[00:06] <basso> so whats up?
[02:40] <Bookman> How do I change my keyboard settings?  I want to be able to use my 'special keys' like my volume keys.
[02:46] <stlsaint> Bookman: are you talking about changing the keyboard layout?
[02:46] <stlsaint> Bookman: System>Preference>Keyboard
[02:49] <Bookman> I don't have System
[02:49] <Bookman> I have Preferences>Keyboard and Mouse
[02:50] <Bookman> but it does not have an option/ability to change the layout.
[02:52] <BWMerlin> i am having problems with lubuntu, i cant do anything (literally)
[02:53] <BWMerlin> i can open file manager, click on the menu and restart lubuntu and that is it
[02:54] <stlsaint> BWMerlin: you are on Lubuntu?
[02:54] <BWMerlin> atm windows with lubuntu inside vmware
[02:55] <stlsaint> Bookman: what distro are you on?
[02:55] <Bookman> Lubuntu
[02:57] <stlsaint> aye, sorry for asking, should have known :D
[02:58] <stlsaint> BWMerlin: are you able to open any applications?
[02:58] <Bookman> No problem.  googling the problem here and there seems to be no way to change the keyboard layout.  At least through a gui application.
[02:58] <stlsaint> Bookman: sorry as im not on my lubuntu install atm,
[02:58] <stlsaint> Bookman: do you have a /etc/default/keyboard config?
[02:59] <BWMerlin> stlsaint: nope, the "start" meny has run and logout
[02:59] <BWMerlin> i cant open chrome
[03:00] <BWMerlin> and my home folders has a read me telling me to set up home folder encryption and the file i am suppose to run to set it up
[03:00] <Bookman> stlsaint, nope, no /etc/default/keyboard
[03:00] <BWMerlin> i cant run the file and i cant access a terminal promot
[03:00] <stlsaint> BWMerlin: that sounds like a faulty install
[03:00] <BWMerlin> ooo
[03:00] <BWMerlin> ok
[03:01] <BWMerlin> reinstall it is
[03:01] <phillw> Bookman: there is a new lxkeymap coming out, it's only available in the development ppa at the moment. please be patient :)
[03:01] <stlsaint> phillw: can the keyboard layout be changed in the control center?
[03:02] <Bookman> phillw, no worries at all!
[03:02] <phillw> stlsaint: not at present, it can be done via CLI, but I've long since forgotten how to do it. with lxkeymap it will be a gui
[03:03] <stlsaint> Bookman: yes the keymap can be changed via cli
[03:03] <Bookman> setxkbmap
[03:04] <Bookman> But I can put up with no volume keys until the lxkeymap is ready!
[03:06] <phillw> Bookman: it's in the ppa for 11.04 lubuntu is now in the 'tweaking' things stage of its young existance, and paper-cuts are a real PITA
[03:06] <stlsaint> Bookman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[03:09] <phillw> Bookman: http://pastebin.com/PxBQu9vN
[03:10]  * phillw just takes me a while to dig through the archived email stuff :)
[03:13] <BWMerlin> this is the second time I have noticed this, but the choose your location map is very laggy
[03:14] <Bookman> phillw, I'm not sure I understand what you are showing me there.
[03:14] <Bookman> stlsaint, Nice, but I don't see my keyboard config in there.  Compaq R4000 laptop.
[03:24] <Bookman> phillw, is there a ppa that I should be adding?  I don't mind testing versions.  This is my play laptop!
[03:26] <phillw> Bookman: before you add a ppa, can you add https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#ppa-purge
[03:27] <stlsaint> phillw: hey i meant to ask you about that, there is a ppa-purge on webupd8, is there a difference between the lubuntu ppa and the one on webup8?
[03:28] <stlsaint> phillw: oh, this seems to be a lubuntu specific ppa, where is this ppa hosted at?
[03:29] <Bookman> phillw, so I should purge first?
[03:29] <phillw> stlsaint: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
[03:30] <stlsaint> oh never mind
[03:30] <stlsaint> Bookman: no, only purge after you have added a ppa that has caused a issue with your system
[03:33] <Bookman> phillw, sorry, but a little confused.  You are asking me to add a purge?
