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DiogenesWgute nacht00:03
harolddongclaydoh:  I uninstalled, purged and made sure I got all the right packages from the repo but the issue remains00:04
harolddongoh well00:04
claydohdid  you uninstall all packages (2 of them)00:04
harolddongyes00:04
harolddongI think it needs different python packages or soemthing00:05
claydohharolddong: dunno as it is working for me in 10.10, you may need to contact the backintime folks maybe?  they run that ppa00:05
naviretlavmoetunes: Why I have those errors while updating ? Nad how to fix them ? http://wklej.org/id/427350/00:17
moetunesnaviretlav:  seems you can't connect to launchpad for some reason00:19
moetunestry pinging it00:19
moetunesping -c 3 ppa.launchpad.net00:20
naviretlavmoetunes: PING ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.90.217) 56(84) bytes of data.00:26
naviretlav--- ppa.launchpad.net ping statistics ---00:26
naviretlav3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2001ms00:26
moetunesnaviretlav:  I can ping it so check your network00:26
naviretlavmoetunes: I'm using wi-fi00:26
naviretlavmoetunes: but everything works fine00:27
naviretlavmoetunes: I don't have any ide why this stoped to work00:27
moetunesnaviretlav:  it doesn't seem like it is00:27
naviretlavmoetunes: where I should look ?00:27
naviretlavmoetunes: and yesterday everything was ok00:27
moetunes3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2031ms - for me pinging launchpad00:28
moetunesnaviretlav:  can you ping google?00:28
naviretlavmoetunes: --- google.pl ping statistics ---00:29
naviretlav3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms00:29
naviretlavrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 80.467/81.736/82.462/0.900 ms00:29
moetunesnaviretlav:  no idea why you can't ping launchpad then00:29
naviretlavmoetunes: but synaptic works fine00:31
naviretlavmoetunes: only update manager is freesing00:32
moetunesnaviretlav:  it does seem strange00:32
naviretlavmoetunes: I even disabled all repos00:32
moetunesnaviretlav:  comment the ppa's for now00:32
moetunesnaviretlav:  how are you starting update-manager?00:34
naviretlavmoetunes: from menu -> programs -> setings -> update manager00:35
moetunesnaviretlav:  try starting it from konsole to look for errors00:36
naviretlavnaviretlav@Navi-PC:~$ sudo update-manager00:37
naviretlavTraceback (most recent call last):00:37
naviretlav  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/backend/InstallBackendSynaptic.py", line 37, in _on_synaptic_exit00:37
naviretlav    self.emit("action-done", action)00:37
naviretlavTypeError: 2 parameters needed for signal action-done; 1 given00:37
FloodBotK1naviretlav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:37
moetunesnaviretlav:  is synaptic open?00:39
naviretlavmoetunes: now .. no00:39
moetunesit was before?00:39
naviretlavmoetunes: yes , but not at the start of the os ... and I tried to kill synaptic from console, and it's closed00:40
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moetunesnaviretlav:  so with no synaptic open how does update-manager go? - you should have a switch with it afaik00:41
moetunessomething like -d00:42
naviretlavmoetunes: stil the same problem00:45
naviretlavmoetunes: maybe I should uninstal synaptic ?00:45
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moetunesnaviretlav:  worth a shot - you'll still have kpackagekit00:46
naviretlavmoetunes: lol , with synaptic , I also lost update-manager00:49
moetunesheh00:49
naviretlavmoetunes: still the same error00:51
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moetunesnaviretlav:  does sudo apt-get update work?00:52
naviretlavmoetunes: yes00:53
naviretlavmoetunes: but I removed all repos00:53
moetunesnaviretlav:  add the repos back and try again00:54
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naviretlavmoetunes: I need only http://ppa.launchpad.net/maverick-bleed/ppa/ubuntu ??00:54
moetunesnaviretlav:  not if you can't ping it00:55
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pandu32pagi all01:57
pandu32salam dari kubuntu indonesia01:57
moetunes!indonesia01:58
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia01:58
moetunespandu32:  ^^01:58
pandu32OK01:58
pandu32 sorry01:58
pandu32:)01:58
moetunesnp :)01:58
youlunDoes anyone know why when, using Twinview, windows maximize under my panel?02:16
wqapolI am in Kubuntu 10.04. knetworkmanager doesn't open. I also tried in  terminal, doesnt open/output anything. What might be wrong?02:28
GabrielYYZdon't even show an error?02:31
moetuneswqapol:  does   ps aux | grep -i net   return anything02:31
wqapolGabrielYYZ: No02:31
wqapolmoetunes: Yes http://pastebin.com/eQVyVnw202:32
moetuneswqapol:  that says knetworkmanager is already running02:33
wqapolmoetunes: But I dont see the window02:33
moetuneswqapol:  you could try   killall -v knetworkmanager && knetworkmanager02:34
Snowhogwqapol: Isn't the networkmanager icon in your system tray?02:36
wqapolSnowhog: No, BUT just sec will pastebin what moetunes told02:37
wqapolmoetunes: have a look at this http://pastebin.com/Xj5Vv0Jy02:38
seawinghello, I just installed an nvidia 220 card and when I started the computer, I an booted directly into the shell with no gui.  anyone out there know what I should do?  I am running Kubuntu 9.0402:39
moetuneswqapol:  that doesn't look too good - i guess a window didn't open?02:39
wqapolmoetunes: I even tried restarting, knetwork manager is the only window that doesnt open02:40
moetuneswqapol:  is this a default install? - is this a new error?02:41
wqapolmoetunes: Well, actually I have another issue which I am trying to solve through that network manager,... My dns set in resolv.conf resets everytime i rebot. what might be the exact problem?02:41
wqapolmoetunes: default install of kubuntu 10.04 two days agao02:42
wqapolmoetunes: was never able to open network manager since i installed the os02:42
moetuneswqapol:  did you do the cd check before installing?02:43
moetuneserrors in that can give unpredictable issues02:43
wqapolmoetunes: No I did not.02:43
moetuneswqapol:  I would do the check on that now02:43
moetunesto know if you started from a solid base02:44
wqapolmoetunes: great I will do that right now. thanks for all the help02:44
moetunesnp :)02:44
GabrielYYZwqapol: check this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=758920 and check "anti-destin" post02:44
moetunesI'm sure he got some corrupted files installed from a bad cd burn02:45
moetunesit sure looks that way02:45
wqapolGabrielYYZ: /etc/rc.d/networkmanager stop --> bash: /etc/rc.d/networkmanager: No such file or directory02:46
moetunesarchlinux does things different to ubuntu oses02:47
GabrielYYZwell, then i guess i'll have to agree with moetunes and corrupted files02:47
wqapolwell am on it. just popped in th dvd. Do i have to restart?02:48
moetunesyep02:48
wqapolmoetunes: well this is the only Pc right now. need to shut down then. will report back later thanks again02:49
moetunesnp :)02:49
GabrielYYZit looks like that's a 10.04 bug though: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110915.0 a guy there had the same problem in april of this year02:51
wqapolmoetunes: GabrielYYZ: Network manager issue: cd check done "Check finished: No errors found"02:55
wqapolI guess I can handle the network manager issue later, but my actual problem is dns resetting after reboot02:56
moetuneswqapol:  well check the link GabrielYYZ posted -  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110915.002:56
werwolfanethttp://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/25/802:57
moetuneswerwolfanet:  pls don't post links without an explanation of what they are02:58
moetunesit looks like spam02:58
GabrielYYZmy memory fails but i think you edit /etc/resolv.conf with your dns and then sudo chmod 000 it02:58
moetunesI have never had to do that02:58
relleyedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and include your preferred DHS server on the "prepend" line02:59
GabrielYYZi did it when i was using ubuntu lucid02:59
werwolfanetok. I'm interessted anybody try this on ubuntu 10.10? http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/25/802:59
GabrielYYZahh yeah @ relley. that's it02:59
werwolfanetread befor you try this! it's important if you open ssh access for non root users03:02
