[00:00] <yofel> walkkenn: also define 'unmounted' - there is a filesystem on it or do you mean unpartitioned space?
[00:01] <walkkenn> file system ext4
[00:01] <walkkenn> I can change that
[00:01] <thewrath> is that for /home or for what
[00:02] <yofel> walkkenn: well, it's obviously not mounted, so how is the space called? is that another partition?
[00:02] <paultag> thewrath, humm?
[00:02] <GrafeX> hmm i got maybe not so simple question.. but should be one -- anyone played with vm appliance of openvpn? I got a fresh install thats tossing a filesystem error on boot
[00:02] <walkkenn> there is no label
[00:03] <paultag> thewrath, I'm just running to the shower, but for the UBT you need a wiki and lp. we chat in ubuntu-beginners-team, this is a help channel
[00:03] <paultag> thewrath, brb
[00:03] <yofel> walkkenn: or wait, you probably mean sda1 from how you listed it, what's on there currently?
[00:03] <thewrath> paultag, all right
[00:03] <yofel> walkkenn: and 'fdisk -l' really would help
[00:05] <walkkenn> I get no response from that command
[00:05] <yofel> walkkenn: I told you before to use it with sudo...
[00:06] <yeedl> any way to configure a shortcut in ubuntu to load a run dialog since the altf2 doesnt seem to be workin?
[00:07] <yofel> yeedl: can you check your keyboard shortcuts? that really should work
[00:08] <walkkenn> Sorry, I typed fdisk -l behind the prompt and nothing came up
[00:08] <yofel> not sure where you set those in gnome
[00:08] <yofel> walkkenn: type in a terminal: 'sudo fdisk -l' that should give you something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537652/ (after you input your password)
[00:09] <UndiFineD> yeedl, can you right-click a panel, + add to panel, "Run Application..."
[00:09] <UndiFineD> that is an applet which does exactly the same
[00:10] <yeedl> i think its cuz i am using ubuntu netbook 10.10
[00:11] <walkkenn> done
[00:13] <yofel> walkkenn: can you put the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link?
[00:13] <yofel> please
[00:14] <yeedl> undifined, i dont have any ability to add a panel doing that in unity
[00:15] <yeedl> and yofel, the kb shortcut is configured, but since i dont have any real "panel" i dont have a run application dialog box
[00:15] <walkkenn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/537656/
[00:15] <yofel> ah, haven't used unity yet
[00:15] <UndiFineD> hmmmm
[00:17] <yeedl> yea
[00:17] <yeedl> this unity thing is killin me but i dont think with the netbook remix i can switch out of it.
[00:17] <yeedl> i also assume there is no way to downgrade to 10.04? :-/
[00:18] <thewrath> not easily
[00:19] <yeedl> argh
[00:19] <UndiFineD> or, upgrade to 10.10
[00:19] <yofel> unity is 10.10 netbook
[00:19] <UndiFineD> at login you can select UNE or Ubuntu Desktop
[00:19] <yofel> (or 11.04 default, but that's pretty adventurous currently)
[00:20] <yeedl> i dont get an option for ubuntu desktop, i dont think
[00:23] <yofel> walkkenn: sorry, got distracted, so... you wanted to add space to /home or what was your origial intention?
[00:28] <walkkenn> Well, I only work on the computer.  The most extravagant thing I got is WindowsXP in a Virtualbox, but, I mostly use the computer as a work tool.  /home is where you store things like music download, etc.
[00:28] <walkkenn> That's a question???
[00:29] <walkkenn> So I'm trying to loosen up more space to store things like that.  Do I have that right?
[00:31] <yofel> yes /home is for your user files (/home/<username> actually) form what I see you have a compaq partition, a windows partition, an unused linux partition, and your current ubuntu setup
[00:31] <walkkenn> Thanks for all your help
[00:31] <yofel> s/form/from/
[00:33] <yofel> walkkenn: so if I understand you right you want to add the unused linux partition (sda4) to /home? (sda7)
[00:33] <walkkenn> right
[00:35] <yofel> hm, that's not possible from a partition point of view, they would have to be beside each other (or you would have to use LVM - but forget that for now), what you *can* do is add a folder in your home directory and mount the partition there, ~/data for example
[00:36] <thewrath> walkkenn, what i would probably do is this.... use /home/music for your music
[00:36] <thewrath> i am not sure what you are adding the space for if it is for 100% for music there you go
[00:38] <walkkenn> That's fine.  As long as ubuntu can see it and use it
[00:42] <walkkenn> So how do I do that?
