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[01:03] <pmatulis> dragoon123: consider connecting directly to another machine and perform some tests transfers.  this would isolate the LAN itself as part of the problem
[01:04] <dragoon123> pmatulis: I am currently transfering a file FROM the ubuntu server machine to my laptop atm over LAN using http
[01:04] <dragoon123> and its topping out @ 1.1MB/s atm :(
[01:05] <dragoon123> so it has fallen from 1.8MB/s to 1.1MB/s know hrmm
[01:06] <pmatulis> dragoon123: by "direct connection" i mean connecting 2 machines via a cable; no switch or any other networking h/w
[01:06] <dragoon123> pmatulis: okay one moment
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[01:08] <dragoon123> lol
[01:10] <hackeron> ubuntu is making it so hard to file bugs... - I want to report that network-manager is not killing dhclient when switching to a static IP address - how do I do it? :S
[01:12] <stgraber> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+filebug ?
[01:12] <hackeron>  thanks :)
[01:13] <hackeron> this should be mentioned on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[01:17] <Hiiroo> hi anyone awake? :D
[01:17] <hackeron> *yawn* what? who?
[01:17] <Hiiroo> good at this virt stuff?
[01:18] <hackeron> virt stuff?
[01:18] <Hiiroo> using a guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/libvirt.html
[01:18] <Hiiroo> but cant fiure it out
[01:18] <Hiiroo> you kno how it works?
[01:21] <Hiiroo> or it works on one computer but not on my ubuntu server install
[01:22] <hackeron> Hiiroo: hmm, what does it do? - a virtual KVM? - why not just use ssh for terminal and vnc for X?
[01:23] <Hiiroo> yee it is the startup script / setup for a kvm
[01:23] <Hiiroo> and you are supposed to be able to vnc into the machine
[01:24] <hackeron> I thought the whole point of a network KVM is to recover when the machine froze or stuck during boot or something - seems this wouldn't let you do that
[01:25] <dragoon123> pmatulis: I can't get a direct connection setup from win7 to linux lols
[01:25] <pmatulis> hackeron, Hiiroo: you guys are talking about different kinds of "KVM"
[01:25] <hackeron> pmatulis: no, libvirt: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/libvirt.html
[01:25] <dragoon123> This would be 10x eaiser if it were linux & linux
[01:25] <hackeron> I'm not quite getting the point of it, hmmm
[01:26] <Hiiroo> its like vmware
[01:26] <Hiiroo> its not a kvm-switch :D
[01:27] <hackeron> it does hardware emulation?
[01:27] <hackeron> or is it like Xen?
[01:27] <hackeron> if so, why not use Xen, lol
[01:27] <Hiiroo> ubuntus site recommend it and that it is so easy
[01:27] <pmatulis> dragoon123: you'll need to decide whether you want to test *any* kind of network transfer or just a specific protocol.  then maybe i can help
[01:28] <hackeron> Hiiroo: ah, cool - where does it recommend it? - I never heard of libvirt :)
[01:28] <dragoon123> pmatulis: I am just having problems getting an ip assigned for ubuntu
[01:28] <pmatulis> Hiiroo: just ask a specific question and you might get some help
[01:28] <Hiiroo> http://www.ubuntu.com/server/features/virtualisation
[01:28] <dragoon123> I have never setup a direct connection
[01:28] <hackeron> Hiiroo: thanks, I'll play around with it - only used xen so far
[01:29] <Hiiroo> ok, the problem is that the command virt-install hangs before creating the virtual disk on ubuntu server, but in normal ubuntu it works
[01:29] <Hiiroo> I dont know why it hangs
[01:30] <hackeron> anything in dmsg or /var/log/messages - also any log files for virt? -- maybe try virt-install --verbose if that's an option
[01:31] <Hiiroo> I'll check
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[01:32] <Hiiroo> the thing is that this happens on several computers and I cant be the only one using that guide who has this problem but it looks like it
[01:33] <pmatulis> dragoon123: strange.  from memory: 'sudo ip addr add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/xx broadcast + dev ethX'
[01:33] <hackeron> Hiiroo: I never used libvirt, going to check it out now on my ubuntu-server - will report if I'm having the same problem :)
[01:33] <pmatulis> dragoon123: there you are assigning a static address to device ethX (ex: eth0)
[01:33] <Hiiroo> ncie :D
[01:33] <Hiiroo> nice
[01:35] <pmatulis> Hiiroo: i don't use virt-install.  usually vmbuilder or virt-manager
[01:35] <Hiiroo> ok it does the same? I will look at it, thx
[01:35] <pmatulis> Hiiroo: i suggest virt-manager to start
[01:36] <Hiiroo> ok thanks
[01:37] <dragoon123> mur
[01:37] <pmatulis> mur?
