[01:27] <jrmy> anyone wanna help me figure out why the panesl arent showing up?
[01:28] <jrmy> aka the things that hold the menus, and minimized windows
[01:28] <jrmy> and other stuff like launchers
[01:28] <jrmy> oh yeah, i have xubuntu LTS
[01:28] <jrmy> 10.04
[01:31] <aJynks> hey guys,.... anyone use Docky and Krusader file manager? I can nto seam to get it to pin to the docky thign as right clicking dosn't have the "pin" option.. is there any other way to get the icon onto docky?
[01:31] <moetunes> jrmy:  in a terminal do   xfce4-panel &    and see if they come up
[01:31] <jrmy> moetunes: k
[01:32] <aJynks> dang reboot... brb
[01:32] <moetunes> I don't know anything about docky sorry aJynks
[01:32] <jrmy> moetunes: popped back.. and gave me an error
[01:33] <moetunes> what's the error?
[01:33] <jrmy> hold on.. i'll pastebin it
[01:33] <moetunes> k
[01:34] <jrmy> http://paste2.org/p/1112294
[01:34] <jrmy> might be the problem
[01:34] <jrmy> probably causing the panels to crash
[01:34] <jrmy> at least that would seem logical
[01:35] <moetunes> yep - in terminal what does   aplay -l   return
[01:35] <moetunes> it should show your audio card
[01:35] <jrmy> return as well?
[01:35] <jrmy> in the command
[01:35] <moetunes> you could just remove the mixer from the panel
[01:36] <moetunes> aplay -l lists the audio cards - does it show yours?
[01:36] <jrmy> yeah hold on
[01:37] <jrmy> looks like it
[01:38] <jrmy> long list of stuff with my card however but that probably doesnt matter though
[01:38] <moetunes> sounds like the panel mixer is having some issues for some reason
[01:38] <moetunes> does sound work fine for you?
[01:38] <jrmy> and it said critcal somethin in the terminal
[01:38] <jrmy> and the panels closed
[01:39] <jrmy> i removed the mixer though
[01:39] <jrmy> i need to find speakers.. dont use em really
[01:39] <moetunes> start the panel again and see how it goes without the mixer plugin
[01:40] <jrmy> i should log out and log back in and see if it works with the mixer removed
[01:40] <moetunes> k
[01:40] <jrmy> no errors this time upon entering the command
[01:40] <jrmy> oh it closed the panels cause i hit ctrl c
[01:41] <jrmy> seems it doesnt finish the command or whatever
[01:41] <jrmy> anyways
[01:42] <moetunes> the & I put at the end of   xfce4-panel   kepps it running in the background and lets you use the terminal for more stuff
[01:43] <jrmy> it should be enough logging outright?
[01:43] <jrmy> out right*
[01:43] <jrmy> cause my winbdows re opened
[01:43] <moetunes> logging out is fine
[01:43] <jrmy> yeah not workin now
[01:43] <jrmy> i can test my sound card
[01:44] <moetunes> select a new session at login
[01:44] <jrmy> a new session?
[01:44] <jrmy> how do i do this?
[01:45] <moetunes> if you have it set to save the current session and use that at login it will save that the panels weren't open
[01:45] <jrmy> oh
[01:45] <moetunes> there is a session button at the login screen
[01:45] <moetunes> at the bottom
[01:45] <jrmy> mayhap a screenshot?
