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Elefant | hi all | 01:03 |
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hwrd | hey does anyone know how to "bash" the cpu of a VPS? Can i still use programs like unix bench or do those not apply becuase of the virualisation? | 01:36 |
penguin42 | hwrd: It still works; not very friendly to the other guys on the host | 01:38 |
hwrd | penguin42: ok, thanks -- they all know i'm going to do it, so it shouldn't be a problem. | 01:44 |
Phineas | i am back at this early hour | 08:15 |
Phineas | suprengr, hello and good morning | 08:38 |
suprengr | hi Phineas | 08:38 |
Phineas | welcome all | 09:54 |
Phineas | well guys i gotta go seeya tomorrow afternoon | 10:09 |
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diplo | afternoon all | 12:06 |
WelshDragon | Afternoon :) | 12:16 |
suprengr | Boo! | 12:26 |
* WelshDragon yelps! | 12:27 | |
kaushal | hi | 12:31 |
kaushal | is https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ searchable ? | 12:31 |
diplo | It's public so can just use google ? if you are looking for something specific ? | 12:33 |
diplo | site: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ <searchterm> | 12:33 |
* suprengr feels the need for a a fried egg sarny coming on | 12:34 | |
WelshDragon | suprengr, with bacon! | 12:36 |
suprengr | ;) | 12:37 |
kaushal | diplo: It did not worked for me | 12:37 |
kaushal | site: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ openvpn | 12:38 |
kaushal | is that correct ? | 12:38 |
WelshDragon | kaushal, Don't put a space after the "site:" :) | 12:39 |
diplo | Hmm seems search query first and site after | 12:39 |
kaushal | ok | 12:39 |
diplo | http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=openvpn+site:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ | 12:39 |
* suprengr takes WelshDragon's adviced & adds bacon to taste bud - yummmm | 12:41 | |
suprengr | *advice | 12:41 |
WelshDragon | Yummy :) | 12:41 |
jacobw | morning/afternoon | 13:04 |
switchgirl | jacobw: any idea how to update my ip address to be correct in terms of goe id/ip | 13:20 |
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jacobw | in word.. | 13:22 |
jacobw | no :p | 13:22 |
daubers_ | Afternoon | 13:52 |
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switchgirl | http://www.youtube.com/v/rgxwTF-qeAo&hl=en_GB&feature=player_embedded&version=3 | 14:10 |
switchgirl | omg the police charged the crowd of peaceful protestors | 14:11 |
suprengr | Wow! they've never done *that* before.... | 14:11 |
* suprengr grins wryfully | 14:12 | |
switchgirl | i am 22 so... no they havent | 14:12 |
suprengr | [i'm 22+... so yes they have] | 14:13 |
Ng | switchgirl: the peaceful protestors who also trashed a police van and threw stuff at the police? ;) | 14:15 |
suprengr | [...& they also stand in front of *real* danger and out their lives at risk] | 14:15 |
suprengr | out=put | 14:15 |
switchgirl | old model plates and equipment removed - odd huh? | 14:15 |
suprengr | ? | 14:16 |
DJones | !ot | switchgirl | 14:16 |
lubotu3 | switchgirl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 14:16 |
switchgirl | DJones: no one talks or answers questions when i ask on topic stuff | 14:17 |
DJones | Thats possibly because there's nobody around, or doesn't know the answer at that time. Please keep offtopic "stuff" away from this channel | 14:18 |
suprengr | switchgirl: need any help while you're here? | 14:22 |
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switchgirl | i was asking about the geo ip fail | 14:27 |
jacobw | protests in this country don't achieve anything | 14:27 |
jacobw | hi popey | 14:27 |
popey | lo jacobw | 14:27 |
switchgirl | the goeip sems to think i am in dundee | 14:27 |
