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bassoso whats up?00:06
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BookmanHow do I change my keyboard settings?  I want to be able to use my 'special keys' like my volume keys.02:40
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stlsaintBookman: are you talking about changing the keyboard layout?02:46
stlsaintBookman: System>Preference>Keyboard02:46
BookmanI don't have System02:49
BookmanI have Preferences>Keyboard and Mouse02:49
Bookmanbut it does not have an option/ability to change the layout.02:50
BWMerlini am having problems with lubuntu, i cant do anything (literally)02:52
BWMerlini can open file manager, click on the menu and restart lubuntu and that is it02:53
stlsaintBWMerlin: you are on Lubuntu?02:54
BWMerlinatm windows with lubuntu inside vmware02:54
stlsaintBookman: what distro are you on?02:55
BookmanLubuntu02:55
stlsaintaye, sorry for asking, should have known :D02:57
stlsaintBWMerlin: are you able to open any applications?02:58
BookmanNo problem.  googling the problem here and there seems to be no way to change the keyboard layout.  At least through a gui application.02:58
stlsaintBookman: sorry as im not on my lubuntu install atm,02:58
stlsaintBookman: do you have a /etc/default/keyboard config?02:58
BWMerlinstlsaint: nope, the "start" meny has run and logout02:59
BWMerlini cant open chrome02:59
BWMerlinand my home folders has a read me telling me to set up home folder encryption and the file i am suppose to run to set it up03:00
Bookmanstlsaint, nope, no /etc/default/keyboard03:00
BWMerlini cant run the file and i cant access a terminal promot03:00
stlsaintBWMerlin: that sounds like a faulty install03:00
BWMerlinooo03:00
BWMerlinok03:00
BWMerlinreinstall it is03:01
phillwBookman: there is a new lxkeymap coming out, it's only available in the development ppa at the moment. please be patient :)03:01
stlsaintphillw: can the keyboard layout be changed in the control center?03:01
Bookmanphillw, no worries at all!03:02
phillwstlsaint: not at present, it can be done via CLI, but I've long since forgotten how to do it. with lxkeymap it will be a gui03:02
stlsaintBookman: yes the keymap can be changed via cli03:03
Bookmansetxkbmap03:03
BookmanBut I can put up with no volume keys until the lxkeymap is ready!03:04
phillwBookman: it's in the ppa for 11.04 lubuntu is now in the 'tweaking' things stage of its young existance, and paper-cuts are a real PITA03:06
stlsaintBookman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup03:06
phillwBookman: http://pastebin.com/PxBQu9vN03:09
* phillw just takes me a while to dig through the archived email stuff :)03:10
BWMerlinthis is the second time I have noticed this, but the choose your location map is very laggy03:13
Bookmanphillw, I'm not sure I understand what you are showing me there.03:14
Bookmanstlsaint, Nice, but I don't see my keyboard config in there.  Compaq R4000 laptop.03:14
Bookmanphillw, is there a ppa that I should be adding?  I don't mind testing versions.  This is my play laptop!03:24
phillwBookman: before you add a ppa, can you add https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#ppa-purge03:26
stlsaintphillw: hey i meant to ask you about that, there is a ppa-purge on webupd8, is there a difference between the lubuntu ppa and the one on webup8?03:27
stlsaintphillw: oh, this seems to be a lubuntu specific ppa, where is this ppa hosted at?03:28
Bookmanphillw, so I should purge first?03:29
phillwstlsaint: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa03:29
stlsaintoh never mind03:30
stlsaintBookman: no, only purge after you have added a ppa that has caused a issue with your system03:30
Bookmanphillw, sorry, but a little confused.  You are asking me to add a purge?03:33
stlsaintBookman: did you read the wiki page?03:34
stlsaintBookman: the purge application is only used when a ppa causes issues with system03:35
Bookmanstlsaint, yes, I understood that.  Just a little confused over phillw last message to me. "before you add a ppa, can you add https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#ppa-purge"03:35
BookmanHow do I add a purge?03:36
phillwBookman: having ppa purge on BEFORE you need it is a good idea :)03:36
BookmanAh, got it now!03:36
Bookman(sorry, easily confused sometimes)03:37
Bookmanpurge installed03:38
BWMerlini think my ubuntu install borked again03:40
BWMerlinits been saying that system is shutting down for 10 mins now03:40
stlsaintBWMerlin: in vm still?03:40
BWMerlinyep03:41
stlsaintBWMerlin: just reset the machine and boot into it again03:42
Bookmanphillw, Ok, purge installed.  Is there a testing ppa now?03:46
phillwBookman: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa03:47
Bookmanphillw, excellent, thanks.03:53
Bookmanphillw, I see that it supports languages, but not layouts.03:55
