[00:36] hey mac9416 [00:45] Hey, cyberanger, wrst! Sorry, I was afk. [00:45] How're y'all? [00:46] good mac9416 how have things been going for you? [00:46] Pretty good, even though I just upgraded an offline machine from an alternate CD and screwed it up royally. [00:47] But this apple cider sure tastes fine. :-) [00:47] And a bug I reported two months ago just got some attention. [00:48] well that is good what bug? [00:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/653293 [00:52] bbiab [00:53] oh goodness mac9416 i had noticed that glad you thought to file a bug! [01:14] my T-Mobile G2 is awesome, has been rooted for a few weeks, with cyanogenmod installed right after, and now it's sim subsidy lock is removed, woo hoo yes! [01:15] congrats cyberanger, even though i have no clue what you just said [01:15] and thanks to connectbot or andchat (I choose connectbot) I'm able to share this news with you all [01:16] * cyberanger wishes he had a spare android phone to hand wrst to let him enjoy some city tech in the boondocks [01:17] mac9416: so to answer your question in one word, Sweet [01:17] wrst: android is linux (very oversimplified) rooting (getting root on an android) isn't as simple as sudo [01:18] i wish you had an android phone to hand me also, i've been on the hunt for one eventually i will get one just because of it being linux open more or less etc etc [01:18] and (oh, this one's gonna burn a little) installing cyanogenmod is like going from ubuntu to crunchbang, much faster [01:20] the last part isn't as simple to explain, luckily I just switched to my desktop now, so I'm not all thumbs [01:21] T-Mobile, AT&T, and many other carriers in other countries (and smaller ones here) use GSM [01:23] the phones are all (oversimplified) the same, switching service is as easy as taking a plastic chip that comes with the phone (this is the sim card) and sticking it in the phone [01:25] but the two big carriers here (and others too) pay for the phones full price, with a sim lock (T-Mobile uses the term SIM Subsidy lock, there are more than one kind of sim locks, but I've only ever seen a subsidy lock in use) [01:25] and you get it cheaper, becuase part of the phone cost is in the phone bill [01:26] that lock prevents me from using it with anyone but the carrier I bought the phone from, till it's unlocked, which in my case is today [01:26] wrst: make sense? [01:27] ha ha yes [01:33] this will be useful some point in 2011 (forget back to the future, I'm heading back to canada. (I hate being a tourist, but I don't mind visiting an intresting place) [01:33] ) [01:34] four phones I own are unlocked now, gotta see about a 5th [01:35] well cyberanger i'm about to see if i can get natty to install again... yesterday was not such a good attempt === wesley is now known as wrst_wee === wrst_wee is now known as wrst_natty === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [01:55] wrst: what went wrong [01:56] wrst_natty: what went wrong [01:56] what went wrong, your CLI usage seems right ;-) [02:00] * cyberanger thinks he just came up with something clevar, must try it [02:01] cyberanger: never would boot yesterday [02:01] tried todays daily image and there is unity... sorta but making progress, i think :) [02:03] well i'm signing off cyberanger while this is installing [02:06] wrst_natty: maybe using a netisnt would help [02:07] and see you later (with weechat I hope, where's quassel ;-)) [03:03] wb excid3 [03:13] hey cyberanger [03:13] irccloud just didn't reconnect to all my channels [03:15] all? what ones did it not miss ;-) [03:20] excid3: ^ it sounds like a good service, but that sounds like a bad glitch === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [21:59] * wrst yawns [22:03] * wrst pokes cyberanger to see if he is still alive