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[00:35] <Vrejdac> hi I'd like to know why my kubuntu 10.10 is so slow
[00:35] <serenity> slow in which manner?
[00:36] <owner_> k
[00:36] <Vrejdac> I got a x64 amdX2 processor with 3Gb of ram and a hdd of 320Gb
[00:37] <Vrejdac> windows move jerkily
[00:37] <serenity> Vrejdac: are you using compiz, or kwin?
[00:37] <Vrejdac> Kickoff menu is slow to open
[00:37] <Vrejdac> Kwin
[00:38] <Vrejdac> and the softwares are slow
[00:39] <Snowhog> Vrejdac: What video card do you have?
[00:40] <Vrejdac> Snowhog, a Nvidia 8400GS
[00:40] <serenity_> which driver?
[00:41] <Vrejdac> serenity I really don't know
[00:42] <serenity> Vrejdac: open up a terminal and type nvidia-settings
[00:42] <serenity> what happens?
[00:46] <Vrejdac> serenity a windows appears
[00:46] <Vrejdac> but there's no info concerning the drivers
[00:47] <wqapol> Click Kickoffmenu>Applications>System>Hardware Drivers. It should  detect appropriate drivers to install for your GC.
[00:48] <serenity> wqapol: that was my next try ;)
[00:48] <Vrejdac> wqapol t's the number 173 which is recommanded
[00:48] <wqapol> Vrejdac: Sure go ahead install it
[00:49] <serenity> this driver will increase the performance of your desktop effects like moving windows etc
[00:49] <Vrejdac> wqapol it's installed
[00:49] <wqapol> Vrejdac: Restart ?
[00:50] <Vrejdac> serenity, of course I have the desktop effects like the cube but these effects are slow
[00:50] <Vrejdac> wqapol, already done
[00:51] <serenity> Vrejdac: try to disable the blur effect
[00:53] <wqapol> Vrejdac: For the PC of that specs it should have been reasonably fast, i mean very fast.
[00:54] <wqapol> Vrejdac: You can check xorg.conf if nvidia drivers are being loaded.
[00:55] <wqapol> Vrejdac: Open terminal. sudo nano /etx/x11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <Vrejdac> wqapol it's displayed "GNU nano 2.2.4"
[01:11] <wqapol> Vrejdac: Sorry its X11 (capital X)
[01:11] <Vrejdac> wqapol what's the difference ?
[01:12] <wqapol> Vrejdac: unix is case sensitive so x / X are different
[01:12] <wqapol> Vrejdac: check the text next to Driver. Is it vesa or nvidia?
[01:14] <wqapol> ahh typo again . its etc not etx.  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:14] <Vrejdac> wqapolI don't see the text
[01:14] <Vrejdac> it's the same thing
[01:15] <Vrejdac> the terminal seems to change into a text editor
[01:16] <wqapol> Vrejdac: can you just browse to it in the browser instead?
[01:17] <wqapol> Vrejdac: When you open the file browser (Dolphin) on left side click root then etc then X11 then xorg.conf
[01:17] <Vrejdac> wqapol, it's a file ?
[01:17] <Vrejdac> I can't see it
[01:17] <wqapol> Vrejdac: yes
[01:18] <Vrejdac> there are 8 repertory and 7 files but not Xorg.conf
[01:20] <wqapol> Vrejdac: I dont know it should have existed as I know, I wonder how is it booting up properly.  May be somone knowledgeable will come up soon .
[01:20] <moetunes> I would check the X log for what driver is being used
[01:21] <moetunes> in konsole   grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:23] <Vrejdac> moetunes and then ?
[01:23] <moetunes> read what driver it is using - there will be a few lines to go through
[01:24] <moetunes> or just paste the X log
[01:24] <moetunes> !paste
[01:24] <Vrejdac> moetunes, I could paste it to you
[01:25] <moetunes> that's fine
[01:26] <Vrejdac> moetunes:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/536902/
[01:26] <moetunes> k
[01:27] <moetunes> Vrejdac:  that's not the whole file is it? - there should be some lines at the top about the config files X is using
[01:28] <Vrejdac> moetunes it the whole file, but I didnt copy the command line.
[01:28] <moetunes> anyway it is not using the 3d graphics driver it is using the opensource ones
[01:29] <Vrejdac> ouchh
[01:29] <moetunes> nouveau = opensource nvidia driver
[01:30] <Vrejdac> so I didnt update
[01:30] <moetunes> nope
[01:31] <Vrejdac> Scheiß. Okay mates I'm weary I've to sleep
[01:31] <Vrejdac> see you tomorow
[01:31] <Vrejdac> and thanks to all
[01:32] <moetunes> luck
[01:37] <wqapol> I am on kubuntu 10.04 now. Since I installed it yesterday, internet is poor (most of the times return 404 after long loading). IRC, torrent work perfectly fine. tried stopping them but still the same. Any ideas?
[01:37] <valorie> which browser are you using, wq
[01:37] <valorie> oops, wqapol
[01:38] <wqapol> tried setting opendns and google dns in resolv.conf.
[01:38] <wqapol> wqapol: firefox and chrome
[01:38] <valorie> and they are both slow?
[01:38] <valorie> hmmm
[01:39] <valorie> you might try konqueror, and /or rekonq
[01:39] <wqapol> valorie: not slow in strictest sense, , when they load they load in a flash, but some times it keeps on loading and returns 404
[01:39] <wqapol> will try that now
[01:39] <valorie> that sounds like your ISP, maybe
[01:39] <valorie> throttling httpd
[01:40]  * valorie goes afk for a bit
[01:40] <wqapol> valorie: i have been suspecting that, but torrents download without any interrruptions in speed.
[01:40] <moetunes> I just name my router as the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:42] <wqapol> moetunes: you mean 192.168.1.1 ?
[01:42] <moetunes> yep
[01:43] <wqapol> yes it was so initially.
[02:01] <leandro_IFF> !List
[02:10] <b14ck> Hi all. I just started using kubuntu. I've got a simple problem:
[02:10] <b14ck> I've got two sound sources (both are detected). A logitech speaker system, and a pair of USB headphones.
[02:10] <b14ck> I'd like to be able to switch between the two using the USB headphones' on/off switch, is this possible?
[02:11] <b14ck> Right now, if I want to switch output devices, I have to open the kmix applet, and navigate through the menus to switch it.
[02:11] <b14ck> EG: I have to select the `master channel` from the kmix menu.
[02:11] <b14ck> I'm using kubuntu 10.10.
[02:18] <valorie> hmmm, have you tried using pavucontrol?
[02:18] <b14ck> Nope, what is that?
[02:19] <valorie> I had to use it once, and those changes stuck
[02:19] <valorie> it is the gui for controlling pulseaudio
[02:19]  * b14ck installs
[02:19] <b14ck> I'll check it out, thanks :)
[02:19] <valorie> now I never have to even open up kmix
[02:19] <valorie> good luck!
[02:19] <b14ck> heh
[02:19] <b14ck> Ok got it open, let'
[02:20] <b14ck> *Let's see now...
[02:21] <b14ck> valorie: were you able to use it to switch between your speakers and headphoens?
[02:22] <valorie> that seems to be automatic now
[02:22] <valorie> I plug them in, and the sound goes into them
[02:22] <valorie> unplug them, and it's back in the speakers
[02:22] <b14ck> Oh I see.
[02:22] <b14ck> Let me try to do that then.
[02:22] <valorie> which is the standard
[02:23] <b14ck> Do you still run kmix?
[02:23] <b14ck> To get volume control on your keyboard and what not?
[02:25] <b14ck> actually
[02:25] <b14ck> im going to rebood and check it out
[02:25] <b14ck> brb
[02:28] <valorie> I have the widget
[02:50] <b14ck> Hi everyone, looks like I still can't get my headphones working.
[02:50] <b14ck> They work under gnome which is weird.
[02:50] <b14ck> But I can't actually seem to get *any* audio out of them under kde.
[02:51] <gr8m8> I would open alsamixer ina terminal and make sure they aren't muted
[02:51] <b14ck> hrm
[02:51] <b14ck> in alsamixer it shows <headphon> as 00
[02:51] <b14ck> But I'm using pulseaudio I believe..
[02:52] <b14ck> And I also can't seem to adjust the <headphon> levels in alsamixer. It just stays at 00
[02:53] <b14ck> Oh wait, if I hit f6 (select sound card) and swtich to my usb headphones, I can then altar the volume levels (PCM).
[02:55] <b14ck> Going to give this method a try: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071124033643AAoxE3b brb
[03:00] <RadSurfer> How do I properly mount a UDF dvd in kubuntu?
[03:00] <valorie> heh
[03:00] <valorie> that was a 3 year-old question and answer
[03:00] <b14ck> Hrm, no good :(
[03:00] <b14ck> Yah, I figured I'd give it a try anyhow though
[03:01] <valorie> pavucontrol didn't do the trick for you/
[03:01] <valorie> ?
