[00:03] <DiogenesW> gute nacht
[00:04] <harolddong> claydoh:  I uninstalled, purged and made sure I got all the right packages from the repo but the issue remains
[00:04] <harolddong> oh well
[00:04] <claydoh> did  you uninstall all packages (2 of them)
[00:04] <harolddong> yes
[00:05] <harolddong> I think it needs different python packages or soemthing
[00:05] <claydoh> harolddong: dunno as it is working for me in 10.10, you may need to contact the backintime folks maybe?  they run that ppa
[00:17] <naviretlav> moetunes: Why I have those errors while updating ? Nad how to fix them ? http://wklej.org/id/427350/
[00:19] <moetunes> naviretlav:  seems you can't connect to launchpad for some reason
[00:19] <moetunes> try pinging it
[00:20] <moetunes> ping -c 3 ppa.launchpad.net
[00:26] <naviretlav> moetunes: PING ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.90.217) 56(84) bytes of data.
[00:26] <naviretlav> --- ppa.launchpad.net ping statistics ---
[00:26] <naviretlav> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2001ms
[00:26] <moetunes> naviretlav:  I can ping it so check your network
[00:26] <naviretlav> moetunes: I'm using wi-fi
[00:27] <naviretlav> moetunes: but everything works fine
[00:27] <naviretlav> moetunes: I don't have any ide why this stoped to work
[00:27] <moetunes> naviretlav:  it doesn't seem like it is
[00:27] <naviretlav> moetunes: where I should look ?
[00:27] <naviretlav> moetunes: and yesterday everything was ok
[00:28] <moetunes> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2031ms - for me pinging launchpad
[00:28] <moetunes> naviretlav:  can you ping google?
[00:29] <naviretlav> moetunes: --- google.pl ping statistics ---
[00:29] <naviretlav> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
[00:29] <naviretlav> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 80.467/81.736/82.462/0.900 ms
[00:29] <moetunes> naviretlav:  no idea why you can't ping launchpad then
[00:31] <naviretlav> moetunes: but synaptic works fine
[00:32] <naviretlav> moetunes: only update manager is freesing
[00:32] <moetunes> naviretlav:  it does seem strange
[00:32] <naviretlav> moetunes: I even disabled all repos
[00:32] <moetunes> naviretlav:  comment the ppa's for now
[00:34] <moetunes> naviretlav:  how are you starting update-manager?
[00:35] <naviretlav> moetunes: from menu -> programs -> setings -> update manager
[00:36] <moetunes> naviretlav:  try starting it from konsole to look for errors
[00:37] <naviretlav> naviretlav@Navi-PC:~$ sudo update-manager
[00:37] <naviretlav> Traceback (most recent call last):
[00:37] <naviretlav>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/backend/InstallBackendSynaptic.py", line 37, in _on_synaptic_exit
[00:37] <naviretlav>     self.emit("action-done", action)
[00:37] <naviretlav> TypeError: 2 parameters needed for signal action-done; 1 given
[00:37] <FloodBotK1> naviretlav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <moetunes> naviretlav:  is synaptic open?
[00:39] <naviretlav> moetunes: now .. no
[00:39] <moetunes> it was before?
[00:40] <naviretlav> moetunes: yes , but not at the start of the os ... and I tried to kill synaptic from console, and it's closed
[00:41] <moetunes> naviretlav:  so with no synaptic open how does update-manager go? - you should have a switch with it afaik
[00:42] <moetunes> something like -d
[00:45] <naviretlav> moetunes: stil the same problem
[00:45] <naviretlav> moetunes: maybe I should uninstal synaptic ?
[00:46] <moetunes> naviretlav:  worth a shot - you'll still have kpackagekit
[00:49] <naviretlav> moetunes: lol , with synaptic , I also lost update-manager
[00:49] <moetunes> heh
[00:51] <naviretlav> moetunes: still the same error
[00:52] <moetunes> naviretlav:  does sudo apt-get update work?
[00:53] <naviretlav> moetunes: yes
[00:53] <naviretlav> moetunes: but I removed all repos
[00:54] <moetunes> naviretlav:  add the repos back and try again
[00:54] <naviretlav> moetunes: I need only http://ppa.launchpad.net/maverick-bleed/ppa/ubuntu ??
[00:55] <moetunes> naviretlav:  not if you can't ping it
[01:57] <pandu32> pagi all
[01:57] <pandu32> salam dari kubuntu indonesia
[01:58] <moetunes> !indonesia
[01:58] <moetunes> pandu32:  ^^
[01:58] <pandu32> OK
[01:58] <pandu32>  sorry
[01:58] <pandu32> :)
[01:58] <moetunes> np :)
[02:16] <youlun> Does anyone know why when, using Twinview, windows maximize under my panel?
[02:28] <wqapol> I am in Kubuntu 10.04. knetworkmanager doesn't open. I also tried in  terminal, doesnt open/output anything. What might be wrong?
[02:31] <GabrielYYZ> don't even show an error?
[02:31] <moetunes> wqapol:  does   ps aux | grep -i net   return anything
[02:31] <wqapol> GabrielYYZ: No
[02:32] <wqapol> moetunes: Yes http://pastebin.com/eQVyVnw2
[02:33] <moetunes> wqapol:  that says knetworkmanager is already running
[02:33] <wqapol> moetunes: But I dont see the window
[02:34] <moetunes> wqapol:  you could try   killall -v knetworkmanager && knetworkmanager
[02:36] <Snowhog> wqapol: Isn't the networkmanager icon in your system tray?
[02:37] <wqapol> Snowhog: No, BUT just sec will pastebin what moetunes told
[02:38] <wqapol> moetunes: have a look at this http://pastebin.com/Xj5Vv0Jy
[02:39] <seawing> hello, I just installed an nvidia 220 card and when I started the computer, I an booted directly into the shell with no gui.  anyone out there know what I should do?  I am running Kubuntu 9.04
[02:39] <moetunes> wqapol:  that doesn't look too good - i guess a window didn't open?
[02:40] <wqapol> moetunes: I even tried restarting, knetwork manager is the only window that doesnt open
[02:41] <moetunes> wqapol:  is this a default install? - is this a new error?
[02:41] <wqapol> moetunes: Well, actually I have another issue which I am trying to solve through that network manager,... My dns set in resolv.conf resets everytime i rebot. what might be the exact problem?
[02:42] <wqapol> moetunes: default install of kubuntu 10.04 two days agao
[02:42] <wqapol> moetunes: was never able to open network manager since i installed the os
[02:43] <moetunes> wqapol:  did you do the cd check before installing?
[02:43] <moetunes> errors in that can give unpredictable issues
[02:43] <wqapol> moetunes: No I did not.
[02:43] <moetunes> wqapol:  I would do the check on that now
[02:44] <moetunes> to know if you started from a solid base
[02:44] <wqapol> moetunes: great I will do that right now. thanks for all the help
[02:44] <moetunes> np :)
[02:44] <GabrielYYZ> wqapol: check this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=758920 and check "anti-destin" post
[02:45] <moetunes> I'm sure he got some corrupted files installed from a bad cd burn
[02:45] <moetunes> it sure looks that way
[02:46] <wqapol> GabrielYYZ: /etc/rc.d/networkmanager stop --> bash: /etc/rc.d/networkmanager: No such file or directory
[02:47] <moetunes> archlinux does things different to ubuntu oses
[02:47] <GabrielYYZ> well, then i guess i'll have to agree with moetunes and corrupted files
[02:48] <wqapol> well am on it. just popped in th dvd. Do i have to restart?
[02:48] <moetunes> yep
[02:49] <wqapol> moetunes: well this is the only Pc right now. need to shut down then. will report back later thanks again
[02:49] <moetunes> np :)
[02:51] <GabrielYYZ> it looks like that's a 10.04 bug though: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110915.0 a guy there had the same problem in april of this year
[02:55] <wqapol> moetunes: GabrielYYZ: Network manager issue: cd check done "Check finished: No errors found"
[02:56] <wqapol> I guess I can handle the network manager issue later, but my actual problem is dns resetting after reboot
[02:56] <moetunes> wqapol:  well check the link GabrielYYZ posted -  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110915.0
[02:57] <werwolfanet> http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/25/8
[02:58] <moetunes> werwolfanet:  pls don't post links without an explanation of what they are
[02:58] <moetunes> it looks like spam
[02:58] <GabrielYYZ> my memory fails but i think you edit /etc/resolv.conf with your dns and then sudo chmod 000 it
[02:58] <moetunes> I have never had to do that
[02:59] <relley> edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and include your preferred DHS server on the "prepend" line
[02:59] <GabrielYYZ> i did it when i was using ubuntu lucid
[02:59] <werwolfanet> ok. I'm interessted anybody try this on ubuntu 10.10? http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/25/8
[02:59] <GabrielYYZ> ahh yeah @ relley. that's it
[03:02] <werwolfanet> read befor you try this! it's important if you open ssh access for non root users
[03:05] <relley> wqapol: you cool?