phillwBookman: it's still a developement ppa :)03:56
BookmanGood progress though !03:56
BookmanMan, I just love how my laptop runs so cool with Lubuntu compared to Ubuntu.  I think I'll install it on my wife's machine tonight03:57
phillwBookman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved do get registered and chip in, it's not a mailing list that will send you 100's of mails a day.03:57
Bookmanphillw, I guess it is about time that I did!03:59
Bookmanhey, I have the wife's machince but it does not have a working cd drive anymore.  Is there a way to install Lunbuntu on it?04:01
phillwan external usb cd drive?04:02
Bookmandamn, left it at work....04:02
BookmanUbuntu causes that machine to run so hot.04:02
phillwif the computer can boot from usb stick then you can make one of those.04:02
BookmanYeah, I don't have one of those either!04:03
phillwBookman: then you're like a turkey at Christmas .... stuffed :P04:03
Bookmanhahaha, yeah, I thought so.04:04
phillwBookman: you can install lubuntu and remove gnome if it has internet access04:04
phillwBookman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors04:06
phillwBookman: we're nice like that :)04:06
BookmanHoly, you are just full of info!04:06
BWMerlingah05:11
BWMerlinlubuntu is broken again05:12
BWMerlinim starting to think the way im installing it has something to do with it05:12
phillwBWMerlin: have you run the self test on the CD?05:36
BWMerlinim using the iso05:36
BWMerlinbut i can run that i guess05:36
BWMerlinok the cd check said no errors05:38
phillwBWMerlin: if it is not installing correctly, you may need to clean the cd drive lens, If you can get hold of one - Clean the CD drive with a CD-Drive cleansing CD, burning an ISO CD requires far greater precision than burning, say, a music CD. ( just type in cd lens cleaner into your favourite search engine, they can be bought for about 3 USD / 1 GBP)05:43
BWMerlinphillw: maybe i should of said earlier this is all inside vmware so im just using the iso no need to burn it05:44
phillwas there are two leds on a cd/rw drive, it is possible one of them is a bit dirty.05:44
phillwBWMerlin: I have no knowledge of vmware, sorry.05:45
BWMerlinit installs05:46
phillwBWMerlin: you can ask on #ubuntu-beginners one of the people on there may be familiar with vmware.05:46
BWMerlinbut i dont get a populated "start" menu05:46
BWMerlinand nothing runs05:46
BWMerlini can open my home folder and see the readme about encrypting my drive and the file i need to run to do it but it doesnt run05:46
BWMerlinand i cant open anyting05:46
phillwhave you md5'd the iso?05:46
BWMerlinnope will do that now05:47
phillwalthough if the self test reports okay, it should be okay.05:48
BWMerlinwhere can i find the lubuntu md5 sum?05:51
BWMerlinok the sums work out05:53
phillwBWMerlin: if the md5 is okay (which is suspected it would) it is a VMware issue, I'm sorry but I have no experience of it. see if any one on  #ubuntu-beginners has experience with using it.05:56
BWMerlinim going to try something05:57
BWMerlinim thinking that 3 things might be messing it up05:58
BWMerlinim going to try installing it without home folder encryption, not getting updates and not using 3rd party drivers05:58
phillwBWMerlin: it's always wise to resort to basics if you are having a problem :)05:59
BWMerlinbeing a vm its easy to spin up a new one05:59
BWMerlinphillw: this is looking much better06:21
BWMerlinone of those three things (or possibly all of them together) screwed up my install06:22
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leszekhi10:38
bioterrorhi leszek10:46
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annihilatoris there a 64bit version of lubuntu?  if not can i get the same effect if i install cmdline ubuntu and then aptget the lxde desktop? and get the same distro package?20:09
bioterrorinstall mini.iso 64bit20:11
bioterrorand then lubuntu20:11
phillwannihilator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall covers using the 64bit kernel.20:14
bioterrortake the 10.10 64bit ;)20:14
annihilatorthx20:14
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annihilatorphillw: doing the instructions you gave me does that will allow me to run 64bit programs? under the lxde desktop?20:24
annihilatorand i have another question does linux support sharememory videocards?20:25
annihilatorlubuntu to be specific of course20:25
phillwall the programmes are cross compiled in both 32 and 64 bit, it will pull in the 64 bit versions.20:25
phillwannihilator: I've never heard of those cards, but as the video cards are supported by the kernel and not the desktop environment they should be fine if they work on any flavour of ubuntu.20:26
annihilatorphillw: intel video cards are shared memory20:27
phillwi have an intel shared memory graphics chip on my laptop, never had a problem :)20:27