[03:01] <b14ck> Nope =/
[03:01] <b14ck> It shows my headphone device.
[03:01] <valorie> oh, that sucks
[03:01] <b14ck> But won't play anything through it.
[03:01] <b14ck> Like, if I go to pavucontrol->Output Devices
[03:01] <b14ck> I see them both listed there.
[03:01] <b14ck> But I have no idea how to switch to the headphones (ad01 analog stereo)
[03:02] <RadSurfer> Can someone _please_ help with mounting a UDF dvd
[03:04] <gr8m8> what's a udf dvd?
[03:04] <gr8m8> !mount
[03:04] <gr8m8> who changed that botlink?
[03:06] <RadSurfer> anyone have advice on how to mount a udf dvd in kubuntu?
[03:07] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: have you made a dir to mount it to?
[03:07] <RadSurfer> I have temporary folders, yes
[03:07] <RadSurfer> But nothing I've tried is working yet
[03:09] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/dvd /path/to/mount/dir   normally works - what have you tried?
[03:09] <RadSurfer> why does fstab have no references to cdrom/dvd ?
[03:09] <gr8m8> udev does it now
[03:09] <gr8m8> !udev
[03:09] <gr8m8> !info udev
[03:10] <RadSurfer> how can I have a '/path/to/dvd' when it isn't recognized yet?
[03:10] <RadSurfer> sdc something or other?
[03:10] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: check in the /media dir
[03:10] <RadSurfer> there is not 'cdrom' in /media presently
[03:11] <RadSurfer> only floppy
[03:11] <RadSurfer> which is always present
[03:11] <RadSurfer> how to I determine my DVD drives designation please? sd(?)
[03:12] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: if you only have one hdd it will be sdb
[03:13] <RadSurfer> I get this: "ount -t udf /dev/sdb /home/simon/folder     # mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist
[03:13] <gr8m8> you could do   ls /dev | grep sd
[03:13] <RadSurfer> sda, sda 1 - 5 is reported
[03:14] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: for some reason the drive isn't recognised - is it old ?
[03:14] <RadSurfer> drive worked 100% in Sidux, and under centos, fedora, mandriva, etc.
[03:14] <RadSurfer> Why would kubuntu be any exception.
[03:15] <gr8m8> everything works until it doesn't...
[03:15] <RadSurfer> and its only "not recognized" when it doesn't like a particular disc thats in it
[03:15] <RadSurfer> put a "valid" disc in and its fine
[03:15] <gr8m8> so other disks work ok?
[03:15] <gr8m8> ok
[03:15] <RadSurfer> yes! its only not reading udf and encrypted discs
[03:15] <RadSurfer> this is only udf
[03:16] <RadSurfer> any advice?
[03:16] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: you might have to burn them at a slower rate
[03:16] <RadSurfer> sounds like rubbish
[03:16] <RadSurfer> how can so many other distros not have issues
[03:16] <gr8m8> there's nothing I know of to get disk drives recognising a disk
[03:16] <RadSurfer> well pooh.
[03:16] <RadSurfer> at this rate I'm going to Aptosid
[03:17] <gr8m8> heh sorry
[03:17] <RadSurfer> if I linked to another PC that could read this file, I could network it over. but sheesh!
[03:17] <gr8m8> it could be the drive starting to fail too
[03:17] <RadSurfer> doubtful
[03:18] <gr8m8> you can see inside and know the laser is still lined up right?
[03:18] <RadSurfer> it reads normal data dvd's + and - flawlessly, with no skips
[03:19] <RadSurfer> it plays normal standard dvd videos with no skips
[03:19] <gr8m8> there's nothing more I can add..
[03:19] <RadSurfer> I thank you for your time. :-)
[03:20] <gr8m8> sorry I couldn't help more
[03:24] <Snowhog> gr8m8: For future, udftools provides the support in Kubuntu for UDF Filesystems and DVD/CD-R(W) drives. It isn't installed by default.
[03:25] <gr8m8> Snowhog: it was as simple as that?
[03:26] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: see what Snowhog said?
[03:27] <RadSurfer> what?
[03:27] <gr8m8> install udftools
[03:27] <RadSurfer> ah
[03:27] <RadSurfer> Okay. Testing.
[03:27] <gr8m8> luck
[03:28] <RadSurfer> something U have to reboot for :)
[03:29] <gr8m8> heh - if it was easy everyone would do it :)
[03:29] <RadSurfer> brb
[03:34] <RadSurfer> Snowhog && gr8m8: udftools did it! Thank you!
[03:34] <Snowhog> RadSurfer: Cool.
[03:35] <RadSurfer> I honestly thought that seemed transparent before... maybe I needed to install something back then too. This works. all that matters.
[03:41] <RadSurfer> Snowhog && gr8m8: whoopsie: http://pastebin.ca/2003466
[03:41] <RadSurfer> I can't actually access it
[03:42] <RadSurfer> there's no manpage for udftools either
[03:43] <Snowhog> RadSurfer: udftools contains   mkudffs - Format a device, creating an empty UDF filesystem
[03:43] <Snowhog>   cdrwtool - Low-level drive management (e.g. set writing speed, format)
[03:43] <Snowhog>   pktsetup - Set up a packet writing device (/dev/pktcdvd0) for a drive
[03:43] <Snowhog>   wrudf - Maintains a UDF filesystem (undocumented)
[03:43] <FloodBotK1> Snowhog: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <Snowhog> FloodBotK1: Sorry.
[03:43] <RadSurfer> this is nonsense
[03:43] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: try leaving out the -t option and see what mount figures out on its' own
[03:43] <RadSurfer> I never had to go out of my way before
[03:44] <Snowhog> RadSurfer: Was the disc formatted in Vista?
[03:44] <RadSurfer> whats vista?
[03:44] <Snowhog> RadSurfer: hehe
[03:44] <gr8m8> heh
[03:46] <RadSurfer> http://pastebin.ca/2003467
[03:46] <RadSurfer> now what?
[03:47] <gr8m8> RadSurfer: leave the -t udf option out I meant - udf on it's own will do nothing
[03:48] <gr8m8> 'cept confuse matters
[03:48] <RadSurfer> "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[03:49] <RadSurfer> even after installing udftools :(
[03:49] <RadSurfer> sure fstab doesn't need to add that line?
[03:49] <gr8m8> ok - seems you are outta luck - I'll see what google.com/linux returns
[03:50] <RadSurfer> thought I had it, but theres no access
[03:51] <Snowhog> RadSurfer: libudf0  -  This library is made to read and write UDF filesystems; those filesystems are mainly used on DVDs. It isn't a dependancy of udftools. You might see what you get after installing it?
[03:52] <gr8m8> http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount - gives options for mounting udf - seems you need to have some options
[03:55] <RadSurfer> options but no working examples.
[03:56] <RadSurfer> drive starts up sometimes, as if its trying to read it, then apparently just rejects it
[03:56] <gr8m8> I noticed that - google.com/linux is your friend
[04:15] <Snowhog> RadSurfer: One still has to ask what OS was used to create the disc you can't read in Kubuntu. Take a look at this: http://superuser.com/questions/52547/problems-with-mounting-udf-dvds-in-ubuntu
[04:20] <claydoh> Snowhog: you are tireless dude :) hello and good nite, I am off to bed
[04:21] <gr8m8> all Pauls are tough as nails
[04:23] <Snowhog> claydoh: gn8 :)
[04:23] <valorie> heh, they are
[04:23] <valorie> I've known a few, and they are all tough
[05:14] <jschall> is there a PPA to install linux 2.6.36 and does it break anything?
[05:15] <gr8m8> !ppa
[05:18] <Snowhog> gr8m8: Should RadSurfer return, he should look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/635499 and add to it.
[05:18] <gr8m8> Snowhog: ok :)
[05:21] <andrewh192> does anyone know what the command is on bash to find the model of my network/modem card on my laptop
[05:21] <Snowhog> andrewh192: lspci
[05:22] <andrewh192> thanx
[05:35] <echolist1> hello
[05:39] <Snowhog> echolist1: Problem? Question?
[05:39] <echolist1> can someone tell me about connecting a usb cdma modem ?
[05:41] <Snowhog> echolist1: See http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3114691.msg248588#msg248588
[05:42] <echolist1> ok, thanks snowhog :D
[06:08] <Guest47299> Anyone in here running Kde 4.5?
[06:09] <Snowhog> Guest47299: 4.5.3
[06:09] <Guest47299> Snowhog, does it run about the same as 3.5? I tried upgrading to kubuntu earlier and it was SLOWW
[06:10] <Snowhog> Guest47299: That depends. Do you have an Nvidia graphics card?