[03:05] <wqapol> moetunes: GabrielYYZ: from that post: wicpd warns about authetication of some packages.  should i go ahead?
[03:06] <wqapol> relley: yes testing out the resolv.conf suggestions now
[03:06] <moetunes> wqapol:  it should be fine
[03:06] <Westyvw> I want to make an envrypted folder, what should I use in KDE?
[03:06] <relley> Westyvw: Truecrypt works well for me
[03:07] <Westyvw> is it available in the repos?
[03:07] <Westyvw> oh i see easycrypt
[03:08] <Westyvw> Ok I can do that, I used to do it all manually using fuse and encryptfs but knew it must be easier nowdays.
[03:08] <relley> It's all easier than the old days... :)
[03:09] <Westyvw> so it uses truecrypt from the .org site eh?
[03:10] <relley> talking about easycrypt? or Truecrypt?
[03:11] <Westyvw> easycrypt wants truecrypt, launches web page
[03:11] <wqapol> relley: ok i edited both your s and GabrielYYZ's edit. Just to know which file takes precedence, resolv.conf or dhclient.conf?
[03:12] <relley> yeah, looks like easycrypt is a GUI for Truecrypt. So, yes you will need truecrypt for it
[03:14] <relley> tho truecrypt is a pretty straitforward program... shouldn't need easycrypt. Your choice though
[03:15] <relley> wqapol: not understanding last statement
[03:16] <wqapol> relley: I mean during boot up which DNS are used, the one specified in resolv.conf or dhcpclient.conf?
[03:21] <relley> seems that dhcpclient.conf would be the best bet
[03:21] <relley> not 100% on that
[03:22] <wqapol> relley: Hmm ok restarting now to test if everythings perfect, I really need Open dns since my ISP's dns are very slow.
[03:23] <relley> okey
[03:23] <wqapol> moetunes: installed wicd , even this one when entered in terminal --> sudo wicd outputs nothing.
[03:24] <valorie> wicd and knetworkmanager don't work well together in 10.10
[03:24] <valorie> as in, won't work at all
[03:25] <wqapol> valorie: oh so any other alternatives, btw am on 10.04.
[03:25] <wqapol> valorie: oh they dont work together, well i will remove knetwork manger then
[03:26]  * wqapol restarts the pc while not being able to access IRC
[03:26] <valorie> I had them both in 10.04 with no problems
[03:26] <valorie> I don't know what the diff is
[03:35] <wqapol> valorie: yes after restart wicd works even though knetworkmanager (still unistalled) doesnt open. thanks
[03:38] <valorie> oh, good
[03:38] <wqapol> How do I check if the DNS I set are indeed being used now? Set Google Open DNS.
[03:38] <valorie> I had problems with networkmgr in 10.04
[03:38] <valorie> thus the wicd
[03:39] <valorie> no problems in 10.10, except when I upgraded, and wicd was still there
[03:40] <wqapol> valorie: hmm wish i could upgrade. bu 10.10 doeesnt work withnvidia drivers for me.
[03:40] <moetunes> wqapol:  do you have a router?
[03:40] <wqapol> moetunes: yes
[03:41] <moetunes> set that as the nameserver
[03:41] <wqapol> moetunes: you mean 192.168.1.1?
[03:41] <moetunes> yep
[03:41] <moetunes> that's one of the jobs routers were built for
[03:42] <wqapol> moetunes: but then that would be using my ISP's dns, and thats what  I want to avoid, the slow ISP's DNS
[03:42] <Snowhog> wqapol: Access the routers configuration and change the DNS entries to what you want to use.
[03:45] <wqapol> Snowhog: I have a doubt. I first set my own dns in routers settings, but that did not reflect in my OS So now I  set that in dhcpclient.conf. Now I want to test if its being used, how can i do that?
[03:54] <relley> maybe unplug router and test dns locally
[03:59] <Snowhog> wqapol: /etc/resolv.conf should contain a single line containing: nameserver IP (where IP is the IP address to your router). The router is configured with the DNS entries you want to use.
[04:01] <wqapol> Snowhog: Thanks, that cleared my doubts perfectly.
[04:02] <wqapol> Snowhog: relley: http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/aboutyou.ch seems to tell the dns we are using, Does it work for you as expected?
[04:05] <wqapol> For me it shows 209.85.174.82 as the dns used which belongs to google. So that clarifies the change works.
[04:06]  * wqapol bows to everyone on this channel for their kind support.
[06:30] <distroUpgrade> I've downloaded the latest [10.10] 32-bit ISO. How do I upgrade my VM from 10.04 to 10.10, using the iso as the repository?
[06:34] <moetunes> afaik you can only do that with the alternate cd but check this out
[06:34] <moetunes> !upgrade
[06:55] <harolddong> does anybody know anything about if and when the 4.6 beta will be available?
[06:56] <moetunes> it's still being worked on so soon is the best answer
[07:23] <eagles0513875> hey guys i got some questions relating to maverick and having kubuntu setup on a netbook
[07:23] <eagles0513875> firstly why on earth to start up
[07:23] <eagles0513875> after using the net install via usb do i need to use the usb to boot off my hdd?
[07:24] <valorie> you shouldn't
[07:24] <valorie> did you try restarting after the net install was done?
[07:24] <eagles0513875> valorie: i know but it seems like i do otherwise nothing boots
[07:24] <eagles0513875> yes
[07:24] <eagles0513875> and nothign booted
[07:24] <eagles0513875> checked bios settings reset to default
[07:24] <eagles0513875> still same issue nothing boots
[07:24] <eagles0513875> when i put in the usb i choose usb then it boots to my hdd
[07:25] <valorie> did you verify the files on your USB?
[07:25] <eagles0513875> yes
[07:25] <eagles0513875> i used unetbootin to create the bootable usb
[07:25] <moetunes> you put the bootloader on the usb it seems
[07:25] <eagles0513875> when i went through the installer
[07:25] <valorie> oh, I did that once
[07:25] <valorie> sucked
[07:25] <eagles0513875> it asked me to put the grub on the MBR
[07:25] <valorie> but I did fix it
[07:25] <eagles0513875> why the heck would it do that if
[07:25] <eagles0513875> i specified the hdd and not the usb
[07:25] <eagles0513875> to install on
[07:26] <valorie> you made a wrong choice somewhere in the setup
[07:26] <eagles0513875> valorie: how can i fix it
[07:26] <valorie> happens
[07:26] <valorie> sec
[07:26] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:26] <eagles0513875> also another question
[07:26] <eagles0513875> i go into settings and i disable my track pad yet it still steagles0513875: ays enabled
[07:26] <eagles0513875> stays*
[07:26] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/10/grub2-and-chroots-dammit.html
[07:27] <eagles0513875> wtf
[07:27] <valorie> read through that and see if any of it applies
[07:27] <eagles0513875> why doesnt kubuntu know to use my browser
[07:27] <eagles0513875> ffs bstop asking me to choose a program
[07:27] <valorie> I wasn't the only one making the error.....
[07:28] <eagles0513875> ha
[07:28] <eagles0513875> found something interesting
[07:28] <eagles0513875> valorie:
[07:28] <eagles0513875> quick fix
[07:28] <FloodBotK1> eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <valorie> silly floodbot
[07:29] <eagles0513875> upon apt-cache policy of grub2 its showing not installed so a simple apt-get install grub2 should fix the problem
[07:29] <valorie> cool
[07:29] <valorie> you didn't make as serious an error as I did, then
[07:29] <valorie> :-)
[07:29] <eagles0513875> 2nd question
[07:29] <eagles0513875> i disable my trackpad yet it still keeps on tracking
[07:30] <valorie> by disable it, what do you mean?
[07:30] <valorie> the keyboard switch?
[07:30] <eagles0513875> turn it off
[07:30] <eagles0513875> you know how some laptops have a button to turn it off so if you hit it the mouse wont move or anything
[07:30] <valorie> right
[07:30] <eagles0513875> i do that
[07:30] <eagles0513875> via setting yet its not disabled
[07:30] <valorie> sounds like that button isn't correctly mapped
[07:31] <valorie> ugh
[07:31] <eagles0513875> :-/
[07:31] <valorie> I remapped something eons ago
[07:31] <eagles0513875> it makes it a royal pain to type sometimes on here
[07:31] <valorie> It can be done
[07:31] <valorie> it's just fiddly
[07:31] <geekosopher> iirc, there is a howto on ubuntu forums about it... looking for it
[07:32] <valorie> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting
[07:32] <valorie> is one
[07:33] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:33] <valorie> looks like it's gotten a bit easier
[07:33] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: have a look at this, may be not exactly relating to your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1629433
[07:33] <valorie> ugh, that's a bit old
[07:33] <valorie> I would look for something newer
[07:34] <eagles0513875> the thing is the disabling of a touchpad exists in system settings
[07:34] <eagles0513875> its jst not toggling the trackpad off
[07:34] <eagles0513875> brb going to test my grub fix
[07:34] <valorie> lordy
[07:34] <geekosopher> valorie: hi
[07:35] <valorie> hi geekosopher
[07:35] <moetunes> a nice way to disable the touchpad while typing - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing
[07:35] <eagles0513875> bah im on frmo my mac
[07:35] <eagles0513875> still not working
[07:35] <eagles0513875> will try run grub update
[07:37] <eagles0513875> valorie: ^
[07:37] <valorie> good luck!