relleywqapol: you cool?03:05
wqapolmoetunes: GabrielYYZ: from that post: wicpd warns about authetication of some packages.  should i go ahead?03:05
wqapolrelley: yes testing out the resolv.conf suggestions now03:06
moetuneswqapol:  it should be fine03:06
WestyvwI want to make an envrypted folder, what should I use in KDE?03:06
relleyWestyvw: Truecrypt works well for me03:06
Westyvwis it available in the repos?03:07
Westyvwoh i see easycrypt03:07
WestyvwOk I can do that, I used to do it all manually using fuse and encryptfs but knew it must be easier nowdays.03:08
relleyIt's all easier than the old days... :)03:08
Westyvwso it uses truecrypt from the .org site eh?03:09
relleytalking about easycrypt? or Truecrypt?03:10
Westyvweasycrypt wants truecrypt, launches web page03:11
wqapolrelley: ok i edited both your s and GabrielYYZ's edit. Just to know which file takes precedence, resolv.conf or dhclient.conf?03:11
relleyyeah, looks like easycrypt is a GUI for Truecrypt. So, yes you will need truecrypt for it03:12
relleytho truecrypt is a pretty straitforward program... shouldn't need easycrypt. Your choice though03:14
relleywqapol: not understanding last statement03:15
wqapolrelley: I mean during boot up which DNS are used, the one specified in resolv.conf or dhcpclient.conf?03:16
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relleyseems that dhcpclient.conf would be the best bet03:21
relleynot 100% on that03:21
wqapolrelley: Hmm ok restarting now to test if everythings perfect, I really need Open dns since my ISP's dns are very slow.03:22
relleyokey03:23
wqapolmoetunes: installed wicd , even this one when entered in terminal --> sudo wicd outputs nothing.03:23
valoriewicd and knetworkmanager don't work well together in 10.1003:24
valorieas in, won't work at all03:24
wqapolvalorie: oh so any other alternatives, btw am on 10.04.03:25
wqapolvalorie: oh they dont work together, well i will remove knetwork manger then03:25
* wqapol restarts the pc while not being able to access IRC03:26
valorieI had them both in 10.04 with no problems03:26
valorieI don't know what the diff is03:26
wqapolvalorie: yes after restart wicd works even though knetworkmanager (still unistalled) doesnt open. thanks03:35
valorieoh, good03:38
wqapolHow do I check if the DNS I set are indeed being used now? Set Google Open DNS.03:38
valorieI had problems with networkmgr in 10.0403:38
valoriethus the wicd03:38
valorieno problems in 10.10, except when I upgraded, and wicd was still there03:39
wqapolvalorie: hmm wish i could upgrade. bu 10.10 doeesnt work withnvidia drivers for me.03:40
moetuneswqapol:  do you have a router?03:40
wqapolmoetunes: yes03:40
moetunesset that as the nameserver03:41
wqapolmoetunes: you mean 192.168.1.1?03:41
moetunesyep03:41
moetunesthat's one of the jobs routers were built for03:41
wqapolmoetunes: but then that would be using my ISP's dns, and thats what  I want to avoid, the slow ISP's DNS03:42
Snowhogwqapol: Access the routers configuration and change the DNS entries to what you want to use.03:42
wqapolSnowhog: I have a doubt. I first set my own dns in routers settings, but that did not reflect in my OS So now I  set that in dhcpclient.conf. Now I want to test if its being used, how can i do that?03:45
relleymaybe unplug router and test dns locally03:54
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Snowhogwqapol: /etc/resolv.conf should contain a single line containing: nameserver IP (where IP is the IP address to your router). The router is configured with the DNS entries you want to use.03:59
wqapolSnowhog: Thanks, that cleared my doubts perfectly.04:01
wqapolSnowhog: relley: http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/aboutyou.ch seems to tell the dns we are using, Does it work for you as expected?04:02
wqapolFor me it shows 209.85.174.82 as the dns used which belongs to google. So that clarifies the change works.04:05
* wqapol bows to everyone on this channel for their kind support.04:06
distroUpgradeI've downloaded the latest [10.10] 32-bit ISO. How do I upgrade my VM from 10.04 to 10.10, using the iso as the repository?06:30
moetunesafaik you can only do that with the alternate cd but check this out06:34
moetunes!upgrade06:34
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:34
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harolddongdoes anybody know anything about if and when the 4.6 beta will be available?06:55
moetunesit's still being worked on so soon is the best answer06:56
eagles0513875hey guys i got some questions relating to maverick and having kubuntu setup on a netbook07:23
eagles0513875firstly why on earth to start up07:23
eagles0513875after using the net install via usb do i need to use the usb to boot off my hdd?07:23
valorieyou shouldn't07:24
valoriedid you try restarting after the net install was done?07:24
eagles0513875valorie: i know but it seems like i do otherwise nothing boots07:24
eagles0513875yes07:24
eagles0513875and nothign booted07:24
eagles0513875checked bios settings reset to default07:24
eagles0513875still same issue nothing boots07:24
eagles0513875when i put in the usb i choose usb then it boots to my hdd07:24
valoriedid you verify the files on your USB?07:25
eagles0513875yes07:25
eagles0513875i used unetbootin to create the bootable usb07:25
moetunesyou put the bootloader on the usb it seems07:25
eagles0513875when i went through the installer07:25
valorieoh, I did that once07:25
valoriesucked07:25
eagles0513875it asked me to put the grub on the MBR07:25
valoriebut I did fix it07:25
eagles0513875why the heck would it do that if07:25
eagles0513875i specified the hdd and not the usb07:25
eagles0513875to install on07:25
valorieyou made a wrong choice somewhere in the setup07:26
eagles0513875valorie: how can i fix it07:26
valoriehappens07:26
valoriesec07:26
eagles0513875ok07:26
eagles0513875also another question07:26
eagles0513875i go into settings and i disable my track pad yet it still steagles0513875: ays enabled07:26
eagles0513875stays*07:26
valoriehttp://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/10/grub2-and-chroots-dammit.html07:26
eagles0513875wtf07:27
valorieread through that and see if any of it applies07:27
eagles0513875why doesnt kubuntu know to use my browser07:27
eagles0513875ffs bstop asking me to choose a program07:27
valorieI wasn't the only one making the error.....07:27
eagles0513875ha07:28
eagles0513875found something interesting07:28
eagles0513875valorie:07:28
eagles0513875quick fix07:28
FloodBotK1eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.07:28
valoriesilly floodbot07:29
eagles0513875upon apt-cache policy of grub2 its showing not installed so a simple apt-get install grub2 should fix the problem07:29
valoriecool07:29
valorieyou didn't make as serious an error as I did, then07:29
valorie:-)07:29
eagles05138752nd question07:29
eagles0513875i disable my trackpad yet it still keeps on tracking07:29
valorieby disable it, what do you mean?07:30
valoriethe keyboard switch?07:30
eagles0513875turn it off07:30
eagles0513875you know how some laptops have a button to turn it off so if you hit it the mouse wont move or anything07:30
valorieright07:30
eagles0513875i do that07:30
eagles0513875via setting yet its not disabled07:30
valoriesounds like that button isn't correctly mapped07:30
valorieugh07:31
eagles0513875:-/07:31
valorieI remapped something eons ago07:31
eagles0513875it makes it a royal pain to type sometimes on here07:31
valorieIt can be done07:31
valorieit's just fiddly07:31
geekosopheriirc, there is a howto on ubuntu forums about it... looking for it07:31
valoriehttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting07:32
valorieis one07:32
eagles0513875ok07:33
valorielooks like it's gotten a bit easier07:33
geekosophereagles0513875: have a look at this, may be not exactly relating to your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162943307:33
valorieugh, that's a bit old07:33
valorieI would look for something newer07:33
eagles0513875the thing is the disabling of a touchpad exists in system settings07:34
eagles0513875its jst not toggling the trackpad off07:34
eagles0513875brb going to test my grub fix07:34
valorielordy07:34
geekosophervalorie: hi07:34
valoriehi geekosopher07:35