[06:10] <Guest47299> Snowhog, nvidia 8400 GS 512mb
[06:11] <Snowhog> Guest47299: Click on K Menu > System > Additional Drivers to load the recommended driver.
[06:12] <Guest47299> snowhog, i am running the recommended drivers right now, I think what happen when I updated it to Kubuntu-desktop it installed the old Kde 4.0 not the Kde 4.55
[06:12] <Guest47299> *4.5
[06:43] <echolist1> hello
[06:44] <therock> help. I have an open proxi. It brings into trouble. This is the only service provider I can get by now. What can I do to get out of it..?
[06:49] <moetunes> where did you set thjings up to use an open proxy
[06:50] <therock> I just connect directly to internet. I have a superslow internet connection.
[06:52] <moetunes> I'm amazed you can connect here as open proxies aren't allowed
[06:54] <therock> Yes, I cannot connect using quassel and many progs.
[06:54] <valorie> [22:42] --> therock has joined this channel (de7c030e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.222.124.3.14).
[06:54] <therock> But I need help
[06:54] <valorie> I don't think it's forbidden to get to the webapp
[06:56] <therock> Is it still forbidden to use for webapp?
[06:57] <valorie> you're here
[06:57] <valorie> lol
[06:58] <therock> May I ask. How much do you pay for your connection? How fast is it..?
[06:59] <therock> I think people are annoying internet in this country.
[06:59] <moetunes> which country?
[07:03] <therock> Im in Indonesia, asia.
[07:03] <echolist1> wakakak i think therock same with me :D
[07:06] <therock> echolist1: where do you live?
[07:06] <echolist1> my connection just 154 kbps :))
[07:06] <echolist1> same with you indonesia :D
[07:07] <therock> I cannot get indosat through here..
[07:07] <therock> exept this only telkom flexxxxxi, grrrrr..
[07:08] <echolist1> hahaha, you in kalimantan ?
[07:08] <therock> no either to speedy.
[07:08] <therock> like kind of it
[07:08] <therock> im in a village
[07:08] <therock> farmering
[07:11] <therock> everytime I refresh package on synaptic, I got this message: W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DB141E2302FDF932
[07:12] <therock> its because of I use open proxi, right?
[07:13] <valorie> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/809-debian-apt-get-no-pubkey-gpg-error
[07:13] <valorie> no, it's because the pubkey wasn't fetched
[07:13] <valorie> you can fetch it manually though
[07:14] <valorie> line noise is more likely the problem
[07:14] <valorie> I used to see that sort of stuff all the time when I used dialup
[07:17] <therock> valorie: thankyou.. :)
[07:17] <valorie> you are very welcome
[07:18] <valorie> that's why we're here
[07:20] <andrewh192> hey, anyone here have any experience with Mozilla's Thunderbird?
[07:21] <moetunes> I use it
[07:21] <andrewh192> do you happen to use the calender feature as well?
[07:21] <moetunes> nope sorry
[07:21] <andrewh192> oh
[07:22] <andrewh192> i am running into a problem when i synced my google calender to it, it brought up a bunch of stuff thatt was on my google calender in a list, and it gave me the choice of either Snoozing the alarm, or dismissing it
[07:23] <andrewh192> when i would press either/or it wouldn't do anything except spit out an error message in the logs
[07:23] <andrewh192> just was wondering if anyone knew about that apparent bug, or had any ideas of how to fix it...
[07:28] <therock> What progs might best to editing svgz images..?
[07:29] <andrewh192> therock: i wouldn't hold ur breath
[07:29] <andrewh192> it seems that there isn't many if any people actually on right now
[07:29] <andrewh192> its sorta late in the night too
[07:29] <andrewh192> my best bet is to wait til tomorrow and ask during the day
[07:30] <therock> oh, sorry.. i didnt know that :)
[07:32] <rats__> therock: i dont know for sure but inkscape might work
[07:35] <rats__> now that im looking maybe not sry
[07:35] <therock> rats__: thankyou. :)
[07:41] <rats__> therock:  thank you that ? led me to this link http://158.193.150.10/linuxlist/linuxlist/node3.html
[07:45] <the1weba0> hi for everyone!
[08:28] <Snowhog> ubottu: !help
[09:43] <DiogenesW> servus
[09:51] <tguru89> hello everyone
[09:51] <tguru89> I have a question regarding sdk setup on kubuntu
[09:58] <rork> !ask | tguru89
[10:00] <tguru89> okay. well i downloaded the android sdk and i had moved it into the path. rebooted so that the changes would take effect. when i try the command adb devices it tells me no such file or directory
[10:03] <tguru89> Another note, the adb icon is a big gear, and it says it is executable but double clicking it does nothing
[10:11] <ct529> hi guys! you now the kubuntu screen that appears after grub? where is it stored?
[10:12] <ct529> I would,like to modify it, but cannot find where it is.
[10:13] <moetunes> the splash screen during boot?
[10:13] <ct529> moetunes: yes
[10:14] <moetunes> that's called plymouth iirc - you need a theme for it
[10:14] <ct529> thanks .... I have installed nvidia drivers because nouveaux does not support cuda or composite
[10:15] <ct529> moetunes: but not the splash screen is horrible
[10:15] <ct529> moetunes: and I installed composite to show kubuntu off to friends and colleagues to convince them to switch off to kubuntu
[10:15] <ct529> moetunes: but now the splash screen is horrible, very UN-convincing
[10:16] <moetunes> search for a theme then - I've never bothetred with it
[10:16] <moetunes> !usplash
[10:16] <moetunes> is that still valid?
[10:16] <ct529> moetunes: don't know
[10:17] <moetunes> me neither
[10:17] <ct529> moetunes: do you know whether it is possible to force a specific screen resolution at boot time? like 1920 x 1200?
[10:18] <moetunes> you can do that in /etc/default/grub - but be careful that you use an appropriate res
[10:18] <ct529> moetunes: in what sense apporpriate?
[10:19] <moetunes> if you choose one too large for the framebuffer you won't see the grub menu
[10:19] <moetunes> !grub2
[10:21] <alpha-aquilae> hello, i am under kubuntu 10.04, i can't set vpn connexion using "Network Connexions" in Configure-KDE Control Module, in the tab vpn, the button "+ Add..." is inactive, how can i fox that?
[10:21] <ct529> moetunes: thanks a lot you have been very helpful
[10:21] <moetunes> np :)
[10:22] <tguru89> Should I be able to execute a file that is categorized executable by double-clicking it?
[10:22] <moetunes> tguru89:  yep but if it is an icon and has errors it won't do anything
[10:24] <tguru89> So then I must have errors... I am trying to set up Android SDK so I can use adb for my mobile device
[10:24] <ct529> let's reboot and see what happens :-)
[10:25] <moetunes> tguru89:  I know nothing about that - check the path you have and that it is executable
[10:26] <tguru89> I am dual booting kubutu with windows and i just installed it. I just noticed that i had bug fixes that needed to be done, so I will reboot and be right back.
[10:26] <moetunes> k
[10:30] <tguru89> I'm back
[10:31] <DiogenesW> i'd like to use my monitor much like a picture on the wall when i don't use the computer, so it shouldn't switch off after ten minutes or so,m which it does, despite switching of power saveing in the preferences
[10:31] <DiogenesW> what can i do now?
[10:32] <moetunes> in konsole do   xset -q   and see if dpms is on
[10:33] <DiogenesW> "DPMS is enabled" ...
[10:34] <DiogenesW> should i use "xset -dpms"?
[10:34] <DiogenesW> (asked after having taken a look on the output of "xset --help")
[10:35] <moetunes> yep
[10:35] <moetunes> then check with   xset -q   again
[10:35] <DiogenesW> when? after having logged on (in the autostart perhaps ...)=
[10:36] <moetunes> autostart would be ok or .xinitrc if you use it
[10:36] <DiogenesW> no it says "... disabled"
[10:36] <moetunes> sweet
[10:36] <DiogenesW> thanks
[10:36] <DiogenesW> what's sweet?
[10:36] <noomin> i'm using an external monitor attached to a laptop. on startup, it constantly resets the video size on the main display to clone the internal... is there a way to lock in that change, but with fallback in the event the laptop leaves the desk?
[10:36] <moetunes> that it is disabled - sometimes that doesn't work
[10:37] <DiogenesW> strange ...
[10:37] <moetunes> diff cards react diff ways
[10:37] <moetunes> !xrandr | noomin
[10:37] <noomin> not running dual screen -- laptop screen won't fiton desk w/ larger monitor...
[10:38] <noomin> does that matter? is xrandr still useful ?
[10:38] <moetunes> noomin:  I would put a xrandr command for the external in autostarted apps then
[10:39] <noomin> will it fail gracefully if the monitor is gone?
