the framebuffer handled10:59
ct529I do not understand sorry, this is what is suggested in the README file11:00
ct529moetunes: which line about the gfxmode?11:00
u19809moetunes : if I just run X from the console I get a black screen with a view colored blocks on it and my linux server crashed (hard reset needed).  So I think it is more than a bad config since generally that would just stop the X server11:01
moetunesct529:  one that looks like   GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768x1611:01
ct529moetunes: let's try again11:02
u19809moetunes : also when I downgrade to X version 1.7.2 (currently 1.9.0) my X display starts but sometimes I am unable to click on certain windows ... (focus seems to be confused)11:02
moetunesu19809:  sounds like a bad driver install - you can move the xorg.conf and let X pick its' own driver to see if it works11:02
u19809move away and just start X without xorg you mean ?11:03
moetunesu19809:  yep - just to get X started11:03
u19809moetunes : that gives a black screen but no crash (could switch back to console).  Got 2 EE messages : failed to load module nouveau and failed to initialize glx extensions (compatible nvidia driver not found)11:05
ct529moetunes: noep .... how do I know what the framebuffer sufforts? and I haev to activate the framebuffer as well11:05
moetunesu19809:  maybe the nvidia driver install gets in the way - I never use the proprietry drivers11:06
ct529moetunes: I neve ruse prpoprietary drivers, but in this case nouveau does not support CUDA11:07
moetunesct529:  afaik the frmabuffer should run  - I found my res by trial and error11:07
ct529moetunes: I need for work11:07
ct529moetunes: lt's try again11:07
moetunesct529:  then don't play with it11:07
u19809moetunes : i just let the nvidia generate a new xorg.conf and at least I can login ... !11:08
moetunesu19809:  it's a start11:08
u19809tv seems too work so v4l seems to work too ...11:09
u19809how can I test GLX ?11:09
moetunesI see more ppl having trouble with the nvidia driver install then most other things11:09
u198093D accell does not seem to work11:09
moetunesu19809:  glxgears is one way11:10
moetunesglxinfo too11:10
u19809moetunes : does not seem to be installed11:10
moetunesu19809:  try in konsole   grep glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:11
u19809moetunes : seems loaded ...11:13
moetunesu19809:  your card is getting a bit old - maybe the newer drivers don't support it so well11:14
moetunesrelitivley speaking11:14
moetunes*relativly11:14
moetunesneither of those look right11:14
u19809moetunes : nah don't think so since the nvidia proprietary driver supports all11:15
moetunesit was a guess11:15
u19809I just activated my 'desktop cube' and it seems to work so I presume glx works too11:15
moetunescool11:15
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moetuneshello Peace- :)11:16
u19809just added 6 more desktops and can see a nice carrousel of screens11:16
moetunessounds like it is working ok then11:16
Peace-hi moetunes11:16
gj1006My Microphone doesn't works with Kubuntu. Can someone help me?11:27
gj1006There is no control for it in KMix11:29
amichairgj1006: maybe try runnin alsamixer, and play around with both microphone and capture devices (it took me a while too, at the time)11:30
Peace-gj1006: ok i can help you11:30
rorkgj1006: in Settings > Configure Channels you can add channels to Kmix11:30
Peace-i guess11:30
Peace-rork: 10.10 or 10.0411:31
gj1006There is no other channel shown11:31
rorkPeace-, gj1006: 10.0411:31
gj100610.1011:32
Peace-rork: so open konsole and type  :  alsamier -V all11:33
Peace-rork: then screenshot11:33
Peace-!imagebin | rork11:33
ubotturork: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.11:33
rorkPeace-: Why would you want that screenshot? I do not have a problem11:35
gj1006http://imagebin.org/12504411:35
Peace-rork: sorry was for gj100611:36
Peace-gj1006: sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all11:37
Peace-gj1006: rec /tmp/temp.wav11:37
Peace-CRTL C to stop recording11:37
Peace-then11:37
Peace-play /tmp/temp.wav11:37
gj1006Nothing11:38
Peace-gj1006: could you check if you have capture ?11:39
Peace-alsamixer -V all11:39
Peace-could show only some volume controllers11:39
Peace-make sure , moving with arrows left and right,11:40
Peace-that you have only controlleer that you have showed to me on the screenshot11:40
Peace-gj1006: it's a laptop?11:40
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khashmeshabhello everybody12:31
khashmeshabi have a problem: i need to install kde on my ubuntu installation12:32
khashmeshabbut i don't have an internet connection on it12:32
khashmeshabsorry i'm facing connection difficaulties now12:35
o0zekhashmeshab: does it have any networking ? then you could use apt-proxy12:35
khashmeshabso if anybody sent an answer, please resend them12:35
khashmeshabno, we have moved to a new house and the ADSL connection is not yet ready12:35
o0zeinstall from cd/dvd/usb ?12:37
o0zecan add such a source in the sourceslist12:37