moetunesa nice way to disable the touchpad while typing - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing07:35
eagles0513875bah im on frmo my mac07:35
eagles0513875still not working07:35
eagles0513875will try run grub update07:35
eagles0513875valorie: ^07:37
valoriegood luck!07:37
eagles0513875thanks07:37
eagles0513875rebooting again07:37
eagles0513875ffs :(07:38
eagles0513875nothing07:38
eagles0513875it makes no sense why would it put grub on the mbr of the usb and not the hdd07:38
valoriesadly, it does what you tell it to do, rather than what you want it to do07:38
geekosophereagles0513875: if I understand correctly, its only the grub that is getting installed on the usb right? rest of the system is on the hdd?07:41
eagles0513875geekosopher: correct07:41
eagles0513875i installed grub 2 via commandline ran grub2-update07:41
eagles0513875or what ever that command is and still nothing07:41
geekosophereagles0513875: then once you boot, remove the usb, and then try installing grub again07:42
eagles0513875tried that07:42
eagles0513875once i boot i remove the usb07:42
geekosopherthen what happens?07:42
valorieand then exactly what happens?07:42
moetunes!grub2 | this tells how to fix it eagles051387507:43
ubottuthis tells how to fix it eagles0513875: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:43
eagles0513875thanks ill have to take a look at that later07:43
eagles0513875geekosopher:  and valorie once i remove usb07:44
eagles0513875im on the system as normal using the hdd07:44
geekosophereagles0513875: and then, did you install grub? does it give any errors?07:45
eagles0513875geekosopher: i have it installee07:46
eagles0513875at first i didnt07:46
eagles0513875then i installed it last go round07:46
eagles0513875it seems like it still wants the usb07:46
eagles0513875could it be i used the net installation of kubuntu07:46
valoriewhat do you mean, "seems like it still wants the USB?"07:46
eagles0513875i get a blank black screen with a lil flashing cursor07:47
eagles0513875cant do anything with it07:47
eagles0513875nothing loads unless i use the usb07:48
valorieok, that's the console07:48
geekosophereagles0513875: what is the output of the terminal when you install grub (after removing the usb)07:48
eagles0513875geekosopher: nothing out of the ordinary07:49
* geekosopher thinks 'ordinary' is subjective07:51
valorieindeed07:51
eagles0513875no errors no nothing just normal out put you get with apt-get install07:53
bigbrovarhas anyone managed to get bluetooth headset working with bluedevil on kubuntu 10.10?07:54
Ganymedehello, i'm an ubuntu user (GNOME desktop) and i just installed kde 4.5.3 using the kubuntu-backports PPA (upgraded from lucid non-PPA 4.3.x). But now, instead of KDE apps using the Skulpture widget style as I've specified in systemsettings, they are using my GTK theme...they are trying to blend into my GNOME desktop. How do I make KDE apps use their own Skulpture style?07:55
valorieeagles0513875: what about maybe doing apt-get update07:55
valorieand then upgrade07:55
GanymedePreviously, KDE apps used the Skulpture style even when run inside a GNOME desktop session.07:55
valoriemaybe you are missing some bits somewhere07:55
eagles0513875valorie: did that and also ran dist-upgrade to install any updates07:55
eagles0513875and there were none07:56
valorieand yet, no desktop?07:56
eagles0513875i have a desktop07:56
eagles0513875if i use the usb07:56
eagles0513875question07:56
eagles0513875when i raun update- and tabbed twice07:56
valoriehmmm, that sounds like it isn't going online to get updates'07:56
eagles0513875why is therean option to run update-grub and update-grub207:56
valoriebut getting them from the USB07:56
eagles0513875valorie: im alreayd up todate07:56
eagles0513875i updated yesterday and the net install pulled all the latest maverick items07:57
valorieI would put that USB away where you computer doesn't know about it07:57
valorielol07:57
eagles0513875TRYING07:57
eagles0513875sry bout that07:57
eagles0513875ran update-grub this time now we see if it loads07:57
eagles0513875ffs07:57
eagles0513875blessed net install07:57
eagles0513875sigh :(07:58
eagles0513875guess ill have to download the iso07:58
eagles0513875and redo the installation07:59
eagles0513875what do you guys think07:59
valoriesadly, I ended up doing that, for an entirely other reason07:59
eagles0513875you guys have any ideas08:00
valoriebut it went well08:00
valorieand this time I used a CD08:00
eagles0513875would the grub configuration be pointing at the wrong thing in regards to booting now that i have grub2 installed should i point it away from teh usb somehow08:00
valorienot sure if that made a difference08:00
eagles0513875valorie: :p easier said then done on a netbook08:00
valorieyeah08:00
valorieyes, you def. should08:01
eagles0513875any other things to try08:01
valorieuse that escape key as reboot is happening08:01
valorieand make sure the HD is at the top of the list08:01
eagles0513875the HD is at the top of the list08:02
eagles0513875if i click on it it goes to black screen with flashing cursor08:02
valoriewhich is one of your consoles08:03
eagles0513875no08:03
eagles0513875its not08:03
eagles0513875cant type on it cant login cant do anything08:04
valorieoh, ugh08:04
eagles0513875this is an asus eeepc 1001px08:05
eagles0513875wiht an intel gma 315008:05
valorieand you are putting 10.10 on it, right?08:06
geekosophereagles0513875: can you give the output of sudo blkid08:07
geekosopherand of 'df'08:07
geekosophereagles0513875: if the list is long you can use !pastebin08:09
geekosopher!pastebin | eagles051387508:09
ubottueagles0513875: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:09
eagles0513875i know08:10
eagles0513875im on from a different computer and i have to jump back and forth between the two08:10
geekosophereagles0513875: sure, I didn't know that you knew ;)08:10
valoriesympathies, I've been there08:10
eagles0513875hehe geekosopher its ok m808:11
eagles0513875i have been around since edgy so i know well and true about pastebin08:11
eagles0513875http://pastebin.com/1bcgKKpj08:11
eagles0513875i think i see the problem08:11
eagles0513875possibly08:11
eagles0513875wtf is /dev/shm?08:12
geekosophereagles0513875: i wouldn't worry about that; and what is it on your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?08:13
eagles0513875http://pastbein.com/zNc4cZK4 <----thats the grub.cfg geekosopher08:14
moetunes/dev/shm is nothing but implementation of traditional shared memory concept. It is an efficient means of passing data between programs08:15
eagles0513875moetunes: ok08:16
geekosophereagles0513875: that link is not working for me08:16
valoriepastebin is misspelled08:16
eagles0513875geekosopher: correct the spelling of pastebin08:16
eagles0513875lol08:16
eagles0513875sry08:16
valoriehttp://pastebin.com/zNc4cZK408:16
geekosopherhehe, i got it08:17
eagles0513875sry bout that08:17
eagles0513875used pastebinit to paste directly to pastebin08:17
eagles0513875and copied link from cli on netbook to irc by hand on laptop08:17
geekosophercan't see anything wrong there,08:19
geekosopherneed to go for something urgent... brb08:20
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eagles0513875:( sigh08:29
eagles0513875valorie: no idea as to my issue :(08:48
geekosophereagles0513875: sorry for holding you up, any progress?08:48
eagles0513875no08:48
eagles0513875i have to finish up something for church :(08:48
valorienot beyond my blog post08:48
eagles0513875so its on hold on my part atm08:48
valorieI did some googling, but haven't found much of use08:49
moetuneswhat was the result with grub2 installed to the hdd and the usb not connected at boot time?08:50
eagles0513875moetunes: it seems like grub 2 was installed to the usb somehow and not to the hdd08:53
eagles0513875and the usb was connected cuz i was installing it on a netbook08:53
eagles0513875i installed grub2 via apt-get and its still not booting with out the usb08:53
moetunesI know that, I thought you installed grub2 to the hdd after we found that out08:54
moetunesk08:54
eagles0513875i used the netinstaller08:54
eagles0513875not sure if thats buggy for maverick or what08:54
moetuneseagles0513875:  is the app   grub-setup   installed there?08:54
eagles0513875?08:55
eagles0513875installed where08:55
moetuneson your kubuntu install08:55
eagles0513875h/o08:55