[03:34] <stlsaint> Bookman: did you read the wiki page?
[03:35] <stlsaint> Bookman: the purge application is only used when a ppa causes issues with system
[03:35] <Bookman> stlsaint, yes, I understood that.  Just a little confused over phillw last message to me. "before you add a ppa, can you add https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#ppa-purge"
[03:36] <Bookman> How do I add a purge?
[03:36] <phillw> Bookman: having ppa purge on BEFORE you need it is a good idea :)
[03:36] <Bookman> Ah, got it now!
[03:37] <Bookman> (sorry, easily confused sometimes)
[03:38] <Bookman> purge installed
[03:40] <BWMerlin> i think my ubuntu install borked again
[03:40] <BWMerlin> its been saying that system is shutting down for 10 mins now
[03:40] <stlsaint> BWMerlin: in vm still?
[03:41] <BWMerlin> yep
[03:42] <stlsaint> BWMerlin: just reset the machine and boot into it again
[03:46] <Bookman> phillw, Ok, purge installed.  Is there a testing ppa now?
[03:47] <phillw> Bookman: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
[03:53] <Bookman> phillw, excellent, thanks.
[03:55] <Bookman> phillw, I see that it supports languages, but not layouts.
[03:56] <phillw> Bookman: it's still a developement ppa :)
[03:56] <Bookman> Good progress though !
[03:57] <Bookman> Man, I just love how my laptop runs so cool with Lubuntu compared to Ubuntu.  I think I'll install it on my wife's machine tonight
[03:57] <phillw> Bookman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved do get registered and chip in, it's not a mailing list that will send you 100's of mails a day.
[03:59] <Bookman> phillw, I guess it is about time that I did!
[04:01] <Bookman> hey, I have the wife's machince but it does not have a working cd drive anymore.  Is there a way to install Lunbuntu on it?
[04:02] <phillw> an external usb cd drive?
[04:02] <Bookman> damn, left it at work....
[04:02] <Bookman> Ubuntu causes that machine to run so hot.
[04:02] <phillw> if the computer can boot from usb stick then you can make one of those.
[04:03] <Bookman> Yeah, I don't have one of those either!
[04:03] <phillw> Bookman: then you're like a turkey at Christmas .... stuffed :P
[04:04] <Bookman> hahaha, yeah, I thought so.
[04:04] <phillw> Bookman: you can install lubuntu and remove gnome if it has internet access
[04:06] <phillw> Bookman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors
[04:06] <phillw> Bookman: we're nice like that :)
[04:06] <Bookman> Holy, you are just full of info!
[05:11] <BWMerlin> gah
[05:12] <BWMerlin> lubuntu is broken again
[05:12] <BWMerlin> im starting to think the way im installing it has something to do with it
[05:36] <phillw> BWMerlin: have you run the self test on the CD?
[05:36] <BWMerlin> im using the iso
[05:36] <BWMerlin> but i can run that i guess
[05:38] <BWMerlin> ok the cd check said no errors
[05:43] <phillw> BWMerlin: if it is not installing correctly, you may need to clean the cd drive lens, If you can get hold of one - Clean the CD drive with a CD-Drive cleansing CD, burning an ISO CD requires far greater precision than burning, say, a music CD. ( just type in cd lens cleaner into your favourite search engine, they can be bought for about 3 USD / 1 GBP)
[05:44] <BWMerlin> phillw: maybe i should of said earlier this is all inside vmware so im just using the iso no need to burn it
[05:44] <phillw> as there are two leds on a cd/rw drive, it is possible one of them is a bit dirty.
[05:45] <phillw> BWMerlin: I have no knowledge of vmware, sorry.
[05:46] <BWMerlin> it installs
[05:46] <phillw> BWMerlin: you can ask on #ubuntu-beginners one of the people on there may be familiar with vmware.