[01:46] <moetunes> from me? - I don't use gdm to login - it isn't installed here
[01:46] <jrmy> ok remind me what gdm is again
[01:47] <moetunes> !info gdm
[01:47] <moetunes> it is what makes the login screen
[01:47] <jrmy> ah
[01:48] <jrmy> i understand about switching between the different types of sessions, but i dont know how to make a new session
[01:49] <moetunes> one of the choices should be last session - don't use that - select xfce session
[01:50] <jrmy> my choices are usually xubuntu session,  xfce session and x-term
[01:51] <moetunes> iirc the xubuntu session is the last session so select xfce session
[01:51] <jrmy> i forget what iirc means
[01:51] <moetunes> if I recall correctly
[01:51] <jrmy> ok
[01:51] <jrmy> brb
[01:51] <moetunes> cool
[01:53] <jrmy> no panels in the xfce session
[01:54] <jrmy> i'll cut the old english
[01:54] <jrmy> anyways pehaps my sound card is to blame
[01:55] <jrmy> though i havent even used my computer till just recently
[01:55] <jrmy> i dont the panels were workign when i started it up
[01:55] <jrmy> so unless something got damaged idk
[01:55] <moetunes> the only way to find out is to start the panel from terminal and check for the error again
[01:56] <aJynks> hey guys
[01:56] <jrmy> im not getting any errors
[01:56] <aJynks> when I plug in a USb drive and acess it though the file menu thing.. what is the exact path though the terminal for that same place?
[01:56] <moetunes> normally it has a dir in /media
[01:57] <moetunes> so /media/whatever_thunar_names_it
[01:57] <aJynks> moetunes, thank you that is correct.. i apreciate it (we all gotta start somwhere)
[01:58] <moetunes> heh np :)
[01:59] <aJynks> moetunes, should i be albe to just use cd to acess it?
[02:00] <aJynks> like cd /media/VideoArchive01 ?
[02:01] <aJynks> cause it keeps saying it is "no such file or directory"
[02:01] <John_Abbott> Could I get help with 10.10 here?
[02:01] <John_Abbott> Of Ubuntu.]
[02:02] <John_Abbott> I keep getting a error message when booting the trial
[02:02] <John_Abbott> It says "failed due to unknown user id (0)"
[02:03] <moetunes> John_Abbott:  is that from the live cd?
[02:03] <John_Abbott> dvd
[02:03] <John_Abbott> live dvd
[02:03] <John_Abbott> but yeah
[02:03] <moetunes> did you do the cd check from the menu?
[02:04] <John_Abbott> I'm doing it now.
[02:04] <John_Abbott> Sorry for bugging
[02:04] <moetunes> it's what the channel is for
[02:04] <John_Abbott> I'm a noobie when it comes to installing OS's
[02:04] <John_Abbott> :P
[02:05] <moetunes> aJynks:  use the tab button - cd /media/   and hit the tab button twice
[02:05] <moetunes> aJynks:  use the tab button - type cd /media/   and hit the tab button twice
[02:05] <John_Abbott> ?
[02:05] <aJynks> moetunes, I am trying to use samba to share a USB 2TB drive to my windows systems, I have samba up and running and other local hard drive directroies shared... but how do i edit the samba conf file to add the external drive when cd /media/drivelable dosn't work?
[02:05] <aJynks> or will it just work?
[02:06] <aJynks> moetunes, tab button?
[02:06] <aJynks> moetunes, i do not know what you mean by that... i am in the termainl
[02:06] <moetunes> aJynks:  the button next to the q - it has tab written on it
[02:06] <moetunes> !tab
[02:07] <moetunes> when you type /media/ and hit the tab key you will get a list of what is in the dir
[02:07] <aJynks> moetunes, yea i am not sure what you mean.. I am typing it in correctly
[02:07] <John_Abbott> Umm....
[02:08] <aJynks> "cd /media/VideoArchive01" but it is erroring syaing that it isn't a filename
[02:08] <John_Abbott> I don't think i'm on the right channel.
[02:08] <moetunes> aJynks:  you aren't if the dir exists and you get no such dir error
[02:08] <John_Abbott> I'm using <b> UBUNTU </b> not Xubuntu
[02:08] <moetunes> John_Abbott:  if you use xubuntu you are
[02:08] <John_Abbott> I'm using the Ubuntu 10.10
[02:08] <moetunes> John_Abbott:  do   /join #ubuntu
[02:09] <aJynks> moetunes, may i PM you a copy form the terminal?