[07:37] <eagles0513875> thanks
[07:37] <eagles0513875> rebooting again
[07:38] <eagles0513875> ffs :(
[07:38] <eagles0513875> nothing
[07:38] <eagles0513875> it makes no sense why would it put grub on the mbr of the usb and not the hdd
[07:38] <valorie> sadly, it does what you tell it to do, rather than what you want it to do
[07:41] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: if I understand correctly, its only the grub that is getting installed on the usb right? rest of the system is on the hdd?
[07:41] <eagles0513875> geekosopher: correct
[07:41] <eagles0513875> i installed grub 2 via commandline ran grub2-update
[07:41] <eagles0513875> or what ever that command is and still nothing
[07:42] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: then once you boot, remove the usb, and then try installing grub again
[07:42] <eagles0513875> tried that
[07:42] <eagles0513875> once i boot i remove the usb
[07:42] <geekosopher> then what happens?
[07:42] <valorie> and then exactly what happens?
[07:43] <moetunes> !grub2 | this tells how to fix it eagles0513875
[07:43] <eagles0513875> thanks ill have to take a look at that later
[07:44] <eagles0513875> geekosopher:  and valorie once i remove usb
[07:44] <eagles0513875> im on the system as normal using the hdd
[07:45] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: and then, did you install grub? does it give any errors?
[07:46] <eagles0513875> geekosopher: i have it installee
[07:46] <eagles0513875> at first i didnt
[07:46] <eagles0513875> then i installed it last go round
[07:46] <eagles0513875> it seems like it still wants the usb
[07:46] <eagles0513875> could it be i used the net installation of kubuntu
[07:46] <valorie> what do you mean, "seems like it still wants the USB?"
[07:47] <eagles0513875> i get a blank black screen with a lil flashing cursor
[07:47] <eagles0513875> cant do anything with it
[07:48] <eagles0513875> nothing loads unless i use the usb
[07:48] <valorie> ok, that's the console
[07:48] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: what is the output of the terminal when you install grub (after removing the usb)
[07:49] <eagles0513875> geekosopher: nothing out of the ordinary
[07:51]  * geekosopher thinks 'ordinary' is subjective
[07:51] <valorie> indeed
[07:53] <eagles0513875> no errors no nothing just normal out put you get with apt-get install
[07:54] <bigbrovar> has anyone managed to get bluetooth headset working with bluedevil on kubuntu 10.10?
[07:55] <Ganymede> hello, i'm an ubuntu user (GNOME desktop) and i just installed kde 4.5.3 using the kubuntu-backports PPA (upgraded from lucid non-PPA 4.3.x). But now, instead of KDE apps using the Skulpture widget style as I've specified in systemsettings, they are using my GTK theme...they are trying to blend into my GNOME desktop. How do I make KDE apps use their own Skulpture style?
[07:55] <valorie> eagles0513875: what about maybe doing apt-get update
[07:55] <valorie> and then upgrade
[07:55] <Ganymede> Previously, KDE apps used the Skulpture style even when run inside a GNOME desktop session.
[07:55] <valorie> maybe you are missing some bits somewhere
[07:55] <eagles0513875> valorie: did that and also ran dist-upgrade to install any updates
[07:56] <eagles0513875> and there were none
[07:56] <valorie> and yet, no desktop?
[07:56] <eagles0513875> i have a desktop
[07:56] <eagles0513875> if i use the usb
[07:56] <eagles0513875> question
[07:56] <eagles0513875> when i raun update- and tabbed twice
[07:56] <valorie> hmmm, that sounds like it isn't going online to get updates'
[07:56] <eagles0513875> why is therean option to run update-grub and update-grub2
[07:56] <valorie> but getting them from the USB
[07:56] <eagles0513875> valorie: im alreayd up todate
[07:57] <eagles0513875> i updated yesterday and the net install pulled all the latest maverick items
[07:57] <valorie> I would put that USB away where you computer doesn't know about it
[07:57] <valorie> lol
[07:57] <eagles0513875> TRYING
[07:57] <eagles0513875> sry bout that
[07:57] <eagles0513875> ran update-grub this time now we see if it loads
[07:57] <eagles0513875> ffs
[07:57] <eagles0513875> blessed net install
[07:58] <eagles0513875> sigh :(
[07:58] <eagles0513875> guess ill have to download the iso
[07:59] <eagles0513875> and redo the installation
[07:59] <eagles0513875> what do you guys think
[07:59] <valorie> sadly, I ended up doing that, for an entirely other reason
[08:00] <eagles0513875> you guys have any ideas
[08:00] <valorie> but it went well
[08:00] <valorie> and this time I used a CD
[08:00] <eagles0513875> would the grub configuration be pointing at the wrong thing in regards to booting now that i have grub2 installed should i point it away from teh usb somehow
[08:00] <valorie> not sure if that made a difference
[08:00] <eagles0513875> valorie: :p easier said then done on a netbook
[08:00] <valorie> yeah
[08:01] <valorie> yes, you def. should
[08:01] <eagles0513875> any other things to try
[08:01] <valorie> use that escape key as reboot is happening
[08:01] <valorie> and make sure the HD is at the top of the list
[08:02] <eagles0513875> the HD is at the top of the list
[08:02] <eagles0513875> if i click on it it goes to black screen with flashing cursor
[08:03] <valorie> which is one of your consoles
[08:03] <eagles0513875> no
[08:03] <eagles0513875> its not
[08:04] <eagles0513875> cant type on it cant login cant do anything
[08:04] <valorie> oh, ugh
[08:05] <eagles0513875> this is an asus eeepc 1001px
[08:05] <eagles0513875> wiht an intel gma 3150
[08:06] <valorie> and you are putting 10.10 on it, right?
[08:07] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: can you give the output of sudo blkid
[08:07] <geekosopher> and of 'df'
[08:09] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: if the list is long you can use !pastebin
[08:09] <geekosopher> !pastebin | eagles0513875
[08:10] <eagles0513875> i know
[08:10] <eagles0513875> im on from a different computer and i have to jump back and forth between the two
[08:10] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: sure, I didn't know that you knew ;)
[08:10] <valorie> sympathies, I've been there
[08:11] <eagles0513875> hehe geekosopher its ok m8
[08:11] <eagles0513875> i have been around since edgy so i know well and true about pastebin
[08:11] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.com/1bcgKKpj
[08:11] <eagles0513875> i think i see the problem
[08:11] <eagles0513875> possibly
[08:12] <eagles0513875> wtf is /dev/shm?
[08:13] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: i wouldn't worry about that; and what is it on your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[08:14] <eagles0513875> http://pastbein.com/zNc4cZK4 <----thats the grub.cfg geekosopher
[08:15] <moetunes> /dev/shm is nothing but implementation of traditional shared memory concept. It is an efficient means of passing data between programs
[08:16] <eagles0513875> moetunes: ok
[08:16] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: that link is not working for me
[08:16] <valorie> pastebin is misspelled
[08:16] <eagles0513875> geekosopher: correct the spelling of pastebin
[08:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:16] <eagles0513875> sry
[08:16] <valorie> http://pastebin.com/zNc4cZK4
[08:17] <geekosopher> hehe, i got it
[08:17] <eagles0513875> sry bout that
[08:17] <eagles0513875> used pastebinit to paste directly to pastebin
[08:17] <eagles0513875> and copied link from cli on netbook to irc by hand on laptop
[08:19] <geekosopher> can't see anything wrong there,
[08:20] <geekosopher> need to go for something urgent... brb
[08:29] <eagles0513875> :( sigh
[08:48] <eagles0513875> valorie: no idea as to my issue :(
[08:48] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: sorry for holding you up, any progress?
[08:48] <eagles0513875> no
[08:48] <eagles0513875> i have to finish up something for church :(
[08:48] <valorie> not beyond my blog post
[08:48] <eagles0513875> so its on hold on my part atm
[08:49] <valorie> I did some googling, but haven't found much of use
[08:50] <moetunes> what was the result with grub2 installed to the hdd and the usb not connected at boot time?