moetunesin konsole type grub and hit the tab key twice to check08:56
eagles0513875its there08:56
moetunestry  sudo grub-setup /dev/sda08:56
moetunesand leave the usb out of the comp08:57
moetunes !!!08:57
moetunes:)08:57
eagles0513875its done already08:59
eagles0513875didnt take a sec to complete08:59
eagles0513875O_o08:59
eagles0513875moetunes: should i try reboot now09:02
moetunestry a reboot without the usb connected09:02
eagles0513875rebooting now09:02
moetunesluck09:02
eagles0513875coming back up now we will see if it work09:02
eagles0513875yay09:02
eagles0513875:)09:02
eagles0513875that did the trick09:02
FloodBotK1eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:02
moetuneswoot!09:03
eagles0513875ty moetunes09:03
moetunesnp :) glad it worked09:03
* eagles0513875 tosses moetunes a big fat juicy steak and ribs09:03
eagles0513875:)09:03
valoriewoooooooooooooo!09:03
moetuneshehe09:03
eagles0513875:)09:03
eagles0513875learned somethign new today as well :)09:03
* eagles0513875 pokes geekosopher :)09:03
* geekosopher pokes back09:04
geekosophereagles0513875: donate that usb stick to someone ;)09:04
moetunesI don't know why installing grub2 didn't run grub-setup tho...09:05
* geekosopher sees moetunes getting fat with all these juicy steaks and ribs on this way09:05
moetunesheh :)09:06
* eagles0513875 tosses geekosopher and valorie some as well for their time and help09:07
eagles0513875moetunes: its strange09:07
eagles0513875i woulda thought the grub2 woudl automatically install it to the boot loader09:08
eagles0513875i mean the MBR09:08
* geekosopher is a vegetarian09:08
* eagles0513875 tossses a farm and his field at geekosopher09:08
geekosopher:D09:08
geekosophereagles0513875: it does, but it installs it to the first device on its path, and I guess, when you attached the usb, it thought that usb was the first device09:10
geekosopheri remember someone complaining about the similar problem, and he had kept his memory card in the netbook, and removing it solved the problem :)09:11
eagles0513875geekosopher: thats just wrong09:12
eagles0513875if i tell it to install to my 160gb hdd it should install it there and not onto the usb09:12
geekosophersome programs seem to have mind of their own09:13
eagles0513875bug reporting time09:13
geekosophersure, check for dupes first09:14
moetunessince the usb was the install drive grub might have seen it as the first disk09:14
moetunesthe one to install to09:14
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valoriethe bug report is on my blog09:16
valorieseems to be a bug which only shows up using a USB key09:16
valoriewhich SUCKS09:16
valoriesec09:16
FloodBotK1valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:16
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geekosophervalorie flooding the channel!!! :D09:16
valorierofl09:20
eagles0513875valorie: whats odd is i use it to install my desktop09:21
eagles0513875and grub has never done that to me before09:21
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eagles0513875using the alt install or the normal cd image09:21
geekosopherI have heard of these problems for netbooks only... can't guess the difference09:23
eagles0513875O_o09:23
eagles0513875interesting09:23
valoriemy laptop isn't a netbook09:26
eagles0513875i have a laptop which is mac lol09:26
eagles0513875desktop09:26
eagles0513875and netbook09:26
eagles0513875i have machines coming outa my ears09:26
valorieand this puter is the one I had the problem with09:26
FloodBotK1eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:26
eagles0513875and a server09:26
valorieonly the one time09:26
valoriewhich maybe is why they haven't fixed the bug09:26
valorieI have a netbook, but bought it pre-installed with kubuntu09:27
valoriethen it died09:27
valorie:(09:27
valorienow in the shop09:27
geekosopherwow, pre-installed kubuntu!?09:27
valorieyep, zareason.com09:28
valorieexcellent company09:28
geekosopheroh, ok09:28
geekosopherI read about them opening shop in europe (was it zareason or system76?)... hope they expand to Asia and open a shop India as well09:33
valoriethat I don't know09:33
valorieshipping can get so expensive09:34
eagles0513875im so tempted to build a new i7 rig09:37
eagles0513875for 1,800 USD09:38
eagles0513875turn my quad into a server in the cloud09:38
valorie180009:39
valoriethat must be quite a machine, or computers are really expensive where you are09:39
eagles0513875they are expensive09:40
eagles0513875thats about 1300 euros09:41
eagles05138752 yrs ago i built same price09:41
eagles0513875a core 2 quad q9550 2.83 ghz with 8gb of ram09:41
eagles0513875case09:41
eagles05138751gb 8800gt09:41
eagles0513875500gb hdd, cd drive and an asus motherboard p5n-d as well as monitor and keyboard09:41
eagles0513875but now this will be just the tower for that price09:41
valoriethis laptop is dual core09:42
valorienice when I'm building amarok09:42
* geekosopher turning red with envy09:42
valorieis a nice laptop, and my only computer09:42
valorieuntil the netbook flies home to me09:43
valorieI'm a privileged woman, for sure09:44
valorieour first computer was a Coleco ADAM09:44
valorie80K memory!09:44
valorieand cassette tape storage09:44
valoriefirst modem was 300 baud!09:45
valorieI could out-type it09:45
valorielol09:45
valorienot tempted to live in the past, not at all09:45
eagles0513875valorie: ha im stuck with my macbook pro which i dont mind but my desk is clutter beyond belief09:52
eagles0513875macbook and netbook now09:52
eagles0513875lol09:52
eagles0513875once i finish this macbook is off the desk for no09:52
eagles0513875lol 1gb in netbook09:53
eagles0513875quite entertaining to use and try to compile at the same time09:53
eagles0513875had to rma all my desktop ram09:54
eagles0513875to corsair as it had errors like no other hence no desktop09:54
eagles0513875|2bah stupid connection10:00
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DiogenesWservus10:48
skaftihey having problems with update can someone help11:18
skaftistuck on package manage lock11:18
skaftiwere the f*** is it11:19
skaftiusing package manager11:19
plan_richkpackagekit?11:21
skaftiyes11:21
plan_richtry sudo apt-get upgrade11:21
plan_richif it says something like cannot get lock file11:22
plan_richyou cloud either restart or kill process of kpackagekit (or programm updating)11:22
skaftii get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem11:24
skaftihow do i kill the process11:32
skaftiim just curious why i dont get the option of unlocking the process in package kit11:33
skafticant cancel the update in package kit11:36
skaftican i manually cancel it in console11:36
skaftino one there11:43
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adriansHow can I add a printer in Kubuntu 10.10?12:13
sresuDoes restore previous session in System settings restores only KDE applications>12:20
sresu?12:20
sresuPlatform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)12:20
dreamtheaterI just tried to install kubuntu alongside opensuse. Unfortunately, GRUB doesn't start anymore. How can I reinstall it from the kubuntu live cd?12:23
matiashola a todos...hablan español?12:27
jukhow to upgrade from ubuntu?12:28
matiashi!12:33
sresu!spanish12:33
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.12:33
sresumatias^^12:33
matiasspanish12:33
sresumatias: </join #ubuntu-es>12:34
matiasok12:34
matiasi join kubuntu12:34
sresudreamtheater: What are you trying to do?12:34
matiasmmmmmmm, other so12:35
sresudreamtheater: If you want to install Kubuntu alone as OS, format the drive and install12:35
matiasok12:35
sresumatias: ?12:35
matiasyes12:35
sresumatias: what? Probably you will get better help in #ubuntu-es12:36
matiasok bye bye12:36
dreamtheatersresu: I want to dual boot opensuse and kubuntu.12:42
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ikoniadreamtheater: thats actually quite hard now with the current grub2 functionality and how it stores it's configs12:50
kaddiHi,12:53
dreamtheaterikonia: Can you tell me how to make GRUB boot again?12:53
ikoniadreamtheater: I have no idea, it depends what the problem is12:54
kaddiI'm trying to upgrade to maverick and am getting this error message: 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend x11-common for x11-xkb-utils, probably a dependency cycle.'  I have looked at google and there's a multitude of solutions there. Before I start trying one after another, could you tell me if there is a preferred/endorsed solution for this or if I should just try them one after another?12:55
