[14:34] <vish> was there a decision on LibreOffice being used for Natty? instead of OOo ?
[14:36] <vish> i thought we were sticking to OOo, cant seem to find a bp or anything hinting that change..
[14:52] <vish> i see only one work item here : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection and not sure what the outcome of jcastro talk with LibO folks was..
[14:57] <jcastro> vish: someone from -desktop took that item iirc
[14:57] <jcastro> they talked to libreoffice, I don't recall who it was
[15:06] <vish> jcastro: cool.. thx. :)  i guess i'll ask again when seb is around
[15:07] <sense> Is there a Python version of GDesktopAppInfo, or do you have to use something else to launch a *.desktop file?
[15:13] <c_korn> import gio; gio.unix.DesktopAppInfo("nautilus-browser.desktop")
[15:13] <c_korn> sense: ^
[15:14] <sense> c_korn: Hurray! Thanks, I'll look into that.
[15:15] <c_korn> sense: just googled it and found this snippet in an ubuntu forum
[15:18] <sense> :) Your Google powers must be better than mine
[15:19] <vish> hehe, sense's google sense is weak ;p
[15:24] <vish> sense: i use the fusion icon to restart compiz.. not the best way but better than session restart i guess. :)
[15:24]  * vish  not sure what the command to restart compiz is..
[15:28] <sense> vish: But in Unity the panel and launcher go down with Compiz, because Unity is a Compiz plugin.
[15:28] <sense> It crashed again shortly after I logged in. I'll switch to the 'classic' desktop!
[15:42] <Amaranth> vish: `compiz &`
[15:42] <Amaranth> :D
[15:43] <vish> doh! :D
[15:44] <vish> Amaranth: ah! i was always trying "compiz --replace" when it crashed :/
[15:44] <Amaranth> If you just run `compiz` it automatically adds the --replace and (unless it has changed) a couple more things
[15:44] <Amaranth> If you specify any arguments to it you need to specify _all_ of the arguments to it
[15:45] <vish> oh!
[15:45] <Amaranth> Yeah...
[15:46] <Amaranth> Was trying to make it easy for people to use but also possible for advanced users to do whatever they want
[15:46] <vish> Amaranth: thx.. was kinda a pain when i was testing unity last cycle.. mutter kept crashing then ;)
[16:30] <sense> What code does launch *.desktop files in GNOME/Unity?
[16:36] <sense> I'm using gio.unix.DesktopAppInfo, but I cannot get startup notification to work. Does anyone know what to do?
[16:42] <sense> I'm now trying gtk.gdk.AppLaunchContext instead of gio.AppLaunchContext. Lets see if that works.
[16:48] <sense> I think it is working now.
[17:38] <ari-tczew> didrocks: can you help with one FTBFS due to vala?
[17:39] <didrocks> ari-tczew: was just going to leave… so not sure I can stay long enough
[17:39] <didrocks> ari-tczew: just a tip on that:
[17:39] <didrocks> we have two versions of vala in natty
[17:40] <didrocks> try with each, vala is known for some langage regression
[17:40] <ari-tczew> didrocks: you touched this package: bug 681975
[17:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 681975 in pdf-presenter-console (Ubuntu) "Merge pdf-presenter-console 1.1.1+git.02dfcf-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681975
[17:41] <didrocks> did I?
[17:41] <didrocks> oh right, the Gdk.color
[17:41] <ari-tczew> didrocks: that's right, and there is still FTBFS
[17:43] <didrocks> ari-tczew: maybe the gdk.color patch isn't useful anymore? did you try to ping the debian maintainer?
[17:43] <didrocks> I think debian exp as a new vala which is on the same level than ubuntu
[17:43] <ari-tczew> didrocks: I didn't.
[17:44] <didrocks> ari-tczew: maybe try it there? I'm not that familiar with vala I'm afraid ::
[17:44] <didrocks> ari-tczew: also, #vala-dev on gimp.net are quite friendly
[17:45] <didrocks> with the FTBFS output, they can maybe be a good resource
[17:46] <ari-tczew> didrocks: #vala-dev which server?
[17:49] <didrocks> ari-tczew: on the gimp.net network
[17:50] <ari-tczew> didrocks: ah, I thought that you suggest to find a help on website gimp.net
[17:52] <didrocks> ari-tczew: no, it's an IRC channel
[17:53] <didrocks> with great people :)
[17:53] <ari-tczew> didrocks: ok, I'll get in touch
[17:53] <didrocks> (ok, really going now)
[17:53] <didrocks> ari-tczew: nice!
[17:53] <didrocks> ari-tczew: enjoy your week-end :)
[17:54] <ari-tczew> ehh, my weekend is only work :( unfortunately
[19:02] <RenatoSilva> how to undo apt-get build-dep?