[00:43] <yofel> walkkenn: if you keep it as a seperate partition I would put it in /media, nautilus will see it there. To use it run 'sudo mkdir /media/data' and then add a new line with '/dev/sda4 /media/data ext4 defaults 0 0' to your /etc/fstab (be carefull not to change existig entries)
[00:43] <yofel> after that run 'sudo mount /media/data' and it will be mounted, since you added the fstab line it will be automounted on boot
[00:45] <yofel> then you'll have to give yourself permissions to use the drive, do that with 'sudo chown <your_user_name> /media/data' where your_user_name is your login name
[00:47] <yofel> 'sudo chown yofel /media/data' for example using my name
[00:47] <walkkenn> OK, I just ran the first line sudo mkdir /media/data and what do I write next?
[00:48] <yofel> walkkenn: k, now run 'gksudo gedit /etc/fstab', now careful:
[00:48] <yofel> add a new line with the following contents:
[00:48] <yofel> /dev/sda4 /media/data ext4 defaults 0 0
[00:48] <yofel> and make sure not to change anything else
[00:54] <yofel> walkkenn: still there?
[00:54] <walkkenn> still there
[00:55] <yofel> k, if you have your fstab entry, test it with 'sudo mount /media/data', if it doesn't print anything, 'df' will show the driver as mounted
[00:55] <yofel> (save your fstab first)
[00:56] <yofel> *drive, not driver :/
[00:56] <walkkenn> you mean just go to the bottom of all that and add #/dev/sda4 /media/data ext4 defaults 0 0
[00:58] <yofel> walkkenn: yes, (without the #)
[01:15] <thewrath> welcome back walkkenn
[01:16] <walkkenn> I didn't know I went anywhere
[01:18] <thewrath> <-- walkkenn has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
[01:18] <thewrath> <-- yeedl has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
[01:18] <thewrath> --> walkkenn (~walkkenn@user-11207hr.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #ubuntu-beginners
[01:19] <walkkenn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/537681/  that's what I got after running sudo mount /media/data
[01:20] <yofel> walkkenn: that says it's already mounted (did you try to mount it twice?)
[01:21] <walkkenn> I don't think so.  Will it work?
[01:21] <yofel> that should be fine, can you now run 'sudo chown walkkenn:walkkenn /media/data' to make sure user and group are set to you? (replace walkkenn with your pc username)
[01:22] <yofel> after that you should be able to put files in there
[01:23] <walkkenn> What's a PC user name?
[01:23] <walkkenn> Where do I find that?
[01:24] <yofel> walkkenn: I meant your login name sorry
[01:24] <walkkenn> that's it
[01:24] <yofel> or more specific, what 'echo $USER' would give you
[01:24] <walkkenn> I didn't get anything from that.  Is that normal?
[01:24] <yofel> yes
[01:24] <walkkenn> How can I test it?
[01:25] <yofel> walkkenn: just to be sure, can you post what 'ls -ld /media/data' prints?
[01:27] <walkkenn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/537683/
[01:27] <yofel> looks fine
[01:28] <walkkenn> Thanks for your help, really appreciate it!
[01:46] <thewrath> hey zkriesse
[01:46] <thewrath> hey ridin
[01:47] <zkriesse> yes thewrath ?
[01:47] <thewrath> just saying hello
[01:48] <zkriesse> k
[02:25] <ridin> hi
[02:30] <bobbyj_> Hey all is there a program for ati all in wonder card?
[03:02] <joe1234> how do i install windows 7 os on ubuntu? it's saids the partitioning is wrong and that it needs to be ntfs.
[03:08] <joe1234> anyone?
[03:09] <deejoe> joe1234: what are you trying to do?
[03:09] <deejoe> and what have you done so far?