[08:53] <eagles0513875> moetunes: it seems like grub 2 was installed to the usb somehow and not to the hdd
[08:53] <eagles0513875> and the usb was connected cuz i was installing it on a netbook
[08:53] <eagles0513875> i installed grub2 via apt-get and its still not booting with out the usb
[08:54] <moetunes> I know that, I thought you installed grub2 to the hdd after we found that out
[08:54] <moetunes> k
[08:54] <eagles0513875> i used the netinstaller
[08:54] <eagles0513875> not sure if thats buggy for maverick or what
[08:54] <moetunes> eagles0513875:  is the app   grub-setup   installed there?
[08:55] <eagles0513875> ?
[08:55] <eagles0513875> installed where
[08:55] <moetunes> on your kubuntu install
[08:55] <eagles0513875> h/o
[08:56] <moetunes> in konsole type grub and hit the tab key twice to check
[08:56] <eagles0513875> its there
[08:56] <moetunes> try  sudo grub-setup /dev/sda
[08:57] <moetunes> and leave the usb out of the comp
[08:57] <moetunes>  !!!
[08:57] <moetunes> :)
[08:59] <eagles0513875> its done already
[08:59] <eagles0513875> didnt take a sec to complete
[08:59] <eagles0513875> O_o
[09:02] <eagles0513875> moetunes: should i try reboot now
[09:02] <moetunes> try a reboot without the usb connected
[09:02] <eagles0513875> rebooting now
[09:02] <moetunes> luck
[09:02] <eagles0513875> coming back up now we will see if it work
[09:02] <eagles0513875> yay
[09:02] <eagles0513875> :)
[09:02] <eagles0513875> that did the trick
[09:02] <FloodBotK1> eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <moetunes> woot!
[09:03] <eagles0513875> ty moetunes
[09:03] <moetunes> np :) glad it worked
[09:03]  * eagles0513875 tosses moetunes a big fat juicy steak and ribs
[09:03] <eagles0513875> :)
[09:03] <valorie> woooooooooooooo!
[09:03] <moetunes> hehe
[09:03] <eagles0513875> :)
[09:03] <eagles0513875> learned somethign new today as well :)
[09:03]  * eagles0513875 pokes geekosopher :)
[09:04]  * geekosopher pokes back
[09:04] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: donate that usb stick to someone ;)
[09:05] <moetunes> I don't know why installing grub2 didn't run grub-setup tho...
[09:05]  * geekosopher sees moetunes getting fat with all these juicy steaks and ribs on this way
[09:06] <moetunes> heh :)
[09:07]  * eagles0513875 tosses geekosopher and valorie some as well for their time and help
[09:07] <eagles0513875> moetunes: its strange
[09:08] <eagles0513875> i woulda thought the grub2 woudl automatically install it to the boot loader
[09:08] <eagles0513875> i mean the MBR
[09:08]  * geekosopher is a vegetarian
[09:08]  * eagles0513875 tossses a farm and his field at geekosopher
[09:08] <geekosopher> :D
[09:10] <geekosopher> eagles0513875: it does, but it installs it to the first device on its path, and I guess, when you attached the usb, it thought that usb was the first device
[09:11] <geekosopher> i remember someone complaining about the similar problem, and he had kept his memory card in the netbook, and removing it solved the problem :)
[09:12] <eagles0513875> geekosopher: thats just wrong
[09:12] <eagles0513875> if i tell it to install to my 160gb hdd it should install it there and not onto the usb
[09:13] <geekosopher> some programs seem to have mind of their own
[09:13] <eagles0513875> bug reporting time
[09:14] <geekosopher> sure, check for dupes first
[09:14] <moetunes> since the usb was the install drive grub might have seen it as the first disk
[09:14] <moetunes> the one to install to
[09:16] <valorie> the bug report is on my blog
[09:16] <valorie> seems to be a bug which only shows up using a USB key
[09:16] <valorie> which SUCKS
[09:16] <valorie> sec
[09:16] <FloodBotK1> valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:16] <geekosopher> valorie flooding the channel!!! :D
[09:20] <valorie> rofl
[09:21] <eagles0513875> valorie: whats odd is i use it to install my desktop
[09:21] <eagles0513875> and grub has never done that to me before
[09:21] <eagles0513875> using the alt install or the normal cd image
[09:23] <geekosopher> I have heard of these problems for netbooks only... can't guess the difference
[09:23] <eagles0513875> O_o
[09:23] <eagles0513875> interesting
[09:26] <valorie> my laptop isn't a netbook
[09:26] <eagles0513875> i have a laptop which is mac lol
[09:26] <eagles0513875> desktop
[09:26] <eagles0513875> and netbook
[09:26] <eagles0513875> i have machines coming outa my ears
[09:26] <valorie> and this puter is the one I had the problem with
[09:26] <FloodBotK1> eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:26] <eagles0513875> and a server
[09:26] <valorie> only the one time
[09:26] <valorie> which maybe is why they haven't fixed the bug
[09:27] <valorie> I have a netbook, but bought it pre-installed with kubuntu
[09:27] <valorie> then it died
[09:27] <valorie> :(
[09:27] <valorie> now in the shop
[09:27] <geekosopher> wow, pre-installed kubuntu!?
[09:28] <valorie> yep, zareason.com
[09:28] <valorie> excellent company
[09:28] <geekosopher> oh, ok
[09:33] <geekosopher> I read about them opening shop in europe (was it zareason or system76?)... hope they expand to Asia and open a shop India as well
[09:33] <valorie> that I don't know
[09:34] <valorie> shipping can get so expensive
[09:37] <eagles0513875> im so tempted to build a new i7 rig
[09:38] <eagles0513875> for 1,800 USD
[09:38] <eagles0513875> turn my quad into a server in the cloud
[09:39] <valorie> 1800
[09:39] <valorie> that must be quite a machine, or computers are really expensive where you are
[09:40] <eagles0513875> they are expensive
[09:41] <eagles0513875> thats about 1300 euros
[09:41] <eagles0513875> 2 yrs ago i built same price
[09:41] <eagles0513875> a core 2 quad q9550 2.83 ghz with 8gb of ram
[09:41] <eagles0513875> case
[09:41] <eagles0513875> 1gb 8800gt
[09:41] <eagles0513875> 500gb hdd, cd drive and an asus motherboard p5n-d as well as monitor and keyboard
[09:41] <eagles0513875> but now this will be just the tower for that price
[09:42] <valorie> this laptop is dual core
[09:42] <valorie> nice when I'm building amarok
[09:42]  * geekosopher turning red with envy
[09:42] <valorie> is a nice laptop, and my only computer
[09:43] <valorie> until the netbook flies home to me
[09:44] <valorie> I'm a privileged woman, for sure
[09:44] <valorie> our first computer was a Coleco ADAM
[09:44] <valorie> 80K memory!
[09:44] <valorie> and cassette tape storage
[09:45] <valorie> first modem was 300 baud!
[09:45] <valorie> I could out-type it
[09:45] <valorie> lol
[09:45] <valorie> not tempted to live in the past, not at all
[09:52] <eagles0513875> valorie: ha im stuck with my macbook pro which i dont mind but my desk is clutter beyond belief
[09:52] <eagles0513875> macbook and netbook now
[09:52] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:52] <eagles0513875> once i finish this macbook is off the desk for no
[09:53] <eagles0513875> lol 1gb in netbook
[09:53] <eagles0513875> quite entertaining to use and try to compile at the same time
[09:54] <eagles0513875> had to rma all my desktop ram
[09:54] <eagles0513875> to corsair as it had errors like no other hence no desktop
[10:00] <eagles0513875|2> bah stupid connection
[10:48] <DiogenesW> servus
[11:18] <skafti> hey having problems with update can someone help
[11:18] <skafti> stuck on package manage lock
[11:19] <skafti> were the f*** is it
[11:19] <skafti> using package manager
[11:21] <plan_rich> kpackagekit?
[11:21] <skafti> yes
[11:21] <plan_rich> try sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <plan_rich> if it says something like cannot get lock file
[11:22] <plan_rich> you cloud either restart or kill process of kpackagekit (or programm updating)
[11:24] <skafti> i get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[11:32] <skafti> how do i kill the process
[11:33] <skafti> im just curious why i dont get the option of unlocking the process in package kit
[11:36] <skafti> cant cancel the update in package kit
[11:36] <skafti> can i manually cancel it in console
[11:43] <skafti> no one there
[12:13] <adrians> How can I add a printer in Kubuntu 10.10?
[12:20] <sresu> Does restore previous session in System settings restores only KDE applications>
[12:20] <sresu> ?
[12:20] <sresu> Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)
[12:23] <dreamtheater> I just tried to install kubuntu alongside opensuse. Unfortunately, GRUB doesn't start anymore. How can I reinstall it from the kubuntu live cd?
[12:27] <matias> hola a todos...hablan español?
[12:28] <juk> how to upgrade from ubuntu?
[12:33] <matias> hi!
[12:33] <sresu> !spanish
[12:33] <sresu> matias^^
[12:33] <matias> spanish
[12:34] <sresu> matias: </join #ubuntu-es>
[12:34] <matias> ok
[12:34] <matias> i join kubuntu
[12:34] <sresu> dreamtheater: What are you trying to do?