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fabriziosoHello claydoh, are you here?12:54
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fabriziosoI just installed kmymoney 4.5.1 from claydoh's ppa rep and found out that there is no HBCI support available. I read that this happened before but had been fixed meanwhile. So is this a regression issue or have I done something wrong. I'm using Lucid.12:58
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roland_hi, I read somewhere that it's possible to enable natty narwhal repositories... anyone know how to do it?13:26
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jussiroland: #ubuntu+1 for natt questions13:31
rolandjussi: thnx13:32
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DiogenesWbis später14:06
ceronalgún foro para RHEL?14:11
ceron#rhel-es14:15
mihaкто тут14:24
ronny_aloha, kann mir jemand sagen, was ich für einen grafikkartentreiber installieren muss, wenn er im terminal "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) anzeigt?14:25
chris____i want to help test kde 4.6 beta , where is the ppa for it ?15:04
rorkchris____: https://edge.launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa if I'm informed well15:39
rjizzleanyone know hot to configure nvidia x serv?15:57
BluesKajhowdy16:11
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Guest58245I am wanting to setup my audio in kde 3.5 so it uses my default sound card for all my default sounds, but it keeps just saying pulseaudio local and I dont know how to change the default sound card16:16
chinmayai installed the doxygen-gui package , but dont see any icon of doxygen16:39
BluesKajchinmaya, try the run command or the terminal16:45
chinmayai am running the command on terminal16:46
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basyhi all, where can i setup main window bottons(Minimiza, Maximiza, Close), I want to add "Keep above others" button, i am using lates ubuntu10.10 -> with kubuntu-desktop17:08
seiflotfyhey guys17:10
seiflotfyapachelogger, da?17:10
Riddellbasy: system settings -> window decorations -> configure buttons17:10
Riddellhi seiflotfy17:10
seiflotfyhi Ragnar :)17:10
seiflotfyany1 interested in hacking some zeitgeist + kde ?17:11
seiflotfyi cant provide money17:11
seiflotfybut i can assure you a bit of fame :P17:11
Riddellkde already has a semantic desktop system17:12
Riddell(nepomuk)17:12
geekosopherbasy: window decorations is in Workspace appearance17:12
Riddellwhich could do with some better UI usage17:12
basyRiddell + geekosopher: found it thanks guys17:13
apacheloggerkonnichiwa seiflotfy17:13
geekosopherbasy: welcome17:14
seiflotfyRiddell, we already had talks wit hsebastian trueg17:16
seiflotfynepomuk and zeitgeist are not the same at all17:16
seiflotfyRiddell, nepomuk stores metadata17:16
seiflotfywe store how files are used17:16
seiflotfyand sebastian trueg and me had a 6 hour face to face meeting17:17
seiflotfy:)17:17
seiflotfyand we will get them to work together17:17
Riddellthat sounds promising17:17
seiflotfyas a GNOME guy I ma now being hired to work on KDE17:18
seiflotfyso i am not making things up17:18
seiflotfyand i am being hired by the former president of KDE :)17:18
seiflotfyso this is exciting17:18
Riddellseiflotfy: KDAB?17:19
Riddelloh, BasysKom?17:19
seiflotfyEva Brucherseifer17:19
seiflotfyRiddell, yes17:19
seiflotfyso i would like to have the kubuntu community push this forward17:19
seiflotfy:)17:19
seiflotfyRiddell, care to help me out17:20
Riddellseiflotfy: in terms of coding probably best to ask upstream KDE, if there's code that needs packaging for testing and shipping then yes17:21
seiflotfyi need coders17:21
seiflotfyi need ppl to just help me write an extension for kate or amarok17:21
seiflotfythat sends the events to zeitgeist17:21
bobbyjanybody know a good gps program?17:22
Riddellseiflotfy: I'd recommend asking on the kate and amarok developer mailing lists17:22
sushanthello room17:24
sushantI'm facing problem with screen resolution17:25
sushantthe default is set to 800x60017:25
sushantif i change it to 1024x768 then the mouse cursor dissaperas17:25
sushanti tried searching many blogs but have not found any solution17:25
apacheloggerseiflotfy: can one communicate with zeitgeist via dbus?17:26
timI have a lost+found directory on a backup drive which I can't remove, even wish shred in single user mode.  Is there any way to delete this folder when root can't do it?17:26
seiflotfyapachelogger, yes17:26
sushanthas anybody solved this ?17:26
seiflotfywe have python and c bindings17:26
seiflotfyapachelogger, :)17:26
apacheloggerseiflotfy: should be easy to do for amarok then, since one supposedly has access to QtDBus from QtScript (which is what amarok is using for scripting)17:27
apacheloggerseiflotfy: poke Nightrose in #amarok.dev she surely can find someone to hack on that17:28
seiflotfyapachelogger, aweseome17:30
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eagles0513875hey guys  is there anyone in here on mavrick 64bit on a netbook that used the net installer to install kubuntu17:34