[03:10] <joe1234> well i'm trying to install ubuntu 10.4 but if i use a cd it keeps saying cannot mount dev000 and if if use a usb it keeps saying that it can't find file directory, so now i want to go back to windows 7 but it saids that the partition isn't ntfs
[03:10] <joe1234> i'm SOOOO confused
[03:11] <deejoe> so, you went through the installation from CD for a significant ways, it finished, but when you try to reboot at the end this is what is happening?
[03:12] <deejoe> If you did an install from CD without wubi, windows 7 is gone, right?
[03:12] <joe1234> yeh i am on 10.10 version
[03:12] <joe1234> but i'm having problems viewing divx streams so i want to downgrade to 10.4
[03:12] <deejoe> and you have the windows 7 installation media?
[03:12] <deejoe> or you have the 10.4 installation media?
[03:13] <joe1234> no like basically i'm stuck with 10.10 and i can't change it
[03:13] <deejoe> so 10.10 is working otherwise?
[03:14] <joe1234> yes
[03:14] <joe1234> but i can't view divx streams
[03:14] <joe1234> and i've been trying to fix it for 2 days
[03:14] <joe1234> i've tried everything
[03:14] <joe1234> so i want to go to 10.4 cuz it's more stabler (p.s. this is my first time on ubuntu)
[03:15] <thewrath> 10.10 is stable
[03:15] <thewrath> 10.04 just has extended support
[03:15] <nit-wit> joe1234, post a strem I have 10.10 I will see if I can dee it
[03:15] <nit-wit> stream
[03:15] <nit-wit> see
[03:16] <nit-wit> 10.10has all that 10.04 does I suspect your just missing a codec or 2
[03:16] <joe1234> okay hold on
[03:19] <joe1234> http://loombo.com/rm4cgsmzu1vf/Human.Target.2010.S01E09.HDTV.XviD-FQM.avi.html
[03:19] <joe1234> when i try to click the play icon, the screen becomes blank
[03:22] <joe1234> any luck guys?
[03:22] <nit-wit> joe1234, streams for me , do you have the reticted extras and medibunti stuff installed
[03:23] <joe1234> i believe i have the restricted
[03:23] <joe1234> what's medibunti
[03:23] <joe1234> can u give me a sudo code for that?
[03:23] <nit-wit> joe1234, I get the picture but it is freezing do you have to be a member?
[03:24] <nit-wit> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  I think the medibuntu you have to add the repo
[03:25] <joe1234> ?
[03:25] <nit-wit> then add w32 and libdvdcss2
[03:25] <nit-wit> joe1234, whats your desktop
[03:26] <joe1234> 10.10
[03:26] <joe1234> no u don't have to be a member
[03:26] <joe1234> and it shouldn't freeze because it plays fine on windows
[03:27] <nit-wit> ubuntu , kubuntu , xubuntu  yeah if you want to reinstall window7 I can help you there
[03:27] <nit-wit> joe1234, windows is not linux
[03:27] <joe1234> okay can u help me reinstall window 7,
[03:27] <joe1234> because the partitioning format is wrong
[03:27] <joe1234> after i install windows 7, i'll get use ubuntu as dual boot
[03:28] <joe1234> just*
[03:29] <nit-wit> joe1234, see dialogu window
[03:29] <nit-wit> left panel
[03:46] <joe1234> does anyone know how i can stream divx
[03:46] <joe1234> the window becomes blank
[03:56] <joe1234> how to i install windoes 7 after ubuntu?
[03:58] <stlsaint> joe1234: are you asking two seperate questions?
[04:03] <aytekin> hello folks
[04:04] <stlsaint> aytekin: hello
[04:04] <aytekin> may be you can help me for installing Google Earth
[04:04] <aytekin> by using terminal
[04:05] <stlsaint> aytekin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[04:05] <aytekin> firstly downloaded googleearthlinux.bin file I have
[04:06] <aytekin> ok i ll take this thank you
[04:06] <aveilleux> aytekin: You can build a package using the "make-googleearth-package --force" command, then install with "sudo gdebi *.deb"
[04:06] <stlsaint> aveilleux: OOORRRR...sudo apt-get install googleearth :P
[04:07] <stlsaint> simple :P
[04:07] <aveilleux> stlsaint: I thought it wasn't in the repos?