[02:09] <moetunes> ok
[02:09] <John_Abbott> I'm on that channel to,o, but it won't help me, NO ONE in there listens
[02:09] <moetunes> John_Abbott:  it can be like that - hows the disk check coming
[02:10] <John_Abbott> finished
[02:10] <John_Abbott> I just restarted
[02:10] <John_Abbott> I had 1 error
[02:10] <moetunes> aJynks:  try   cd ./V   and hit the tab key
[02:11] <John_Abbott> now, what should I do?
[02:11] <aJynks> moetunes, nothign happens.. I am logged into it though putty on my pc.. guess the tabfunction is broken
[02:11] <moetunes> John_Abbott:  an error on the burn causes unpredicable problems - burn it again at the slowest speed
[02:11] <John_Abbott> k
[02:12] <moetunes> aJynks:  I know nothing about windows and putty
[02:12] <aJynks> what woudl be another good app to use to pot into my linux system?
[02:12] <aJynks> oh it is just some app to port into the terminal across the network
[02:12] <moetunes> from windows?
[02:12] <aJynks> yea
[02:12] <moetunes> dunno don't use windows at all ever anywhere nohow
[02:13] <John_Abbott> Slowest?
[02:13] <John_Abbott> That's 1 x
[02:13] <John_Abbott> Good thing I can stay up all night! :D
[02:13] <moetunes> John_Abbott:  4x is normally ok
[02:14] <John_Abbott> Got that
[02:14] <John_Abbott> Burnin.
[02:14] <aJynks> it is just a terminal thing... like telnet or w/e
[02:14] <moetunes> John_Abbott:  if you don't need the extra language packs locally for installation the dvd doesn't offer more then the cd
[02:15] <aJynks> i just put in the samba conf "path = /media/VideoArchive01" along with the opermition stuff.. hope that works.. rebootign now
[02:15] <moetunes> aJynks:  if you can't change to the dir with cd I don't know what you can do
[02:16] <aJynks> moetunes, yea.. same problem... so you shoudl be able to just cd into that dir in /media?
[02:17] <aJynks> you do nto mount that drive into a diffrent path or somthing?
[02:17] <John_Abbott> But i only have a dvd drive and i have no cds.
[02:18] <John_Abbott> 18%
[02:18] <moetunes> k
[02:18] <John_Abbott>  HOLY CRAP 20%  that was fast.
[02:18] <moetunes> aJynks:  I don't use samba as I have no windows installs to make things hard - try this link
[02:19] <moetunes> !samba
[02:19] <aJynks> moetunes, forget about samba for a sec.... in the terminal... should i just be able to cd /media/drivename and then be able to LS the usb drive?
[02:20] <aJynks> mabey i screwed up and put a space at the start of the volume lable?
[02:21] <moetunes> aJynks:  you should be able to cd to it
[02:22] <aJynks> yea.. wierd that i can't
[02:22] <aJynks> but i can acess it fine though the UI
[02:22] <aJynks> just not though the terminal
[02:22] <John_Abbott> 54%
[02:23] <aJynks> moetunes, looks liek i had a space at the start opf the volume lable... this might fix it i hoep
[02:24]  * gr8m8 is moetunes downstairs
[02:25] <gr8m8> seems like that might cause issues - if you are in the media dir in terminal does cd ./\ VideoArchive   work
[02:26] <aJynks> moetunes, hey dude... it is workign now... I had a sapce in tehfront of the usb drive lable... os it was " VideoArchive01" not "VideoArchive01"
[02:26] <aJynks> everything is working now... thanks for your help brother.. I really apreciate it
[02:26] <gr8m8> sweet
[02:27] <aJynks> ohh you've changed form on me.. thanks gr8m8 i mean
[02:27] <gr8m8> heh
[02:42] <John_Abbott> Anyone still here?
[02:42] <John_Abbott> I'm still having the same error
[02:42] <John_Abbott> HOLD ON.
[02:42] <John_Abbott> It started...
[02:43] <John_Abbott> ...Loading...
[02:44] <gr8m8> still loading?
[02:48] <aJynks> anyone knwo the terminal command for find?