[10:39] <moetunes> you could read the X log to see why it does that too
[10:39] <moetunes> probably
[10:39] <amichair> moetunes: what's the difference between xrandr and TwinView (NVidia)?
[10:39] <moetunes> amichair:  you can't use xrandr with the nvidia driver iirc
[10:40] <moetunes> nvidia does it thier own way
[10:40] <amichair> ok
[10:41] <moetunes> nvidia still makes a xorg.conf
[10:41] <moetunes> archaic
[10:52] <ct529> moetunes: nope it does not work
[10:52] <u19809> Hi all, I have upgrade to 10.10 and now my X system does not come up anymore ... I have an nvidia 8600 GT graphics card
[10:53] <moetunes> ct529:  did you do the update-grub thing mention in the file /etc/default/grub or what's on the wiki page?
[10:53] <noomin> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 -- the example solves my problem exactly :-)
[10:54] <bubu> ciao
[10:54] <bubu> !list
[10:55] <moetunes> u19809:  you could read the X log to find out why with   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log   from a tty
[10:55] <ct529> moetunes: yes I did
[10:55] <moetunes> ct529:  then what didn't work?
[10:56] <ct529> no splash screen at all, just a black screen with a few boot messages
[10:56] <u19809> moetunes : there are no EE messages ... a few WW with modes that are not supported.  Oddly when I start xinit.  my linux system crashes (cannot go back to console and need to reboot)  I have downloaded the latest NVIDIA drivers
[10:58] <moetunes> u19809:  was a xorg.conf file made when you installed the drivers?
[10:58] <ct529> moetunes: that should be right? -> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash video=vesafb"
[10:59] <u19809> Originally I upgraded from a 9.04 (first going to 10.04 and then 10.10) but when I installed the latest NVIDIA drivers It asked to generate a new Xorg and I said yes ... actually my xorg.conf looks 'normal'
[10:59] <moetunes> ct529:  not from what I know - I would have edited the line about the gfxmode and set the size I knew the framebuffer handled
[11:00] <ct529> I do not understand sorry, this is what is suggested in the README file
[11:00] <ct529> moetunes: which line about the gfxmode?
[11:01] <u19809> moetunes : if I just run X from the console I get a black screen with a view colored blocks on it and my linux server crashed (hard reset needed).  So I think it is more than a bad config since generally that would just stop the X server
[11:01] <moetunes> ct529:  one that looks like   GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768x16
[11:02] <ct529> moetunes: let's try again
[11:02] <u19809> moetunes : also when I downgrade to X version 1.7.2 (currently 1.9.0) my X display starts but sometimes I am unable to click on certain windows ... (focus seems to be confused)
[11:02] <moetunes> u19809:  sounds like a bad driver install - you can move the xorg.conf and let X pick its' own driver to see if it works
[11:03] <u19809> move away and just start X without xorg you mean ?
[11:03] <moetunes> u19809:  yep - just to get X started
[11:05] <u19809> moetunes : that gives a black screen but no crash (could switch back to console).  Got 2 EE messages : failed to load module nouveau and failed to initialize glx extensions (compatible nvidia driver not found)
[11:05] <ct529> moetunes: noep .... how do I know what the framebuffer sufforts? and I haev to activate the framebuffer as well
[11:06] <moetunes> u19809:  maybe the nvidia driver install gets in the way - I never use the proprietry drivers
[11:07] <ct529> moetunes: I neve ruse prpoprietary drivers, but in this case nouveau does not support CUDA
[11:07] <moetunes> ct529:  afaik the frmabuffer should run  - I found my res by trial and error
[11:07] <ct529> moetunes: I need for work
[11:07] <ct529> moetunes: lt's try again
[11:07] <moetunes> ct529:  then don't play with it
[11:08] <u19809> moetunes : i just let the nvidia generate a new xorg.conf and at least I can login ... !
[11:08] <moetunes> u19809:  it's a start
[11:09] <u19809> tv seems too work so v4l seems to work too ...
[11:09] <u19809> how can I test GLX ?
[11:09] <moetunes> I see more ppl having trouble with the nvidia driver install then most other things
[11:09] <u19809> 3D accell does not seem to work
[11:10] <moetunes> u19809:  glxgears is one way
[11:10] <moetunes> glxinfo too
[11:10] <u19809> moetunes : does not seem to be installed
[11:11] <moetunes> u19809:  try in konsole   grep glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:13] <u19809> moetunes : seems loaded ...
[11:14] <moetunes> u19809:  your card is getting a bit old - maybe the newer drivers don't support it so well
[11:14] <moetunes> relitivley speaking
[11:14] <moetunes> *relativly
[11:14] <moetunes> neither of those look right
[11:15] <u19809> moetunes : nah don't think so since the nvidia proprietary driver supports all
[11:15] <moetunes> it was a guess
[11:15] <u19809> I just activated my 'desktop cube' and it seems to work so I presume glx works too
[11:15] <moetunes> cool
[11:16] <moetunes> hello Peace- :)
[11:16] <u19809> just added 6 more desktops and can see a nice carrousel of screens
[11:16] <moetunes> sounds like it is working ok then
[11:16] <Peace-> hi moetunes
[11:27] <gj1006> My Microphone doesn't works with Kubuntu. Can someone help me?
[11:29] <gj1006> There is no control for it in KMix
[11:30] <amichair> gj1006: maybe try runnin alsamixer, and play around with both microphone and capture devices (it took me a while too, at the time)
[11:30] <Peace-> gj1006: ok i can help you
[11:30] <rork> gj1006: in Settings > Configure Channels you can add channels to Kmix
[11:30] <Peace-> i guess
[11:31] <Peace-> rork: 10.10 or 10.04
[11:31] <gj1006> There is no other channel shown
[11:31] <rork> Peace-, gj1006: 10.04
[11:32] <gj1006> 10.10
[11:33] <Peace-> rork: so open konsole and type  :  alsamier -V all
[11:33] <Peace-> rork: then screenshot
[11:33] <Peace-> !imagebin | rork
[11:35] <rork> Peace-: Why would you want that screenshot? I do not have a problem
[11:35] <gj1006> http://imagebin.org/125044
[11:36] <Peace-> rork: sorry was for gj1006
[11:37] <Peace-> gj1006: sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all
[11:37] <Peace-> gj1006: rec /tmp/temp.wav
[11:37] <Peace-> CRTL C to stop recording
[11:37] <Peace-> then
[11:37] <Peace-> play /tmp/temp.wav
[11:38] <gj1006> Nothing
[11:39] <Peace-> gj1006: could you check if you have capture ?
[11:39] <Peace-> alsamixer -V all
[11:39] <Peace-> could show only some volume controllers
[11:40] <Peace-> make sure , moving with arrows left and right,
[11:40] <Peace-> that you have only controlleer that you have showed to me on the screenshot
[11:40] <Peace-> gj1006: it's a laptop?
[12:31] <khashmeshab> hello everybody
[12:32] <khashmeshab> i have a problem: i need to install kde on my ubuntu installation
[12:32] <khashmeshab> but i don't have an internet connection on it
[12:35] <khashmeshab> sorry i'm facing connection difficaulties now
[12:35] <o0ze> khashmeshab: does it have any networking ? then you could use apt-proxy
[12:35] <khashmeshab> so if anybody sent an answer, please resend them
[12:35] <khashmeshab> no, we have moved to a new house and the ADSL connection is not yet ready
[12:37] <o0ze> install from cd/dvd/usb ?
[12:37] <o0ze> can add such a source in the sourceslist
[12:54] <fabrizioso> Hello claydoh, are you here?
[12:58] <fabrizioso> I just installed kmymoney 4.5.1 from claydoh's ppa rep and found out that there is no HBCI support available. I read that this happened before but had been fixed meanwhile. So is this a regression issue or have I done something wrong. I'm using Lucid.
[13:26] <roland_> hi, I read somewhere that it's possible to enable natty narwhal repositories... anyone know how to do it?
[13:31] <jussi> roland: #ubuntu+1 for natt questions
[13:32] <roland> jussi: thnx
[14:06] <DiogenesW> bis später
[14:11] <ceron> algún foro para RHEL?
[14:15] <ceron> #rhel-es
[14:24] <miha> кто тут
[14:25] <ronny_> aloha, kann mir jemand sagen, was ich für einen grafikkartentreiber installieren muss, wenn er im terminal "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) anzeigt?
[15:04] <chris____> i want to help test kde 4.6 beta , where is the ppa for it ?