[01:37] <dragoon123> I have static setup already, It's just windows 7 wont initialize the connection
[01:38] <Hiiroo> pmatulis, Ok I found a debug flag and got this: ERROR n connection driver available for emu:///system
[01:39] <Hiiroo> is this since there is no x installed on ubuntu server
[01:39] <pmatulis> Hiiroo: no
[01:40] <hackeron> Hiiroo: heh, well, looks like I'm stuck before you: # apt-cache search python-virtinst
[01:40] <hackeron> root@demo:~#
[01:40] <Hiiroo> hackeron, ah had same problem, it doesnt excist
[01:40] <Hiiroo> it is another name
[01:40] <Hiiroo> just do apt-cache search virt-install
[01:40] <hackeron> yeh, someone needs to update the docs
[01:40] <Hiiroo> and you find it
[01:41] <hackeron> what happened to being able to hit edit and fix documntation? :(
[01:42] <pmatulis> hackeron: you are referring to the official documentation.  it's not publicly editable
[01:42] <hackeron> so what happens when it's outdated?
[01:42] <dragoon123> pmatulis: Appearently, I need a cross over cable to do this?
[01:43] <hackeron> or rather it shouldn't be as I'm looking for documentation for the release I'm using, so probably a package update broke it or something
[01:43] <pmatulis> hackeron: what release are you using?
[01:44] <hackeron> pmatulis: 10/10 and looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/libvirt.html
[01:44] <pmatulis> hackeron: so open a bug against 'ubuntu-docs'
[01:45] <hackeron> pmatulis: like this? < http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+filebug
[01:46] <pmatulis> hackeron: yes
[01:47] <pmatulis> dragoon123: only for very old network cards
[01:49] <hackeron> pmatulis: filed, thanks :)
[01:50] <pmatulis> hackeron: bug number?
[01:50] <hackeron> #682261
[01:51] <pmatulis> hackeron: bug #682261
[01:51] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 682261 in ubuntu-docs "10.10/serverguide/C/libvirt.html - package python-virtinst should be virtinst " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682261
[01:51] <pmatulis> hackeron: good
[01:52] <dragoon123> geez
[01:52] <dragoon123> 10 years later, i had to download some dhcp software for windows 7 to fwrd ip to linux
[01:53] <dragoon123> I am getting 9MB/s know
[01:53] <dragoon123> 9-12MB/s not very stable ;s
[01:54] <dragoon123> pmautlis: Do you know what causes RX errors & packets?
[01:57] <pmatulis> dragoon123: could be a number of things
[01:58] <dragoon123> pmautlis: The count error & frame count goes up by around 6-12  every three seconds, total know is 23546
[01:58] <hackeron> dragoon123: bad switch? bad network cable? faulty network controller? overloaded load balancer?
[01:59] <hackeron> also bad driver?
[01:59] <dragoon123> hackeron: probaly bad drive, its a direct connection and I've switched between two cables
[01:59] <dragoon123> hackeron: and on windows its a stable speed
[01:59] <hackeron> cable too long? too much interference along the way (try using shielded cat5/stp)?
[02:00] <hackeron> dragoon123: direct meaning crossover?
[02:00] <hackeron> are you using an actual crossover cable?
[02:00] <Hiiroo> pmatulis, have you ever used virt-* or vmbuilder on a non-x system?
[02:00] <dragoon123> hackeron: I have no idea its just a regular ethernet cable pmatulis asked me to try a direct connection to see if it would resolve my limited network connection speed on host
[02:01] <hackeron> dragoon123: you can't use a direct connection unless you use a crossover cable...
[02:01] <pmatulis> hackeron: wrong
[02:01] <pmatulis> hackeron: all modern interfaces are auto-sensing
[02:01] <Hiiroo> pmatulis, I mean, is it easier to build the virtual machines on a x-system and then move them to the non-x system? I dont get how to install otherwise
[02:02] <patdk-lap> you can't use autosensing on a direct connection
[02:02] <patdk-lap> cause the autosensing method is made for computer -> switch, computer -> computer has matching timings and confuse the hell out of autosense
[02:02] <hackeron> pmatulis: what patdk-lap said
[02:02] <dragoon123> Well I currently have a file transfer going (connected) so...