plan_richdreamtheater12:57
plan_richdreamtheater: you could execute update-grub as root, then it remakes the config12:57
kaddi I'm a little queasy when thinking of "just" uninstalling xorg before the upgrade :s12:59
dreamtheaterplan_rich: I'd just like get grub working again (with the config stored on /dev/sda1)12:59
plan_richkk then try mounting your dev/sda113:00
plan_rich/dev/sda113:00
dreamtheaterplan_rich: Then, when it's working again, I'd edit the menu.lst to boot kubuntu too.13:00
plan_richand sudo grub-mkconfig /media/opensusedisk/boot/grub/grub.cfg13:01
dreamtheaterplan_rich: OK, thank you!13:02
plan_richkaddi i see no problem in deinstalling xorg upgrading and den installing plasma-desktop again (should resolve all issues)13:03
kaddiok, going with that then13:04
plan_richdid you upgrade using the gui?13:04
kaddiused do=release-upgrade13:04
kaddigoogle says that it has to do with the backports i've been using13:06
kaddiupgrade is running now13:08
plan_richk13:08
kaddistay tuned for what happens after the reboot :p13:08
plan_richwell13:08
kaddihopefully nothing exciting :D13:08
plan_richif your kwin manager does not work properly13:09
plan_richyou should reinstall plasma-desktop package13:09
plan_richi never ever made a dist upgrade without having this problem13:09
kaddii've never really had issues upgrading, up til now. So I'm optimistic13:09
kaddiat least none that weren't directly related to bugs within ubuntu13:10
kaddiupgrade to jaunty was a major PITA, as I am running Intel chips13:10
kaddiit's removing plasma-desktop now :D13:21
skaftidoes someone know how to take off the damm screen suspending !13:26
skaftitaken it off in screen saver setting but keeps turning off the screen anyways13:28
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ggeorgyhi can you help me to install a program ? please13:50
kaddiwhat kind of program?13:51
ggeorgya zip pakage13:51
ggeorgyhttp://img808.imageshack.us/img808/507/capturecrani.png13:51
kaddihave you checked if the program is available in the repository?13:52
ggeorgyno13:52
kaddii would suggest you do that first13:52
ggeorgypk13:52
ggeorgyok13:53
kaddiit's usually better to use the version from repository, as it will get updated and is known to work on kubuntu13:53
ggeorgyis a game13:53
ggeorgyhttp://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Simulation/RARS-22001.shtml13:53
ggeorgyi want learn how install this type of programs13:54
kaddiopen the file called INSTALL and read the instructions there, they usually contain all the steps you need to do to install them13:55
ggeorgyok13:58
kaddilet me know if you don't nderstand certain steps13:58
ggeorgyyes13:59
ggeorgynot work14:05
kaddibrb14:05
BluesKajhiyas all14:12
kaddihi, itäs me again14:12
kaddido i did the upgrade and i got a bucketload of errors on the reboot mostly ext4-fs error ext4-getinode-loc, edpma queues and drdyerror14:13
kaddiit finally started a checkdisk and is now asking me whether i want to fix the errors. Should i try to mount or is ti safe to try and fix the errorsß14:14
GreyGeekkaddi:  I doubt you will be able to get it to compile.  It requires qt3 and kde2, which no distro supports any more because it is too old.14:16
GreyGeekkaddi: oops  I meant to type qt2 not qt314:16
kaddii am not trying to compile anzthing14:17
kaddijust trying to boot into ubuntu after upgrade14:17
kaddiGreyGeek:14:17
ggeorgyi m back14:17
GreyGeekkaddi:  sorry, I should have addressed my response to ggreorgy14:17
GreyGeekggreorgy:  see my misplaced response to kaddi14:18
kaddiGreyGeek: if you would have any input for me that would be awesum rtoo :p14:18
ggeorgysorry my computer was locked  so i restarted14:18
GreyGeekkaddi:  what response are you getting while trying to reboot after the upgrade?14:19
kaddiit reboots fine, then i can choose the kernel too boot. I get the errors mentioned above, so obviously my ext4 partition is corrupted and ubuntu automatically starts a chkdsk. Then says "Errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" Sicne this is the first time I see it AND I just upgraded I'm unsure which option to choose: Fix, Skip, Ignore?14:21
kaddiI don't want to corrupt my install by having it fix errors14:22
kaddibut i don't know if I can break stuff by skipping the fixes either?14:22
ggeorgyyou want upgrade from lucid to maverick?14:23
kaddiI already did14:23
ggeorgyyes but its recomanded a clean install14:23
kaddiGreyGeek: basically I want someone to tell me that if I choose "fix errors" in all likelihood no damage will be done and it'll boot afterwards14:24
GreyGeekkaddi:  you really have no choice except to choose the "Fix" option.   Even if some of the files are damaged you can use a repair command to restore the distro.14:24
kaddiGreyGeek: ok, or that :D14:24
BluesKajkaddi my understanding is that kubuntu will still install properly on ext3 file systems..someone correct me if I'm wrong14:25
GreyGeekKaddi:   after fschk finishes, and assuming you get a desktop or console you can issue "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and/or sudo apt-get -f install"14:25
kaddiBluesKaj: are you saying i should reformat to ext3 and ditch ext4?14:26
BluesKajkaddi, no14:26
GreyGeekKaddi:  there is nothing wrong with the ext4 fs.14:26
kaddioh, ok.. I was just wondering. I have ext4 formatted drives14:27
BluesKajI ssumed you were running ext3 from the errors you described..I encountered the same thing a while back14:27
kaddiah, ok :)14:27
kaddiis there any chance that this issue is realted to grub rewriting the device paths during the upgrade?14:28
GreyGeekkaddi:  more than likely your HD decided to blow a sector during your upgrade, and it takes fsck to fix that.14:28
kaddiok, it just automaticallz rebooted during the fsck14:29
GreyGeekkaddi:  that's normal... it needs to reload the superblocks.  It may do more than one fsck & reboot14:30
kaddiam looking at the grub entry now, it saysÖ insmod part_msods, insmod ext2. set root = '(hd1,msdos5)' does that sound correct?14:30
kaddiwell actually the first line says "recordfail"14:31
kaddihmm, i guess the designation changed during the upgrade14:34
ggeorgydo you have dualboot?14:34
GreyGeekkaddi:  part_msdos.mod and ext2.mod are in /boot/grub.14:35
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kaddik, i'm in but missing a gui, lol14:36
GreyGeekkaddi:  boot a livecd and when it comes up open a console and issue "fdisk /dev/sdX"  where X is a or b or c... what ever... for your HD14:36
yoostwhy does firefox look so old, it that something specific for just kubuntu? It seems like I have the latest version14:36
GreyGeekkaddi:   opps, too early in the morning .... that should be "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX"14:37
BluesKajyoost, which kubuntu ?14:37
kaddiI'm installing xorg atm14:37
yoostThe newest version, I installed it just a week ago14:38
yoostBluesKaj: 10.10 I think it is14:38
yofelyoost: that has firefox 3.6.12 which is the current stable version14:38
kaddiGreyGeek: I'll get to the livedisk if it remains unbootable after the next reboot :)14:38
GreyGeekkaddi: k14:39
kadditalking about FF and maverick: Will there be FF4 (64bit) for maverick?14:39
BluesKajyoost, describe "old"14:39
yoostyofel: ok seems weird since it looks like it's from 1992, not at all like the windows version14:39
GreyGeekkaddi:  they pulled FF4 until spring because of problems.14:40
kaddiargh, I'm so not up to date :(14:40
kaddithanks for letting me know14:40
BluesKajyoost, it might be the theme you've chosen14:40
GreyGeekkaddi:  I tried to download it a couple weeks ago.  The download site was up but it wasn't active.  A few moments later that site disappeared.14:41
yoostBluesKaj: the kubuntutheme you mean, does that effect browsers? Because chrome looks like it should14:41
kaddiLooks good :)14:41
yofelyoost: chrome has it's own theme, firefox uses the default gtk theme14:41
GreyGeekkaddi:  you were able to boot up?14:42
yofelyoost: see system settings -> application appearance -> gtk appearance14:42
BluesKajchrome isn't integrated to kde like FF , so the theme won't affect chrome like FF is affrctyed by themes14:42