[15:39] <rork> chris____: https://edge.launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa if I'm informed well
[15:57] <rjizzle> anyone know hot to configure nvidia x serv?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> howdy
[16:16] <Guest58245> I am wanting to setup my audio in kde 3.5 so it uses my default sound card for all my default sounds, but it keeps just saying pulseaudio local and I dont know how to change the default sound card
[16:39] <chinmaya> i installed the doxygen-gui package , but dont see any icon of doxygen
[16:45] <BluesKaj> chinmaya, try the run command or the terminal
[16:46] <chinmaya> i am running the command on terminal
[17:08] <basy> hi all, where can i setup main window bottons(Minimiza, Maximiza, Close), I want to add "Keep above others" button, i am using lates ubuntu10.10 -> with kubuntu-desktop
[17:10] <seiflotfy> hey guys
[17:10] <seiflotfy> apachelogger, da?
[17:10] <Riddell> basy: system settings -> window decorations -> configure buttons
[17:10] <Riddell> hi seiflotfy
[17:10] <seiflotfy> hi Ragnar :)
[17:11] <seiflotfy> any1 interested in hacking some zeitgeist + kde ?
[17:11] <seiflotfy> i cant provide money
[17:11] <seiflotfy> but i can assure you a bit of fame :P
[17:12] <Riddell> kde already has a semantic desktop system
[17:12] <Riddell> (nepomuk)
[17:12] <geekosopher> basy: window decorations is in Workspace appearance
[17:12] <Riddell> which could do with some better UI usage
[17:13] <basy> Riddell + geekosopher: found it thanks guys
[17:13] <apachelogger> konnichiwa seiflotfy
[17:14] <geekosopher> basy: welcome
[17:16] <seiflotfy> Riddell, we already had talks wit hsebastian trueg
[17:16] <seiflotfy> nepomuk and zeitgeist are not the same at all
[17:16] <seiflotfy> Riddell, nepomuk stores metadata
[17:16] <seiflotfy> we store how files are used
[17:17] <seiflotfy> and sebastian trueg and me had a 6 hour face to face meeting
[17:17] <seiflotfy> :)
[17:17] <seiflotfy> and we will get them to work together
[17:17] <Riddell> that sounds promising
[17:18] <seiflotfy> as a GNOME guy I ma now being hired to work on KDE
[17:18] <seiflotfy> so i am not making things up
[17:18] <seiflotfy> and i am being hired by the former president of KDE :)
[17:18] <seiflotfy> so this is exciting
[17:19] <Riddell> seiflotfy: KDAB?
[17:19] <Riddell> oh, BasysKom?
[17:19] <seiflotfy> Eva Brucherseifer
[17:19] <seiflotfy> Riddell, yes
[17:19] <seiflotfy> so i would like to have the kubuntu community push this forward
[17:19] <seiflotfy> :)
[17:20] <seiflotfy> Riddell, care to help me out
[17:21] <Riddell> seiflotfy: in terms of coding probably best to ask upstream KDE, if there's code that needs packaging for testing and shipping then yes
[17:21] <seiflotfy> i need coders
[17:21] <seiflotfy> i need ppl to just help me write an extension for kate or amarok
[17:21] <seiflotfy> that sends the events to zeitgeist
[17:22] <bobbyj> anybody know a good gps program?
[17:22] <Riddell> seiflotfy: I'd recommend asking on the kate and amarok developer mailing lists
[17:24] <sushant> hello room
[17:25] <sushant> I'm facing problem with screen resolution
[17:25] <sushant> the default is set to 800x600
[17:25] <sushant> if i change it to 1024x768 then the mouse cursor dissaperas
[17:25] <sushant> i tried searching many blogs but have not found any solution
[17:26] <apachelogger> seiflotfy: can one communicate with zeitgeist via dbus?
[17:26] <tim> I have a lost+found directory on a backup drive which I can't remove, even wish shred in single user mode.  Is there any way to delete this folder when root can't do it?
[17:26] <seiflotfy> apachelogger, yes
[17:26] <sushant> has anybody solved this ?
[17:26] <seiflotfy> we have python and c bindings
[17:26] <seiflotfy> apachelogger, :)
[17:27] <apachelogger> seiflotfy: should be easy to do for amarok then, since one supposedly has access to QtDBus from QtScript (which is what amarok is using for scripting)
[17:28] <apachelogger> seiflotfy: poke Nightrose in #amarok.dev she surely can find someone to hack on that
[17:30] <seiflotfy> apachelogger, aweseome
[17:34] <eagles0513875> hey guys  is there anyone in here on mavrick 64bit on a netbook that used the net installer to install kubuntu
[17:35] <chris1810> Hi, does anyone know if there will be 4.6 beta packages for kubuntu?
[17:36] <eagles0513875> chris1810: there will be but not sure when just keep an eye out on the kubuntu site
[17:38] <chris1810> yeah, I'm doing this since the beta was officially announced :-) There has been very good feedback from users of other distros, who have the beta available already.
[17:38] <akSeya> hi guys.. I need a quick assistance.. my father is running Kubuntu and I need to access his computer via VNC
[17:39] <akSeya> his firewall ports are blocked, and he is not able to play with it...
[17:39] <akSeya> i'm running vncviewer on listen mode on my machine, is there a way for him to connect to my computer?
[17:40] <akSeya> krfb does not have a connect to viewer function
[17:40] <tim> Is there a way to delete a directory that root doesn't have rights to?  I've tried rm -r --force and shred --remove --force -u with no success.
[17:41] <chris1810> akSeay: why don't you use teamviewer for linux? It's free and works great! Both of you have to downlaod and install the package (which is available on teamviewer.com)
[17:43] <chris1810> tim: check out -> man chattr
[17:43] <Riddell> chris1810: I'm afraid we had some problem but we're getting there
[17:44] <chris1810> A  file  with  the `i' attribute cannot be modified: it cannot be deleted or renamed, no link can be created to this file and no data can be written to the file.  Only
[17:44] <chris1810>        the superuser or a process possessing the CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE capability can set or clear this attribute.
[17:45] <nascentmind> Hi. When I set anti aliasing on fonts it doesn't take effect. How do I fix this?
[17:45] <chris1810> @Riddell: Thanks for the info and all your work making kubuntu a great distribution!
[17:46] <chris1810> nascentmind: anti-aliasing only takes effect on newly started applications...
[17:46] <nascentmind> chris1810, but it doesn't in my case.
[17:47] <nascentmind> chris1810, there seems to a be a bug in kde where when I write exec /usr/bin/screen in my .bash_profile it messes up kdm.
[17:47] <nascentmind> can somebody confirm that?
[17:48] <nascentmind> due to that I had to do a sudo startx and from then on the fonts just don't anti alias.
[17:49] <chris1810> I'm using byobu, which only starts screen when it's on a VT or remote session, but not e.g. in konsole. Never tried to run it the way you do.
[17:49] <chris1810> (so I can't confirm this behaviour)
[17:50] <apachelogger> nascentmind: one uses .profile anyway
[17:51] <nascentmind> so what's the reason for my anti alias problem?
[17:51] <andreas_> moin
[17:51] <nascentmind> has it messed something because I did a sudo startx?
[17:51] <nascentmind> it was showing as user:root
[17:52] <chris1810> why don't you remove "excec /usr/bin/screen" from your .bash_profile and restart kdm as it is supposed?
[17:53] <nascentmind> chris1810, yes done that.
[17:53] <nascentmind> chris1810, had also installed xdm to check what was wrong.
[17:54] <ubuntu> hey
[17:54] <ubuntu> anyone online?
[17:54] <chris1810> nascentmind: and you've still no anti-aliasing?
[17:54] <Gerald_> hi
[17:54] <nascentmind> no i don't
[17:55] <nascentmind> although I have enabled it in appearance section. this includes setting the System Settings option for AA
[17:56] <chris1810> I guess - as you run X as root for a little time, some file permissions got messed up. Do a "find . -user root" in your users home to see if there are any config files owned by root now
[17:56] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how can i connect to yahooo messenger, if i'm using kubuntu from live cd?
[17:57] <chris1810> ubuntu, try kopete
[17:58] <ubuntu> i've try but...connecting
[17:58] <Gerald_> does someone use xvidcap?
[17:58] <ubuntu> and no reply\
[17:59] <nascentmind> chris1810, I did a find .kde -user root and I am getting some results
[18:00] <nascentmind> chris1810, should I down a chown on .kde?
[18:01] <Snowhog_> nascentmind: Nothing in your users /home directory should be owned by root.
[18:01] <chris1810> nascentmind, I don't have any files owned by root in my .kde, so chown them
[18:02] <nascentmind> ok did  sudo chown -R user:user .kde/
[18:03] <nascentmind> lemme check by re logging in.
[18:04] <eagles0513875> hey guys are there any netbook users here
[18:07] <nascentmind> strange. it shows fonts as ubuntu 8 and ubuntu 9.
[18:07] <chris1810> that are the default fonts since maverick
[18:09] <nascentmind> ok. I clicked on defaults and set the AA to enabled. Still does not work
[18:13] <tguru89> Hello all, I am getting this message :/bin/bash: prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.4.0/bin/arm-eabi-gcc: No such file or directory MY QUESTION IS: How do I get toolchain?
