[00:03] gute nacht [00:04] claydoh: I uninstalled, purged and made sure I got all the right packages from the repo but the issue remains [00:04] oh well [00:04] did you uninstall all packages (2 of them) [00:04] yes [00:05] I think it needs different python packages or soemthing [00:05] harolddong: dunno as it is working for me in 10.10, you may need to contact the backintime folks maybe? they run that ppa [00:17] moetunes: Why I have those errors while updating ? Nad how to fix them ? http://wklej.org/id/427350/ [00:19] naviretlav: seems you can't connect to launchpad for some reason [00:19] try pinging it [00:20] ping -c 3 ppa.launchpad.net [00:26] moetunes: PING ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.90.217) 56(84) bytes of data. [00:26] --- ppa.launchpad.net ping statistics --- [00:26] 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2001ms [00:26] naviretlav: I can ping it so check your network [00:26] moetunes: I'm using wi-fi [00:27] moetunes: but everything works fine [00:27] moetunes: I don't have any ide why this stoped to work [00:27] naviretlav: it doesn't seem like it is [00:27] moetunes: where I should look ? [00:27] moetunes: and yesterday everything was ok [00:28] 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2031ms - for me pinging launchpad [00:28] naviretlav: can you ping google? [00:29] moetunes: --- google.pl ping statistics --- [00:29] 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms [00:29] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 80.467/81.736/82.462/0.900 ms [00:29] naviretlav: no idea why you can't ping launchpad then [00:31] moetunes: but synaptic works fine [00:32] moetunes: only update manager is freesing [00:32] naviretlav: it does seem strange [00:32] moetunes: I even disabled all repos [00:32] naviretlav: comment the ppa's for now [00:34] naviretlav: how are you starting update-manager? [00:35] moetunes: from menu -> programs -> setings -> update manager [00:36] naviretlav: try starting it from konsole to look for errors [00:37] naviretlav@Navi-PC:~$ sudo update-manager [00:37] Traceback (most recent call last): [00:37] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/backend/InstallBackendSynaptic.py", line 37, in _on_synaptic_exit [00:37] self.emit("action-done", action) [00:37] TypeError: 2 parameters needed for signal action-done; 1 given [00:37] naviretlav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:39] naviretlav: is synaptic open? [00:39] moetunes: now .. no [00:39] it was before? [00:40] moetunes: yes , but not at the start of the os ... and I tried to kill synaptic from console, and it's closed === wgrant_ is now known as wgrnat [00:41] naviretlav: so with no synaptic open how does update-manager go? - you should have a switch with it afaik [00:42] something like -d [00:45] moetunes: stil the same problem [00:45] moetunes: maybe I should uninstal synaptic ? === wgrnat is now known as wgrant [00:46] naviretlav: worth a shot - you'll still have kpackagekit [00:49] moetunes: lol , with synaptic , I also lost update-manager [00:49] heh [00:51] moetunes: still the same error === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:52] naviretlav: does sudo apt-get update work? [00:53] moetunes: yes [00:53] moetunes: but I removed all repos [00:54] naviretlav: add the repos back and try again === SuperHark is now known as MichealH [00:54] moetunes: I need only http://ppa.launchpad.net/maverick-bleed/ppa/ubuntu ?? [00:55] naviretlav: not if you can't ping it === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === someone is now known as Guest89849 === don is now known as Guest21853 === chris is now known as Guest4947 [01:57] pagi all [01:57] salam dari kubuntu indonesia [01:58] !indonesia [01:58] join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [01:58] pandu32: ^^ [01:58] OK [01:58] sorry [01:58] :) [01:58] np :) [02:16] Does anyone know why when, using Twinview, windows maximize under my panel? [02:28] I am in Kubuntu 10.04. knetworkmanager doesn't open. I also tried in terminal, doesnt open/output anything. What might be wrong? [02:31] don't even show an error? [02:31] wqapol: does ps aux | grep -i net return anything [02:31] GabrielYYZ: No [02:32] moetunes: Yes http://pastebin.com/eQVyVnw2 [02:33] wqapol: that says knetworkmanager is already running [02:33] moetunes: But I dont see the window [02:34] wqapol: you could try killall -v knetworkmanager && knetworkmanager [02:36] wqapol: Isn't the networkmanager