popey | switchgirl: thats something only your isp and the geo/ip provider can fix | 14:28 |
switchgirl | kk | 14:28 |
popey | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.minecraftwiki.net | 14:29 |
popey | :( | 14:29 |
jacobw | my new tomtom wants to be connected to tomtom home to start the 12 month trial of tomtom live services | 14:30 |
popey | yeah, annoying isnt it? | 14:30 |
popey | they don't make a linux client, but the device itself runs linux, and the windows client uses xulrunner! | 14:30 |
jacobw | i don't understand why i can't just register the serial number through the website to start the trial of the live services | 14:30 |
jacobw | ha :( | 14:31 |
jacobw | have you got a tomtom then popey? | 14:31 |
popey | you need a windows pc or a vm unfortunately | 14:31 |
popey | yes | 14:31 |
jacobw | will it work in a vm? that is good news :) | 14:31 |
popey | should do | 14:31 |
jacobw | i suppose if i bridge the USB connection somehow.. | 14:32 |
jacobw | perhaps i should write my findings up on the ubuntu wiki to help similarly challenged people :) | 14:32 |
suprengr | Anyone using the GetDeb repoisitory? Is it a 'safe' thing to do? I may want to upgrade Pidgin to clear msn certificate error (so need 2.7.7). Using 10.04 and currently trying a fix recommended on WebUpd8 / GetDeb first. | 14:33 |
popey | i personally dont trust how-tos on webupd8 | 14:37 |
suprengr | ooops! ;) | 14:44 |
kaushal | suprengr: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ | 14:45 |
suprengr | popey: thanks for that... you might just have saved me big pile of whotsiits! | 14:45 |
suprengr | kaushal: just checking it now | 14:46 |
suprengr | t'internet conxn playing up {at limit of distance from 'borrowed' router] - reboot cures - back soon... | 14:53 |
ubuntuuk-planet | [Martin Meredith] New VPS & Shameless Plug - http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SourceGuru/~3/26403tDNsU0/ | 15:23 |
jacobw | its snowing heavily in Leeds now :) | 15:38 |
shauno | I did the same thing with bitfolk .. really is a handy process | 15:38 |
suprengr | jacobw: Sunday at 07:00 GMT: clear sky. -11°C (12°F) and on turning on the cold tap the water went green! hmm... | 15:39 |
suprengr | ..but no snow ;) | 15:39 |
shauno | not looking forward to walking home .. we've had a sub-zero mist all day. looks pretty, freezes as soon as it hits you. ick. | 15:41 |
suprengr | shauno: wrap up warm, find somewhere warm & comforting on the way... a pub | 15:43 |
shauno | I just make sure to bring a scarf with me. pub isn't much of a refuge; still got a scar from when last time I popped in to see what the local was like | 15:44 |
suprengr | whoops | 15:44 |
jacobw | wow | 15:47 |
domjohnson | Hi - I accidentally removed a few things from the top panel - the volume control and also the system tray - how do I get them back? | 15:50 |
jacobw | right click -> add to panel -> volume control / notification area | 15:51 |
heeed | or try indicator applet for the volume control....strange name to have | 15:52 |
domjohnson | Thanks :) | 15:53 |
JLove_ | Hi, I'm having trouble acccessing ##java, can anybody help (xchat) | 16:20 |
DJones | JLove_: WEha | 16:25 |
czajkowski | aloha | 16:25 |
DJones | What error message do you get? | 16:25 |
czajkowski | danfish: watch the rugby did you :D | 16:25 |
dogmatic69 | hi all, im looking for a way to do chroot for my server, any one know of some links for this? | 16:49 |
jpds | !debootstrap | 17:05 |
lubotu3 | debootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for more information | 17:05 |
penguin42 | debootstrap is wonderful | 17:06 |
dogmatic69 | jpds: thanks, is that the type of thing resellers do? | 17:11 |
dogmatic69 | for hosting | 17:12 |