[02:48] <aJynks> to liek search the drive for a file?
[02:49] <gr8m8> find /media/dir -name filename
[02:50] <gr8m8> if you don't know the exact name something like *.avi   works
[02:51] <aJynks> oh
[02:51] <aJynks> find is the name of the command lol
[02:51] <aJynks> so find / -test.avi will search the entire computer inclusing hidden dirs for test.avi?
[02:53] <John_Abbott> NO.
[02:53] <John_Abbott> Not loading
[02:53] <John_Abbott> I started it.
[02:53] <John_Abbott> And it froze when I opened gedit
[02:53] <John_Abbott> Now, my PC has ALOT OF USED SPACE
[02:54] <John_Abbott> Bearly anyis left
[02:54] <John_Abbott> so.
[02:55] <John_Abbott> Is it just because it running slow because of that?
[03:01] <gr8m8> it's hard to see from here John_Abbott - it is not normal tho
[03:01] <gr8m8> check the /tmp dir
[03:02] <gr8m8> aJynks: nope   find / -name test.avi
[03:02] <gr8m8> the -name is an option
[03:02] <gr8m8> then you give the name of the file you want to find
[04:35] <John_Abbott> Hey
[04:35] <John_Abbott> Could i get some help here?
[04:36] <gr8m8> sure John_Abbott
[04:37] <likemindead> !ask | John_Abbott
[04:37] <John_Abbott> I'm trying to make a link to my laptop from my desktop
[04:37] <John_Abbott> for internet.
[04:37] <John_Abbott> How do I do this?
[04:37] <likemindead> !adhoc
[04:37] <gr8m8> !ics
[04:37] <John_Abbott> I have a ethernet
[04:38] <likemindead> Try something like http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html
[04:38] <John_Abbott> I have a ethernet cable, not wireless.
[04:39] <likemindead> What do you mean, link?
[04:54] <John_Abbott> Yeah
[04:56] <John_Abbott> Help.
[04:57] <gr8m8> I don't do ics - see the ubuntu guides linked above
[04:57] <likemindead> I think you need a router, John_Abbott.
[04:58] <John_Abbott> >.>
[04:58] <John_Abbott> That sucks
[05:23] <brantrux> so can ne one tell me how to install xubuntu once i have the torrent downloaded?
[05:24] <gr8m8> !install
[05:24] <bazhang> brantrux, burn to cd then boot from cd
[05:24] <gr8m8> same for xubuntu
[05:25] <brantrux> damn im sooo happy i found this (freenode.net) Thankyou!
[05:26] <bazhang> welcome
[05:38] <brantrux>  http://tinyurl.com/3exghs says i need to partition my hard drive...  i did that, so once the iso is downloaded i need to use winrar to extract the 2 files in the "isolinux" folder to that partition?
[05:38] <moetunes> no
[05:39] <brantrux> oh... then what?
[05:39] <moetunes> like bazhang said burn the iso to a cd and reboot
[05:39] <brantrux> netbook
[05:39] <moetunes> then use a usb stick
[05:40] <brantrux> i have a cardreader and a 4gb sd
[05:40] <brantrux> will that work
[05:40] <moetunes> there was a link earlier for the ways to install
[05:40] <moetunes> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[05:40] <brantrux> http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[05:42] <brantrux> 1. The first thing you will have to do is copy the ISO file(s) of the Linux to your hard disk (ofcourse, you already have it). Make sure that the partition is FAT32 unless the distro you are installing has native NTFS read/write support. Some distros require you to copy the ISO file(s) to the root of the partition. If you keep it inside a folder, the setup might not be able to detect it.
[05:42] <brantrux> thats step 1. i partitioned my hd, so how do i procced/
[05:42] <moetunes> that uses windows stuff - I don't want to know about it honestly
[05:43] <moetunes> check the above link for install methods
[05:43] <brantrux> cant you see im trying in vain to get rid of windows and use xubuntu? so help me or shut up
[05:44] <moetunes> dude I gve you a easy to use web page how to
[05:45] <brantrux> and i pasted the first step and asked u how to do it... im trying to learn man...