icon in your system tray? [02:37] Snowhog: No, BUT just sec will pastebin what moetunes told [02:38] moetunes: have a look at this http://pastebin.com/Xj5Vv0Jy [02:39] hello, I just installed an nvidia 220 card and when I started the computer, I an booted directly into the shell with no gui. anyone out there know what I should do? I am running Kubuntu 9.04 [02:39] wqapol: that doesn't look too good - i guess a window didn't open? [02:40] moetunes: I even tried restarting, knetwork manager is the only window that doesnt open [02:41] wqapol: is this a default install? - is this a new error? [02:41] moetunes: Well, actually I have another issue which I am trying to solve through that network manager,... My dns set in resolv.conf resets everytime i rebot. what might be the exact problem? [02:42] moetunes: default install of kubuntu 10.04 two days agao [02:42] moetunes: was never able to open network manager since i installed the os [02:43] wqapol: did you do the cd check before installing? [02:43] errors in that can give unpredictable issues [02:43] moetunes: No I did not. [02:43] wqapol: I would do the check on that now [02:44] to know if you started from a solid base [02:44] moetunes: great I will do that right now. thanks for all the help [02:44] np :) [02:44] wqapol: check this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=758920 and check "anti-destin" post [02:45] I'm sure he got some corrupted files installed from a bad cd burn [02:45] it sure looks that way [02:46] GabrielYYZ: /etc/rc.d/networkmanager stop --> bash: /etc/rc.d/networkmanager: No such file or directory [02:47] archlinux does things different to ubuntu oses [02:47] well, then i guess i'll have to agree with moetunes and corrupted files [02:48] well am on it. just popped in th dvd. Do i have to restart? [02:48] yep [02:49] moetunes: well this is the only Pc right now. need to shut down then. will report back later thanks again [02:49] np :) [02:51] it looks like that's a 10.04 bug though: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110915.0 a guy there had the same problem in april of this year [02:55] moetunes: GabrielYYZ: Network manager issue: cd check done "Check finished: No errors found" [02:56] I guess I can handle the network manager issue later, but my actual problem is dns resetting after reboot [02:56] wqapol: well check the link GabrielYYZ posted - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110915.0 [02:57] http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/25/8 [02:58] werwolfanet: pls don't post links without an explanation of what they are [02:58] it looks like spam [02:58] my memory fails but i think you edit /etc/resolv.conf with your dns and then sudo chmod 000 it [02:58] I have never had to do that [02:59] edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and include your preferred DHS server on the "prepend" line [02:59] i did it when i was using ubuntu lucid [02:59] ok. I'm interessted anybody try this on ubuntu 10.10? http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/25/8 [02:59] ahh yeah @ relley. that's it [03:02] read befor you try this! it's important if you open ssh access for non root users [03:05] wqapol: you cool? [03:05] moetunes: GabrielYYZ: from that post: wicpd warns about authetication of some packages. should i go ahead? [03:06] relley: yes testing out the resolv.conf suggestions now [03:06] wqapol: it should be fine [03:06] I want to make an envrypted folder, what should I use in KDE? [03:06] Westyvw: Truecrypt works well for me [03:07] is it available in the repos? [03:07] oh i see easycrypt [03:08] Ok I can do that, I used to do it all manually using fuse and encryptfs but knew it must be easier nowdays. [03:08] It's all easier than the old days... :) [03:09] so it uses truecrypt from the .org site eh? [03:10] talking about easycrypt? or Truecrypt? [03:11] easycrypt wants truecrypt, launches web page [03:11] relley: ok i edited both your s and GabrielYYZ's edit. Just to know which file takes precedence, resolv.conf or dhclient.conf? [03:12] yeah, looks like easycrypt is a GUI for Truecrypt. So, yes you will need truecrypt for it [03:14] tho truecrypt is a pretty straitforward program... shouldn't need easycrypt. Your choice though [03:15] wqapol: not understanding last statement [03:16] relley: I mean during boot up which DNS are used, the one specified in resolv.conf or dhcpclient.conf? === laptop is now known as Guest87140 [03:21] seems that dhcpclient.conf