=== cs278| is now known as cs278 === cs278 is now known as cs278^kinslayer === matti is now known as quux === SuperHark is now known as MichealH [01:03] hi all === undifined_ is now known as UndiFineD [01:36] hey does anyone know how to "bash" the cpu of a VPS? Can i still use programs like unix bench or do those not apply becuase of the virualisation? [01:38] hwrd: It still works; not very friendly to the other guys on the host [01:44] penguin42: ok, thanks -- they all know i'm going to do it, so it shouldn't be a problem. [08:15] i am back at this early hour [08:38] suprengr, hello and good morning [08:38] hi Phineas [09:54] welcome all [10:09] well guys i gotta go seeya tomorrow afternoon === OffTopicGuy is now known as MichealH [12:06] afternoon all [12:16] Afternoon :) [12:26] Boo! [12:27] * WelshDragon yelps! [12:31] hi [12:31] is https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ searchable ? [12:33] It's public so can just use google ? if you are looking for something specific ? [12:33] site: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ [12:34] * suprengr feels the need for a a fried egg sarny coming on [12:36] suprengr, with bacon! [12:37] ;) [12:37] diplo: It did not worked for me [12:38] site: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ openvpn [12:38] is that correct ? [12:39] kaushal, Don't put a space after the "site:" :) [12:39] Hmm seems search query first and site after [12:39] ok [12:39] http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=openvpn+site:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ [12:41] * suprengr takes WelshDragon's adviced & adds bacon to taste bud - yummmm [12:41] *advice [12:41] Yummy :) [13:04] morning/afternoon [13:20] jacobw: any idea how to update my ip address to be correct in terms of goe id/ip === quux is now known as matti [13:22] in word.. [13:22] no :p [13:52] Afternoon === daubers_ is now known as daubers [14:10] http://www.youtube.com/v/rgxwTF-qeAo&hl=en_GB&feature=player_embedded&version=3 [14:11] omg the police charged the crowd of peaceful protestors [14:11] Wow! they've never done *that* before.... [14:12] * suprengr grins wryfully [14:12] i am 22 so... no they havent [14:13] [i'm 22+... so yes they have] [14:15] switchgirl: the peaceful protestors who also trashed a police van and threw stuff at the police? ;) [14:15] [...& they also stand in front of *real* danger and out their lives at risk] [14:15] out=put [14:15] old model plates and equipment removed - odd huh? [14:16] ? [14:16] !ot | switchgirl [14:16] switchgirl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [14:17] DJones: no one talks or answers questions when i ask on topic stuff [14:18] Thats possibly because there's nobody around, or doesn't know the answer at that time. Please keep offtopic "stuff" away from this channel [14:22] switchgirl: need any help while you're here? === popey_ is now known as popey [14:27] i was asking about the geo ip fail [14:27] protests in this country don't achieve anything [14:27] hi popey [14:27] lo jacobw [14:27] the goeip sems to think i am in dundee [14:28] switchgirl: thats something only your isp and the geo/ip provider can fix [14:28] kk [14:29] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.minecraftwiki.net [14:29] :( [14:30] my new tomtom wants to be connected to tomtom home to start the 12 month trial of tomtom live services [14:30] yeah, annoying isnt it? [14:30] they don't make a linux client, but the device itself runs linux, and the windows client uses xulrunner! [14:30] i don't understand why i can't just register the serial number through the website to start the trial of the live services [14:31] ha :( [14:31] have you got a tomtom then popey? [14:31] you need a windows pc or a vm unfortunately [14:31] yes [14:31] will it work in a vm? that is good news :) [14:31] should do [14:32] i suppose if i bridge the USB connection somehow.. [14:32] perhaps i should write my findings up on the ubuntu wiki to help similarly challenged people :) [14:33] Anyone using the GetDeb repoisitory? Is it a 'safe' thing to do? I may want to upgrade Pidgin to clear msn certificate error (so need 2.7.7). Using 10.04 and currently trying a fix recommended on WebUpd8 / GetDeb first. [14:37] i personally dont trust how-tos on webupd8 [14:44] ooops! ;) [14:45] suprengr: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ [14:45] popey: thanks for that... you might just have saved me big pile of whotsiits! [14:46] kaushal: just checking it now [14:53] t'internet conxn playing up {at limit of distance from 'borrowed' router] - reboot cures - back soon... [15:23] [Martin Meredith] New VPS & Shameless