chris1810Hi, does anyone know if there will be 4.6 beta packages for kubuntu?17:35
eagles0513875chris1810: there will be but not sure when just keep an eye out on the kubuntu site17:36
chris1810yeah, I'm doing this since the beta was officially announced :-) There has been very good feedback from users of other distros, who have the beta available already.17:38
akSeyahi guys.. I need a quick assistance.. my father is running Kubuntu and I need to access his computer via VNC17:38
akSeyahis firewall ports are blocked, and he is not able to play with it...17:39
akSeyai'm running vncviewer on listen mode on my machine, is there a way for him to connect to my computer?17:39
akSeyakrfb does not have a connect to viewer function17:40
timIs there a way to delete a directory that root doesn't have rights to?  I've tried rm -r --force and shred --remove --force -u with no success.17:40
chris1810akSeay: why don't you use teamviewer for linux? It's free and works great! Both of you have to downlaod and install the package (which is available on teamviewer.com)17:41
chris1810tim: check out -> man chattr17:43
Riddellchris1810: I'm afraid we had some problem but we're getting there17:43
chris1810A  file  with  the `i' attribute cannot be modified: it cannot be deleted or renamed, no link can be created to this file and no data can be written to the file.  Only17:44
chris1810       the superuser or a process possessing the CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE capability can set or clear this attribute.17:44
nascentmindHi. When I set anti aliasing on fonts it doesn't take effect. How do I fix this?17:45
chris1810@Riddell: Thanks for the info and all your work making kubuntu a great distribution!17:45
chris1810nascentmind: anti-aliasing only takes effect on newly started applications...17:46
nascentmindchris1810, but it doesn't in my case.17:46
nascentmindchris1810, there seems to a be a bug in kde where when I write exec /usr/bin/screen in my .bash_profile it messes up kdm.17:47
nascentmindcan somebody confirm that?17:47
nascentminddue to that I had to do a sudo startx and from then on the fonts just don't anti alias.17:48
chris1810I'm using byobu, which only starts screen when it's on a VT or remote session, but not e.g. in konsole. Never tried to run it the way you do.17:49
chris1810(so I can't confirm this behaviour)17:49
apacheloggernascentmind: one uses .profile anyway17:50
nascentmindso what's the reason for my anti alias problem?17:51
andreas_moin17:51
nascentmindhas it messed something because I did a sudo startx?17:51
nascentmindit was showing as user:root17:51
chris1810why don't you remove "excec /usr/bin/screen" from your .bash_profile and restart kdm as it is supposed?17:52
nascentmindchris1810, yes done that.17:53
nascentmindchris1810, had also installed xdm to check what was wrong.17:53
ubuntuhey17:54
ubuntuanyone online?17:54
chris1810nascentmind: and you've still no anti-aliasing?17:54
Gerald_hi17:54
nascentmindno i don't17:54
nascentmindalthough I have enabled it in appearance section. this includes setting the System Settings option for AA17:55
chris1810I guess - as you run X as root for a little time, some file permissions got messed up. Do a "find . -user root" in your users home to see if there are any config files owned by root now17:56
ubuntucan anyone tell me how can i connect to yahooo messenger, if i'm using kubuntu from live cd?17:56
chris1810ubuntu, try kopete17:57
ubuntui've try but...connecting17:58
Gerald_does someone use xvidcap?17:58
ubuntuand no reply\17:58
nascentmindchris1810, I did a find .kde -user root and I am getting some results17:59
nascentmindchris1810, should I down a chown on .kde?18:00
Snowhog_nascentmind: Nothing in your users /home directory should be owned by root.18:01
chris1810nascentmind, I don't have any files owned by root in my .kde, so chown them18:01
nascentmindok did  sudo chown -R user:user .kde/18:02
nascentmindlemme check by re logging in.18:03
eagles0513875hey guys are there any netbook users here18:04
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nascentmindstrange. it shows fonts as ubuntu 8 and ubuntu 9.18:07
chris1810that are the default fonts since maverick18:07
nascentmindok. I clicked on defaults and set the AA to enabled. Still does not work18:09
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tguru89Hello all, I am getting this message :/bin/bash: prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.4.0/bin/arm-eabi-gcc: No such file or directory MY QUESTION IS: How do I get toolchain?18:13
stefan`hi, anybody knows when we can expect 4.6 beta?18:15
stefan`i mean kubuntu packages18:17
eagles0513875stefan`: just keep an eye out on the kubuntu page18:17
eagles0513875thats where news is annouced about this kinda stuff18:17
eagles0513875!flash64 | eagles051387518:17
ubottueagles0513875, please see my private message18:17
timTHANK YOU CHRIS!!!! that worked.  I had been about to repartition if you had not had that answer.18:20