would be the best bet [03:21] not 100% on that [03:22] relley: Hmm ok restarting now to test if everythings perfect, I really need Open dns since my ISP's dns are very slow. [03:23] okey [03:23] moetunes: installed wicd , even this one when entered in terminal --> sudo wicd outputs nothing. [03:24] wicd and knetworkmanager don't work well together in 10.10 [03:24] as in, won't work at all [03:25] valorie: oh so any other alternatives, btw am on 10.04. [03:25] valorie: oh they dont work together, well i will remove knetwork manger then [03:26] * wqapol restarts the pc while not being able to access IRC [03:26] I had them both in 10.04 with no problems [03:26] I don't know what the diff is [03:35] valorie: yes after restart wicd works even though knetworkmanager (still unistalled) doesnt open. thanks [03:38] oh, good [03:38] How do I check if the DNS I set are indeed being used now? Set Google Open DNS. [03:38] I had problems with networkmgr in 10.04 [03:38] thus the wicd [03:39] no problems in 10.10, except when I upgraded, and wicd was still there [03:40] valorie: hmm wish i could upgrade. bu 10.10 doeesnt work withnvidia drivers for me. [03:40] wqapol: do you have a router? [03:40] moetunes: yes [03:41] set that as the nameserver [03:41] moetunes: you mean 192.168.1.1? [03:41] yep [03:41] that's one of the jobs routers were built for [03:42] moetunes: but then that would be using my ISP's dns, and thats what I want to avoid, the slow ISP's DNS [03:42] wqapol: Access the routers configuration and change the DNS entries to what you want to use. [03:45] Snowhog: I have a doubt. I first set my own dns in routers settings, but that did not reflect in my OS So now I set that in dhcpclient.conf. Now I want to test if its being used, how can i do that? [03:54] maybe unplug router and test dns locally === Izinucs_ is now known as Scunizi [03:59] wqapol: /etc/resolv.conf should contain a single line containing: nameserver IP (where IP is the IP address to your router). The router is configured with the DNS entries you want to use. [04:01] Snowhog: Thanks, that cleared my doubts perfectly. [04:02] Snowhog: relley: http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/aboutyou.ch seems to tell the dns we are using, Does it work for you as expected? [04:05] For me it shows 209.85.174.82 as the dns used which belongs to google. So that clarifies the change works. [04:06] * wqapol bows to everyone on this channel for their kind support. [06:30] I've downloaded the latest [10.10] 32-bit ISO. How do I upgrade my VM from 10.04 to 10.10, using the iso as the repository? [06:34] afaik you can only do that with the alternate cd but check this out [06:34] !upgrade [06:34] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade === alexs is now known as Guest23951 [06:55] does anybody know anything about if and when the 4.6 beta will be available? [06:56] it's still being worked on so soon is the best answer [07:23] hey guys i got some questions relating to maverick and having kubuntu setup on a netbook [07:23] firstly why on earth to start up [07:23] after using the net install via usb do i need to use the usb to boot off my hdd? [07:24] you shouldn't [07:24] did you try restarting after the net install was done? [07:24] valorie: i know but it seems like i do otherwise nothing boots [07:24] yes [07:24] and nothign booted [07:24] checked bios settings reset to default [07:24] still same issue nothing boots [07:24] when i put in the usb i choose usb then it boots to my hdd [07:25] did you verify the files on your USB? [07:25] yes [07:25] i used unetbootin to create the bootable usb [07:25] you put the bootloader on the usb it seems [07:25] when i went through the installer [07:25] oh, I did that once [07:25] sucked [07:25] it asked me to put the grub on the MBR [07:25] but I did fix it [07:25] why the heck would it do that if [07:25] i specified the hdd and not the usb [07:25] to install on [07:26] you made a wrong choice somewhere in the setup [07:26] valorie: how can i fix it [07:26] happens [07:26] sec [07:26] ok [07:26] also another question [07:26] i go into settings and i disable my track pad yet it still steagles0513875: ays enabled [07:26] stays* [07:26] http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/10/grub2-and-chroots-dammit.html [07:27] wtf [07:27] read through that and see if any of it applies [07:27] why doesnt kubuntu know to use my browser [07:27] ffs bstop asking me to choose a program [07:27] I wasn't