[05:46] <BWMerlin> but i dont get a populated "start" menu
[05:46] <BWMerlin> and nothing runs
[05:46] <BWMerlin> i can open my home folder and see the readme about encrypting my drive and the file i need to run to do it but it doesnt run
[05:46] <BWMerlin> and i cant open anyting
[05:46] <phillw> have you md5'd the iso?
[05:47] <BWMerlin> nope will do that now
[05:48] <phillw> although if the self test reports okay, it should be okay.
[05:51] <BWMerlin> where can i find the lubuntu md5 sum?
[05:53] <BWMerlin> ok the sums work out
[05:56] <phillw> BWMerlin: if the md5 is okay (which is suspected it would) it is a VMware issue, I'm sorry but I have no experience of it. see if any one on  #ubuntu-beginners has experience with using it.
[05:57] <BWMerlin> im going to try something
[05:58] <BWMerlin> im thinking that 3 things might be messing it up
[05:58] <BWMerlin> im going to try installing it without home folder encryption, not getting updates and not using 3rd party drivers
[05:59] <phillw> BWMerlin: it's always wise to resort to basics if you are having a problem :)
[05:59] <BWMerlin> being a vm its easy to spin up a new one
[06:21] <BWMerlin> phillw: this is looking much better
[06:22] <BWMerlin> one of those three things (or possibly all of them together) screwed up my install
[10:38] <leszek> hi
[10:46] <bioterror> hi leszek
[20:09] <annihilator> is there a 64bit version of lubuntu?  if not can i get the same effect if i install cmdline ubuntu and then aptget the lxde desktop? and get the same distro package?
[20:11] <bioterror> install mini.iso 64bit
[20:11] <bioterror> and then lubuntu
[20:14] <phillw> annihilator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall covers using the 64bit kernel.
[20:14] <bioterror> take the 10.10 64bit ;)
[20:14] <annihilator> thx
[20:24] <annihilator> phillw: doing the instructions you gave me does that will allow me to run 64bit programs? under the lxde desktop?
[20:25] <annihilator> and i have another question does linux support sharememory videocards?
[20:25] <annihilator> lubuntu to be specific of course
[20:25] <phillw> all the programmes are cross compiled in both 32 and 64 bit, it will pull in the 64 bit versions.
[20:26] <phillw> annihilator: I've never heard of those cards, but as the video cards are supported by the kernel and not the desktop environment they should be fine if they work on any flavour of ubuntu.
[20:27] <annihilator> phillw: intel video cards are shared memory
[20:27] <phillw> i have an intel shared memory graphics chip on my laptop, never had a problem :)
[20:27] <annihilator> they use the ram as video memory but i have an nvidia card with 256 dedicated but in windows i can allow it to use the unused portion of my memory in the 32bit version
[20:28] <bioterror> graphics cards which takes memory from computer RAM
[20:28] <bioterror> my laptop has one
[20:28] <annihilator> so i have about 1.5gb of video memory  (256 dedicated and the rest is shared memory) that is why i was asking
[20:28] <phillw> bioterror: ^^ :)
[20:29] <annihilator> cause if i use the 32bit version of (l)ubuntu and get the same effect i will just go down that route
[20:29] <bioterror> you can adjust those from BIOS?
[20:29] <annihilator> no
[20:29] <bioterror> how much ram does the GPU take from RAM
[20:30] <annihilator> it is autocontrolled by bios but i can overide through the nvidia driver
[20:32] <annihilator> it uses 1.5gb of system memory
[20:32] <bioterror> what
[20:32] <annihilator> you asked how much ram my gpu uses
[20:32] <annihilator> it uses 1.5gb
[20:32] <bioterror> :o
[20:32] <annihilator> which gives me a total of 1.791gb
[20:32] <bioterror> my desktop has only 512MB ;)
[20:33] <annihilator> i have 4gb of ram and my nvidia drivers allocates 1gb of system memory between the cpu and gpu as needed
[20:33] <annihilator> the other .5 is added to the 256mb of the gpu
[20:35] <annihilator> but trying to get the same effect in ubuntu might prove difficult but since it is a nividia card i might be able to accomplish that but only if nix supports it
[20:36] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:38] <Goodgame> bonjour
[20:38] <phillw> annihilator: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 is also a great resource.