stefan`i know they'll announce it there - but i would like to know when this could be? there are not even any packages building on launchpad yet...18:21
Riddellstefan`: later today with any luck18:22
stefan`Riddell: thanks :)18:22
Snowhog_Riddell: Will they be in backports or beta-backports?18:23
tguru89Does anyone know anything about toolchain or where I can find the onw I need?18:23
asfyxia@stefan: check http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Release_Schedule18:23
RiddellSnowhog_: maverick packages will be in kubuntu-ppa/beta18:24
Snowhog_Riddell: Thank you.18:24
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ubuntu_Hi folks. Im a sad panda :( Went to book my dual boot laptop and im getting the error "no module name found". This is before the grub. So im sitting on a live CD and i guess reinstalling grub would be a good idea?18:32
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SnowhogThat was wild!18:43
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amichaircan anyone think of a reason why 2 files out of thousands copied from winxp to kubuntu over smb (in dolphin) give an error that the file can't be read? (on the winxp box the two files are normal, readable and non-currupt zip files)18:46
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SnowhogGreyGeek: 'morning18:49
GreyGeekAfternoon here,  HI!18:49
SnowhogGreyGeek: Still morning in my neck of the world. Cold too.18:50
GreyGeekGot to run... my wife wants to go shopping.  (It's 50F here!  we are having a heat wave :)18:50
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SnowhogFreenode sure seems to be having issues this morning!19:06
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amichaircan anyone think of a reason why 2 files out of thousands copied from winxp to kubuntu over smb (in dolphin) give an error that the file can't be read? (on the winxp box the two files are normal, readable and non-currupt zip files)19:08
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Snowhogamichair: Are they open in WinZip or other archiver app on Winxp?19:11
amichairSnowhog: nope19:13
Snowhogamichair: Do the file names contain special characters?19:16
amichairSnowhog: nope19:16
amichairas far as I can tell, they're totally normal uninteresting files19:16
amichairnothing stands out about them19:16
Snowhogamichair: Out of curiosity, if you copy them to new names on the Winxp box, can they then be read?19:18
amichairSnowhog: that's what I just tried - and the copy (made within xp) copied ok (over smb to kubuntu)19:19
amichairwhile this works around the problem, I'd be very interested in finding what went wrong, or reporting a bug if necessary19:19
amichairand knowing it won't happen again :-)19:20
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sresu!KDE partition editor19:25
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eagles0513875hey gusy is anoyone on the netbook remix of maverick19:38
eagles0513875!ops19:38
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger19:38
eagles0513875hey guys not to bother you but can someone do something bout the people constantly pinging and timing out19:38
apacheloggerehm19:38
macoeagles0513875: what?19:39
macono19:39
apacheloggerno19:39
eagles0513875:-/19:39
eagles0513875apachelogger:  see19:39
macothat's called the internet being broken19:39
eagles0513875maco: you mean freenode19:39
eagles0513875:-/19:39
eagles0513875ok19:39
apacheloggerwell, at least the freenode part of the internet ;)19:39
macothe piece of the internet to which freenode is attached :P19:39
SnowhogThe netsplit really borked things here.19:39
eagles0513875ok sry to bother you guys19:39
macoall the ops can do is ban people who are being annoying19:39
eagles0513875thought ops could redirect people into the fix your internet channel19:39
apacheloggerlets ban everyone :P19:39
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apacheloggereagles0513875: there is nothing they can do19:39
macoeagles0513875: sure, if it was *their* network that was the problem19:39
apacheloggerit is not their fault19:39
eagles0513875ok19:39
eagles0513875sry to bother you guys19:39
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Khaoticis there an itunes like application20:02
macoamarok?20:03
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nemon82after first install , do i need to install nvidia drivers for desktop cube20:06
robotechnemon82: mm20:06
robotechnemon82: maybe20:06
robotechold nvidia card maybe no20:07
nemon82oh i think its new ones gtx260. well i should try i guess, thanks man20:07
robotechthe newest nvidia cards i think they work better with proprietry dirver20:07
robotechdriver20:07
nemon82I asked because, in desktop effects, I cannot make it enable20:08
haza1Hey folks... tried to fix my boot loaded and now when i start my computer i get the grub commandline.... whats happened here?20:10
* haza1 is a saaaaad panda20:10
ikoniahaza1: probably can't read your config so it drops to a shell20:12