Plug - http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SourceGuru/~3/26403tDNsU0/ [15:38] its snowing heavily in Leeds now :) [15:38] I did the same thing with bitfolk .. really is a handy process [15:39] jacobw: Sunday at 07:00 GMT: clear sky. -11°C (12°F) and on turning on the cold tap the water went green! hmm... [15:39] ..but no snow ;) [15:41] not looking forward to walking home .. we've had a sub-zero mist all day. looks pretty, freezes as soon as it hits you. ick. [15:43] shauno: wrap up warm, find somewhere warm & comforting on the way... a pub [15:44] I just make sure to bring a scarf with me. pub isn't much of a refuge; still got a scar from when last time I popped in to see what the local was like [15:44] whoops [15:47] wow [15:50] Hi - I accidentally removed a few things from the top panel - the volume control and also the system tray - how do I get them back? [15:51] right click -> add to panel -> volume control / notification area [15:52] or try indicator applet for the volume control....strange name to have [15:53] Thanks :) [16:20] Hi, I'm having trouble acccessing ##java, can anybody help (xchat) [16:25] JLove_: WEha [16:25] aloha [16:25] What error message do you get? [16:25] danfish: watch the rugby did you :D [16:49] hi all, im looking for a way to do chroot for my server, any one know of some links for this? [17:05] !debootstrap [17:05] debootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for more information [17:06] debootstrap is wonderful [17:11] jpds: thanks, is that the type of thing resellers do? [17:12] for hosting [17:12] dogmatic69: Not sure, sorry. [17:13] dogmatic69: what is your server serving? [17:14] do you want to run an application like apache in a chroot or do you want to do virtual machines? [17:17] AlanBell: i would like to set it up so that each "vhost" has a user, that can only access that area of the server, atm if someone has access they have access to pretty much everything [17:18] ubuntu10.10 x64 on slicehost is what i have [17:22] dogmatic69: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=229 [17:23] AlanBell: cool, thanks that looks good [17:24] should i be making apache run as that user.. eg 'joe' or is www-data fine? [17:24] because if the php scripts create stuff running as www-data joe will not be able to delete/view/edit them [17:25] an interesting question [17:25] personally I am a bit alergic to having multiple customers on the same VM [17:26] well its only my stuff [17:27] its just that i have opensource apps that im busy with and need to make it a bit more secure, eg: one of the apps has a filemanager and it was possible to view / [17:28] ah, I see [17:28] having that running as a demo on the site is a problem [17:28] in that case I think you need to run the app itself in a chroot, or apache in a chroot [17:28] cool, im pretty new to linux so i dont know if im thinking the correct way [17:28] ok [17:29] so no need for the chroot users, just the app [17:36] yup [17:41] ok cool, ill see what google can dig up [17:48] AlanBell: im thinking that this should be something in the vhost setup? its hard finding this stuff as google just gives links to people selling hosting [17:49] http://www.linux.fm/ rofl :D [17:50] It reads you the source code for a random file from the kernel, haha [17:51] hmm - it should do something better than reading asterisk asterisk [17:51] switch to a different voice for comments or something [17:52] hehe [18:01] dogmatic69, you'll still want to chroot the user. Also have a google for suEXEC about running PHP (or any other CGI apps) as the user. Wish i could offer more help but it's been a fair few years since i've ran a webserver. Memory is rusty :( [18:01] WelshDragon: thanks, i think im slowly getting there [18:02] at least yours is rusty, mines non-existent :P [18:02] lol [18:02] im used to windows and reseller accounts. only been using ubuntu for 3 months or so [18:03] I believe the current 'state of the art' for PHP is mod_fastcgi, PHP with FPM, and mod_suexec [18:03] if you're on apache, that is. I don't know the details though, I've not set it up - there are howtos though [18:03] ye, running apache [18:03] i will look into this [18:03] im going to start with ip-tables [18:04] server has been going 3 days and there is already a million attempted logins :/ [18:14] dogmatic69: You have locked it down to just SSH key based logins right? [18:15] jpds: im not sure, followed some tutorials on slicehost when i joined [18:15] how can i check? [18:15] dogmatic69: ssh -v $YOURSERVER [18:16] And look for a line like: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey [18:17] can anyone run