annihilatorthey use the ram as video memory but i have an nvidia card with 256 dedicated but in windows i can allow it to use the unused portion of my memory in the 32bit version20:27
bioterrorgraphics cards which takes memory from computer RAM20:28
bioterrormy laptop has one20:28
annihilatorso i have about 1.5gb of video memory  (256 dedicated and the rest is shared memory) that is why i was asking20:28
phillwbioterror: ^^ :)20:28
annihilatorcause if i use the 32bit version of (l)ubuntu and get the same effect i will just go down that route20:29
bioterroryou can adjust those from BIOS?20:29
annihilatorno20:29
bioterrorhow much ram does the GPU take from RAM20:29
annihilatorit is autocontrolled by bios but i can overide through the nvidia driver20:30
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annihilatorit uses 1.5gb of system memory20:32
bioterrorwhat20:32
annihilatoryou asked how much ram my gpu uses20:32
annihilatorit uses 1.5gb20:32
bioterror:o20:32
annihilatorwhich gives me a total of 1.791gb20:32
bioterrormy desktop has only 512MB ;)20:32
annihilatori have 4gb of ram and my nvidia drivers allocates 1gb of system memory between the cpu and gpu as needed20:33
annihilatorthe other .5 is added to the 256mb of the gpu20:33
annihilatorbut trying to get the same effect in ubuntu might prove difficult but since it is a nividia card i might be able to accomplish that but only if nix supports it20:35
bioterrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia20:36
Goodgamebonjour20:38
phillwannihilator: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 is also a great resource.20:38
Goodgamela commande pour chercher les paquets contenant un mot précis sous ubuntu c'est quoi de nouveau?20:38
phillwGoodgame: english, please. My french is very poor :)20:38
Goodgamehow shit wrong channel20:39
bioterror!language20:39
ubot5Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional..20:39
Goodgamesorry20:42
Goodgameanother question20:42
Goodgamewhen I create another virtual desktop it disapears at the reboot, this isn't normal is it?20:42
bioterroryou mean third workspace?20:42
Goodgameyes20:42
bioterrornano .config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml20:43
bioterror  <desktops>20:43
bioterror<number>2</number>20:44
bioterrorchange that20:44
Goodgamethanks20:46
Goodgamegotta reboot to make it ok?20:46
bioterrorlog off and log in20:46
bioterrorwe're not using windows 95 or 9820:47
bioterror:;)20:47
Goodgameanother question20:47
Goodgamewhat is they keyboard combinaison in chromium to go to the adress bar20:48
bioterrorctrl+l20:48
bioterrorlike in firefox & opera20:48
Goodgameok thanks20:48
Goodgamedo you know rhythmbox?20:48
bioterroryes, but I dont use it20:48
Goodgameok20:49
BookmanHas anyone ever installed xPlane on Lubuntu before?22:03
bioterrornope22:06
bioterrorand it's not in the repos :D22:06
BookmanI am getting the following:  error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory22:08
Bookmanbioterror, I understand it is not in the repos, but I am sure one can install software outside the repos?22:08
BookmanAh, it seems to be a fault with Ubuntu distros.  some error with the openal package.....22:13
bioterror:DDDDDDDDDDDdd22:13
bioterrorworks now22:13
bioterrorsudo ln -s /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.022:13
bioterrorthere you go22:13
bioterrorhappy gaming22:13
BookmanTried that...no go22:14
bioterrorit is a go22:14
bioterrorI can confirm it with my Lubuntu 10.1022:14
Bookmanln: target `/usr/lib/libopenal.so.0' is not a directory22:14
BookmanSo maybe not all installations are equal?22:14
bioterrorso how about installing some libraries?22:15
bioterrorsudo apt-get install libopenal122:15
BookmanDone that22:15
bioterrorthen you should have that22:15
Bookmanhmmm....22:15
bioterrorand you have so.1 which you're linking as .0122:16
bioterrorso.022:16
bioterrorso w00t w00t22:16
bioterroryou cant make 0 from 022:16
bioterrorright?22:16
Bookman?22:16
bioterror$ ls /usr/lib/libopenal.so.122:17
bioterrordoes that command reply you something22:17
BookmanAh, I got you.  I copied from their own website and pasted to terminal.  I now copied what you gave me and it is working.  Thanks!22:18
bioterrorofcourse it works if I say it ;)22:18
BookmanThere you go!22:18
bioterrorhappy downloading22:18
BookmanThanks again.  Appreciate the help!22:19
BookmanOh, one last thing...how do I change my clock to a 12 hour clock?22:22
bioterrordigital clock settings22:23
bioterrorwhen you right click it22:23
bioterrorand change clock format to %h:%m%p22:23
bioterrorsorry22:23
BookmanDoes that 'st'?ick22:24
bioterrordamn22:25
bioterrortrying to remember22:25
BookmanYeah, that did not work!22:26
bioterrorit's %I:%M%p22:26
BookmanAnd it is done!  Thanks yet again.22:26
BookmanNow, is it 'sticky'?22:26
bioterrorshould be22:27
BookmanAwesome22:27

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