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amichairhaza1: last time that happened to me was on a ntfs drive (and wubi), and a chkdsdk in windows fixed it. I don't know if this is relevant to you though.20:12
haza1Okay... well this is what happened initially.. i started the computer and got the @no module name found@. googled that and was told to reinstall the grub.20:13
haza1and now i have this problem.20:13
haza1I must have cocked up the installation of the grub :(20:14
Snowhogamichair: Out of curiosity, if you copy them to new names on the Winxp box, can they then be read? << previously asked during the chaos.20:14
amichairSnowhog: oh, thanks for remembering me :-) - I answered that: making a copy in windows and then copying the copy to kubuntu worked ok. this is the workaround I used, but I'd still like to know what's preventing the originals from copying, whether this is a bug, and how to prevent it from happening next time20:16
haza1Not sure where to go from here :(20:16
Snowhogamichair: Were those two files created on the Winxp box originally?20:17
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haza1I think maybe suicide is the next course of action20:18
amichairSnowhog: I suppose so. basically, it's a folder with a whole tree below it with ~25K files, I haven't touched in a long time. I wanted to copy them over to kubuntu for backup, as I barely use the xp box anymore20:18
amichairall but those two files were ok, and those two (unrelated to each other) consistently give the error20:19
amichairthey're not large, have standard names, and are perfectly ok on the windows box20:20
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Snowhogamichair: Well, blame it on Windows. :) At least the copying worked, so as you say, a work-around. More than one way to skin a cat as they say.20:21
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amichairyep. until next time I want to make a backup :-/20:21
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amichairSnowhog: is there any way to reset the smb handler dolphin uses (does this even make sense?)20:23
fabrizioso_back20:23
keksebaumhi20:40
keksebaumis there a ppa for kde 4.6?20:40
moetunesprobably not yet20:41
moetunes!ppa20:41
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.20:41
Snowhogamichair: Sorry - was 'on the other virtual desktop. I don't use Samba - only my laptop here - so I can't advise.20:46
amichairSnowhog: it's alright, I appreciate your good intentions :-)20:48
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Snowhogamichair: Can you rephrase the question though? What exactly are you desiring to do?20:49
* keksebaum wants 4.6 so hard :(20:50
amichairSnowhog: to figure out why these 2 specific files cannot be read via smb20:50
moetuneskeksebaum:  get the source from kde.org then :)20:50
keksebaummoetunes: sure, but a ppa is way more convient20:51
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Snowhogamichair: Personally, I don't believe it was any issue with smb, or even Linux. Something about them was sufficiently wrong that smb/Linux couldn't read them. I really believe that even though Windows had no problem with them, there was something amis with both.20:51
amichairSnowhog: most recently, I asked if there's some way to reset the smb system or something like that, in case something happened to it20:52
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Snowhogamichair: The reason I had you copy the files is that doing so create new files in a different location on the disc. If the orginals are on an area of the disc that is 'marginal', there could be issues accessing them 'under certain conditions.' I've seen that plenty of times in Windows itself.20:53
amichairSnowhog: the files themselves are consistently read ok (and being zip files, the archive tests ok with checksums etc.) from within windows20:54
Snowhogamichair: Test this by renaming the two original files to something unique for both. This keeps the files in the same location on the disc. Then see if Dolphin/smb can read the renamed files. If it can't, that pretty much nails the issue for me.20:54
amichairSnowhog: I just got an opportunity to try and access them over the LAN from another windows box, and I get an error as well - so you are right, there is something wrong with the source files (though I still don't know what)20:58
amichairthe contents of the files are ok, so maybe some specific sharing permissions or something (though I don't see anything different from other files)20:59
amichairor maybe windows' network protocol cache is corrupt or something21:00
Snowhogamichair: See my last comment.21:00
amichairSnowhog: what do you mean by 'unique for both'?21:03
Snowhogamichair: Just rename them with different names. That's all.21:04
amichairSnowhog: and does renaming change anything (permissions, etc.) other than the name?21:04
Snowhogamichair: The test here, is that renaming doesn't move the files off of their present location on the disc. If the area they occupy is marginal - going bad - this will help to confirm that.21:05