the only one making the error..... [07:28] ha [07:28] found something interesting [07:28] valorie: [07:28] quick fix [07:28] eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:29] silly floodbot [07:29] upon apt-cache policy of grub2 its showing not installed so a simple apt-get install grub2 should fix the problem [07:29] cool [07:29] you didn't make as serious an error as I did, then [07:29] :-) [07:29] 2nd question [07:29] i disable my trackpad yet it still keeps on tracking [07:30] by disable it, what do you mean? [07:30] the keyboard switch? [07:30] turn it off [07:30] you know how some laptops have a button to turn it off so if you hit it the mouse wont move or anything [07:30] right [07:30] i do that [07:30] via setting yet its not disabled [07:30] sounds like that button isn't correctly mapped [07:31] ugh [07:31] :-/ [07:31] I remapped something eons ago [07:31] it makes it a royal pain to type sometimes on here [07:31] It can be done [07:31] it's just fiddly [07:31] iirc, there is a howto on ubuntu forums about it... looking for it [07:32] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting [07:32] is one [07:33] ok [07:33] looks like it's gotten a bit easier [07:33] eagles0513875: have a look at this, may be not exactly relating to your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1629433 [07:33] ugh, that's a bit old [07:33] I would look for something newer [07:34] the thing is the disabling of a touchpad exists in system settings [07:34] its jst not toggling the trackpad off [07:34] brb going to test my grub fix [07:34] lordy [07:34] valorie: hi [07:35] hi geekosopher [07:35] a nice way to disable the touchpad while typing - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing [07:35] bah im on frmo my mac [07:35] still not working [07:35] will try run grub update [07:37] valorie: ^ [07:37] good luck! [07:37] thanks [07:37] rebooting again [07:38] ffs :( [07:38] nothing [07:38] it makes no sense why would it put grub on the mbr of the usb and not the hdd [07:38] sadly, it does what you tell it to do, rather than what you want it to do [07:41] eagles0513875: if I understand correctly, its only the grub that is getting installed on the usb right? rest of the system is on the hdd? [07:41] geekosopher: correct [07:41] i installed grub 2 via commandline ran grub2-update [07:41] or what ever that command is and still nothing [07:42] eagles0513875: then once you boot, remove the usb, and then try installing grub again [07:42] tried that [07:42] once i boot i remove the usb [07:42] then what happens? [07:42] and then exactly what happens? [07:43] !grub2 | this tells how to fix it eagles0513875 [07:43] this tells how to fix it eagles0513875: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [07:43] thanks ill have to take a look at that later [07:44] geekosopher: and valorie once i remove usb [07:44] im on the system as normal using the hdd [07:45] eagles0513875: and then, did you install grub? does it give any errors? [07:46] geekosopher: i have it installee [07:46] at first i didnt [07:46] then i installed it last go round [07:46] it seems like it still wants the usb [07:46] could it be i used the net installation of kubuntu [07:46] what do you mean, "seems like it still wants the USB?" [07:47] i get a blank black screen with a lil flashing cursor [07:47] cant do anything with it [07:48] nothing loads unless i use the usb [07:48] ok, that's the console [07:48] eagles0513875: what is the output of the terminal when you install grub (after removing the usb) [07:49] geekosopher: nothing out of the ordinary [07:51] * geekosopher thinks 'ordinary' is subjective [07:51] indeed [07:53] no errors no nothing just normal out put you get with apt-get install [07:54] has anyone managed to get bluetooth headset working with bluedevil on kubuntu 10.10? [07:55] hello, i'm an ubuntu user (GNOME desktop) and i just installed kde 4.5.3 using the kubuntu-backports PPA (upgraded from lucid non-PPA 4.3.x). But now, instead of KDE apps using the Skulpture widget style as I've specified in systemsettings, they are using my GTK theme...they are trying to blend into my GNOME desktop. How do I make KDE apps use their own Skulpture style? [07:55] eagles0513875: what about maybe doing apt-get update [07:55] and then upgrade [07:55] Previously, KDE apps used the Skulpture style even when run inside a GNOME desktop session. [07:55] maybe you are missing some bits somewhere [07:55] valorie: did that and also ran