[02:02] <pmatulis> patdk-lap: i do it all the time
[02:02] <patdk-lap> normally you have to manually set the speed for it to work
[02:02] <dragoon123> How is it working then?
[02:02] <patdk-lap> pmatulis, sometimes it works, but it's more luck, than science
[02:02] <hackeron> dragoon123: I thought you said it isn't :P
[02:03] <pmatulis> patdk-lap: it always works unless i have a very old interface
[02:03] <dragoon123> no, i said i was recieving error and frames
[02:03] <patdk-lap> maybe newer ones have adjusted the detection method to take that into account
[02:03] <dragoon123> and a limited connection speed
[02:03] <hackeron> dragoon123: yeh, try a crossover cable, they'll probably go away :P
[02:03] <patdk-lap> dragoon123, are you sure both sides have the same speed and duplex set?
[02:03] <patdk-lap> or autodetect the same
[02:04] <patdk-lap> that is the issue I normally see, one side goes full duplex 100mbit, and other goes 10mbit half
[02:04] <dragoon123> hackeron: When i have it connected through my router its the same but with limited connection speed
[02:04] <dragoon123> patdk-lap: Its directly connected to my laptop atm, with 100MB/s full duplex
[02:05] <dragoon123> patdk-lap: the file transfer speed is very unstable though 6MB/s - 12MB/s
[02:05] <patdk-lap> on both sides?
[02:05] <dragoon123> yea
[02:05] <patdk-lap> how are you testing transfer speeds?
[02:05] <patdk-lap> from a laptop harddrive?
[02:05] <dragoon123> no
[02:05] <dragoon123> I have a file on the host(ubuntu-server) pc being uploaded to my laptop (windows7) over apache2 (http)
[02:06] <hackeron> lol
[02:06] <patdk-lap> so you have harddrives on both ends, plus the network connection, plus apache, plus firefox? all in the mix there :)
[02:06] <patdk-lap> nice test :)
[02:06] <dragoon123> no firefox
[02:06] <patdk-lap> ie8 :)
[02:06] <dragoon123> no
[02:06] <dragoon123> download manager
[02:06] <hackeron> hahaha :)
[02:06] <hackeron> nice :)
[02:07] <dragoon123> =p
[02:07] <patdk-lap> well, if your getting interface errors
[02:07] <patdk-lap> you have a bad nic, or bad cable
[02:07] <patdk-lap> only possibilities
[02:07] <pmatulis> Hiiroo: you use virt-manager to create the virtual machines
[02:07] <dragoon123> When I reboot the host to windows 8 (its a dual boot machine) the file transfer is stable though
[02:07] <dragoon123> windows 7*
[02:07] <hackeron> patdk-lap: or bad driver?
[02:08] <patdk-lap> hackeron, possible, but not normally likely
[02:08] <hackeron> yep
[02:08] <patdk-lap> what nic is it?
[02:08] <dragoon123> the driver is e100, with port MII TP
[02:08] <patdk-lap> I know the e1000e where having some issues alittle while ago
[02:08] <dragoon123> its some intel NIC i'd have to reboot to win 7 to get the exact name
[02:08] <dragoon123> (100MB/s) max
[02:08] <patdk-lap> never heard of lspci, pci id, ...
[02:09] <patdk-lap> I doubt it's 100MB/s
[02:09] <patdk-lap> e100 caps at 100mbit
[02:09] <dragoon123> er ya that
[02:09] <dragoon123> sorry
[02:09] <dragoon123> 100Mbps
[02:10] <patdk-lap> what ubuntu version?
[02:10] <dragoon123> patdk-lap: they do not return the driver name only the drive fmaily name
[02:10] <dragoon123> Ubuntu-Server 10.10
[02:11] <patdk-lap> dragoon123, lspci returns more info than you know what to do with :)
[02:11] <patdk-lap> it gives you the card id, the pci id (all info about that card is in that id), the driver used for that device
[02:11] <patdk-lap> all specs of the card
[02:12] <dragoon123> patdk-lap: I could only get it to return Intel corporation M10/ICH 7 Family LAN controller..