amichairrenamed file doesn't copy either21:05
amichairyou're right about that, but all other file properties remain unchanged as well, so it can still be anything21:06
amichairI think if the file content was bad it wouldn't pass the zip test (though not sure - I think it has checksums on everything)21:06
cpatrick2008does anybody know when kubuntu will release the packages for kde 4.6 beta 121:09
moetunesbest answer you'll get is   soon   :)21:10
Snowhogamichair: Well, as you found out, even attempting to copy from another Windows machine, the files couldn't be read. So, it isn't the OS, nor smb that is presenting the problem. It's the files, or as I believe, the location of the disc they are located on, that is the problem.21:10
Snowhogamichair: When was the last time that chkdsk was run on the Windows machine?21:12
amichairSnowhog: nailed it!21:14
amichairI had to uncheck 'use simple sharing' in the folder view properties in windows explorer, then that shows the security tab in file properties21:14
amichairfor some reason, I have absolutely no idea why, these to files didn't have 'Everyone' as allowed user21:14
amichairadding it solved the problem21:15
Snowhogamichair: Cool. Nice work.21:15
amichairthis windows box is not on a domain or anything, is single user, and I never messed with permissions on it, and these particular files are not interesting or different from the others in any way - so I have no idea how this came to be21:16
Snowhogamichair: Stuff happens. :)21:16
amichairbut at least I can sleep well at night knowing the case is closed :-)21:16
amichairSnowhog: thanks a lot for your advice (and patience!)21:17
Snowhogamichair: No problem. I learn as I try to help.21:17
Snowhogamichair: If nothing else, our conversation got you to thinking about the problem from 'outside' the box.21:18
amichair... and across the network ;-)21:18
Snowhogamichair: From a quote by Sherlock Holmes: "It is a capital mistake to theorize in advance of the facts."21:19
amichairtrue21:20
darkashello21:20
amichairthe problem is often knowing where to look for the facts :-)21:20
darkasis there any schedule for packaging the kde 4.6 beta?21:20
Snowhogamichair: The real issue one needs to learn to avoid, is being blinded by what we believe we see.21:20
valerianhello21:21
amichairtrue. It's interesting that that is the #1 advice for learning how to draw (sketches) as well.21:22
amichairpeople naturally tend to draw what they think they see, not what they see, and that's why it doesn't look too good21:22
Snowhogvalerian: What's your question?21:25
amichairdarkas (and others who asked): kde 4.6 beta is work in progress, and will be announced on kubuntu.org site when ready21:29
darkasamichair: ok, thanks :)21:30
darkascan you make any expectations?21:30
amichairdarkas: I don't really know, just passing on the answer from the dev channel21:31
darkasamichair: ok21:31
DiogenesWservus21:38
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* dustin_ is away: went to work21:43
alesanhi21:54
alesana function I use a lot is the suspend mode...21:55
alesanit was fairly OK on 9.04 and earlier, on 9.10 it began to fail occasionally, now on 10.10 is a complete DISASTER21:55
alesanbasically it never works and I have to shutdown the machine keeping the power button pressed for 10 seconds all the time21:56
alesananything that one can do?21:56
alesanI have a thinkpad which should be a fairly common machine...21:56
theprohi.. testing quassel irc on kubuntu..21:57
amichairthepro: it's working :-)21:58
theproyea, i noticed21:58
theproi'm currently testing it on VirtualBox :)21:59
theproi'll install it on my pc when i finish school (2 weeks)21:59
alesanwhy wait for school to finish? act now!22:00
theprohomework.. tests22:00
theprouhh and stuff like that22:00
alesancome on you know you can do it :)22:00
theproyea lol22:01
theproit's just that i gotta backup documents and stuff like that22:01
theprocause i'll remove buggy outdated windows xp22:01
alesanoh that is boring yes22:02
alesanwell winXP is the best windows OS anyway22:02
thepronot really, windows 7 is way more stable, but a little heavy on the ram22:02
theproguys, is it better keeping rekonq for browing or installing chromium (if it works)22:05
Peace-thepro: chomium works22:05
harolddongits probably best to use opera22:05
Peace-rekonq somestuff doens't work22:05
Peace-opera is closed22:06
Peace-but works22:06
shawnrFF4 beta is pretty fast22:06
harolddongregardless its still probably the ebst linux browser right now22:06
harolddongff4 beta is fast rendering but its still really sluggish as an app22:06
Peace-harolddong: all depend for your purpuse22:06
Peace-for /on22:07
Peace-for me  konqueros +webkit is enought22:07
shawnrit's not too bad with hardware accel22:07
Peace-enough22:07
theprois konqueror updated much?22:07
harolddongrekonq is going to be awesome when it gets a little more mature and has extensions22:07