[12:35] <matias> mmmmmmm, other so
[12:35] <sresu> dreamtheater: If you want to install Kubuntu alone as OS, format the drive and install
[12:35] <matias> ok
[12:35] <sresu> matias: ?
[12:35] <matias> yes
[12:36] <sresu> matias: what? Probably you will get better help in #ubuntu-es
[12:36] <matias> ok bye bye
[12:42] <dreamtheater> sresu: I want to dual boot opensuse and kubuntu.
[12:50] <ikonia> dreamtheater: thats actually quite hard now with the current grub2 functionality and how it stores it's configs
[12:53] <kaddi> Hi,
[12:53] <dreamtheater> ikonia: Can you tell me how to make GRUB boot again?
[12:54] <ikonia> dreamtheater: I have no idea, it depends what the problem is
[12:55] <kaddi> I'm trying to upgrade to maverick and am getting this error message: 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend x11-common for x11-xkb-utils, probably a dependency cycle.'  I have looked at google and there's a multitude of solutions there. Before I start trying one after another, could you tell me if there is a preferred/endorsed solution for this or if I should just try them one after another?
[12:57] <plan_rich> dreamtheater
[12:57] <plan_rich> dreamtheater: you could execute update-grub as root, then it remakes the config
[12:59] <kaddi>  I'm a little queasy when thinking of "just" uninstalling xorg before the upgrade :s
[12:59] <dreamtheater> plan_rich: I'd just like get grub working again (with the config stored on /dev/sda1)
[13:00] <plan_rich> kk then try mounting your dev/sda1
[13:00] <plan_rich> /dev/sda1
[13:00] <dreamtheater> plan_rich: Then, when it's working again, I'd edit the menu.lst to boot kubuntu too.
[13:01] <plan_rich> and sudo grub-mkconfig /media/opensusedisk/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:02] <dreamtheater> plan_rich: OK, thank you!
[13:03] <plan_rich> kaddi i see no problem in deinstalling xorg upgrading and den installing plasma-desktop again (should resolve all issues)
[13:04] <kaddi> ok, going with that then
[13:04] <plan_rich> did you upgrade using the gui?
[13:04] <kaddi> used do=release-upgrade
[13:06] <kaddi> google says that it has to do with the backports i've been using
[13:08] <kaddi> upgrade is running now
[13:08] <plan_rich> k
[13:08] <kaddi> stay tuned for what happens after the reboot :p
[13:08] <plan_rich> well
[13:08] <kaddi> hopefully nothing exciting :D
[13:09] <plan_rich> if your kwin manager does not work properly
[13:09] <plan_rich> you should reinstall plasma-desktop package
[13:09] <plan_rich> i never ever made a dist upgrade without having this problem
[13:09] <kaddi> i've never really had issues upgrading, up til now. So I'm optimistic
[13:10] <kaddi> at least none that weren't directly related to bugs within ubuntu
[13:10] <kaddi> upgrade to jaunty was a major PITA, as I am running Intel chips
[13:21] <kaddi> it's removing plasma-desktop now :D
[13:26] <skafti> does someone know how to take off the damm screen suspending !
[13:28] <skafti> taken it off in screen saver setting but keeps turning off the screen anyways
[13:50] <ggeorgy> hi can you help me to install a program ? please
[13:51] <kaddi> what kind of program?
[13:51] <ggeorgy> a zip pakage
[13:51] <ggeorgy> http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/507/capturecrani.png
[13:52] <kaddi> have you checked if the program is available in the repository?
[13:52] <ggeorgy> no
[13:52] <kaddi> i would suggest you do that first
[13:52] <ggeorgy> pk
[13:53] <ggeorgy> ok
[13:53] <kaddi> it's usually better to use the version from repository, as it will get updated and is known to work on kubuntu
[13:53] <ggeorgy> is a game
[13:53] <ggeorgy> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Simulation/RARS-22001.shtml
[13:54] <ggeorgy> i want learn how install this type of programs
[13:55] <kaddi> open the file called INSTALL and read the instructions there, they usually contain all the steps you need to do to install them
[13:58] <ggeorgy> ok
[13:58] <kaddi> let me know if you don't nderstand certain steps
[13:59] <ggeorgy> yes
[14:05] <ggeorgy> not work
[14:05] <kaddi> brb
[14:12] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:12] <kaddi> hi, itäs me again
[14:13] <kaddi> do i did the upgrade and i got a bucketload of errors on the reboot mostly ext4-fs error ext4-getinode-loc, edpma queues and drdyerror
[14:14] <kaddi> it finally started a checkdisk and is now asking me whether i want to fix the errors. Should i try to mount or is ti safe to try and fix the errorsß
[14:16] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  I doubt you will be able to get it to compile.  It requires qt3 and kde2, which no distro supports any more because it is too old.
[14:16] <GreyGeek> kaddi: oops  I meant to type qt2 not qt3
[14:17] <kaddi> i am not trying to compile anzthing
[14:17] <kaddi> just trying to boot into ubuntu after upgrade
[14:17] <kaddi> GreyGeek:
[14:17] <ggeorgy> i m back
[14:17] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  sorry, I should have addressed my response to ggreorgy
[14:18] <GreyGeek> ggreorgy:  see my misplaced response to kaddi
[14:18] <kaddi> GreyGeek: if you would have any input for me that would be awesum rtoo :p
[14:18] <ggeorgy> sorry my computer was locked  so i restarted
[14:19] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  what response are you getting while trying to reboot after the upgrade?
[14:21] <kaddi> it reboots fine, then i can choose the kernel too boot. I get the errors mentioned above, so obviously my ext4 partition is corrupted and ubuntu automatically starts a chkdsk. Then says "Errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" Sicne this is the first time I see it AND I just upgraded I'm unsure which option to choose: Fix, Skip, Ignore?
[14:22] <kaddi> I don't want to corrupt my install by having it fix errors
[14:22] <kaddi> but i don't know if I can break stuff by skipping the fixes either?
[14:23] <ggeorgy> you want upgrade from lucid to maverick?
[14:23] <kaddi> I already did
[14:23] <ggeorgy> yes but its recomanded a clean install
[14:24] <kaddi> GreyGeek: basically I want someone to tell me that if I choose "fix errors" in all likelihood no damage will be done and it'll boot afterwards
[14:24] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  you really have no choice except to choose the "Fix" option.   Even if some of the files are damaged you can use a repair command to restore the distro.
[14:24] <kaddi> GreyGeek: ok, or that :D
[14:25] <BluesKaj> kaddi my understanding is that kubuntu will still install properly on ext3 file systems..someone correct me if I'm wrong
[14:25] <GreyGeek> Kaddi:   after fschk finishes, and assuming you get a desktop or console you can issue "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and/or sudo apt-get -f install"
[14:26] <kaddi> BluesKaj: are you saying i should reformat to ext3 and ditch ext4?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> kaddi, no
[14:26] <GreyGeek> Kaddi:  there is nothing wrong with the ext4 fs.
[14:27] <kaddi> oh, ok.. I was just wondering. I have ext4 formatted drives
[14:27] <BluesKaj> I ssumed you were running ext3 from the errors you described..I encountered the same thing a while back
[14:27] <kaddi> ah, ok :)
[14:28] <kaddi> is there any chance that this issue is realted to grub rewriting the device paths during the upgrade?
[14:28] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  more than likely your HD decided to blow a sector during your upgrade, and it takes fsck to fix that.
[14:29] <kaddi> ok, it just automaticallz rebooted during the fsck
[14:30] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  that's normal... it needs to reload the superblocks.  It may do more than one fsck & reboot
[14:30] <kaddi> am looking at the grub entry now, it saysÖ insmod part_msods, insmod ext2. set root = '(hd1,msdos5)' does that sound correct?
[14:31] <kaddi> well actually the first line says "recordfail"
[14:34] <kaddi> hmm, i guess the designation changed during the upgrade
[14:34] <ggeorgy> do you have dualboot?
[14:35] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  part_msdos.mod and ext2.mod are in /boot/grub.
[14:36] <kaddi> k, i'm in but missing a gui, lol
[14:36] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  boot a livecd and when it comes up open a console and issue "fdisk /dev/sdX"  where X is a or b or c... what ever... for your HD
[14:36] <yoost> why does firefox look so old, it that something specific for just kubuntu? It seems like I have the latest version
[14:37] <GreyGeek> kaddi:   opps, too early in the morning .... that should be "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX"
[14:37] <BluesKaj> yoost, which kubuntu ?