[05:45] <brantrux> yall r here to help right/
[05:45] <moetunes> and I tried to help good luck :)
[05:46] <Balsaq> brantrux, dod u burn xubutu to cd or not
[05:46] <Balsaq> did*
[05:46] <brantrux> i have no cd drive
[05:46] <Balsaq> did u burn it usb drive then
[05:47] <brantrux> no
[05:47] <Balsaq> well do it
[05:47] <brantrux> ok
[05:47] <Balsaq> once u do that, the xubuntu installer is so simple u can hardly go wrong
[05:48] <Balsaq> the partition just happens on the way thru it, shows u a nice big picture of your hard drive, what is on it now, and asks you if u wanna give the whole HD to xubutu or if u wanna install it beside windblows, or if u wanna get fancy and do Advanced, but it lays it right out.
[05:49] <brantrux> and when you say burn it to usb, you mean go to where it was put by BitTorrent, right click, send to, and select my usb drive?
[05:50] <Balsaq> well iburn to cd, so if u dont know how to put buntu on usb reda up on it cos i cant give step by step on that
[05:50] <Balsaq> read*
[05:50] <Balsaq> but i know there are hand holding step by step guides, even utube videos on that exact subject
[05:50] <Balsaq> i just happen to always use cd for some reason
[05:51] <Balsaq> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:52] <brantrux> ok cool thankyou for not being an ass, im new and trying to learn as much as i can....  Thanx
[05:53] <Balsaq> when i first started, i knew so little, i actually ordered a buntu cd and they sent it free
[05:53] <Balsaq> and then i realized there are places near me and most anywhere that are part of the project that will mail u the cd and charge like 2 bucks
[05:54] <Balsaq> do u live anywhere near the eastern usa
[05:54] <brantrux> yeah, nh
[05:54] <Balsaq> ok i am in MA
[05:54] <Balsaq> if u want ill burn one and send it free myself
[05:55] <brantrux> its cool, i got it all on the usb, now i need to get my comp to boot from G:
[05:56] <Balsaq> ill read up on it with the usb
[05:57] <moetunes> the dude said he doesn't have a cd or usb and only wanted to do it from a windows install - got upset at other suggestions
[05:58] <brantrux> i have EASY BDC but dont really know how to use it
[05:58] <brantrux> not upset, frustrated, been at this for days
[05:59] <Balsaq> maybe u have to tap an f key when u go to boot it?
[05:59] <Balsaq> then set computer to boot from usb
[05:59] <Balsaq> i have had to that that when i tried to boot from cd before
[05:59] <Balsaq> are u familiar with wut i mean brantrux
[06:00] <brantrux> i wiil try that and be back in a couple of min. yes i came across somthing about that in my quest,
[06:01] <Balsaq> wut version of buntu is it
[06:02] <Balsaq> when u tap the f key as the computer turns on u will see a menu, if u are unlucky, there is no choice to boot from usb.
[06:03] <brantrux> we will see, b right back
[06:03] <brantrux> xubuntu
[06:04] <Balsaq> someone prolly alrady gave u this... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:04] <brantrux> yeah
[06:04] <Balsaq> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=install+ubuntu+from+a+usb+flash+drive&aq=f
[06:05] <Balsaq> there are a tons of videos that go thru it here
[06:05] <Balsaq> i learned how to do dual boot OS here
[06:05] <Balsaq> and i am good at it now
[06:07] <Balsaq> The following tutorial will enable a user to check if a computer system can boot from a USB device and ultimately help determine if the computer can boot a Linux version from USB.
[06:07] <Balsaq> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/testing-your-system-for-usb-boot-compatibility/
[06:08] <Balsaq> maybe u should do this 1st so u are not just chasin your tail...
[06:12] <Balsaq> ping!
[06:12] <Balsaq> cya
[06:37] <brantrux> can ne ont tell me how to reset my bios password on an acer 5251
[06:40] <brantrux> cant get my comp to boot from usb without gettin in there
[06:43] <brantrux> i dont understand how in having conversations with "bots"
[06:43] <brantrux> im*
[06:44] <brantrux> ne one there?