[20:38] <Goodgame> la commande pour chercher les paquets contenant un mot précis sous ubuntu c'est quoi de nouveau?
[20:38] <phillw> Goodgame: english, please. My french is very poor :)
[20:39] <Goodgame> how shit wrong channel
[20:39] <bioterror> !language
[20:42] <Goodgame> sorry
[20:42] <Goodgame> another question
[20:42] <Goodgame> when I create another virtual desktop it disapears at the reboot, this isn't normal is it?
[20:42] <bioterror> you mean third workspace?
[20:42] <Goodgame> yes
[20:43] <bioterror> nano .config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[20:43] <bioterror>   <desktops>
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[20:44] <bioterror> change that
[20:46] <Goodgame> thanks
[20:46] <Goodgame> gotta reboot to make it ok?
[20:46] <bioterror> log off and log in
[20:47] <bioterror> we're not using windows 95 or 98
[20:47] <bioterror> :;)
[20:47] <Goodgame> another question
[20:48] <Goodgame> what is they keyboard combinaison in chromium to go to the adress bar
[20:48] <bioterror> ctrl+l
[20:48] <bioterror> like in firefox & opera
[20:48] <Goodgame> ok thanks
[20:48] <Goodgame> do you know rhythmbox?
[20:48] <bioterror> yes, but I dont use it
[20:49] <Goodgame> ok
[22:03] <Bookman> Has anyone ever installed xPlane on Lubuntu before?
[22:06] <bioterror> nope
[22:06] <bioterror> and it's not in the repos :D
[22:08] <Bookman> I am getting the following:  error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:08] <Bookman> bioterror, I understand it is not in the repos, but I am sure one can install software outside the repos?
[22:13] <Bookman> Ah, it seems to be a fault with Ubuntu distros.  some error with the openal package.....
[22:13] <bioterror> :DDDDDDDDDDDdd
[22:13] <bioterror> works now
[22:13] <bioterror> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0
[22:13] <bioterror> there you go
[22:13] <bioterror> happy gaming
[22:14] <Bookman> Tried that...no go
[22:14] <bioterror> it is a go
[22:14] <bioterror> I can confirm it with my Lubuntu 10.10
[22:14] <Bookman> ln: target `/usr/lib/libopenal.so.0' is not a directory
[22:14] <Bookman> So maybe not all installations are equal?
[22:15] <bioterror> so how about installing some libraries?
[22:15] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install libopenal1
[22:15] <Bookman> Done that
[22:15] <bioterror> then you should have that
[22:15] <Bookman> hmmm....
[22:16] <bioterror> and you have so.1 which you're linking as .01
[22:16] <bioterror> so.0
[22:16] <bioterror> so w00t w00t
[22:16] <bioterror> you cant make 0 from 0
[22:16] <bioterror> right?
[22:16] <Bookman> ?
[22:17] <bioterror> $ ls /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1
[22:17] <bioterror> does that command reply you something
[22:18] <Bookman> Ah, I got you.  I copied from their own website and pasted to terminal.  I now copied what you gave me and it is working.  Thanks!
[22:18] <bioterror> ofcourse it works if I say it ;)
[22:18] <Bookman> There you go!
[22:18] <bioterror> happy downloading
[22:19] <Bookman> Thanks again.  Appreciate the help!
[22:22] <Bookman> Oh, one last thing...how do I change my clock to a 12 hour clock?
[22:23] <bioterror> digital clock settings
[22:23] <bioterror> when you right click it
[22:23] <bioterror> and change clock format to %h:%m%p
[22:23] <bioterror> sorry
[22:24] <Bookman> Does that 'st'?ick
[22:25] <bioterror> damn
[22:25] <bioterror> trying to remember
[22:26] <Bookman> Yeah, that did not work!
[22:26] <bioterror> it's %I:%M%p
[22:26] <Bookman> And it is done!  Thanks yet again.
[22:26] <Bookman> Now, is it 'sticky'?
[22:27] <bioterror> should be
[22:27] <Bookman> Awesome