[14:37] <kaddi> I'm installing xorg atm
[14:38] <yoost> The newest version, I installed it just a week ago
[14:38] <yoost> BluesKaj: 10.10 I think it is
[14:38] <yofel> yoost: that has firefox 3.6.12 which is the current stable version
[14:38] <kaddi> GreyGeek: I'll get to the livedisk if it remains unbootable after the next reboot :)
[14:39] <GreyGeek> kaddi: k
[14:39] <kaddi> talking about FF and maverick: Will there be FF4 (64bit) for maverick?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> yoost, describe "old"
[14:39] <yoost> yofel: ok seems weird since it looks like it's from 1992, not at all like the windows version
[14:40] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  they pulled FF4 until spring because of problems.
[14:40] <kaddi> argh, I'm so not up to date :(
[14:40] <kaddi> thanks for letting me know
[14:40] <BluesKaj> yoost, it might be the theme you've chosen
[14:41] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  I tried to download it a couple weeks ago.  The download site was up but it wasn't active.  A few moments later that site disappeared.
[14:41] <yoost> BluesKaj: the kubuntutheme you mean, does that effect browsers? Because chrome looks like it should
[14:41] <kaddi> Looks good :)
[14:41] <yofel> yoost: chrome has it's own theme, firefox uses the default gtk theme
[14:42] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  you were able to boot up?
[14:42] <yofel> yoost: see system settings -> application appearance -> gtk appearance
[14:42] <BluesKaj> chrome isn't integrated to kde like FF , so the theme won't affect chrome like FF is affrctyed by themes
[14:42] <kaddi> I'm in :D
[14:42] <kaddi> GreyGeek: yes, actually already after the last reboot. But xorg was missing due to previous problems i've had, so i had no gui.
[14:42] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  Great!   Just to be sure everything fishished as it should in a console issue "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[14:42] <kaddi> installed xorg and it's up and running now
[14:42] <yoost> yofel: ok that's probably it then, is it possible to change only firefox to something else and keep the settings for the rest of the kubuntu programs and windows
[14:43] <yofel> yoost: that will affect only gtk applications like firefox, thunderbird, ... Qt/KDE apps have their own theme settings
[14:43] <skafti> hey someone know how to disable monitor suspend, tryed everything i know of, just keeps suspending after ca 20 min
[14:43] <kaddi> w00t, even wicd is still installed. That's awesum
[14:43] <yoost> yofel: ok thanks
[14:44] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  looks like you have things under control.  You're going to like Maverick!    BTW, when the 2.6.35 kernel comes out you should see about a 60x increase in speed if you have a dual core or more
[14:44] <yofel> skafti: you did check in screensaver settings and power management settings?
[14:44] <skafti> know it sound silly
[14:44] <skafti> yes
[14:44] <yofel> odd then o.O
[14:44] <skafti> was wondering if it was a bios thing
[14:45] <kaddi> GreyGeek: well we'll see about that.. atm most important thing is to get onlnie so i can ditch this german keyboard and get back to my lovely english one :p
[14:45] <yofel> skafti: could be, what do you have set for the 'performance' profile? (if you let powerdevil manage screen powersaving)
[14:45] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  were you typing in the blind?
[14:46] <skafti> ?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> skafti, perhaps you have the scrnsaver set to no options, but the time setting is enabled to 20 mins
[14:46] <yofel> skafti: in power management settings -> edit profiles -> screen
[14:46] <yofel> erm, edit profiles -> performance -> screen
[14:46] <kaddi> GreyGeek: no. but i usually do.. this is my parents pc and they got a german keyboard and a german keyboard setting... so all these funnz z occur where they shouldn't be
[14:47] <GreyGeek> kaddi:  :-(
[14:47] <esmirlin> hello... is there a how to guide like: things to do after installing kubuntu as for the gnome version?
[14:48] <funcrush_> Hi all, I installed kubuntu 10.10 on dell latitude e4200 but kubuntu doesn't recognize the mic. could someone help me?
[14:48] <skafti> ah powerdevil on 30 min
[14:48] <kaddi_> tada :D
[14:48] <skafti> Thank you guys
[14:48] <skafti> hehe those simple things
[14:49] <kaddi> is it now possible to use both wicd and knetworkmanager side by side?
[14:50] <skafti> Im trying to set up ubuntu on my laptop kubuntu crashed while upgrading. i get this when i start kubuntu up now " 2.971667 Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-blck (0.0)
[14:51] <yofel> skafti: can you try to load an older kernel from grub? (hold shift pressed on bios screen to get the grub menu)
[14:53] <esmirlin> hello, is there a "how to" guide like: things to do after installing kubuntu as for the gnome version?
[14:53] <esmirlin> it's my first time usin kde and i'm soooooooooo lost :S
[14:54]  * GreyGeek will be gone till 13:00
[14:54] <GreyGeek> /AWAY
[14:55] <BluesKaj> kaddi,  afaik wicd disables knetworkmanager during the install to avoid conflicts
[14:56] <kaddi> BluesKaj: Yes until now, everytime I did a KDE upgrade (upgrade to maverick included a switch from kde 4.4 to 4.5) wicd was uninstalled and knetworkmanager was installed
[14:56] <kaddi> this time, after the upgrade wicd is still here and running
[14:56] <geekosopher> esmirlin: click on that little K icon on the bottom left, there applications > help
[14:57] <skafti> but when i start up with ubuntu disk i get  "(initramf s) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input(output error can not mount /dev/loop0 ( (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[14:57] <yofel> kaddi: that was because kubuntu-desktop depends on network-manager being installed and before you could only have either wicd or NM installed, not both. That was changed so you can now, but they can't run both at the same time
[14:57] <skafti> f***
[14:57] <BluesKaj> kaddi, yes knetworkmanager becomes the default during upgrades even if wicd was installed
[14:58] <kaddi> GreyGeek: running win7 and win xp inside maverick sure is a lot smoother than it was in lucid! :) Definitely speed improvement there
[14:58] <asfyxia> @esmirlin, i know one, but unfortunately it is in dutch ;-), most important is that you install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:59] <BluesKaj> yofel, ah good to hear, maybe I can get my wifi working with wicd , because NM certainly doesn't work with my belkin usb wifi adapter
[14:59] <kaddi> BluesKaj, yofel that's cool, I'd been hoping for this for a while :)
[15:05] <skafti> how did you say i get the kernel option ?
[15:05] <skafti> hold shift on biosscreen ?
[15:05] <kaddi> is there a way to move the notifications icon to the right of the system tray or is it fix on left?
[15:05] <skafti> sorry im a dope
[15:06] <yofel> no you're not, that's a bit tricky to get right :/
[15:08] <skafti> thougt it was F5 or something
[15:09] <skafti> escape whis its in startup
[15:10] <skafti> got to kernel recovery mode
[15:21] <kaddi> how do I remove themes that I manually installed from kde-look? I would like to use the updated slim glow theme, but I can't get rid of the ancient version I used to use two years ago
[15:22] <GP40MC> what happens if i delete powerdevil?
[15:27] <slashroot> Hello, does anybody know the kix for the USB bork on NVidia NForce 8200 chipset?
[15:27] <slashroot> fix*
[15:27] <slashroot> I'm having issues tracking it down on launchpad, which is unusual
[15:29] <geekosopher> slashroot: usb bork? not following you... what is the issue?
[15:29] <skafti> get a different problem when i load an older kernel
[15:30] <slashroot> geekosopher: about 2 minutes into a desktop session the USB bus fails
[15:31] <geekosopher> ok
[15:31] <slashroot> it's an issue that cropped up in 9.1 and hasn't been fixed
[15:32] <geekosopher> slashroot: mine never complained, so don't know
[15:33] <slashroot> It's an Acer X3200 and I'd hate to be forced to run windows on it
[15:33] <slashroot> :(
[15:33] <BluesKaj> kaddi, system settings / workspce appearance download new themes and choose one , and in application appearance choose colours which you can download and install as well
[15:34] <kaddi> BluesKaj: I did that, but slim glow, which curretnyl is version 2.9, still shows as version 0.65
[15:34] <kaddi> and it's present in the list whether i chose install or uninstall
[15:35] <BluesKaj> kaddi, dunno what you mean , I just choose which looks good and not worry about the version
[15:36] <kaddi> yes, but the one I want to choose is one that I had previosuly installed manually from kde-look. I can't get that one to install through the thememanager or update it. It is stuck at the version I installed 2 years ago and not working to well with kde4.5
[15:36] <kaddi> so I want to remove the manually installed one and get the one that is available through thememanager
[15:41] <BluesKaj> kaddi, find the path to the original download , then open the file , maybe there's an unstaller.  if not sudo dpkg -r filename might work depending on the file extension
[15:43] <kaddi> i deleted the folder slim-glow from ~/.kde/share/desktoptheme that seems to have worked
[15:44] <BluesKaj> kaddi, check out kdeartwork in you package manager
[15:45] <kaddi> thanks, will do :)
[15:46] <DiogenesW> man, how much RAM does a kubuntu need to run smoothly?rok and handle a few JPGs, and amarok topples over every 20 secoinds
[15:48] <kaddi> i've never had any issues with kubuntu on my old 512Mb RAM laptop
[15:48] <kaddi> it could handle videos, amarok, pictures nicely
[15:51] <DiogenesW> i got half a gig, too, with a 2,5 GHz processor, so what's wrong with my hardware
[15:53] <kaddi> how big are the images you are loading?