that command? [18:17] like i can ssh -v random ip address? [18:17] Yes. [18:18] is that info not a little bit telling [18:18] debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password [18:18] so that is a #fail [18:18] :( [18:19] dogmatic69: Security by obsurity isn't the answer. :) [18:19] cool [18:19] dogmatic69: /etc/ssh/sshd_config → PasswordAuthentication no - if you want to disable passwords. [18:20] so i set up the ssh stuff but i dont think it works [18:20] i made a alias on my local, like slice = 'user@server' or something and it asks for the pw [18:22] i copied something, i think it was .ssh/id_rsa.pub to the server [18:23] this tutorial -> http://articles.slicehost.com/2010/10/18/ubuntu-maverick-setup-part-1 [18:59] how do i login with no password? [18:59] ive added the .pub file to the server and it still asks for a pw [19:02] evening [19:03] dogmatic69: you didn't set a password when you generated a keypair right? [19:04] danfish: i believe i did [19:04] from the client, the easiest way to put the key on the server is with ssh-copy-id username@remoteserver [19:05] i did scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub demo@123.45.67.890: [19:05] with the correct user/ip [19:05] then moved it to ~me/.ssh/authorized_keys [19:05] chown -R demo:demo ~demo/.ssh [19:06] chmod 700 ~demo/.ssh [19:06] chmod 600 ~demo/.ssh/authorized_keys [19:06] where demo is my user [19:06] +- [19:06] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [19:07] ooer [19:08] hmm - should work. I would probably 'start again' and 1) regenerate a passwordless local key pair 2) delete the authorized_keys file remotely and 3) ssh-copy-id username@remoteserver [19:08] why pwless [19:09] i like pw's besides local will remember it so its not needed all the time [19:09] I thought you wanted passwordless login? [19:09] i want the public key login stuff [19:10] so this sshd_config should have PasswordAuthentication no [19:10] which i changed now, but still says Authentications that can continue: publickey,password and asks for a pw to log in [19:11] do you have to restart something after changing /etc/ssh/sshd_config [19:12] ah found it /etc/init.d/ssh reload [19:12] now it says Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key [20:02] can one use postfix as an smtp server for one domain, and as a secondary forwarding mail server for a second domain on a single machine? [20:06] nucc1_: yeah [20:06] mgdm, ok, i'll try to find out how that is done. [20:10] urgh, [20:10] * daubers dislikes writing documentation [20:10] Writing documentation soothes the soul === denny_ is now known as denny === SuperHark is now known as MichealH [20:27] ok i have finally got ssh login working, but it does not like my .pub key [20:27] server is saying Permission denied (publickey). [20:29] dogmatic69: Try and login with ssh -vv to get a more detailed explaination [20:31] usually it means the permissions on /home/user/.ssh or /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys are too permissive [20:31] mgdm: what should they be? [20:32] its chown'ed to the user login in [20:32] and 700 chmod on .ssh [20:32] 600 on .ssh/authorized_keys [20:33] that should be correct [20:34] it's often that; not always, though [20:34] i used my .pub file that i use on github [20:34] is that ok? [20:46] Blasted OOo [20:48] daubers: my eldest learned today the importance of save early, save often [20:48] Hah, hooray for unofficial mirrors [20:48] AlanBell: Apparently OOo doesn't work with the latest JRE for OSX, and they've taken down the RC that fixes it [20:50] did they do that for a good reason? i.e. does the unofficial mirror version you are looking to install actually kill kittens? [20:50] AlanBell:No, the new RC is out shortly [20:50] Did you manage to recover his document? [20:50] hers, but no [20:50] Ah. not in the backup folder? [20:50] Or is backup not on? [20:51] she now knows what "discard changes" means [20:51] (I only discovered that OOo _can_ automatically backup the other day) [20:51] Oops [20:54] danfish: thanks for the ssh-copy-id that worked [21:00] AlanBell: How goes wooshy whizzy GL slideshows? [21:02] not done much with it yet daubers [21:03] Ah. I have an out of date copy of the OpenGL Redbook somewhere..... probably useless by now [21:03] Only thing I did with it was make a 3D solar system with teapots instead of planets [21:05] useful [21:05] * dutchie will remember to ask daubers for it if he ever ends up in a teapot universe === Richie_ is now known as WelshDragon [21:06] first task is to change the red ball into a bitmap of some description [21:06] text would appear to be quite a lot harder than I