[06:47] <John_Abbott> Why am I still here lol?
[07:09] <moetunes> UPTIME
[12:14] <kangarooo> how to easyr make xubuntu share folder on network?
[12:14] <kangarooo> maybe i can just install nautilus? i did that but still cant share folder
[12:14] <Sysi> what kind of share
[12:15] <kangarooo> share one folder in desktop
[12:16] <Sysi> to what and like what
[12:16] <kangarooo> i have gigolo and pyneiborhood installed.. cant share with them. also with nautilus installed in terminal opening nautilus cant share
[12:16] <kangarooo> to ubuntu
[12:17] <Sysi> just put sshfs to other machine and ssh-server to first?
[12:18] <kangarooo> ok ill try to find info about that
[15:49] <Lolo95> how to change desktop icones alignment ?
[15:51] <TheSheep> Lolo95: drag them to the place where you ant them
[15:51] <TheSheep> want
[15:53] <Lolo95> thx, there is a menu item in gnome to keep or not icones aligned
[17:10] <bobbyj> hello i like to know what the differrance is in xubuntu and ubuntu
[17:10] <knome> the main difference is different desktop environment (xfce in xubuntun, gnome in ubuntu)
[17:11] <bobbyj> is one faster
[17:11] <likemindead> And the fact that Xubuntu is way more awesome.
[17:11] <likemindead> ;-)
[17:12] <knome> there is no exhaustive answer to that, but at least with low memory machines, xubuntu should be faster.
[17:12] <bobbyj> i'm new to xubuntu.. i like the setup. i'm still trying to get use to it
[17:13] <bobbyj> can i change the menu the way you want it?
[17:16] <Besogon> Does anybody know how to fix default font in OLD application? http://imagebin.org/125078 (I think it's not old application, but the program was compiled for ubuntu 7.10)
[17:17] <knome> bobbyj, i'm sorry, but right now there is no easy way to do that.
[17:17] <knome> Besogon, might be that the app is forcing a font
[17:18] <bobbyj> no big deal..
[17:18] <Besogon> I don't know. Packet Traker works better in WINE at this point
[17:18] <bobbyj> anybody know a good gps program?
[17:19] <bobbyj> how does wine work? do have to have windows xp?
[17:34] <Besogon> bobbyj, wine is wine Windows is windows
[17:35] <Besogon> wine translates WinAPI into LinuxAPI because Win applications speak on WinAPI language and WINE is kind of translator.
[17:35] <bobbyj> ok
[17:36] <bobbyj> so if i have software from windows it will work in xubuntu?
[17:37] <Sysi> it may work
[17:38] <Besogon> Not all will work exactly good as in windows but still it can works
[17:44] <bobbyj> well i can't get it to work with exe file
[17:46] <Besogon> bobbyj, what are you trying to start?
[17:47] <bobbyj> avc-free.exe
[17:47] <mark76> Wrong OS
[17:48] <mark76> Unless it's in a VM
[17:55] <bobbyj> does it supose to open like windows?
[18:06] <Besogon> I've never used avc-free nor something else to convert video s my computer rather weak for that. BUT you can look at Ubuntu Software Center or here some of the programs http://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/linux-video-tools
[18:06] <Besogon> bobbyj,
[18:08] <Besogon> VLC
[18:08] <Besogon> for instance
[18:09] <Besogon> http://www.videohelp.com/tools/WinFF
[21:06] <Psilocybin_Elf> What does everyone think of 10.10 then? Installed it on an old laptop, but kept 8.10 on my desktop. Wow, things have changed!!
[21:06] <likemindead> I'm a big fan. Been running 10.10 since it dropped. Another excellent release.
