[14:54] <IrishGeek> Hey, does anyone here know how to bond PPP connections? I've just hit a wall in my project for the young scientist.
[14:57] <IrishGeek> Anyone?
[14:58] <ebel> yo
[14:58] <ebel> sorry i don't know anything about that ☹
[14:58] <IrishGeek> damn. thanks tho
[14:58] <ebel> what are you doing in the young scientist?
[14:59] <IrishGeek> Eirspeed: A fast, reliable connection to the internet using multiple wireless modems networks and technologies
[14:59] <ebel> oh cool, sounds interesting ☺
[15:00] <IrishGeek> if only it werent so damn difficult :(
[15:00] <ebel> slashtom might know a bit about that
[15:00] <tdr112> IrishGeek: are you doing some sort of mesh network
[15:00] <IrishGeek> Trying to bond or gg
[15:00] <IrishGeek> 
[15:00] <IrishGeek> sorry
[15:00] <IrishGeek> trying to bond or aggregate mobile broadband connections
[15:01] <tdr112> i dont get what you are trying to do
[15:01] <IrishGeek> To use the bandwith available on modems from Three, 02 and Vodafone.
[15:02] <IrishGeek> Ie, one connection goes over one interface, next goes over other etc.
[15:02] <IrishGeek> Is this possible?
[15:03] <slashtom> bonding is a good plan
[15:03] <slashtom> where is your end point?
[15:04] <IrishGeek> slashtom: only thing is... mobilebroadband uses Point-to-Point protocol which isn't supported.
[15:04] <tdr112> ie you will have 3 modems and you want to split your traffic over the 3 of them to give you 3X the speed
[15:04] <IrishGeek> tdr112: theoretically yes.
[15:04] <slashtom> you run the PPP over the IP which is setup using PPP
[15:05] <IrishGeek> slashtom: I considered using an instance in Amazon EC2 to route connections
[15:05] <IrishGeek> Any suggestions?
[15:05] <slashtom> pppd?
[15:05] <slashtom> look at ISDN examples
[15:06] <slashtom> that's the world it is born from
[15:06] <IrishGeek> slahtom: pppd is the utility used to setup PPP connections right? I've got all three PPP connections working simultaneously but can't do anything with them
[15:07] <IrishGeek> slahtom: pppd is the utility used to setup PPP connections right? I've got all three PPP connections working simultaneously but can't do anything with them
[15:07] <slashtom> you need to run more PPP tunnels over these connections
[15:07] <IrishGeek> problem is, all three modems use different access numbers, ports, IP's etc
[15:08] <IrishGeek> more PPP tunnels...
[15:08] <slashtom> aye!
[15:08] <slashtom> you can tunnel over tunnels
[15:08] <IrishGeek> right... I'll look into that
[15:09] <IrishGeek> is there no simpler way, like routing packets requested to different interfaces, if you catch my drift?
[15:11] <slashtom> you're making your life difficult
[15:11] <slashtom> tunnelling over tunnels is easier than it sounds
[15:11] <ebel> yeah tunnels on top of tunnels is common]
[15:11] <IrishGeek> ok... so PPP tunnels are. Sorry, is mise Noob
[15:12] <ebel> that's what vpn (for example) is. another tunnel on top of your connection
[15:12]  * slashtom suggests you start looking a howtos on ISDN PPP bonding
[15:13] <IrishGeek> thanks, slashtom. How do I get them all working simultaneously though? Like for increased speeds
[15:15] <IrishGeek> to be honest, I thought bonding would be the simplest solution, then I crashed full speed into a brick wall
[15:20] <slashtom> which was?
[15:20] <IrishGeek> that bonding only works with ethx interfaces, not PPP
[15:23] <IrishGeek> brb
[15:24] <slashtom> bonding must work with pppx interfaces, it was often used in the dailup days
[15:26] <IrishGeek> not with ifenslave, it doesn't
[15:26] <IrishGeek> or does it.......
[15:32] <IrishGeek> slashtom: my problem is that PPP connections fail to appear as interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[15:33] <IrishGeek> so can Ijust add them?
[15:35] <andru> you could scan for network devices
[15:36] <IrishGeek> how, when I do ifconfig, they appear just fine. But not inthe /etc/network/interfaces file
[15:36] <andru> netstat -n
[15:36] <andru> sorry I had to make sure what command it was
[15:37] <IrishGeek> all i get is 5000 lines about bus connections
[15:37] <andru> if you can already see em with ifconfig thats not going to help
[15:37] <andru> am.......
[15:38] <IrishGeek> but not in /etc/network/interfaces...... hmmmmm
[15:39] <andru> I'm sure you would have checked already but here an answer to adding devices to the folder
[15:39] <andru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455513
[15:41] <IrishGeek> hmmmm
[15:53] <slashtom> you don't need them to appear in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:53] <slashtom> but if you like, you can add them in there
[15:53] <slashtom> it's not difficult
[15:54] <slashtom>  /etc/network/interfaces is a config file, not a dynamically generated status file
[16:24] <czajkowski> aloha
[16:25] <slashtom> hello
[16:26] <slashtom> can we take cztab off the twitter ignore now?
[16:34] <czajkowski> :s
[23:37] <infoturtle> guys, where would I pick up a few official Ubuntu cd's?
[23:38] <ShaneM> Probably ubuntu.ie
[23:38] <ShaneM> *.com
[23:38] <ShaneM> Sorry
[23:39] <tdr112> infoturtle: i have about 50 left
[23:39] <tdr112> are you up  in dublin any time
[23:41] <infoturtle> aw ye??! I wanted to take some to the 3 collages in Limerick and set up a stall, give some out and promote the Limerick Ubuntu hour, don't think I will to be honest but if I were to transfer you money for p&p would you be up for sending em?
[23:48] <tdr112> sure i guess so
[23:49] <tdr112> i gave lots out to the dublin colleges
[23:49] <tdr112> and some at a event two weeks ago
[23:50] <infoturtle> did you pay for them, I have a stack of DVD's I'm not using but would it be lame to hand those out? if you not up for that it's cool cos I just had a look at the store and might get some stickers as well so I could just buy some of the CD's
[23:54] <tdr112> nope it was an order i got to give out at en event mark was it cztab got them for me
[23:58] <tdr112> infoturtle: check out redbrick.dcu.ie/~tdr/blog for info about the cds and event i gave them out at
[23:58] <tdr112> infoturtle: i will head into tog tomorrow and see how many i have left and then get back on to you
[23:59] <infoturtle> cool that would be fantastic! thanks