[02:12] <dragoon123> which is useless
[02:12] <patdk-lap> lspci -v
[02:13] <dragoon123> same thing
[02:13] <dragoon123> just includes Hewllet packard know
[02:13] <dragoon123> Hewlett(*
[02:13] <patdk-lap> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
[02:13] <patdk-lap> 	Kernel driver in use: e1000e
[02:13] <patdk-lap> 	Kernel modules: e1000e
[02:13] <patdk-lap> for my laptop
[02:13] <dragoon123> sec ill pastebin it
[02:16] <dragoon123> http://pastebin.com/0sjCYYEG
[02:16] <patdk-lap> e100 driver
[02:17] <dragoon123> ?
[02:17] <patdk-lap> are you sure your not getting errors or corruption when using windows on it?
[02:18] <dragoon123> hmm
[02:18] <patdk-lap> I have noticed that linux and windows handles packet retries completely different
[02:18] <dragoon123> Well I figured since I had a stable connection on windows no
[02:18] <dragoon123> but should I find a program which can .... show errors i guess?
[02:22] <pmatulis> dragoon123: do you have any other non-windows system to test with?
[02:23] <patdk-lap> ya, could always load the ubuntu desktop live cd, and give it a try
[02:23] <dragoon123> hmm
[02:24] <dragoon123> no cd-drive on host
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[02:27] <dragoon123> Well, anyways I'll load up a bootable usb after since I pretty much know its a router problem
[02:28] <dragoon123> maybe the rx error&frame is just a problem with the ubuntu-server drivers
[02:28] <dragoon123> Thanks for your help all :)
[02:33] <JanC> patdk-lap: e1000e is still having issues BTW, not only "a little while ago"
[02:39] <pmatulis> too bad dragon123 didn't specify the pci id of his card
[02:59] <patdk-lap> janc, ah heh, I hadn't heard anything about it since 10.10 was released :)
[03:01] <JanC> patdk-lap: my 82566DM-2 doesn't want to go higher than 100 Mbit/s, and judging from other bugs on LP some peopel only get 10 or 0 Mbit/s...
[03:01]  * JanC wonders why Intel can't write proper drivers for their own hardware...
[03:03] <patdk-lap> hmm, mine works fine, on 10.04 though, so I haven't used the newer intel driver for the e1000e
[03:04] <patdk-lap> my 10.10 (actually on 11.04 now) only has a e1000 card
[03:29] <JanC> I have that bug on 10.04 & 10.10 (didn't try with older versions yet)
[03:30] <JanC> oh, and with the 2.6.37 kernel too
[03:37] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #530051 in autofs5 (main) "Autofs and semiautomatic credentials" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530051
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[04:02] <_Techie_> for some reason my wget isnt breaking command on ^C
[04:09] <Guest79434> ada orang indonesia dsini?
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[10:05] <twb> What's this "virtio" stuff, and how do I use it?
[10:06] <twb> (re. kvm)
[10:10] <twb> Here we go http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio
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[10:29] <Starhero> Hello can someone please help me, i need to force a fsck on my main ub drive
[10:29] <Starhero> and i am not sure how to do it during boot
[10:30] <Starhero> Oh god don't tell me there are 258 idlers in here...
[10:31] <mrmist> nah there's less than that, you're talking
[10:31] <Starhero> haha
[10:32] <Starhero> Might you know how i could force the server to check all drives (primarly sda...all partitions?)
[10:32] <mrmist> I'm afraid that knowledge escapes me
[10:37] <air^> Starhero: tried googling it? for example http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[10:38] <Starhero> I did but that was nto found
[10:39] <Starhero> I was getting all kinds of thigns so...i figured jsut ask someone
[10:39] <Starhero> I knew that there was like 500000 irc channels for linux period so...I learned a lot through irc about linux but never needed to do this...Thank you for the information
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[12:47] <ph0t0nix> Hi all.
[12:47] <ph0t0nix> I'm having trouble getting my KVM VMs to start after upgrading the real server from 10.04 to 10.10.
[12:47] <ph0t0nix> It seems that apparmor is in the way:
[12:48] <ph0t0nix> error: Failed to start domain krimson
[12:48] <ph0t0nix> error: internal error Process exited while reading console log output: libvir: Security Labeling error : internal error error calling aa_change_profile()
[12:48] <ph0t0nix>  
[12:49] <ph0t0nix> so I disabled libvirtd's profile by making a symlink in /etc/apparmor.d/disable, but now I have permission errors for the LVM LV that contains the file system for the VM.
[12:51] <ph0t0nix> Does anybody have an idea how to fix this (chmod-ing the /dev entries for the LV to a+rw seems to work...)