jpds | dogmatic69: Not sure, sorry. | 17:12 |
AlanBell | dogmatic69: what is your server serving? | 17:13 |
AlanBell | do you want to run an application like apache in a chroot or do you want to do virtual machines? | 17:14 |
dogmatic69 | AlanBell: i would like to set it up so that each "vhost" has a user, that can only access that area of the server, atm if someone has access they have access to pretty much everything | 17:17 |
dogmatic69 | ubuntu10.10 x64 on slicehost is what i have | 17:18 |
AlanBell | dogmatic69: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=229 | 17:22 |
dogmatic69 | AlanBell: cool, thanks that looks good | 17:23 |
dogmatic69 | should i be making apache run as that user.. eg 'joe' or is www-data fine? | 17:24 |
dogmatic69 | because if the php scripts create stuff running as www-data joe will not be able to delete/view/edit them | 17:24 |
AlanBell | an interesting question | 17:25 |
AlanBell | personally I am a bit alergic to having multiple customers on the same VM | 17:25 |
dogmatic69 | well its only my stuff | 17:26 |
dogmatic69 | its just that i have opensource apps that im busy with and need to make it a bit more secure, eg: one of the apps has a filemanager and it was possible to view / | 17:27 |
AlanBell | ah, I see | 17:28 |
dogmatic69 | having that running as a demo on the site is a problem | 17:28 |
AlanBell | in that case I think you need to run the app itself in a chroot, or apache in a chroot | 17:28 |
dogmatic69 | cool, im pretty new to linux so i dont know if im thinking the correct way | 17:28 |
dogmatic69 | ok | 17:28 |
dogmatic69 | so no need for the chroot users, just the app | 17:29 |
AlanBell | yup | 17:36 |
dogmatic69 | ok cool, ill see what google can dig up | 17:41 |
dogmatic69 | AlanBell: im thinking that this should be something in the vhost setup? its hard finding this stuff as google just gives links to people selling hosting | 17:48 |
Azelphur | http://www.linux.fm/ rofl :D | 17:49 |
Azelphur | It reads you the source code for a random file from the kernel, haha | 17:50 |
penguin42 | hmm - it should do something better than reading asterisk asterisk | 17:51 |
penguin42 | switch to a different voice for comments or something | 17:51 |
Azelphur | hehe | 17:52 |
WelshDragon | dogmatic69, you'll still want to chroot the user. Also have a google for suEXEC about running PHP (or any other CGI apps) as the user. Wish i could offer more help but it's been a fair few years since i've ran a webserver. Memory is rusty :( | 18:01 |
dogmatic69 | WelshDragon: thanks, i think im slowly getting there | 18:01 |
dogmatic69 | at least yours is rusty, mines non-existent :P | 18:02 |
WelshDragon | lol | 18:02 |
dogmatic69 | im used to windows and reseller accounts. only been using ubuntu for 3 months or so | 18:02 |
mgdm | I believe the current 'state of the art' for PHP is mod_fastcgi, PHP with FPM, and mod_suexec | 18:03 |
mgdm | if you're on apache, that is. I don't know the details though, I've not set it up - there are howtos though | 18:03 |
dogmatic69 | ye, running apache | 18:03 |
dogmatic69 | i will look into this | 18:03 |
dogmatic69 | im going to start with ip-tables | 18:03 |
dogmatic69 | server has been going 3 days and there is already a million attempted logins :/ | 18:04 |
jpds | dogmatic69: You have locked it down to just SSH key based logins right? | 18:14 |
dogmatic69 | jpds: im not sure, followed some tutorials on slicehost when i joined | 18:15 |
dogmatic69 | how can i check? | 18:15 |
jpds | dogmatic69: ssh -v $YOURSERVER | 18:15 |
jpds | And look for a line like: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey | 18:16 |
dogmatic69 | can anyone run that command? | 18:17 |
dogmatic69 | like i can ssh -v random ip address? | 18:17 |