[18:15] <stefan`> hi, anybody knows when we can expect 4.6 beta?
[18:17] <stefan`> i mean kubuntu packages
[18:17] <eagles0513875> stefan`: just keep an eye out on the kubuntu page
[18:17] <eagles0513875> thats where news is annouced about this kinda stuff
[18:17] <eagles0513875> !flash64 | eagles0513875
[18:20] <tim> THANK YOU CHRIS!!!! that worked.  I had been about to repartition if you had not had that answer.
[18:21] <stefan`> i know they'll announce it there - but i would like to know when this could be? there are not even any packages building on launchpad yet...
[18:22] <Riddell> stefan`: later today with any luck
[18:22] <stefan`> Riddell: thanks :)
[18:23] <Snowhog_> Riddell: Will they be in backports or beta-backports?
[18:23] <tguru89> Does anyone know anything about toolchain or where I can find the onw I need?
[18:23] <asfyxia> @stefan: check http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Release_Schedule
[18:24] <Riddell> Snowhog_: maverick packages will be in kubuntu-ppa/beta
[18:24] <Snowhog_> Riddell: Thank you.
[18:32] <ubuntu_> Hi folks. Im a sad panda :( Went to book my dual boot laptop and im getting the error "no module name found". This is before the grub. So im sitting on a live CD and i guess reinstalling grub would be a good idea?
[18:43] <Snowhog> That was wild!
[18:46] <amichair> can anyone think of a reason why 2 files out of thousands copied from winxp to kubuntu over smb (in dolphin) give an error that the file can't be read? (on the winxp box the two files are normal, readable and non-currupt zip files)
[18:49] <Snowhog> GreyGeek: 'morning
[18:49] <GreyGeek> Afternoon here,  HI!
[18:50] <Snowhog> GreyGeek: Still morning in my neck of the world. Cold too.
[18:50] <GreyGeek> Got to run... my wife wants to go shopping.  (It's 50F here!  we are having a heat wave :)
[19:06] <Snowhog> Freenode sure seems to be having issues this morning!
[19:08] <amichair> can anyone think of a reason why 2 files out of thousands copied from winxp to kubuntu over smb (in dolphin) give an error that the file can't be read? (on the winxp box the two files are normal, readable and non-currupt zip files)
[19:11] <Snowhog> amichair: Are they open in WinZip or other archiver app on Winxp?
[19:13] <amichair> Snowhog: nope
[19:16] <Snowhog> amichair: Do the file names contain special characters?
[19:16] <amichair> Snowhog: nope
[19:16] <amichair> as far as I can tell, they're totally normal uninteresting files
[19:16] <amichair> nothing stands out about them
[19:18] <Snowhog> amichair: Out of curiosity, if you copy them to new names on the Winxp box, can they then be read?
[19:19] <amichair> Snowhog: that's what I just tried - and the copy (made within xp) copied ok (over smb to kubuntu)
[19:19] <amichair> while this works around the problem, I'd be very interested in finding what went wrong, or reporting a bug if necessary
[19:20] <amichair> and knowing it won't happen again :-)
[19:25] <sresu> !KDE partition editor
[19:25] <sresu> !partition editor
[19:25] <sresu> !gparted
[19:25] <sresu> !partition
[19:26] <sresu> !PartitionManager
[19:38] <eagles0513875> hey gusy is anoyone on the netbook remix of maverick
[19:38] <eagles0513875> !ops
[19:38] <eagles0513875> hey guys not to bother you but can someone do something bout the people constantly pinging and timing out
[19:38] <apachelogger> ehm
[19:39] <maco> eagles0513875: what?
[19:39] <maco> no
[19:39] <apachelogger> no
[19:39] <eagles0513875> :-/
[19:39] <eagles0513875> apachelogger:  see
[19:39] <maco> that's called the internet being broken
[19:39] <eagles0513875> maco: you mean freenode
[19:39] <eagles0513875> :-/
[19:39] <eagles0513875> ok
[19:39] <apachelogger> well, at least the freenode part of the internet ;)
[19:39] <maco> the piece of the internet to which freenode is attached :P
[19:39] <Snowhog> The netsplit really borked things here.
[19:39] <eagles0513875> ok sry to bother you guys
[19:39] <maco> all the ops can do is ban people who are being annoying
[19:39] <eagles0513875> thought ops could redirect people into the fix your internet channel
[19:39] <apachelogger> lets ban everyone :P
[19:39] <apachelogger> eagles0513875: there is nothing they can do
[19:39] <maco> eagles0513875: sure, if it was *their* network that was the problem
[19:39] <apachelogger> it is not their fault
[19:39] <eagles0513875> ok
[19:39] <eagles0513875> sry to bother you guys
[20:02] <Khaotic> is there an itunes like application
[20:03] <maco> amarok?
[20:06] <nemon82> after first install , do i need to install nvidia drivers for desktop cube
[20:06] <robotech> nemon82: mm
[20:06] <robotech> nemon82: maybe
[20:07] <robotech> old nvidia card maybe no
[20:07] <nemon82> oh i think its new ones gtx260. well i should try i guess, thanks man
[20:07] <robotech> the newest nvidia cards i think they work better with proprietry dirver
[20:07] <robotech> driver
[20:08] <nemon82> I asked because, in desktop effects, I cannot make it enable
[20:10] <haza1> Hey folks... tried to fix my boot loaded and now when i start my computer i get the grub commandline.... whats happened here?
[20:10]  * haza1 is a saaaaad panda
[20:12] <ikonia> haza1: probably can't read your config so it drops to a shell
[20:12] <amichair> haza1: last time that happened to me was on a ntfs drive (and wubi), and a chkdsdk in windows fixed it. I don't know if this is relevant to you though.
[20:13] <haza1> Okay... well this is what happened initially.. i started the computer and got the @no module name found@. googled that and was told to reinstall the grub.
[20:13] <haza1> and now i have this problem.
[20:14] <haza1> I must have cocked up the installation of the grub :(
[20:14] <Snowhog> amichair: Out of curiosity, if you copy them to new names on the Winxp box, can they then be read? << previously asked during the chaos.
[20:16] <amichair> Snowhog: oh, thanks for remembering me :-) - I answered that: making a copy in windows and then copying the copy to kubuntu worked ok. this is the workaround I used, but I'd still like to know what's preventing the originals from copying, whether this is a bug, and how to prevent it from happening next time
[20:16] <haza1> Not sure where to go from here :(
[20:17] <Snowhog> amichair: Were those two files created on the Winxp box originally?
[20:18] <haza1> I think maybe suicide is the next course of action
[20:18] <amichair> Snowhog: I suppose so. basically, it's a folder with a whole tree below it with ~25K files, I haven't touched in a long time. I wanted to copy them over to kubuntu for backup, as I barely use the xp box anymore
[20:19] <amichair> all but those two files were ok, and those two (unrelated to each other) consistently give the error
[20:20] <amichair> they're not large, have standard names, and are perfectly ok on the windows box
[20:21] <Snowhog> amichair: Well, blame it on Windows. :) At least the copying worked, so as you say, a work-around. More than one way to skin a cat as they say.
[20:21] <amichair> yep. until next time I want to make a backup :-/
[20:23] <amichair> Snowhog: is there any way to reset the smb handler dolphin uses (does this even make sense?)
[20:23] <fabrizioso_> back
[20:40] <keksebaum> hi
[20:40] <keksebaum> is there a ppa for kde 4.6?
[20:41] <moetunes> probably not yet
[20:41] <moetunes> !ppa
[20:46] <Snowhog> amichair: Sorry - was 'on the other virtual desktop. I don't use Samba - only my laptop here - so I can't advise.
[20:48] <amichair> Snowhog: it's alright, I appreciate your good intentions :-)
[20:49] <Snowhog> amichair: Can you rephrase the question though? What exactly are you desiring to do?
[20:50]  * keksebaum wants 4.6 so hard :(
[20:50] <amichair> Snowhog: to figure out why these 2 specific files cannot be read via smb
[20:50] <moetunes> keksebaum:  get the source from kde.org then :)
[20:51] <keksebaum> moetunes: sure, but a ppa is way more convient
[20:51] <Snowhog> amichair: Personally, I don't believe it was any issue with smb, or even Linux. Something about them was sufficiently wrong that smb/Linux couldn't read them. I really believe that even though Windows had no problem with them, there was something amis with both.
[20:52] <amichair> Snowhog: most recently, I asked if there's some way to reset the smb system or something like that, in case something happened to it
[20:53] <Snowhog> amichair: The reason I had you copy the files is that doing so create new files in a different location on the disc. If the orginals are on an area of the disc that is 'marginal', there could be issues accessing them 'under certain conditions.' I've seen that plenty of times in Windows itself.