shawnranyone tried IE9?22:08
Peace-thepro: konqueror and khtml is still developing22:08
theproshawnr: on windows yea22:08
Peace-you cna use webkit with konqueror..22:08
harolddongkonqueror is really a no go at this point22:08
shawnrdon't use windows, just curious about performance22:08
Peace-wekit+konquer= rekonq22:08
harolddongrekonq is the best option for straight kde web browsing22:09
theproshawnr: really good for html522:09
theproit does some amazing things22:09
Peace-harolddong: you can't think what you think is right ...22:09
theproi haven't tested other html5 browsers, but it seems to use graphic acceleration good enough22:09
Peace-not everyone use browser in the same way22:10
Peace-someone use only konqueror + blip tv with ogv22:10
Peace-instead of flash22:10
Peace-and stupid stuff like opera22:10
harolddongwell I assume every uses browsers to browse.  can we agree on that?  :P22:10
theprodepends. lol22:10
harolddongopera is pretty much the lightest browser on linux if that'swhat you care about22:11
harolddongI'm just saying22:11
Peace-i use konqueror for ftp for imageview and for youtube22:11
shawnrdepends on what you browse22:11
harolddongthis isn't an open source only channel its a kubuntu channel22:11
Peace-i would say try them all22:11
Peace-then decide if YOU like one or the others22:11
Peace-rekonq , konqueror webkitpart, opera chromium firefox22:12
theproguys i haven't used linux in years, but does putting ''sudo apt-get install chromium'' install chromium?22:12
harolddongI really only use opera now mainly or sometimes rekonq.  The only time I break out firefox anymore is if I need to use one of the extensions.  firefox on linux is just terrible22:12
Peace-thepro: nope22:12
Peace-thepro: press TAB To autocomplete22:12
Peace-should be chromium-browser22:13
theproah22:13
Peace-because there is a game that is called chromium22:13
Peace-or something22:13
SnowhogPeace-: chromium-bsu  - "In this game you are the captain of the cargo ship Chromium B.S.U."22:15
Peace-well.. Snowhog i... don't care of games22:15
Peace-i develop script and service menu for multimedia22:16
Peace-xD22:16
SnowhogPeace-: Same here. I do my online crossword puzzle daily, and that's the extent of my gaming. :)22:16
theprobtw guys, games on wine22:16
theprodo they run good?22:16
valentin_hey all22:16
alesanso chromium runs well on Linux?22:16
Peace-thepro: even here depends from the game22:16
valentin_question22:16
theprovalentin_: hey22:16
Peace-alesan: i use cromium here .22:16
alesando you need to use a joystick?22:16
valentin_does anyone know PCSX?22:17
theprokeyboard ftw.22:17
alesanPeace-, so it runs well or it crashes or similar?22:17
theproi'm testing chromium now...22:17
theprouhhh!22:17
theproalready found a bug on it22:17
theprooh nvm22:17
theprothat was me :P22:18
Peace-alesan: works , if you leave chromium opened for 24h maybe you could get some flash crahs xD22:18
alesanI mean the game22:18
theprolol..22:18
theprobtw guys, the taskbar is like.. small for me22:18
theprohttp://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9562/snapshot1fv.png22:19
Peace-http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-chormium022:19
Peace-thepro: ?22:19
theprois there anyway to resize it?22:20
Peace-thepro: ... of course...22:20
Peace-thepro: look at the mine..22:20
rorkthepro: right click > panel options > panel settings22:21
Peace-http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-thebar22:21
Peace-rebooting to kubuntu lucid22:22
alesandamn my ISP's SMTP is not working now22:22
alesanthat is the ISP where I have the mail account on22:22
alesanwhat can I do22:22
alesanmaybe try the SMTP of the provider I am using to access the internet?22:22
theprowhat's your isp?22:23
Snowhogalesan: If it is truely an ISP issue, call tghem.22:23
alesanthepro, which one22:23
alesanSnowhog, call like at the phone? do you live in the eighties? :)22:23
theprothe mail provider one22:23
alesanthepro, 1und1.de22:23
theprooh.22:23
alesanthe one I use to connect is "comcast"22:24
alesanand I am trying this one now... it seems it wants some authentication22:24
Lars_GGreets all.22:27
dufourhi22:27
Lars_GQuestion, any ideas what produces the double cashew here, and how to fix it? http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/680/errorkde.jpg22:27
rorkhi dufour22:27
SnowhogLars_G: Looks like you have two Panels running.22:28
Lars_Ghmm22:28
Lars_Gmaybe desktop and activity...22:28
dufourhow are you?22:28
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Lars_GIs there a command I can issue during cashew to show all panels (delineate them)?22:29
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SnowhogLars_G: Are both Panels 'active' - can you do things with either one?22:31
Lars_GSnowhog: I can see where one ends and where the other is...22:31
SnowhogLars_G: What I mean, is if you right-click on each one, do you get a pop-up on each one?22:32
fabrizioso_claydoh: Are you still here?22:34
Lars_Gthe cashews? only the top one22:34