[21:06] <charlie-tca> It is a nice change
[21:08] <Psilocybin_Elf> Iv heard some ppl mention that 10.04 is better (LTS)
[21:08] <Sysi> it's supported longer
[21:08] <Sysi> if you had it installed and working, not real need to update
[21:08] <Psilocybin_Elf> this is my first upgrade since 8.10
[21:08] <charlie-tca> Depends on whether or not the hardware works, I suppose, too.
[21:09] <Psilocybin_Elf> installed 10.10 on my brother's old laptop
[21:09] <Psilocybin_Elf> everything works fine
[21:09] <Psilocybin_Elf> but lots missing from the repos
[21:09] <Psilocybin_Elf> (gmplayer, kasehakaze, etc)
[21:10] <Sysi> maybe on diferent name? i doubt removing things
[21:12] <Psilocybin_Elf> no ogle in there either :-(
[21:36] <likemindead> How do I run memtest in Xubuntu 10.10?
[21:37] <charlie-tca> isn't it in the grub menu?
[21:37] <likemindead> How do I access it?
[21:38] <charlie-tca> hold shift right after the bios check
[21:38] <likemindead> Sweet. Thanks.
[21:41] <likemindead> This is my first time using Memtest86. Any idea how long it'll take on a 1GB stick?
[21:45] <brantrux> Ok so i installed Ubuntu Presto, where do i get programs for it? Do regular ubuntu programs work with it?
[21:46] <brantrux> Is it as useless as it seems to me right now? I cant even figure out how to set desktop icons...
[21:47] <likemindead> Presto? Never heard of it. What is it?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> likemindead, don't know.
[21:49] <brantrux> a $20 ubuntu distro that boots to a working desktop in 20 sec.
[21:50] <likemindead> My Xubuntu is free & boots in 20 seconds or less... ;-)
[21:51] <charlie-tca> brantrux, I would go to their website and ask where to get programs and how
[21:53] <charlie-tca> Everything I find says it is by Xandros
[21:53] <likemindead> Surely it's just a matter of adding the proper repos.
[21:54] <Psilocybin_Elf> $20 distro??!
[21:54] <Psilocybin_Elf> What was wrong with FREE software?
[21:54] <brantrux> it was my last resort after 2 days of trying to get xubuntu installed. I had everything all set up and readt to go then tryed to get into my BIOS to boot from my card reader and what do you know, the previous owner of my LAPTOP set a password and i cant contact him...   any thoughts
[21:54] <likemindead> I chipped in $20 for Elive 2.0 a few months back. Glad I did. It's pretty sweet.
[21:55] <brantrux> And i dont have any blank cdr's
[21:56] <brantrux> Im pretty new but i know this is where all the people who know there s**t go...
[21:57] <brantrux> a couple of you tryed to help me last night but my comp almost went out the window...  lol
[21:59] <likemindead> You can remove the little battery on the motherboard and reset the BIOS password.
[22:00] <likemindead> Also: http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-bios-password.html
[22:00] <brantrux> its a laptop, the password is on a "security chip", so removing the cmos battery wont work right?
[22:01] <B-r00t> brantrux: you have AWARD BIOS?
[22:01] <likemindead> Is Memtest86+ finished when it says "Pass100%" at the top?
[22:01] <B-r00t> brantrux: try to type AWARD-SW
[22:01] <brantrux> acer, no back doors i thunk
[22:02] <brantrux> Bios=acrsys
[22:06] <B-r00t> The program CmosPwd can be used to crack the CMOS passwords on ACER, IBM, AMIBIOS, Award BIOS, Compaq, DELL, Packard Bell, Phoenix, Toshiba, and Zenith machines. This runs under Linux or DOS/windows.
[22:06] <charlie-tca> likemindead, There are several parts to it. Is anything still running?
[22:06] <likemindead> Oh, it said, all done no errors at the bottom.
[22:07] <charlie-tca> then it should be done
[22:07] <likemindead> Took out that stick, put in the second to test, and the machine won't even boot to the BIOS! :-\
[22:07] <likemindead> Guess I found my problem.
[22:07] <charlie-tca> brantrux, even laptops depend on the cmos battery to maintain that memory in the chip