[20:54] <amichair> Snowhog: the files themselves are consistently read ok (and being zip files, the archive tests ok with checksums etc.) from within windows
[20:54] <Snowhog> amichair: Test this by renaming the two original files to something unique for both. This keeps the files in the same location on the disc. Then see if Dolphin/smb can read the renamed files. If it can't, that pretty much nails the issue for me.
[20:58] <amichair> Snowhog: I just got an opportunity to try and access them over the LAN from another windows box, and I get an error as well - so you are right, there is something wrong with the source files (though I still don't know what)
[20:59] <amichair> the contents of the files are ok, so maybe some specific sharing permissions or something (though I don't see anything different from other files)
[21:00] <amichair> or maybe windows' network protocol cache is corrupt or something
[21:00] <Snowhog> amichair: See my last comment.
[21:03] <amichair> Snowhog: what do you mean by 'unique for both'?
[21:04] <Snowhog> amichair: Just rename them with different names. That's all.
[21:04] <amichair> Snowhog: and does renaming change anything (permissions, etc.) other than the name?
[21:05] <Snowhog> amichair: The test here, is that renaming doesn't move the files off of their present location on the disc. If the area they occupy is marginal - going bad - this will help to confirm that.
[21:05] <amichair> renamed file doesn't copy either
[21:06] <amichair> you're right about that, but all other file properties remain unchanged as well, so it can still be anything
[21:06] <amichair> I think if the file content was bad it wouldn't pass the zip test (though not sure - I think it has checksums on everything)
[21:09] <cpatrick2008> does anybody know when kubuntu will release the packages for kde 4.6 beta 1
[21:10] <moetunes> best answer you'll get is   soon   :)
[21:10] <Snowhog> amichair: Well, as you found out, even attempting to copy from another Windows machine, the files couldn't be read. So, it isn't the OS, nor smb that is presenting the problem. It's the files, or as I believe, the location of the disc they are located on, that is the problem.
[21:12] <Snowhog> amichair: When was the last time that chkdsk was run on the Windows machine?
[21:14] <amichair> Snowhog: nailed it!
[21:14] <amichair> I had to uncheck 'use simple sharing' in the folder view properties in windows explorer, then that shows the security tab in file properties
[21:14] <amichair> for some reason, I have absolutely no idea why, these to files didn't have 'Everyone' as allowed user
[21:15] <amichair> adding it solved the problem
[21:15] <Snowhog> amichair: Cool. Nice work.
[21:16] <amichair> this windows box is not on a domain or anything, is single user, and I never messed with permissions on it, and these particular files are not interesting or different from the others in any way - so I have no idea how this came to be
[21:16] <Snowhog> amichair: Stuff happens. :)
[21:16] <amichair> but at least I can sleep well at night knowing the case is closed :-)
[21:17] <amichair> Snowhog: thanks a lot for your advice (and patience!)
[21:17] <Snowhog> amichair: No problem. I learn as I try to help.
[21:18] <Snowhog> amichair: If nothing else, our conversation got you to thinking about the problem from 'outside' the box.
[21:18] <amichair> ... and across the network ;-)
[21:19] <Snowhog> amichair: From a quote by Sherlock Holmes: "It is a capital mistake to theorize in advance of the facts."
[21:20] <amichair> true
[21:20] <darkas> hello
[21:20] <amichair> the problem is often knowing where to look for the facts :-)
[21:20] <darkas> is there any schedule for packaging the kde 4.6 beta?
[21:20] <Snowhog> amichair: The real issue one needs to learn to avoid, is being blinded by what we believe we see.
[21:21] <valerian> hello
[21:22] <amichair> true. It's interesting that that is the #1 advice for learning how to draw (sketches) as well.
[21:22] <amichair> people naturally tend to draw what they think they see, not what they see, and that's why it doesn't look too good
[21:25] <Snowhog> valerian: What's your question?
[21:29] <amichair> darkas (and others who asked): kde 4.6 beta is work in progress, and will be announced on kubuntu.org site when ready
[21:30] <darkas> amichair: ok, thanks :)
[21:30] <darkas> can you make any expectations?
[21:31] <amichair> darkas: I don't really know, just passing on the answer from the dev channel
[21:31] <darkas> amichair: ok
[21:38] <DiogenesW> servus
[21:43]  * dustin_ is away: went to work
[21:54] <alesan> hi
[21:55] <alesan> a function I use a lot is the suspend mode...
[21:55] <alesan> it was fairly OK on 9.04 and earlier, on 9.10 it began to fail occasionally, now on 10.10 is a complete DISASTER
[21:56] <alesan> basically it never works and I have to shutdown the machine keeping the power button pressed for 10 seconds all the time
[21:56] <alesan> anything that one can do?
[21:56] <alesan> I have a thinkpad which should be a fairly common machine...
[21:57] <thepro> hi.. testing quassel irc on kubuntu..
[21:58] <amichair> thepro: it's working :-)
[21:58] <thepro> yea, i noticed
[21:59] <thepro> i'm currently testing it on VirtualBox :)
[21:59] <thepro> i'll install it on my pc when i finish school (2 weeks)
[22:00] <alesan> why wait for school to finish? act now!
[22:00] <thepro> homework.. tests
[22:00] <thepro> uhh and stuff like that
[22:00] <alesan> come on you know you can do it :)
[22:01] <thepro> yea lol
[22:01] <thepro> it's just that i gotta backup documents and stuff like that
[22:01] <thepro> cause i'll remove buggy outdated windows xp
[22:02] <alesan> oh that is boring yes
[22:02] <alesan> well winXP is the best windows OS anyway
[22:02] <thepro> not really, windows 7 is way more stable, but a little heavy on the ram
[22:05] <thepro> guys, is it better keeping rekonq for browing or installing chromium (if it works)
[22:05] <Peace-> thepro: chomium works
[22:05] <harolddong> its probably best to use opera
[22:05] <Peace-> rekonq somestuff doens't work
[22:06] <Peace-> opera is closed
[22:06] <Peace-> but works
[22:06] <shawnr> FF4 beta is pretty fast
[22:06] <harolddong> regardless its still probably the ebst linux browser right now
[22:06] <harolddong> ff4 beta is fast rendering but its still really sluggish as an app
[22:06] <Peace-> harolddong: all depend for your purpuse
[22:07] <Peace-> for /on
[22:07] <Peace-> for me  konqueros +webkit is enought
[22:07] <shawnr> it's not too bad with hardware accel
[22:07] <Peace-> enough
[22:07] <thepro> is konqueror updated much?
[22:07] <harolddong> rekonq is going to be awesome when it gets a little more mature and has extensions
[22:08] <shawnr> anyone tried IE9?
[22:08] <Peace-> thepro: konqueror and khtml is still developing
[22:08] <thepro> shawnr: on windows yea
[22:08] <Peace-> you cna use webkit with konqueror..
[22:08] <harolddong> konqueror is really a no go at this point
[22:08] <shawnr> don't use windows, just curious about performance
[22:08] <Peace-> wekit+konquer= rekonq
[22:09] <harolddong> rekonq is the best option for straight kde web browsing
[22:09] <thepro> shawnr: really good for html5
[22:09] <thepro> it does some amazing things
[22:09] <Peace-> harolddong: you can't think what you think is right ...
[22:09] <thepro> i haven't tested other html5 browsers, but it seems to use graphic acceleration good enough
[22:10] <Peace-> not everyone use browser in the same way
[22:10] <Peace-> someone use only konqueror + blip tv with ogv
[22:10] <Peace-> instead of flash
[22:10] <Peace-> and stupid stuff like opera
[22:10] <harolddong> well I assume every uses browsers to browse.  can we agree on that?  :P
[22:10] <thepro> depends. lol
[22:11] <harolddong> opera is pretty much the lightest browser on linux if that'swhat you care about
[22:11] <harolddong> I'm just saying
[22:11] <Peace-> i use konqueror for ftp for imageview and for youtube
[22:11] <shawnr> depends on what you browse
[22:11] <harolddong> this isn't an open source only channel its a kubuntu channel
[22:11] <Peace-> i would say try them all
[22:11] <Peace-> then decide if YOU like one or the others
[22:12] <Peace-> rekonq , konqueror webkitpart, opera chromium firefox
[22:12] <thepro> guys i haven't used linux in years, but does putting ''sudo apt-get install chromium'' install chromium?
[22:12] <harolddong> I really only use opera now mainly or sometimes rekonq.  The only time I break out firefox anymore is if I need to use one of the extensions.  firefox on linux is just terrible
[22:12] <Peace-> thepro: nope
[22:12] <Peace-> thepro: press TAB To autocomplete
[22:13] <Peace-> should be chromium-browser
[22:13] <thepro> ah
[22:13] <Peace-> because there is a game that is called chromium
[22:13] <Peace-> or something
[22:15] <Snowhog> Peace-: chromium-bsu  - "In this game you are the captain of the cargo ship Chromium B.S.U."