[12:53] <ikonia> ph0t0nix: that's an intersting issue
[12:53] <ph0t0nix> :-)
[12:53] <ikonia> ph0t0nix: are the lvm errors on the lvm devices or the actual lvm file systems
[12:54] <ph0t0nix> on the devices:
[12:54] <ph0t0nix> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 251, 11 2010-11-28 13:12 /dev/dm-11
[12:54] <ph0t0nix> brw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 251, 12 2010-11-28 13:51 /dev/dm-12
[12:54] <ph0t0nix>  
[12:54] <ph0t0nix> dm-12 is used by a VM that is running now
[12:55] <ph0t0nix> starting a VM with an LV that doesn't have 666 permissions gives:
[12:55] <ikonia> ph0t0nix: should those devices not be in a volume group
[12:55] <ph0t0nix> # virsh start gaffel
[12:55] <ph0t0nix> error: Failed to start domain gaffel
[12:55] <ph0t0nix> error: internal error process exited while connecting to monitor: char device redirected to /dev/pts/3
[12:55] <ph0t0nix> qemu: could not open disk image /dev/raidvg01/gaffel-vm3: Permission denied
[12:56] <ph0t0nix>  
[12:56] <ph0t0nix> # ls -l /dev/raidvg01/gaffel-vm3
[12:56] <ph0t0nix> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2010-11-28 13:12 /dev/raidvg01/gaffel-vm3 -> ../dm-15
[12:56] <ph0t0nix>  
[12:56] <ikonia> ph0t0nix: I wonder if it's as simple as udev rules
[12:56] <ph0t0nix> # ls -l /dev/dm-15
[12:56] <ph0t0nix> brw-rw---- 1 root root 251, 15 2010-11-28 13:12 /dev/dm-15
[12:56] <ph0t0nix>  
[12:56] <ph0t0nix> Notice that virsh has changed the group from disk to root...
[12:57] <ph0t0nix> nice idea about udev. haven't looked into that yet
[13:03] <ph0t0nix> hmm, libvirtd runs as root, but the one VM that's running (with the 666 LV) runs with uid 116, which is libvirt-qemu.
[13:05] <ph0t0nix> that explains the permission error. I'll try to add the libvirt-qemu user to the disk group
[13:06] <ikonia> odd that the upgrade would change this
[13:08] <ph0t0nix> ikonia: true. And adding the user to the disk group doesn't change a thing.. Still Permission denied
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[14:29] <awanti> hi, I want to setup a domain in my office. so any one can guide me how to configure domain for my small office. In my office 40 pc are there (running windows xp) NOW i have to setup a server for that. I chooses Ubuntu Desktop edition. But most people are saying go Ubuntu server edition on #ubuntu chat room.
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[15:12] <meatflag> amanti: what services do you want the server to provide? Samba, DNS, HTTP?
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[16:22] <MrStarbuck83> hi everybody
[16:22] <MrStarbuck83> Can anyone recommend a lightweight ident server?
[16:35] <MrStarbuck83> test
[16:36] <billybigrigger> where does nfs log to?
[16:43] <MrStarbuck83> anybody got this bug too? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-apt/+bug/664514
[16:43] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 664514 in python-apt "Unattended upgrade fails with segmentation fault in Ubuntu Server 10.10" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:43] <MrStarbuck83> Wow
[17:15] <bla_bla> what would be a good easy to use nube email and calendaring server to use/install ?
[17:25] <RoyK> bla_bla: there are several out there, but I landed on zimbra
[17:26] <RoyK> bla_bla: it doesn't come with ubuntu, and it is best run on a dedicated machine or VM
[17:26] <RoyK> bla_bla: a bit on the heavy side, but it works well and all normal administration is done with a web gui
[17:27] <RoyK> bla_bla: so if you have memory enough to run zimbra as a VM, go ahead
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[18:20] <bla_bla> RoyK: my server has 768 mb i think
[18:22] <RoyK> bla_bla: then forget about zimbra - it will need 1GB alone
[18:24] <bla_bla> RoyK: all i want really is a good email program and calendearing service
[18:24] <RoyK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_project_management_software
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[21:52] <teardrop-> how to set wireles password in ubuntu server ?
[22:25] <teardrop-> how to set wireles password in ubuntu server ?
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[23:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #682500 in openssh (main) "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682500
[23:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #682501 in php5 (main) "php5 5.3.3-1 causing segfaults -> 5.3.3-4 backport for maverick?" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682501
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