dist-upgrade to install any updates [07:56] and there were none [07:56] and yet, no desktop? [07:56] i have a desktop [07:56] if i use the usb [07:56] question [07:56] when i raun update- and tabbed twice [07:56] hmmm, that sounds like it isn't going online to get updates' [07:56] why is therean option to run update-grub and update-grub2 [07:56] but getting them from the USB [07:56] valorie: im alreayd up todate [07:57] i updated yesterday and the net install pulled all the latest maverick items [07:57] I would put that USB away where you computer doesn't know about it [07:57] lol [07:57] TRYING [07:57] sry bout that [07:57] ran update-grub this time now we see if it loads [07:57] ffs [07:57] blessed net install [07:58] sigh :( [07:58] guess ill have to download the iso [07:59] and redo the installation [07:59] what do you guys think [07:59] sadly, I ended up doing that, for an entirely other reason [08:00] you guys have any ideas [08:00] but it went well [08:00] and this time I used a CD [08:00] would the grub configuration be pointing at the wrong thing in regards to booting now that i have grub2 installed should i point it away from teh usb somehow [08:00] not sure if that made a difference [08:00] valorie: :p easier said then done on a netbook [08:00] yeah [08:01] yes, you def. should [08:01] any other things to try [08:01] use that escape key as reboot is happening [08:01] and make sure the HD is at the top of the list [08:02] the HD is at the top of the list [08:02] if i click on it it goes to black screen with flashing cursor [08:03] which is one of your consoles [08:03] no [08:03] its not [08:04] cant type on it cant login cant do anything [08:04] oh, ugh [08:05] this is an asus eeepc 1001px [08:05] wiht an intel gma 3150 [08:06] and you are putting 10.10 on it, right? [08:07] eagles0513875: can you give the output of sudo blkid [08:07] and of 'df' [08:09] eagles0513875: if the list is long you can use !pastebin [08:09] !pastebin | eagles0513875 [08:09] eagles0513875: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:10] i know [08:10] im on from a different computer and i have to jump back and forth between the two [08:10] eagles0513875: sure, I didn't know that you knew ;) [08:10] sympathies, I've been there [08:11] hehe geekosopher its ok m8 [08:11] i have been around since edgy so i know well and true about pastebin [08:11] http://pastebin.com/1bcgKKpj [08:11] i think i see the problem [08:11] possibly [08:12] wtf is /dev/shm? [08:13] eagles0513875: i wouldn't worry about that; and what is it on your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? [08:14] http://pastbein.com/zNc4cZK4 <----thats the grub.cfg geekosopher [08:15] /dev/shm is nothing but implementation of traditional shared memory concept. It is an efficient means of passing data between programs [08:16] moetunes: ok [08:16] eagles0513875: that link is not working for me [08:16] pastebin is misspelled [08:16] geekosopher: correct the spelling of pastebin [08:16] lol [08:16] sry [08:16] http://pastebin.com/zNc4cZK4 [08:17] hehe, i got it [08:17] sry bout that [08:17] used pastebinit to paste directly to pastebin [08:17] and copied link from cli on netbook to irc by hand on laptop [08:19] can't see anything wrong there, [08:20] need to go for something urgent... brb === fredl is now known as grma [08:29] :( sigh [08:48] valorie: no idea as to my issue :( [08:48] eagles0513875: sorry for holding you up, any progress? [08:48] no [08:48] i have to finish up something for church :( [08:48] not beyond my blog post [08:48] so its on hold on my part atm [08:49] I did some googling, but haven't found much of use [08:50] what was the result with grub2 installed to the hdd and the usb not connected at boot time? [08:53] moetunes: it seems like grub 2 was installed to the usb somehow and not to the hdd [08:53] and the usb was connected cuz i was installing it on a netbook [08:53] i installed grub2 via apt-get and its still not booting with out the usb [08:54] I know that, I thought you installed grub2 to the hdd after we found that out [08:54] k [08:54] i used the netinstaller [08:54] not sure if thats buggy for maverick or what [08:54] eagles0513875: is the app grub-setup installed there? [08:55] ? [08:55] installed where [08:55] on your kubuntu install [08:55] h/o [08:56] in konsole type grub and hit the tab key twice to check [08:56] its there [08:56] try sudo grub-setup /dev/sda [08:57] and leave the usb out of the comp [08:57] !!! [08:57]