[15:53] <kaddi> if those are 10Mb images I can imagine that you get problems
[15:53] <DiogenesW> mom
[15:54] <DiogenesW> largesst is 1,8 MB
[15:54] <DiogenesW> smallest 17 KB
[15:55] <kaddi> that should not be in issue than I think
[15:56] <DiogenesW> all in all roundabout 13 MB
[15:56] <kaddi> hmm, no idea
[15:56] <kaddi> have you checked that your RAM still works?
[15:59] <kaddi> minimum requirement is 512MB and 1GHz Processor and a graphic card capable VGA @ 640x480 	
[15:59] <BluesKaj> DiogenesW, check whateating your cpu or ram in system monitor
[15:59] <BluesKaj> what's eating
[16:00] <DiogenesW> i got nicotine running ... eats a few percent
[16:00] <DiogenesW> of the cpu
[16:01] <DiogenesW> plasma uses nearly 10 percent
[16:01] <DiogenesW> maybe i should switch off the slideshow on the background :)
[16:03] <DiogenesW> that was it, probably, plasma-desktop is now using almost nothing
[16:06] <DiogenesW> bewtter, but not good
[16:08] <DiogenesW> *sigh*
[16:09] <kaddi> disable desktop effects will usually help
[16:11] <DiogenesW> i have switched off windows effects already
[16:11] <DiogenesW> i find them unnecessary
[16:12] <rats_> when I run chkrootkit I get this output Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while... The following suspicious files and directories were found:
[16:12] <rats_> /usr/lib/jvm/.java-6-sun.jinfo /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.22/.systemPrefs /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/.path /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/.noinit /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.12/.autoreg
[16:12] <DiogenesW> kaddi who can i check my ram?
[16:12] <rats_> is this a problem
[16:13] <SporkWitch> anyone recommend a good FOSS file recovery tool that can also work with NTFS partitions?  not having much luck on google (all the NTFS ones I find only run from windows itself)
[16:15] <DiogenesW> next problem, which is very very annoying: inkscape crashes as soon i open the document properties dialogue, that is, i *try* to open it
[16:18] <speedvin> DiogenesW: open it from console and show error
[16:18] <speedvin> DiogenesW: or better post it at pastebin and show us link to it
[16:20] <DiogenesW> it's just one line:
[16:20] <DiogenesW> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gtk::IconThemeError'
[16:22] <SporkWitch> anyone able to recommend a good, free file recovery tool that will run in linux and is able to work on NTFS partitions?
[16:22] <Machtin> Hey guys, i'm looking for an global equalizer.. any hints?
[16:25] <skafti> how do i manually clean out trash
[16:25] <skafti> ?
[16:25] <skafti> i know silly questin, but im just a  little silly so im bound to be forgiven
[16:30] <BluesKaj> skafti, no trash icon anywhere?
[16:32] <rats_> BluesKaj: there is a widget for trash
[16:35] <BluesKaj> yes rats_ , I was about to get to the install from widgets part , but I'm waiting to se if one already exists
[16:35] <BluesKaj> maybe on the desktop
[16:37] <kaddi> uhm BluesKaj, this is probably a very stupid question, but now that i have installed kdeartwork, how do I get to the additional themes? Are they available when I click on nwe themes?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> kaddi, dunno , I'm stumped too ...I did the same and installed it but there seem to be more themes in workspace appearance , but that's all I've found so far
[16:41] <kaddi> ah yes, heron, elegance, blend are new
[16:41] <kaddi> lol, i kinda was expecting more though, tbh :p
[16:43] <BluesKaj> kaddi, perhaps a reboot ? not sure :/
[16:45] <kaddi> i think it installed aurorae?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> gona reboot , brb
[16:47] <SporkWitch> anyone tried installing kubuntu on one of the macbooks with intel processors?
[16:48] <kaddi> but reboot is always such a hastle :p
[16:48] <kaddi> hassle
[16:48] <kaddi> not me
[16:50] <kaddi> BluesKaj any change?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> bone that I can see kaddi ...I'm wondering where all those supporting apps went and what do they do ?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> err none
[16:57] <mcNisse> Im trying to install natty from the nigthly builds in virtualbox. Its fails because the installer cannot find QWidget.
[16:57] <mcNisse> Where can I file a bug?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> !launchpad
[16:58] <mcNisse> I know, but I dont know the correct project
[16:58] <kaddi> BluesKaj, yeah.. I see about 3-4 additional installed themes, including slim glow. There's not all that much changed.
[17:00] <kaddi> but i think aurorae is new.. (then again i upgraded to maverick today, so it's hard to say who is to blame :p )
[17:01] <kaddi> bbl
[17:19] <adrians> Has anybody been able to get the network manager to display a DSL connection?
[17:22] <murchadh> Hi all! When I start kubuntu I have to run plasma-desktop manually. How is it started usually? And sometimes the desktops, I have it set to four, get moved slightly off centre. Anyone have this problem?
[17:27] <Snowhog> murchadh: What version of Kubuntu? What version of KDE? Laptop, Netbook, Desktop PC?
[17:39] <Snowhog> wqapol: Your DNS changes still working for you?
[17:41] <murchadh> Snowhog: Kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.42, Netbook (Acer aspire 1 531h). Running well but for some minor niggles.
[17:42] <Snowhog> murchadh: KDE 4.4.2? On 10.10, the default KDE is 4.5.x. Are you sure you are running KDE 4.4.2?
[17:43] <murchadh> Snowhog: Help says 4.4.2. Anywhere else I could check?
[17:46] <murchadh> Snowhog: May be using a ubuntu upgraded from 10.04. Kernel 2.6.32-26-generic.
[17:46] <Snowhog> murchadh: Is this a new installation of 10.10, or an upgrade from version ??
[17:48] <murchadh> Snowhog: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l (cat /etc/issue) is what I'm running, sorry.
[17:56] <Nemco> #kubuntu-es
[17:56] <Nemco> #ubuntu-es
[17:58] <Snowhog> murchadh: You might want to give serious consideration to upgrading to KDE 4.5.3. It was released for Kubuntu 10.04 four days ago. See http://www.kubuntu.org/news
[17:59] <Snowhog> !#ubuntu-es
[18:03] <Snowhog> Nemco: Espanya?
[18:03] <Nemco> Snowhog: ah?
[18:03] <Nemco> Snowhog: que es eso?
[18:04] <Snowhog> Snowhog: English.
[18:04] <Nemco> Snowhog: que si soy de españa?
[18:04] <Nemco> Snowhog: no
[18:04] <Snowhog> !spain
[18:05] <Pici> !es
[18:05] <Pici> 30
[18:05] <Pici> oops
[18:05] <Snowhog> Pici: Thanks. New it was in there.
[18:05] <Pici> !spain is <alias> es
[18:06] <Snowhog> GreyGeek: Morning
[18:07] <GreyGeek> Snowhog:  Deja Vu?   Good afternoon!
[18:07] <Snowhog> GreyGeek: West greats East. :) 10 degrees this morning.
[18:08] <GreyGeek> 49F here, but freezing rain coming tomorrow :-(
[18:09] <Snowhog> GreyGeek: Snowed last night. Maybe two inches or less here at the house.
[18:09]  * Tm_T kindly reminding that we have #kubuntu-offtopic too
[18:10] <Snowhog> Tm_T: Noted. Thanks.
[18:10] <GreyGeek> Snowhog: goto go...  was given an external HD to recover data from before the owner returns to college this evening.
[18:23] <shed> GreyGeek -38 degrees outside, lucky you
[18:41] <murchadh> Snowhog: Didn't realise I was set to LTS. Upgrading now. Thanks for your help!
[18:56] <electroweak> hi guys I just installed Kubuntu on a dell inspiron 1525 I am suffering very high system load any ideas
[18:57] <moetunes> check what's using the resources in konsole using   top
[18:57] <electroweak> nepomukservices is sucking all the resources do I really need thtat
[18:58] <moetunes> nope
[18:58] <moetunes> !info nepomuk
[18:58] <moetunes> !find nepomuk
[18:59] <electroweak> !find nepomuk event not found
[19:01] <electroweak> what should I do about that nepomuk
[19:06] <moetunes> it is actually strigi that is doing the work - once the index is built cpu use should calm down
[19:06] <moetunes> !info strigi
[19:07] <electroweak> what happens if I stop the process
[19:16] <eagles0513875> hey guys how come when runnign the netbook style version of kde on a netbook its a million times slower then the normal kde that you would find on a desktop
[19:22] <nascentmind> Hi. When I set my fonts to Anti Aliasing it doesn't seem to apply. How can I fix this?