kaddiI'm in :D14:42
kaddiGreyGeek: yes, actually already after the last reboot. But xorg was missing due to previous problems i've had, so i had no gui.14:42
GreyGeekkaddi:  Great!   Just to be sure everything fishished as it should in a console issue "sudo dpkg --configure -a"14:42
kaddiinstalled xorg and it's up and running now14:42
yoostyofel: ok that's probably it then, is it possible to change only firefox to something else and keep the settings for the rest of the kubuntu programs and windows14:42
yofelyoost: that will affect only gtk applications like firefox, thunderbird, ... Qt/KDE apps have their own theme settings14:43
skaftihey someone know how to disable monitor suspend, tryed everything i know of, just keeps suspending after ca 20 min14:43
kaddiw00t, even wicd is still installed. That's awesum14:43
yoostyofel: ok thanks14:43
GreyGeekkaddi:  looks like you have things under control.  You're going to like Maverick!    BTW, when the 2.6.35 kernel comes out you should see about a 60x increase in speed if you have a dual core or more14:44
yofelskafti: you did check in screensaver settings and power management settings?14:44
skaftiknow it sound silly14:44
skaftiyes14:44
yofelodd then o.O14:44
skaftiwas wondering if it was a bios thing14:44
kaddiGreyGeek: well we'll see about that.. atm most important thing is to get onlnie so i can ditch this german keyboard and get back to my lovely english one :p14:45
yofelskafti: could be, what do you have set for the 'performance' profile? (if you let powerdevil manage screen powersaving)14:45
GreyGeekkaddi:  were you typing in the blind?14:45
skafti?14:46
BluesKajskafti, perhaps you have the scrnsaver set to no options, but the time setting is enabled to 20 mins14:46
yofelskafti: in power management settings -> edit profiles -> screen14:46
yofelerm, edit profiles -> performance -> screen14:46
kaddiGreyGeek: no. but i usually do.. this is my parents pc and they got a german keyboard and a german keyboard setting... so all these funnz z occur where they shouldn't be14:46
GreyGeekkaddi:  :-(14:47
esmirlinhello... is there a how to guide like: things to do after installing kubuntu as for the gnome version?14:47
funcrush_Hi all, I installed kubuntu 10.10 on dell latitude e4200 but kubuntu doesn't recognize the mic. could someone help me?14:48
skaftiah powerdevil on 30 min14:48
kaddi_tada :D14:48
skaftiThank you guys14:48
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skaftihehe those simple things14:48
kaddiis it now possible to use both wicd and knetworkmanager side by side?14:49
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skaftiIm trying to set up ubuntu on my laptop kubuntu crashed while upgrading. i get this when i start kubuntu up now " 2.971667 Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-blck (0.0)14:50
yofelskafti: can you try to load an older kernel from grub? (hold shift pressed on bios screen to get the grub menu)14:51
esmirlinhello, is there a "how to" guide like: things to do after installing kubuntu as for the gnome version?14:53
esmirlinit's my first time usin kde and i'm soooooooooo lost :S14:53
* GreyGeek will be gone till 13:0014:54
GreyGeek/AWAY14:54
BluesKajkaddi,  afaik wicd disables knetworkmanager during the install to avoid conflicts14:55
kaddiBluesKaj: Yes until now, everytime I did a KDE upgrade (upgrade to maverick included a switch from kde 4.4 to 4.5) wicd was uninstalled and knetworkmanager was installed14:56
kaddithis time, after the upgrade wicd is still here and running14:56
geekosopheresmirlin: click on that little K icon on the bottom left, there applications > help14:56
skaftibut when i start up with ubuntu disk i get  "(initramf s) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input(output error can not mount /dev/loop0 ( (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs14:57
yofelkaddi: that was because kubuntu-desktop depends on network-manager being installed and before you could only have either wicd or NM installed, not both. That was changed so you can now, but they can't run both at the same time14:57
skaftif***14:57
BluesKajkaddi, yes knetworkmanager becomes the default during upgrades even if wicd was installed14:57
kaddiGreyGeek: running win7 and win xp inside maverick sure is a lot smoother than it was in lucid! :) Definitely speed improvement there14:58
asfyxia@esmirlin, i know one, but unfortunately it is in dutch ;-), most important is that you install kubuntu-restricted-extras14:58
BluesKajyofel, ah good to hear, maybe I can get my wifi working with wicd , because NM certainly doesn't work with my belkin usb wifi adapter14:59
kaddiBluesKaj, yofel that's cool, I'd been hoping for this for a while :)14:59
skaftihow did you say i get the kernel option ?15:05
skaftihold shift on biosscreen ?15:05
kaddiis there a way to move the notifications icon to the right of the system tray or is it fix on left?15:05
skaftisorry im a dope15:05
yofelno you're not, that's a bit tricky to get right :/15:06
skaftithougt it was F5 or something15:08
skaftiescape whis its in startup15:09
skaftigot to kernel recovery mode15:10
kaddihow do I remove themes that I manually installed from kde-look? I would like to use the updated slim glow theme, but I can't get rid of the ancient version I used to use two years ago15:21
GP40MCwhat happens if i delete powerdevil?15:22
slashrootHello, does anybody know the kix for the USB bork on NVidia NForce 8200 chipset?15:27
slashrootfix*15:27
slashrootI'm having issues tracking it down on launchpad, which is unusual15:27
geekosopherslashroot: usb bork? not following you... what is the issue?15:29
skaftiget a different problem when i load an older kernel15:29
slashrootgeekosopher: about 2 minutes into a desktop session the USB bus fails15:30
geekosopherok15:31
slashrootit's an issue that cropped up in 9.1 and hasn't been fixed15:31
geekosopherslashroot: mine never complained, so don't know15:32
slashrootIt's an Acer X3200 and I'd hate to be forced to run windows on it15:33
slashroot:(15:33
BluesKajkaddi, system settings / workspce appearance download new themes and choose one , and in application appearance choose colours which you can download and install as well15:33
kaddiBluesKaj: I did that, but slim glow, which curretnyl is version 2.9, still shows as version 0.6515:34
kaddiand it's present in the list whether i chose install or uninstall15:34
BluesKajkaddi, dunno what you mean , I just choose which looks good and not worry about the version15:35
kaddiyes, but the one I want to choose is one that I had previosuly installed manually from kde-look. I can't get that one to install through the thememanager or update it. It is stuck at the version I installed 2 years ago and not working to well with kde4.515:36
kaddiso I want to remove the manually installed one and get the one that is available through thememanager15:36
BluesKajkaddi, find the path to the original download , then open the file , maybe there's an unstaller.  if not sudo dpkg -r filename might work depending on the file extension15:41
kaddii deleted the folder slim-glow from ~/.kde/share/desktoptheme that seems to have worked15:43
BluesKajkaddi, check out kdeartwork in you package manager15:44
kaddithanks, will do :)15:45
DiogenesWman, how much RAM does a kubuntu need to run smoothly?rok and handle a few JPGs, and amarok topples over every 20 secoinds15:46
kaddii've never had any issues with kubuntu on my old 512Mb RAM laptop15:48
kaddiit could handle videos, amarok, pictures nicely15:48
DiogenesWi got half a gig, too, with a 2,5 GHz processor, so what's wrong with my hardware15:51
kaddihow big are the images you are loading?15:53
kaddiif those are 10Mb images I can imagine that you get problems15:53
DiogenesWmom15:53
DiogenesWlargesst is 1,8 MB15:54
DiogenesWsmallest 17 KB15:54
kaddithat should not be in issue than I think15:55
DiogenesWall in all roundabout 13 MB15:56
kaddihmm, no idea15:56
kaddihave you checked that your RAM still works?15:56
kaddiminimum requirement is 512MB and 1GHz Processor and a graphic card capable VGA @ 640x480 15:59
BluesKajDiogenesW, check whateating your cpu or ram in system monitor15:59
BluesKajwhat's eating15:59
DiogenesWi got nicotine running ... eats a few percent16:00
DiogenesWof the cpu16:00
DiogenesWplasma uses nearly 10 percent16:01