[22:15] <Peace-> well.. Snowhog i... don't care of games
[22:16] <Peace-> i develop script and service menu for multimedia
[22:16] <Peace-> xD
[22:16] <Snowhog> Peace-: Same here. I do my online crossword puzzle daily, and that's the extent of my gaming. :)
[22:16] <thepro> btw guys, games on wine
[22:16] <thepro> do they run good?
[22:16] <valentin_> hey all
[22:16] <alesan> so chromium runs well on Linux?
[22:16] <Peace-> thepro: even here depends from the game
[22:16] <valentin_> question
[22:16] <thepro> valentin_: hey
[22:16] <Peace-> alesan: i use cromium here .
[22:16] <alesan> do you need to use a joystick?
[22:17] <valentin_> does anyone know PCSX?
[22:17] <thepro> keyboard ftw.
[22:17] <alesan> Peace-, so it runs well or it crashes or similar?
[22:17] <thepro> i'm testing chromium now...
[22:17] <thepro> uhhh!
[22:17] <thepro> already found a bug on it
[22:17] <thepro> oh nvm
[22:18] <thepro> that was me :P
[22:18] <Peace-> alesan: works , if you leave chromium opened for 24h maybe you could get some flash crahs xD
[22:18] <alesan> I mean the game
[22:18] <thepro> lol..
[22:18] <thepro> btw guys, the taskbar is like.. small for me
[22:19] <thepro> http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9562/snapshot1fv.png
[22:19] <Peace-> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-chormium0
[22:19] <Peace-> thepro: ?
[22:20] <thepro> is there anyway to resize it?
[22:20] <Peace-> thepro: ... of course...
[22:20] <Peace-> thepro: look at the mine..
[22:21] <rork> thepro: right click > panel options > panel settings
[22:21] <Peace-> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-thebar
[22:22] <Peace-> rebooting to kubuntu lucid
[22:22] <alesan> damn my ISP's SMTP is not working now
[22:22] <alesan> that is the ISP where I have the mail account on
[22:22] <alesan> what can I do
[22:22] <alesan> maybe try the SMTP of the provider I am using to access the internet?
[22:23] <thepro> what's your isp?
[22:23] <Snowhog> alesan: If it is truely an ISP issue, call tghem.
[22:23] <alesan> thepro, which one
[22:23] <alesan> Snowhog, call like at the phone? do you live in the eighties? :)
[22:23] <thepro> the mail provider one
[22:23] <alesan> thepro, 1und1.de
[22:23] <thepro> oh.
[22:24] <alesan> the one I use to connect is "comcast"
[22:24] <alesan> and I am trying this one now... it seems it wants some authentication
[22:27] <Lars_G> Greets all.
[22:27] <dufour> hi
[22:27] <Lars_G> Question, any ideas what produces the double cashew here, and how to fix it? http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/680/errorkde.jpg
[22:27] <rork> hi dufour
[22:28] <Snowhog> Lars_G: Looks like you have two Panels running.
[22:28] <Lars_G> hmm
[22:28] <Lars_G> maybe desktop and activity...
[22:28] <dufour> how are you?
[22:29] <Lars_G> Is there a command I can issue during cashew to show all panels (delineate them)?
[22:31] <Snowhog> Lars_G: Are both Panels 'active' - can you do things with either one?
[22:31] <Lars_G> Snowhog: I can see where one ends and where the other is...
[22:32] <Snowhog> Lars_G: What I mean, is if you right-click on each one, do you get a pop-up on each one?
[22:34] <fabrizioso_> claydoh: Are you still here?
[22:34] <Lars_G> the cashews? only the top one
[22:34] <Lars_G> Here let me post an image that might help Snowhog
[22:35] <Snowhog> You're running a netbook, yes?
[22:36] <Lars_G> yes
[22:36] <Lars_G> Here i can see two things Snowhog http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6098/errorkde1.jpg
[22:37] <Lars_G> First, the top cashew lives inside a container... and second, under the bottom one to the right I can see a scrollbar behing.. I can even select up and down if I right click over the scrollbar
[22:38] <Lars_G> Snowhog: And I've setup plasma to use the netbook form, if that matters
[22:41] <Snowhog> Lars_G: Out of curiosity, if you set System Settings > Activities to Desktop, do you still have two Panels?
[22:42] <Lars_G> hmm
[22:43] <Lars_G> changing
[22:47] <Lars_G> Snowhog: seems not http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1736/errorkde2.jpg
[22:48] <Snowhog> Lars_G: Well, I'm not a netbook user - 17" laptop here - but I'd watch the behavior of both 'Panel's when in Netbook mode, to see what goes on with each.
[22:49] <Lars_G> Yeah I'm trying to decipher it, it's odd
[22:49] <Snowhog> Lars_G: Is it possible that it's a Panel size (length) issue??
[22:49] <Lars_G> the upper panel cashew lets me add pages, the lower (left when closed) seems to contain only the other cashew, and cannot add pages
[22:49] <Lars_G> it might be
[22:51] <Snowhog> Lars_G: If the lower 'Panel' seems to be the containment for the Cashew, which is a widget, then its possible that the Cashew containment just needs to be resized.
[22:52] <diablodf> someone has tested the kde 4.5.3? What changes?
[22:52] <Lars_G> Snowhog: how can it be resized?
[22:53] <Lars_G> Sweet, back to netbook plasma, and it's segging
[22:55] <Snowhog> Lars_G: Nevermind on resizing it - can't be done. But just tried something - I add an Empty Panel. It looks just like your's. Can you right-click on the empty panel - not it's Cashew - and get a pop-up allowing you to remove the panel?
[22:56] <Lars_G> I'll try, when I can revive plasma-netbook :)
[22:58] <diablodf> War in Rio de Janeiro, where we are. The traffickers are taking over everything
[22:59] <Lars_G> diablodf: where... what's going on?
[23:00] <Lars_G> diablodf: Riots? civil war? what's up man?
[23:02] <wqapol> Does Kubuntu 10.04 has any firewall built-in? If so does it block any ports by default?
[23:03] <Snowhog> wqapol: See man ufw
[23:04] <diablodf> Rio de Janeiro is at war! We have roughly 20,000 police on the streets. Traffickers are playing the terror. Innocent people killed!
[23:05] <wqapol> Snowhog: Thanks. ufw status says its disabled. How can I set it to autostart at bootup?
[23:05] <Snowhog> wqapol: ufw - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[23:06] <Lars_G> diablodf: Somthing to do with Vila Cruzeiro?
[23:07] <diablodf> yes. Now they will attack another slum!
[23:07] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.. Curious, how is Kubuntu, as-in KDE 4, with netbooks? Anyone tried it? This blasted unity stuff for 10.10 is about as worthless as it gets as far as usability.
[23:15] <fabrizioso> Hello claydoh
[23:16] <fabrizioso> I just installed kmymoney 4.5.1 from claydoh's ppa rep and found out that there is no HBCI support available. I read that this happened before but had been fixed meanwhile. So is this a regression issue or have I done something wrong. I'm using Lucid.
[23:19] <claydoh> fabrizioso: buzy atm, but I dunno, perhaps I broke the package it is working in Maverick will look at it
[23:20] <fabrizioso> Thanks, great!
[23:34] <harolddong> is there a way to get backintime to work on 4.5?  I keep getting an error with pykde http://pastebin.com/h7hguZXP
[23:35] <harolddong> I've looked online and others seem to have had the issue in the past and now and the consensus seems to be that's it's not a backintime issue.  Does anybody know of a fix?
[23:38] <claydoh> fabrizioso: i think i found my packaging error, will see if I can fix it
[23:38] <claydoh> later tonight or tomorrow night
[23:40] <fabrizioso> claydoh: wow, thx for the quick check! Great support!
[23:40] <claydoh> harolddong: https://launchpad.net/~bit-team/+archive/stable
[23:41] <naviretlav> hi I have problem with my kubuntu 10.10
[23:42] <naviretlav> After upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10 ... I can't do any Updates ! Update manager is freesing
[23:42] <naviretlav> any ideas how to fix it ?
[23:45] <moetunes> naviretlav:  in konsole try   sudo apt-get install -f
[23:46] <naviretlav> ok , I have some libs to auto remove
[23:47] <harolddong> claydoh: I installed from that repo last night but I am still having the same problem.  should I try to remove, purge and then reinstall?
[23:48] <EagleScreen> hello
[23:52] <claydoh> harolddong: the ppa may not be properly updating all the packages - just one. try uninstalling all backintime packages, and then try again
[23:53] <claydoh> harolddong: it is only offering me to upgrade the *-common package, and not the main one, so there is a mismatch, which sounds like the reason for your error
[23:58] <harolddong> ok I'll try it