[04:07] <stlsaint> aveilleux: you have to have medibuntu repos added
[04:07] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Ah, see, I assumed otherwise and I generally avoid adding repos if I don't need to.
[04:08] <stlsaint> aveilleux: do you watch dvd's on your system?
[04:08] <aveilleux> stlsaint: I manually installed the libdvdcss package myself.
[04:09] <stlsaint> aveilleux: :P
[04:09] <stlsaint> aveilleux: well i add repos so THERE :P
[04:09] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Ya punk
[04:10] <stlsaint> aveilleux: i actually only have 1 extra repo from default repos and thats the medibuntu repo
[04:11] <aveilleux> stlsaint: I have the GetDeb (for games), Oracle (for VBox) and Opera repos.
[04:13] <stlsaint> aveilleux: oh yea haha i forgot about the vbox repo
[07:59] <MrAnthrope> Hey guys.
[07:59] <nit-wit> MrAnthrope, whats up dog
[08:00] <MrAnthrope> Having a bit of trouble with Compiz.
[08:00] <nit-wit> MrAnthrope, I know very little but go ahead if you think it might help
[08:01] <MrAnthrope> Animations in compiz. I saw a youtube video and the girl had like fire options and windows shattering into pieces on close. I don't have those animations.
[08:01] <nit-wit> MrAnthrope, you want the bling eh I have no clue on that
[08:01] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:01] <MrAnthrope> I'm trying to see what some of these do, though. And they don't seem to be applying.
[08:01] <MrAnthrope> Yeah that's what I'm using aveilleux.
[08:02] <MrAnthrope> Do I have to close the CCSM to apply changes?
[08:02] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Are desktop effects enabled in System > Preferences > Appearance?
[08:03] <MrAnthrope> Yes.
[08:03] <aveilleux> Gm.
[08:03] <aveilleux> Hm.
[08:03] <aveilleux> That means Compiz is properly initialized...
[08:03] <MrAnthrope> oh wait I see what happened.
[08:04] <MrAnthrope> I changed something in Compiz and it set it to Normal instead of Extra.
[08:04] <aveilleux> Really? Weird...
[08:04] <MrAnthrope> I see. When I turn off wobbly windows, it sets the mode to "normal".
[08:04] <aveilleux> Hm, try compiz --replace & (include the ampersand) in Terminal and see what happens
[08:04] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Ohhh, interesting. I guess that window is just limited Compiz configuration.
[08:05] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Learn something new every day.
[08:05] <MrAnthrope> So... wobbly windows are required for Compiz?
[08:05] <aveilleux> No.
[08:06] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: That Appearance window has some Compiz effects that it considers "Extra", and if they're disabled in Compizconfig then it doesn't consider the graphics mode to be "extra". You can ignore it.
[08:07] <MrAnthrope> Oh ok. So Compiz will still work with it set to "Normal"?
[08:07] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Yes. Compiz is automatically enabled once you set it to anything above "basic".
[08:09] <MrAnthrope> oh that's milliseconds :)
[08:12] <MrAnthrope> Alright the animations are working. Now where's the fire and junk?
[08:21] <MrAnthrope> Ah. For some reason I'm missing the Main Effects package. Plugins Main.
[08:24] <MrAnthrope> According to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Animation I'm missing a BUNCH of animations.
[08:24] <MrAnthrope> Which should have been installed with Compiz.
[08:32] <MrAnthrope> omg I figured it out all by myself :)
[08:33]  * MrAnthrope pats himself on the back.
[08:33] <bioterror> give yourself a nice warm hug
[08:33] <MrAnthrope> hehe.
[08:52] <MrAnthrope> Can anyone tell me why I can't move windows between desktops now? :(
[08:53] <MrAnthrope> I've been messing with Window Management and Desktop forever and I can't seem to find the option to turn on.
[08:54] <MrAnthrope> aha!
[08:54] <MrAnthrope> Number of Desktops (1)... but when I put 4 it reverts back to 1...