DiogenesWmaybe i should switch off the slideshow on the background :)16:01
DiogenesWthat was it, probably, plasma-desktop is now using almost nothing16:03
DiogenesWbewtter, but not good16:06
DiogenesW*sigh*16:08
kaddidisable desktop effects will usually help16:09
DiogenesWi have switched off windows effects already16:11
DiogenesWi find them unnecessary16:11
rats_when I run chkrootkit I get this output Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while... The following suspicious files and directories were found:16:12
rats_/usr/lib/jvm/.java-6-sun.jinfo /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.22/.systemPrefs /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/.path /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/.noinit /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.12/.autoreg16:12
DiogenesWkaddi who can i check my ram?16:12
rats_is this a problem16:12
SporkWitchanyone recommend a good FOSS file recovery tool that can also work with NTFS partitions?  not having much luck on google (all the NTFS ones I find only run from windows itself)16:13
DiogenesWnext problem, which is very very annoying: inkscape crashes as soon i open the document properties dialogue, that is, i *try* to open it16:15
speedvinDiogenesW: open it from console and show error16:18
speedvinDiogenesW: or better post it at pastebin and show us link to it16:18
DiogenesWit's just one line:16:20
DiogenesWterminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gtk::IconThemeError'16:20
SporkWitchanyone able to recommend a good, free file recovery tool that will run in linux and is able to work on NTFS partitions?16:22
MachtinHey guys, i'm looking for an global equalizer.. any hints?16:22
skaftihow do i manually clean out trash16:25
skafti?16:25
skaftii know silly questin, but im just a  little silly so im bound to be forgiven16:25
BluesKajskafti, no trash icon anywhere?16:30
rats_BluesKaj: there is a widget for trash16:32
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BluesKajyes rats_ , I was about to get to the install from widgets part , but I'm waiting to se if one already exists16:35
BluesKajmaybe on the desktop16:35
kaddiuhm BluesKaj, this is probably a very stupid question, but now that i have installed kdeartwork, how do I get to the additional themes? Are they available when I click on nwe themes?16:37
BluesKajkaddi, dunno , I'm stumped too ...I did the same and installed it but there seem to be more themes in workspace appearance , but that's all I've found so far16:40
kaddiah yes, heron, elegance, blend are new16:41
kaddilol, i kinda was expecting more though, tbh :p16:41
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BluesKajkaddi, perhaps a reboot ? not sure :/16:43
kaddii think it installed aurorae?16:45
BluesKajgona reboot , brb16:47
SporkWitchanyone tried installing kubuntu on one of the macbooks with intel processors?16:47
kaddibut reboot is always such a hastle :p16:48
kaddihassle16:48
kaddinot me16:48
kaddiBluesKaj any change?16:50
BluesKajbone that I can see kaddi ...I'm wondering where all those supporting apps went and what do they do ?16:56
BluesKajerr none16:56
mcNisseIm trying to install natty from the nigthly builds in virtualbox. Its fails because the installer cannot find QWidget.16:57
mcNisseWhere can I file a bug?16:57
BluesKaj!launchpad16:57
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/16:57
mcNisseI know, but I dont know the correct project16:58
kaddiBluesKaj, yeah.. I see about 3-4 additional installed themes, including slim glow. There's not all that much changed.16:58
kaddibut i think aurorae is new.. (then again i upgraded to maverick today, so it's hard to say who is to blame :p )17:00
kaddibbl17:01
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adriansHas anybody been able to get the network manager to display a DSL connection?17:19
murchadhHi all! When I start kubuntu I have to run plasma-desktop manually. How is it started usually? And sometimes the desktops, I have it set to four, get moved slightly off centre. Anyone have this problem?17:22
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Snowhogmurchadh: What version of Kubuntu? What version of KDE? Laptop, Netbook, Desktop PC?17:27
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Snowhogwqapol: Your DNS changes still working for you?17:39
murchadhSnowhog: Kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.42, Netbook (Acer aspire 1 531h). Running well but for some minor niggles.17:41
Snowhogmurchadh: KDE 4.4.2? On 10.10, the default KDE is 4.5.x. Are you sure you are running KDE 4.4.2?17:42
murchadhSnowhog: Help says 4.4.2. Anywhere else I could check?17:43
murchadhSnowhog: May be using a ubuntu upgraded from 10.04. Kernel 2.6.32-26-generic.17:46
Snowhogmurchadh: Is this a new installation of 10.10, or an upgrade from version ??17:46
murchadhSnowhog: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l (cat /etc/issue) is what I'm running, sorry.17:48
Nemco#kubuntu-es17:56
Nemco#ubuntu-es17:56
Snowhogmurchadh: You might want to give serious consideration to upgrading to KDE 4.5.3. It was released for Kubuntu 10.04 four days ago. See http://www.kubuntu.org/news17:58
Snowhog!#ubuntu-es17:59
SnowhogNemco: Espanya?18:03
NemcoSnowhog: ah?18:03
NemcoSnowhog: que es eso?18:03
SnowhogSnowhog: English.18:04
NemcoSnowhog: que si soy de españa?18:04
NemcoSnowhog: no18:04
Snowhog!spain18:04
Pici!es18:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.18:05
Pici3018:05
Picioops18:05
SnowhogPici: Thanks. New it was in there.18:05
Pici!spain is <alias> es18:05
ubottuI'll remember that, Pici18:05
SnowhogGreyGeek: Morning18:06
GreyGeekSnowhog:  Deja Vu?   Good afternoon!18:07
SnowhogGreyGeek: West greats East. :) 10 degrees this morning.18:07
GreyGeek49F here, but freezing rain coming tomorrow :-(18:08
SnowhogGreyGeek: Snowed last night. Maybe two inches or less here at the house.18:09
* Tm_T kindly reminding that we have #kubuntu-offtopic too18:09
SnowhogTm_T: Noted. Thanks.18:10
GreyGeekSnowhog: goto go...  was given an external HD to recover data from before the owner returns to college this evening.18:10
shedGreyGeek -38 degrees outside, lucky you18:23
murchadhSnowhog: Didn't realise I was set to LTS. Upgrading now. Thanks for your help!18:41
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electroweakhi guys I just installed Kubuntu on a dell inspiron 1525 I am suffering very high system load any ideas18:56
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moetunescheck what's using the resources in konsole using   top18:57
electroweaknepomukservices is sucking all the resources do I really need thtat18:57
moetunesnope18:58
moetunes!info nepomuk18:58
ubottuPackage nepomuk does not exist in maverick18:58
moetunes!find nepomuk18:58
ubottuFound: libnepomuk2.2-cil, libsmokenepomuk3, virtuoso-nepomuk, libsmokenepomukquery3, libnepomuk418:58
electroweak!find nepomuk event not found18:59
ubottuevent is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable18:59
electroweakwhat should I do about that nepomuk19:01
moetunesit is actually strigi that is doing the work - once the index is built cpu use should calm down19:06
moetunes!info strigi19:06
ubottuPackage strigi does not exist in maverick19:06
electroweakwhat happens if I stop the process19:07
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eagles0513875hey guys how come when runnign the netbook style version of kde on a netbook its a million times slower then the normal kde that you would find on a desktop19:16
nascentmindHi. When I set my fonts to Anti Aliasing it doesn't seem to apply. How can I fix this?19:22
vegbergHey19:27
vegbergBye19:27
nascentmindanybody?19:27
simonOhi, I just lost access to the "desktop settings", because I changed the right mouse button action to application launcher. is there another way to access the desktop settings?19:27
SnowhogsimonO: Try the default Alt+D,S19:30
simonOSnowhog, tnx, I think I saw alt-D,S when I first accessed it, but I never interpreted it as a sequence (though , is the sequence operator ;)19:31
simonOit surprised me that just alt-D didn't do anything...19:32
SnowhogsimonO: Yes, you have to press Alt+D followed by S for it to work.19:32
simonOhold on, I get folder view settings, not desktop settings...19:34