would have expected [21:07] is there not a higher level wrapper? [21:07] there are a few [21:08] FTGL seems to be the most appropriate [21:08] but the python wrappers for that are not packaged [21:09] opengl slideshow you say? i've coded many of those... [21:10] doing text in opengl is tricky, there is no real font support built in [21:11] last time I looked it involved FreeType and pain [21:11] i like to use webkit to render to a texture, then display that [21:11] and most of my interactions with FreeType have had pain [21:11] http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/OverView [21:11] but uploading the texture can be slow [21:12] http://prezi.com/laeej1m7xjji/overview-zoomy-presentation-stuff-with-opengl/ this too [21:17] spec is somewhat vague... [21:17] it is [21:17] but only because I don't know what I am doing [21:18] when i need to do something like this i just take out my basic framework and code up the specifics each time [21:18] because coding an app and a gui to make it would take forever [21:20] what framework? [21:20] well the latest version is Qt based [21:20] it displays a series of html snippets over an animated opengl backdrop, with fading [21:21] the snippets are in a SQL database but the animation is hard coded because it's just easier [21:26] if you want to do text on opengl, honestly, use clutter. its text rendering is very good [21:26] basically does it as well as you should do it [21:33] isn't clutter the toolkit that ran out of steam for unity? [21:35] sure, but we do crazy things. unity pushes a lot of boundries and stuff starts breaking when you push those boundries. that does not mean that clutter is a bad toolkit though, its pretty great [21:36] it just doesn't suit the needs of unity [21:45] * TheOpenSourcerer has just been more cunning than the fox at mozilla... [21:51] how do i tell what network interface is being used on the server? [22:17] dogmatic69: what do you mean? is only one of them plugged in and you're wondering what that's called? [22:17] ifconfig will show all configured interfaces, ones with 'RUNNING' in the summary have a link up [22:18] BigRedS__: its cool, figured it out. just reading some stuff and it said make sure about the eth0 [22:18] adding rules to iptables [22:19] * AlanBell plays with some cunningness TheOpenSourcerer made [22:23] If I want an ffmpeg that can encode MP3s, do I need to compile it myself? [22:23] * AlanBell declares TheOpenSourcerer to be more cunning than a fox who is professor of cunning at Oxford university [22:24] !rip [22:24] For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar [22:24] * bigcalm tapes a slug to AlanBell's upper lip [22:24] I think you can record to mp3 === nucc1_ is now known as nucc1 [22:25] * TheOpenSourcerer decides, with that compliment from AlanBell, to retire before the cunningness gets too much. [22:25] Sound Juicer is irrelevant, it uses gstreamer [22:25] mgdm: I have never had to compile one. [22:25] mgdm: yeah I was just getting to the links [22:26] I think it's in the ugly or really ugly package. [22:26] looks like liblame is the mp3 encoding method in the documentation [22:27] "I have never had to compile one." that's not quite true, but not on Ubuntu you understand. [22:27] and it looks like your options are uninstall ffmpeg and reinstall from medibuntu or compile it [22:28] 'darn' [22:28] how inconvenient [22:28] silly Americans and their patent system [22:28] s/Americans and their/ [22:29] Ubuntu-restricted-extras: [22:29] "Installing this package will pull in support for MP3 playback and decoding, support for various other audio formats (GStreamer plug-ins), Microsoft fonts, Java runtime environment, Flash plug-in, LAME (to create compressed audio files), and DVD playback." [22:32] http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/lame [22:33] aye, still won't replace ffmpeg though [22:33] I got around it via lame, though :) [22:33] lame works fine. But of course just for learning and experimentation ;-) [22:33] I was going to say. Why not just use lame [22:34] bigcalm: because if ffmpeg worked, I could do the entire transcode thing in one shot, rather than having to use intermediate files [22:34] Fair enough [22:35] You may continue [22:35] I will recompile it later, just can't be bothered right now [22:36] Sounds like you need a minecraft break [22:37] I don't have minecraft, and only barely know what it is [22:37] You should chat with popey ;) [22:37] it's a game, I doubt I'll be interested [23:15] no [23:16] erm, wrong channel. [23:24] [Tony] Barcamp Southampton - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2010/11/28/barcamp-southampton/