[11:44] <Rafi> hi
[11:44] <Rafi> i need help
[11:44] <Rafi> can any one help me
[11:45] <Rafi> ?
[11:45] <Rafi> please
[11:46] <Rafi> i have acer aspire 4740 notebook. i just installed ubuntu 10.10. now i need driver software for my notebook. specially for graphics. i cannot reduce brightness.what can i do?
[11:50] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/587081
[11:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 587081 in ubuntu "Acer Aspire 4740 brightness control problem with intel i5 430M with Direct Media Interface, Integrated GPU (affects: 2) (heat: 21)" [Undecided,New]
[11:50] <bioterror> there you go rafi
[12:02] <Rafi> no. i have i3 processor
[12:04] <bioterror> well, you can still try that grub line
[12:04] <bioterror> when you reboot you can test it
[12:05] <bioterror> you edit that GRUB line and put to the end: after that "splash quiet" this: acpi_osi=Linux
[12:05] <bioterror> if it works, then you can edit boot parameters and make it "permanent" ;)
[12:10] <CiscoDude> I'm having a heck of a time with 10.10 on 2 devices. My first question is, what is the "right way" of installing grub2 and it playing nice with win7?
[12:10] <bioterror> !grub2
[12:10] <ubot2> GRUB is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[12:12] <CiscoDude> ok, thanx. My next issue is, I loved using Gnome-Do in 10.04 on my netbook, but I found that it doesn't work with 10.10. Is there something similar I can use? I love being able to type a name of an app instead of digging through menues
[12:12] <bioterror> hmmm
[12:12] <bioterror> alt+f2? :D
[12:13] <CiscoDude> well, yeah... but I don't remember the exact name of every app (yet) and I kinda liked the interface
[12:15] <CiscoDude> I really would like to find a way to make ubuntu a bit snappier on my netbook. It is painfully slow to load up (where as win7 took next to no time)
[12:18] <CiscoDude> hmm, my primary drive on my tower is an SSD which only has win7 on it. If I install grub on this drive, will it damage the windows boot manager thingy?
[12:18] <chouvah> hello ! Anyone who might know how do I find the best DNS in my location?
[12:19] <CiscoDude> chouvah, your ISP would probably be the closest
[12:19] <chouvah> I mean the fastest DNSs
[12:19] <CiscoDude> probably the same aswell
[12:20] <chouvah> What is the benefit of connecting to a proxy server. Would it help to accelerate connection speed?
[12:21] <CiscoDude> chouvah, a proxy server is often used for security/privacy... depending on the proxy server, it may have a cache service installed that stores website data, which could speed things up for you
[12:22] <CiscoDude> what are you trying to accomplish?
[12:23] <MrAnthrope> cisco I think I've heard people go "holy crap I installed ubuntu and now win7 won't boot"
[12:23] <MrAnthrope> If that helps to answer your question at all.
[12:24] <chouvah> CiscoDude, I do online shopping and my credit card info was stolen many times. For security reasons, so I changed to Ubuntu.
[12:26] <chouvah> I'm absolutely an honest person. Just trying to find ways to protect myself. You know...
[12:27] <rafi> how can i update my driver software in ubuntu 10.10. i have acer 4740
[12:28] <chouvah> CiscoDude, Any advise for a beginner like me? I have just started learning Ubuntu.
[12:29] <CiscoDude> chouvah, was it stolen while using linux or winblows?
[12:30] <CiscoDude> sorry, had to read it a couple times
[12:30] <chouvah> CiscoDude, while in windows of course.
[12:31] <CiscoDude> um, to be honest, your best bet is to ensure you don't have any spyware/malware installed on your windows machine (many articles out there on the subject)
[12:31] <CiscoDude> as far as linux goes, I believe malware/spyware is a very rare occurence
[12:33] <CiscoDude> it's hard to give good advice on this stuff without you having some education on best practices with online shopping/banking
[12:33] <chouvah> CiscoDude, Sorry, but it seems malware failed me as well. Windows is propriety on all angles. What frustrate me is that.. there's a lot or products they offer. If you take a trial version, it will undermine your security of other applications on your system. Until you take the offer in.