simonOdoes it matter where I press alt-D and then s19:34
SnowhogsimonO: No. Did you have Folder View as the Activity option?19:35
simonOSnowhog, sorry about that, my X-server detected a hung i915 chip (or something)19:39
SnowhogsimonO: You need to have the Desktop showing - minimize any open apps - then Alt+D,S19:39
simonOthen I get nothing19:40
SnowhogsimonO: You said you got Folder View.19:41
simonOI did19:41
SnowhogsimonO: And now?19:41
simonOnothing19:41
simonObut I removed the desktop folder on the desktop19:42
SnowhogsimonO: You aren't pressing the ',' after pressing Alt+D and the S key are you?19:42
simonOno ;-)19:42
SnowhogsimonO: Had to ask. :)19:42
simonOnp19:43
simonOwhen I re-install the folder view plasmoid on the desktop, I get folder view settings again with alt-d,s19:45
simonOI don't have a cashew in the top right corner, is that normal?19:46
simonOah, now I've got it, right clicking on the folder view plasmoid gave me a menu where the desktop settings are as well19:47
simonOit says: alt-d,alt-s, so maybe that will actually work as well19:48
simonOindeed it does...19:48
simonObut I'd consider this a usability bug, that it's so easy to lose access to this settings window...19:49
DiogenesWgute nacht20:05
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v3nd3tta``hey i know my graphics card and my monitor support both 60 hz, why can i select in my Screen Settings only 50 and 51 hz settings?20:36
eagles0513875v3nd3tta``: hey20:37
eagles0513875:)20:37
eagles0513875how goes it20:37
v3nd3tta``hey eagles0513875 :) let that ot discussion go to ot chan :)20:37
eagles0513875oh ahhah whoops20:38
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berndtag leute20:40
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berndkann hir einer deutsch20:41
v3nd3tta``!de | bernd20:41
ubottubernd: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.20:41
v3nd3tta``aber ja :)20:41
berndgut danke für den hin weiss20:42
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elijah "cannot get exclusive lock on the packaging backend" ... "W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/stable/Release Unable to find expected entry non-free/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)".... "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." ======= I unchecked the google repositories in kpackagekit but still same error when check for updates... I am tr20:53
eagles0513875elijah: sounds like you dont have an internet connection20:53
kaddiever since I upgraded my kopete no longer shows in the system tray20:54
kaddithat means when I close it, it's gone and I can't bring it back20:54
elijaheagles0513875: Lol, well, that one is ruled out ;)20:54
* eagles0513875 waves to kaddi long time no c20:54
kaddihow do I get kopete to show in system tray again for maverick?20:54
* kaddi waves back :)20:54
kaddihow are you?20:54
eagles0513875kaddi: nb nb enjoying my netbook finally got it the way i wanted20:55
eagles0513875the netbook desktop is a totally and utter mess in the sense plasma is resource hungry20:55
eagles0513875normal kde desktop is super zippy20:55
kaddihehe, nice20:55
eagles0513875anywho i need to see if i can find dinner or sis and her bf r still watching a movie20:55
eagles0513875kaddi: hop in offtopic sometime im always in there and we can have a chat20:56
kaddidone :p20:56
elijaheagles0513875: Fixed, it by unchecking all google repositories20:57
eagles0513875odd it could be those repos r broken20:57
Snowhogkaddi: Have you check that Kopete's menu entry has Place in system ray checked?21:14
Snowhog*tray21:15
kaddino, i just did an upgrade so i expected the same settings to remain in place. will do so now21:15
kaddithat was an easy fix :p21:17
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msibelleHi! I have a problem with the network management: I can manually "ifconfig eth0 .... && route add default ..." to have a network connection, but I don't know why it is not working "normally" when I startup........21:57
msibelleand I can not use my Wifi card, while I used to be able to use it before the last update of my Kubuntu. Any one could help me find how to simply configure my eth0 card at startup?21:58
msibelleAnd maybe then, we could findout what happened with my wifi card :/21:58
msibelleFirst, I would like to know what I have to do to have a eth0 connection up at startup... anyone can tell me that?22:00
moetunesalot of ppl install wicd - it seems to work better22:01
moetunes!info wicd22:01
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.0+ds1-5 (maverick), package size 40 kB, installed size 88 kB22:01
msibelleOk, but is there a "normal" not optionnal :) tool? I mean, the Ubuntu/Kubuntu native one...22:01
msibelle(but thanks for wicd anyway)22:01
msibelleI have installed wicd, I reboot.22:03
msibelleOk :) at last I have an eth0 automatically...22:06
msibellesorry, but I am sad to discover that Ubuntu network management is so complicated :/22:07
msibelleIt used to work, it no longer works after an update :/22:07
msibelleNow, can anyone help me find out why I can no longer use my Wifi card?22:09
msibelleI do not really know why it used to work, so I do not know why it no longer works :/22:09
moetunesmight help if you tell what sort of wifi card it is22:13
moetunes!wifi22:13
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:13
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msibellePlease, anyone could help me find out why I can not connect to an unsecured WiFi access point (neither to a WPA secured)?22:24
msibelleIt does not manage to get an IP...22:24
msibelle(it is working on Windows)22:24
msibelle?22:25
v3nd3tta``!wifi | msibelle22:26
ubottumsibelle: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:26
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msibellev3nd3tta: ??? as I said, it used to work fine BEFORE I made the updates 2 months ago... so I think it may be not a problem of "how to". But I am reading the doc right now.22:28
msibellehttp://pastebin.com/9tyaD3jh any idea why I can not access an unsecured WiFi access point?22:42
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russia_bearasssss22:45
Snowhogmsibelle: Do you now, have both KNetworkmanager and Wicd installed?22:45
msibelleI don't precisly understand your question Snowhog, but I have KNetworkManager because I used to use it, and now I also have Wicd because someone here told me to install it as it seems to be "better" (and it solve my first problem which was "Why have I no eth0 connection on startup?")22:47
msibelleI don't mind uninstalling KNetworManager, do you think I should?22:48
Snowhogmsibelle: When Wicd is installed as well as KNetworkmanger, there are 'issues'. Just a sec and I'll give you a link to what works for many to fix this.22:48
msibelleoki22:48
Walzmy_how come my taskbar does not normally show applications on a differnt desktop, but it does with GIMP22:51
derek_hello all22:52
msibelleHello :22:53
msibelle:)22:53
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derek_hello misibelle22:56
Snowhogmsibelle: See http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110183.0 and scroll down to Wicd, Knetworkmanager, netapplet, knm-runtime, etc... This ensures that all pieces of KNetworkmanager are removed and all required pieces of Wicd are installed. Make sure that you have all the Wicd pieces first. Of course, if you don't want Wicd, don't do this.22:57
Snowhogmsibelle: And if you do want to use KNetworkmanager instead of Wicd, then see http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3114008.023:01
msibelleSnowhog: I don't mind using wicd or KNetworkManager :) all I want is not having NO network connection on startup after a Ubuntu update ;)23:02
msibellethank you for your time, I read.23:02
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ginbuntuhi23:47
ginbuntuwhen is kde 4.5.80 going to be available?23:47
Snowhogginbuntu: The pat answer is 'soon.' It's still being validated for Natty. When that's satisfied, it'll be backported (beta) for Maverick.23:52
ginbuntuSnowhog, will it be available next week?23:52
Snowhogginbuntu: Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball. :)23:53
Snowhogginbuntu: See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging and read down to Maverick23:54

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