Lars_GHere let me post an image that might help Snowhog22:34
SnowhogYou're running a netbook, yes?22:35
Lars_Gyes22:36
Lars_GHere i can see two things Snowhog http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6098/errorkde1.jpg22:36
Lars_GFirst, the top cashew lives inside a container... and second, under the bottom one to the right I can see a scrollbar behing.. I can even select up and down if I right click over the scrollbar22:37
Lars_GSnowhog: And I've setup plasma to use the netbook form, if that matters22:38
SnowhogLars_G: Out of curiosity, if you set System Settings > Activities to Desktop, do you still have two Panels?22:41
Lars_Ghmm22:42
Lars_Gchanging22:43
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Lars_GSnowhog: seems not http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1736/errorkde2.jpg22:47
SnowhogLars_G: Well, I'm not a netbook user - 17" laptop here - but I'd watch the behavior of both 'Panel's when in Netbook mode, to see what goes on with each.22:48
Lars_GYeah I'm trying to decipher it, it's odd22:49
SnowhogLars_G: Is it possible that it's a Panel size (length) issue??22:49
Lars_Gthe upper panel cashew lets me add pages, the lower (left when closed) seems to contain only the other cashew, and cannot add pages22:49
Lars_Git might be22:49
SnowhogLars_G: If the lower 'Panel' seems to be the containment for the Cashew, which is a widget, then its possible that the Cashew containment just needs to be resized.22:51
diablodfsomeone has tested the kde 4.5.3? What changes?22:52
Lars_GSnowhog: how can it be resized?22:52
Lars_GSweet, back to netbook plasma, and it's segging22:53
SnowhogLars_G: Nevermind on resizing it - can't be done. But just tried something - I add an Empty Panel. It looks just like your's. Can you right-click on the empty panel - not it's Cashew - and get a pop-up allowing you to remove the panel?22:55
Lars_GI'll try, when I can revive plasma-netbook :)22:56
diablodfWar in Rio de Janeiro, where we are. The traffickers are taking over everything22:58
Lars_Gdiablodf: where... what's going on?22:59
Lars_Gdiablodf: Riots? civil war? what's up man?23:00
wqapolDoes Kubuntu 10.04 has any firewall built-in? If so does it block any ports by default?23:02
Snowhogwqapol: See man ufw23:03
diablodfRio de Janeiro is at war! We have roughly 20,000 police on the streets. Traffickers are playing the terror. Innocent people killed!23:04
wqapolSnowhog: Thanks. ufw status says its disabled. How can I set it to autostart at bootup?23:05
Snowhogwqapol: ufw - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW23:05
Lars_Gdiablodf: Somthing to do with Vila Cruzeiro?23:06
diablodfyes. Now they will attack another slum!23:07
Psi-JackHmm.. Curious, how is Kubuntu, as-in KDE 4, with netbooks? Anyone tried it? This blasted unity stuff for 10.10 is about as worthless as it gets as far as usability.23:07
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fabriziosoHello claydoh23:15
fabriziosoI just installed kmymoney 4.5.1 from claydoh's ppa rep and found out that there is no HBCI support available. I read that this happened before but had been fixed meanwhile. So is this a regression issue or have I done something wrong. I'm using Lucid.23:16
claydohfabrizioso: buzy atm, but I dunno, perhaps I broke the package it is working in Maverick will look at it23:19
fabriziosoThanks, great!23:20
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harolddongis there a way to get backintime to work on 4.5?  I keep getting an error with pykde http://pastebin.com/h7hguZXP23:34
harolddongI've looked online and others seem to have had the issue in the past and now and the consensus seems to be that's it's not a backintime issue.  Does anybody know of a fix?23:35
claydohfabrizioso: i think i found my packaging error, will see if I can fix it23:38
claydohlater tonight or tomorrow night23:38
fabriziosoclaydoh: wow, thx for the quick check! Great support!23:40
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claydohharolddong: https://launchpad.net/~bit-team/+archive/stable23:40
naviretlavhi I have problem with my kubuntu 10.1023:41
naviretlavAfter upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10 ... I can't do any Updates ! Update manager is freesing23:42
naviretlavany ideas how to fix it ?23:42
moetunesnaviretlav:  in konsole try   sudo apt-get install -f23:45
naviretlavok , I have some libs to auto remove23:46
harolddongclaydoh: I installed from that repo last night but I am still having the same problem.  should I try to remove, purge and then reinstall?23:47
EagleScreenhello23:48
claydohharolddong: the ppa may not be properly updating all the packages - just one. try uninstalling all backintime packages, and then try again23:52
claydohharolddong: it is only offering me to upgrade the *-common package, and not the main one, so there is a mismatch, which sounds like the reason for your error23:53
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harolddongok I'll try it23:58

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