jpds | Yes. | 18:17 |
dogmatic69 | is that info not a little bit telling | 18:18 |
dogmatic69 | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password | 18:18 |
dogmatic69 | so that is a #fail | 18:18 |
dogmatic69 | :( | 18:18 |
jpds | dogmatic69: Security by obsurity isn't the answer. :) | 18:19 |
dogmatic69 | cool | 18:19 |
jpds | dogmatic69: /etc/ssh/sshd_config → PasswordAuthentication no - if you want to disable passwords. | 18:19 |
dogmatic69 | so i set up the ssh stuff but i dont think it works | 18:20 |
dogmatic69 | i made a alias on my local, like slice = 'user@server' or something and it asks for the pw | 18:20 |
dogmatic69 | i copied something, i think it was .ssh/id_rsa.pub to the server | 18:22 |
dogmatic69 | this tutorial -> http://articles.slicehost.com/2010/10/18/ubuntu-maverick-setup-part-1 | 18:23 |
dogmatic69 | how do i login with no password? | 18:59 |
dogmatic69 | ive added the .pub file to the server and it still asks for a pw | 18:59 |
danfish | evening | 19:02 |
danfish | dogmatic69: you didn't set a password when you generated a keypair right? | 19:03 |
dogmatic69 | danfish: i believe i did | 19:04 |
danfish | from the client, the easiest way to put the key on the server is with ssh-copy-id username@remoteserver | 19:04 |
dogmatic69 | i did scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub demo@123.45.67.890: | 19:05 |
dogmatic69 | with the correct user/ip | 19:05 |
dogmatic69 | then moved it to ~me/.ssh/authorized_keys | 19:05 |
dogmatic69 | chown -R demo:demo ~demo/.ssh | 19:05 |
dogmatic69 | chmod 700 ~demo/.ssh | 19:06 |
dogmatic69 | chmod 600 ~demo/.ssh/authorized_keys | 19:06 |
dogmatic69 | where demo is my user | 19:06 |
dipl0 | +- | 19:06 |
dipl0 | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | 19:06 |
dipl0 | ooer | 19:07 |
danfish | hmm - should work. I would probably 'start again' and 1) regenerate a passwordless local key pair 2) delete the authorized_keys file remotely and 3) ssh-copy-id username@remoteserver | 19:08 |
dogmatic69 | why pwless | 19:08 |
dogmatic69 | i like pw's besides local will remember it so its not needed all the time | 19:09 |
danfish | I thought you wanted passwordless login? | 19:09 |
dogmatic69 | i want the public key login stuff | 19:09 |
dogmatic69 | so this sshd_config should have PasswordAuthentication no | 19:10 |
dogmatic69 | which i changed now, but still says Authentications that can continue: publickey,password and asks for a pw to log in | 19:10 |
dogmatic69 | do you have to restart something after changing /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 19:11 |
dogmatic69 | ah found it /etc/init.d/ssh reload | 19:12 |
dogmatic69 | now it says Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key | 19:12 |
nucc1_ | can one use postfix as an smtp server for one domain, and as a secondary forwarding mail server for a second domain on a single machine? | 20:02 |
mgdm | nucc1_: yeah | 20:06 |
nucc1_ | mgdm, ok, i'll try to find out how that is done. | 20:06 |
daubers | urgh, | 20:10 |
* daubers dislikes writing documentation | 20:10 | |
WelshDragon | Writing documentation soothes the soul | 20:10 |
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dogmatic69 | ok i have finally got ssh login working, but it does not like my .pub key | 20:27 |
dogmatic69 | server is saying Permission denied (publickey). | 20:27 |
daubers | dogmatic69: Try and login with ssh -vv to get a more detailed explaination | 20:29 |
mgdm | usually it means the permissions on /home/user/.ssh or /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys are too permissive | 20:31 |
dogmatic69 | mgdm: what should they be? | 20:31 |
dogmatic69 | its chown'ed to the user login in | 20:32 |