[19:27] <vegberg> Hey
[19:27] <vegberg> Bye
[19:27] <nascentmind> anybody?
[19:27] <simonO> hi, I just lost access to the "desktop settings", because I changed the right mouse button action to application launcher. is there another way to access the desktop settings?
[19:30] <Snowhog> simonO: Try the default Alt+D,S
[19:31] <simonO> Snowhog, tnx, I think I saw alt-D,S when I first accessed it, but I never interpreted it as a sequence (though , is the sequence operator ;)
[19:32] <simonO> it surprised me that just alt-D didn't do anything...
[19:32] <Snowhog> simonO: Yes, you have to press Alt+D followed by S for it to work.
[19:34] <simonO> hold on, I get folder view settings, not desktop settings...
[19:34] <simonO> does it matter where I press alt-D and then s
[19:35] <Snowhog> simonO: No. Did you have Folder View as the Activity option?
[19:39] <simonO> Snowhog, sorry about that, my X-server detected a hung i915 chip (or something)
[19:39] <Snowhog> simonO: You need to have the Desktop showing - minimize any open apps - then Alt+D,S
[19:40] <simonO> then I get nothing
[19:41] <Snowhog> simonO: You said you got Folder View.
[19:41] <simonO> I did
[19:41] <Snowhog> simonO: And now?
[19:41] <simonO> nothing
[19:42] <simonO> but I removed the desktop folder on the desktop
[19:42] <Snowhog> simonO: You aren't pressing the ',' after pressing Alt+D and the S key are you?
[19:42] <simonO> no ;-)
[19:42] <Snowhog> simonO: Had to ask. :)
[19:43] <simonO> np
[19:45] <simonO> when I re-install the folder view plasmoid on the desktop, I get folder view settings again with alt-d,s
[19:46] <simonO> I don't have a cashew in the top right corner, is that normal?
[19:47] <simonO> ah, now I've got it, right clicking on the folder view plasmoid gave me a menu where the desktop settings are as well
[19:48] <simonO> it says: alt-d,alt-s, so maybe that will actually work as well
[19:48] <simonO> indeed it does...
[19:49] <simonO> but I'd consider this a usability bug, that it's so easy to lose access to this settings window...
[20:05] <DiogenesW> gute nacht
[20:36] <v3nd3tta``> hey i know my graphics card and my monitor support both 60 hz, why can i select in my Screen Settings only 50 and 51 hz settings?
[20:37] <eagles0513875> v3nd3tta``: hey
[20:37] <eagles0513875> :)
[20:37] <eagles0513875> how goes it
[20:37] <v3nd3tta``> hey eagles0513875 :) let that ot discussion go to ot chan :)
[20:38] <eagles0513875> oh ahhah whoops
[20:40] <bernd> tag leute
[20:41] <bernd> kann hir einer deutsch
[20:41] <v3nd3tta``> !de | bernd
[20:41] <v3nd3tta``> aber ja :)
[20:42] <bernd> gut danke für den hin weiss
[20:53] <elijah>  "cannot get exclusive lock on the packaging backend" ... "W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/stable/Release Unable to find expected entry non-free/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)".... "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." [20:53] <eagles0513875> elijah: sounds like you dont have an internet connection
[20:54] <kaddi> ever since I upgraded my kopete no longer shows in the system tray
[20:54] <kaddi> that means when I close it, it's gone and I can't bring it back
[20:54] <elijah> eagles0513875: Lol, well, that one is ruled out ;)
[20:54]  * eagles0513875 waves to kaddi long time no c
[20:54] <kaddi> how do I get kopete to show in system tray again for maverick?
[20:54]  * kaddi waves back :)
[20:54] <kaddi> how are you?
[20:55] <eagles0513875> kaddi: nb nb enjoying my netbook finally got it the way i wanted
[20:55] <eagles0513875> the netbook desktop is a totally and utter mess in the sense plasma is resource hungry
[20:55] <eagles0513875> normal kde desktop is super zippy
[20:55] <kaddi> hehe, nice
[20:55] <eagles0513875> anywho i need to see if i can find dinner or sis and her bf r still watching a movie
[20:56] <eagles0513875> kaddi: hop in offtopic sometime im always in there and we can have a chat
[20:56] <kaddi> done :p
[20:57] <elijah> eagles0513875: Fixed, it by unchecking all google repositories
[20:57] <eagles0513875> odd it could be those repos r broken
[21:14] <Snowhog> kaddi: Have you check that Kopete's menu entry has Place in system ray checked?
[21:15] <Snowhog> *tray
[21:15] <kaddi> no, i just did an upgrade so i expected the same settings to remain in place. will do so now
[21:17] <kaddi> that was an easy fix :p
[21:57] <msibelle> Hi! I have a problem with the network management: I can manually "ifconfig eth0 .... && route add default ..." to have a network connection, but I don't know why it is not working "normally" when I startup........
[21:58] <msibelle> and I can not use my Wifi card, while I used to be able to use it before the last update of my Kubuntu. Any one could help me find how to simply configure my eth0 card at startup?
[21:58] <msibelle> And maybe then, we could findout what happened with my wifi card :/
[22:00] <msibelle> First, I would like to know what I have to do to have a eth0 connection up at startup... anyone can tell me that?
[22:01] <moetunes> alot of ppl install wicd - it seems to work better
[22:01] <moetunes> !info wicd
[22:01] <msibelle> Ok, but is there a "normal" not optionnal :) tool? I mean, the Ubuntu/Kubuntu native one...
[22:01] <msibelle> (but thanks for wicd anyway)
[22:03] <msibelle> I have installed wicd, I reboot.
[22:06] <msibelle> Ok :) at last I have an eth0 automatically...
[22:07] <msibelle> sorry, but I am sad to discover that Ubuntu network management is so complicated :/
[22:07] <msibelle> It used to work, it no longer works after an update :/
[22:09] <msibelle> Now, can anyone help me find out why I can no longer use my Wifi card?
[22:09] <msibelle> I do not really know why it used to work, so I do not know why it no longer works :/
[22:13] <moetunes> might help if you tell what sort of wifi card it is
[22:13] <moetunes> !wifi
[22:24] <msibelle> Please, anyone could help me find out why I can not connect to an unsecured WiFi access point (neither to a WPA secured)?
[22:24] <msibelle> It does not manage to get an IP...
[22:24] <msibelle> (it is working on Windows)
[22:25] <msibelle> ?
[22:26] <v3nd3tta``> !wifi | msibelle
[22:28] <msibelle> v3nd3tta: ??? as I said, it used to work fine BEFORE I made the updates 2 months ago... so I think it may be not a problem of "how to". But I am reading the doc right now.
[22:42] <msibelle> http://pastebin.com/9tyaD3jh any idea why I can not access an unsecured WiFi access point?
[22:45] <russia_bear> asssss
[22:45] <Snowhog> msibelle: Do you now, have both KNetworkmanager and Wicd installed?
[22:47] <msibelle> I don't precisly understand your question Snowhog, but I have KNetworkManager because I used to use it, and now I also have Wicd because someone here told me to install it as it seems to be "better" (and it solve my first problem which was "Why have I no eth0 connection on startup?")
[22:48] <msibelle> I don't mind uninstalling KNetworManager, do you think I should?
[22:48] <Snowhog> msibelle: When Wicd is installed as well as KNetworkmanger, there are 'issues'. Just a sec and I'll give you a link to what works for many to fix this.
[22:48] <msibelle> oki
[22:51] <Walzmy_> how come my taskbar does not normally show applications on a differnt desktop, but it does with GIMP
[22:52] <derek_> hello all
[22:53] <msibelle> Hello :
[22:53] <msibelle> :)
[22:56] <derek_> hello misibelle
[22:57] <Snowhog> msibelle: See http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110183.0 and scroll down to Wicd, Knetworkmanager, netapplet, knm-runtime, etc... This ensures that all pieces of KNetworkmanager are removed and all required pieces of Wicd are installed. Make sure that you have all the Wicd pieces first. Of course, if you don't want Wicd, don't do this.
[23:01] <Snowhog> msibelle: And if you do want to use KNetworkmanager instead of Wicd, then see http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3114008.0
[23:02] <msibelle> Snowhog: I don't mind using wicd or KNetworkManager :) all I want is not having NO network connection on startup after a Ubuntu update ;)
[23:02] <msibelle> thank you for your time, I read.
[23:47] <ginbuntu> hi
[23:47] <ginbuntu> when is kde 4.5.80 going to be available?
[23:52] <Snowhog> ginbuntu: The pat answer is 'soon.' It's still being validated for Natty. When that's satisfied, it'll be backported (beta) for Maverick.
[23:52] <ginbuntu> Snowhog, will it be available next week?
[23:53] <Snowhog> ginbuntu: Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball. :)
[23:54] <Snowhog> ginbuntu: See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging and read down to Maverick