[12:33] <CiscoDude> basically, you want to ensure when you checkout, that the connection is secure (firefox/IE will have a lock symbol)
[12:34] <chouvah> How do I know that it is a secure connection?
[12:34] <CiscoDude> i understand. ya know, when I do my online shopping, I use a linux live cd
[12:35] <CiscoDude> Well, firefox will have a lock symbol on/near the address bar and internet explorer would have it in the bottom right of the browser
[12:35] <chouvah> CiscoDude, what do you mean by linux live cd. That's sounds interesting to me.
[12:36] <bioterror> chouvah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[12:36] <CiscoDude> chouvah, you can download Ubuntu (for example) and burn it to a CD... then boot from the CD. A Live CD will allow you to do everything you could, but without actually installing anything on your system
[12:37] <CiscoDude> Ah crap... I broke my machine using the grub how-to guide
[12:37] <CiscoDude> I get a nice pretty grub> _
[12:37] <CiscoDude> How do I fix this?
[12:38] <CiscoDude> heck, how do I even boot into anything from here?
[12:38] <bioterror> :D
[12:38] <phillw> chouvah: one other option is to use the security token available via paypal, that adds an additional layer of security. a lot of sites now accept paypal.
[12:39] <CiscoDude> phillw, good advice aswell
[12:39] <chouvah> phillw, That's a good one as well. Thanks.
[12:40] <CiscoDude> I created a /boot partition on my drive when I installed Ubuntu... how do I boot from (hd1,msdos2)?
[12:41] <CiscoDude> set root=(hd1,msdos2) and then boot says there is no kernel loaded
[12:42] <chouvah> CiscoDude, what is the difference between doing it on a Live CD against shopping from a fully installed Ubuntu system?
[12:42] <phillw> CiscoDude: I'm sure there is an easier way, but try reinstalling grub.
[12:42] <CiscoDude> phillw, i just did again, and I got to this screen again
[12:43] <phillw> CiscoDude: did you follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 ?
[12:43] <CiscoDude> chouvah, there really isn't... but if you did want to install ubuntu for example or didn't want any information sotred about what sites you shop from, Live CDs are good
[12:43] <CiscoDude> didn't want*
[12:44] <CiscoDude> hmm, so set root(hd0,msdos1); chainloader +1; boot worked fine for getting back into windows...
[12:45] <CiscoDude> ARG, why does linux have to be so god blessed difficult?!?!
[12:45] <bioterror> haha
[12:45] <bioterror> only for dual booters
[12:45] <bioterror> :---------D
[12:45] <bioterror> one os, one love
[12:46] <CiscoDude> yeah, well, my netbook only has ubuntu on it, and that is a real terror too
[12:46] <chouvah> In fact, the very first OS I've learned was basic Unix. Because my job is to make patterns for apparels, I learned to operate a CAD machine running in Unix and Caldera Linux. I fell in love with Linux many years ago, but did not have a chance to learn more other than what my job needs me to.
[12:46] <bioterror> what do you think, is a mormon man happier with three wives than a regular joe with one? :D
[12:47] <CiscoDude> bioterror, apples and oranges... see the mormon must be suicidal once a month, where the joe can hide from just one woman :D
[12:47] <CiscoDude> in any event, can someone please walk me through this... i think my partitioning scheme is what's making things difficult
[12:47] <chouvah> bioterror, I think I can be happier with 2 girlfriends than 3 wives (lol).
[12:47] <CiscoDude> actually, brb, cancer stick before I smash this POS
[12:48] <bioterror> CiscoDude, we might try it out when you return
[12:48] <bioterror> as I have two hours left my work day
[12:49] <bioterror> and I'm high on energy drinks :D
[12:52] <CiscoDude> i'm back
[12:52] <bioterror> good
[12:52] <CiscoDude> ok, i'm booted into the live CD
[12:53] <bioterror> okay
[12:53] <CiscoDude> my linux drive is partitioned pretty crazy
[12:53] <bioterror> I'm gathering my thoughts :D
[12:53] <bioterror> how it is partitioned?