dogmatic69 | and 700 chmod on .ssh | 20:32 |
dogmatic69 | 600 on .ssh/authorized_keys | 20:32 |
mgdm | that should be correct | 20:33 |
mgdm | it's often that; not always, though | 20:34 |
dogmatic69 | i used my .pub file that i use on github | 20:34 |
dogmatic69 | is that ok? | 20:34 |
daubers | Blasted OOo | 20:46 |
AlanBell | daubers: my eldest learned today the importance of save early, save often | 20:48 |
daubers | Hah, hooray for unofficial mirrors | 20:48 |
daubers | AlanBell: Apparently OOo doesn't work with the latest JRE for OSX, and they've taken down the RC that fixes it | 20:48 |
AlanBell | did they do that for a good reason? i.e. does the unofficial mirror version you are looking to install actually kill kittens? | 20:50 |
daubers | AlanBell:No, the new RC is out shortly | 20:50 |
daubers | Did you manage to recover his document? | 20:50 |
AlanBell | hers, but no | 20:50 |
daubers | Ah. not in the backup folder? | 20:50 |
daubers | Or is backup not on? | 20:50 |
AlanBell | she now knows what "discard changes" means | 20:51 |
daubers | (I only discovered that OOo _can_ automatically backup the other day) | 20:51 |
daubers | Oops | 20:51 |
dogmatic69 | danfish: thanks for the ssh-copy-id that worked | 20:54 |
daubers | AlanBell: How goes wooshy whizzy GL slideshows? | 21:00 |
AlanBell | not done much with it yet daubers | 21:02 |
daubers | Ah. I have an out of date copy of the OpenGL Redbook somewhere..... probably useless by now | 21:03 |
daubers | Only thing I did with it was make a 3D solar system with teapots instead of planets | 21:03 |
dutchie | useful | 21:05 |
* dutchie will remember to ask daubers for it if he ever ends up in a teapot universe | 21:05 | |
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AlanBell | first task is to change the red ball into a bitmap of some description | 21:06 |
AlanBell | text would appear to be quite a lot harder than I would have expected | 21:06 |
dutchie | is there not a higher level wrapper? | 21:07 |
mgdm | there are a few | 21:07 |
AlanBell | FTGL seems to be the most appropriate | 21:08 |
AlanBell | but the python wrappers for that are not packaged | 21:08 |
ali1234 | opengl slideshow you say? i've coded many of those... | 21:09 |
ali1234 | doing text in opengl is tricky, there is no real font support built in | 21:10 |
mgdm | last time I looked it involved FreeType and pain | 21:11 |
ali1234 | i like to use webkit to render to a texture, then display that | 21:11 |
mgdm | and most of my interactions with FreeType have had pain | 21:11 |
AlanBell | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/OverView | 21:11 |
ali1234 | but uploading the texture can be slow | 21:11 |
AlanBell | http://prezi.com/laeej1m7xjji/overview-zoomy-presentation-stuff-with-opengl/ this too | 21:12 |
ali1234 | spec is somewhat vague... | 21:17 |
AlanBell | it is | 21:17 |
AlanBell | but only because I don't know what I am doing | 21:17 |
ali1234 | when i need to do something like this i just take out my basic framework and code up the specifics each time | 21:18 |
ali1234 | because coding an app and a gui to make it would take forever | 21:18 |
AlanBell | what framework? | 21:20 |
ali1234 | well the latest version is Qt based | 21:20 |
ali1234 | it displays a series of html snippets over an animated opengl backdrop, with fading | 21:20 |
ali1234 | the snippets are in a SQL database but the animation is hard coded because it's just easier | 21:21 |
gord | if you want to do text on opengl, honestly, use clutter. its text rendering is very good | 21:26 |
gord | basically does it as well as you should do it | 21:26 |
AlanBell | isn't clutter the toolkit that ran out of steam for unity? | 21:33 |
