[09:18] <AlanBell> So I am coming to a better understanding of the issues with the various web properties now
[09:19] <AlanBell> The design guidelines for the web seem to be the authoritative document, not the brand guidelines
[09:19] <AlanBell> and they make no mention of accessibility whatsoever and have a lot of the main issues baked in
[09:20] <AlanBell> like the teeny 12px font size and grey-on-grey text and even the amazingly unreadable http://www.ubuntu.com/server/features/reduce-costs
[09:21] <AlanBell> plus the 960.gs stuff that means the websites get 500px margins on my monitor
[09:22] <AlanBell> what I didn't know up to yesterday was that website design is nothing to do with the website team
[09:24] <AlanBell> which is why I have been filing bugs, fixing them, offering merges and hitting the "patches not welcome" problems
[09:39] <AlanBell> I think from now we will do more emails to the list directed at the design team members who set the ball rolling on this to try and get them involved
[09:39] <AlanBell> I might try and get a meeting with them in Millbank too
[09:41] <AlanBell> I would like to revist the discussion around bug 671122
[09:41] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 671122 in ubuntu-website "install an accessible wiki theme (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671122
[09:42] <AlanBell> if we can get a theme installed with accessible features I can then make it follow the Ubuntu brand guidelines (not the web guidelines)
[09:42] <AlanBell> or agreement that if I do that, it will get installed.
[11:57] <l3on> Hi all.. does someone of you know where I can find this accessibility icon? → http://pricklytech.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/ubuntu-boot-01.png
[12:13] <AlanBell> it is basically the gnome accessibility icon http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/
[12:28] <l3on> AlanBell: thanks, #u-artwork know the right answer :D
[12:28] <l3on> *in #u-art....
[12:32] <AlanBell> does the icon exist somewhere then?
[12:32] <AlanBell> (other than on someone's macbook)
[12:36] <l3on> AlanBell: <coz_> l3on,  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/accessibility.svg
[13:58] <AlanBell> I have done something wrong with https://code.launchpad.net/~alanbell/loco-directory/lp650647/+merge/42041
[13:58] <AlanBell> I did a bzr pull on my local loco-directory and it pulled version 333 which is the latest in trunk
[13:59] <AlanBell> updated two lines in one file and pushed to a new branch under my name and did a merge request
[13:59] <AlanBell> why on earth is the merge request doing 1471 lines of stuff I have never touched?
[21:45] <mhall119> AlanBell: did you change whitespaces or line endings?
[21:45] <mhall119> or update the translation template?
[21:45] <AlanBell> nope
[21:45] <AlanBell> nope
[21:46] <AlanBell> did a bzr pull, confirmed the version it pulled to was 333 then edited the files using nano
[21:46] <AlanBell> did a commit, noted that it only updated the file I had updated the pushed to launchpad
[21:46] <mhall119> AlanBell: um, was your branch based on lp:loco-directory?
[21:47] <mhall119> AlanBell: looks like your branch is from lp:ubuntu-website/light-django-theme
[21:47] <mhall119> you can't merge that into lp:loco-directory
[21:48] <AlanBell> ahh
[21:49] <AlanBell> I will check, that would certainly explain the level of differences
[21:49] <AlanBell> I think it automatically selected the thing to merge with though
[21:51] <mhall119> it should auto-select that based on what the proposed branch was based on
[21:51] <mhall119> wait no, it does that based on the proposed branch's name
[21:52] <mhall119> so lp:~alanbell/loco-directory/foo will default to loco-directory
[21:52] <mhall119> while lp:~alanbell/ubuntu-website/foo will default to one of the ubuntu-website ones
[21:53] <AlanBell> ah ok
[22:00] <AlanBell> dammit, figured out what the issue is now!
[22:01] <AlanBell> loco directory includes ubuntu_website under it
[22:02] <AlanBell> which is light-django-theme
[22:03] <AlanBell> so bug 650647 is technically invalid in loco-directory
[22:03] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 650647 in ubuntu-website (and 1 other project) "Check the footer color (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650647
[22:58] <cjohnston> AlanBell: the bug was initially against LD, and them upstreamed to ubuntu-website
[23:02] <cjohnston> AlanBell: I think this is the one you uploaded earlier.. if so, could you please delete it? https://code.launchpad.net/~alanbell/loco-directory/footerfix
[23:08] <AlanBell> done
[23:10] <cjohnston> ty sir
[23:10] <AlanBell> I am going through the accessibiilty bugs and fixing everything I am going to be allowed to fix, or untagging it as accesibilty if it just a random thing breaking
[23:10] <cjohnston> LD or?
[23:12] <cjohnston> off to work
[23:12] <AlanBell> ubuntu-website, but I will fix any I find anywhere
[23:12] <cjohnston> ok
[23:12] <cjohnston> cya
[23:12] <AlanBell> o/
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