gord | sure, but we do crazy things. unity pushes a lot of boundries and stuff starts breaking when you push those boundries. that does not mean that clutter is a bad toolkit though, its pretty great | 21:35 |
gord | it just doesn't suit the needs of unity | 21:36 |
* TheOpenSourcerer has just been more cunning than the fox at mozilla... | 21:45 | |
dogmatic69 | how do i tell what network interface is being used on the server? | 21:51 |
BigRedS__ | dogmatic69: what do you mean? is only one of them plugged in and you're wondering what that's called? | 22:17 |
BigRedS__ | ifconfig will show all configured interfaces, ones with 'RUNNING' in the summary have a link up | 22:17 |
dogmatic69 | BigRedS__: its cool, figured it out. just reading some stuff and it said make sure about the eth0 | 22:18 |
dogmatic69 | adding rules to iptables | 22:18 |
* AlanBell plays with some cunningness TheOpenSourcerer made | 22:19 | |
mgdm | If I want an ffmpeg that can encode MP3s, do I need to compile it myself? | 22:23 |
* AlanBell declares TheOpenSourcerer to be more cunning than a fox who is professor of cunning at Oxford university | 22:23 | |
AlanBell | !rip | 22:24 |
lubotu3 | For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar | 22:24 |
* bigcalm tapes a slug to AlanBell's upper lip | 22:24 | |
AlanBell | I think you can record to mp3 | 22:24 |
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* TheOpenSourcerer decides, with that compliment from AlanBell, to retire before the cunningness gets too much. | 22:25 | |
mgdm | Sound Juicer is irrelevant, it uses gstreamer | 22:25 |
TheOpenSourcerer | mgdm: I have never had to compile one. | 22:25 |
AlanBell | mgdm: yeah I was just getting to the links | 22:25 |
TheOpenSourcerer | I think it's in the ugly or really ugly package. | 22:26 |
AlanBell | looks like liblame is the mp3 encoding method in the documentation | 22:26 |
TheOpenSourcerer | "I have never had to compile one." that's not quite true, but not on Ubuntu you understand. | 22:27 |
AlanBell | and it looks like your options are uninstall ffmpeg and reinstall from medibuntu or compile it | 22:27 |
mgdm | 'darn' | 22:28 |
mgdm | how inconvenient | 22:28 |
AlanBell | silly Americans and their patent system | 22:28 |
mgdm | s/Americans and their/ | 22:28 |
TheOpenSourcerer | Ubuntu-restricted-extras: | 22:29 |
TheOpenSourcerer | "Installing this package will pull in support for MP3 playback and decoding, support for various other audio formats (GStreamer plug-ins), Microsoft fonts, Java runtime environment, Flash plug-in, LAME (to create compressed audio files), and DVD playback." | 22:29 |
TheOpenSourcerer | http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/lame | 22:32 |
mgdm | aye, still won't replace ffmpeg though | 22:33 |
mgdm | I got around it via lame, though :) | 22:33 |
TheOpenSourcerer | lame works fine. But of course just for learning and experimentation ;-) | 22:33 |
bigcalm | I was going to say. Why not just use lame | 22:33 |
mgdm | bigcalm: because if ffmpeg worked, I could do the entire transcode thing in one shot, rather than having to use intermediate files | 22:34 |
bigcalm | Fair enough | 22:34 |
bigcalm | You may continue | 22:35 |
mgdm | I will recompile it later, just can't be bothered right now | 22:35 |
bigcalm | Sounds like you need a minecraft break | 22:36 |
mgdm | I don't have minecraft, and only barely know what it is | 22:37 |
bigcalm | You should chat with popey ;) | 22:37 |
mgdm | it's a game, I doubt I'll be interested | 22:37 |
nucc1 | no | 23:15 |
nucc1 | erm, wrong channel. | 23:16 |
ubuntuuk-planet | [Tony] Barcamp Southampton - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2010/11/28/barcamp-southampton/ | 23:24 |
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