[12:53] <CiscoDude> swap, boot, and logical will all the others i need
[12:54] <CiscoDude> boot is 5GB so sdb2 is /boot
[12:54] <bioterror> waaaaat
[12:54] <bioterror> ̃~200MB is enuff for the /boot ;)
[12:55] <CiscoDude> i know, but I've got a buttload of space to play with :D
[12:55] <bioterror> can I ask
[12:55] <CiscoDude> who knows, i might want to torture myself with multiple linux os's
[12:55] <bioterror> could you move your ~/ to Windows partition with that LiveCD and make a clean installation?-)
[12:56] <CiscoDude> i could, but I would prefer to keep it this way for now
[12:57] <bioterror> well
[12:57] <bioterror> what else you have partitioned
[12:58] <CiscoDude> sda is my ssd with windows on it, sdb is swap (primary), /boot (primary), and /home, /usr, /usr/local, etc as logical
[12:59] <CiscoDude> and sdc is NTFS storage
[13:00] <geirha> And where's / ? :)
[13:00] <CiscoDude> it's part of the logical partitions
[13:01] <CiscoDude> on sdb
[13:01] <bioterror> sdbX
[13:01] <CiscoDude> oh, um... don't remember which one it is.. lemme mount them all
[13:02] <bioterror> !pastebin | CiscoDude
[13:02] <geirha> Well to start, mount the root partition on /mnt, then the boot partition on /mnt/boot, then grub can be updated.
[13:02] <ubot2> CiscoDude: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[13:02] <bioterror> CiscoDude, can you df -h after that and pastebin the output to us
[13:03] <CiscoDude> it doesn't show what each partition is... only the size/used
[13:04] <geirha> CiscoDude: Well, mount one, ls to identify, unmount and mount the next
[13:05] <CiscoDude> which partition am I looking for? /boot or /?
[13:05] <geirha> Both
[13:05] <bioterror> for a some reason I am fan of two paritions, just / and swap :)
[13:06] <geirha> I have 8 partitions on this laptop ^^
[13:06] <geirha> 3 different installs of ubuntu
[13:06] <bioterror> :o
[13:07] <CiscoDude> http://paste.ubuntu.com/537872/
[13:07] <CiscoDude> i commented the two in question
[13:07] <bioterror> yeah
[13:07] <bioterror> CiscoDude, do these
[13:07] <bioterror> cd /mnt
[13:08] <bioterror> sudo mkdir boot
[13:08] <CiscoDude> k
[13:08] <bioterror> sudo mount /dev/sdb12 /mnt/
[13:08] <geirha> sudo mount /dev/sdb12 /mnt; sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/boot
[13:08] <bioterror> yeah geirha was faster with sdb2
[13:08] <geirha> That mkdir is pointless btw
[13:09] <geirha> Since mounting sdb12 on /mnt will hide it
[13:09] <bioterror> okay
[13:09] <CiscoDude> it isn't hidden
[13:09] <chouvah> bioterror,   I have dual Window 7/64 bit and Ubuntu 10.10. I have to disk (sda and sdb). However, I only use sdb for ubuntu. 6456 for swap and remaining space as /. Do you have partition recommendation for a learner like me?
[13:10] <CiscoDude> ok, they are mounted
[13:11] <bioterror> chouvah, if you suspend and hibernate your computer and you use alot of RAM, it's suggested to multiple with two your RAM as I have 4GB of RAM, I should have 8GB swap (actually it's bigger if OS can choose;)
[13:11] <CiscoDude> interesting how opt, usr, tmp, and all that is in /mnt, considering they are supposed to be seperate partitions
[13:11] <bioterror> and rest for the /
[13:11] <bioterror> chouvah, some people might suggest to put ̃~10GB for / and rest for /home
[13:12] <geirha> CiscoDude: To mount something, you need a directory to mount on. So there'll be empty directories there
[13:13] <geirha> CiscoDude: I think pastebinning /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg  would be helpfull.
[13:13] <chouvah> bioterror, is it possible to adjust my swap partition after installation?
[13:14] <CiscoDude> one sec
[13:14] <bioterror> !swap
[13:14] <ubot2> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[13:14] <bioterror> oh, there was a command ;)
[13:15] <CiscoDude> http://paste.ubuntu.com/537874/
[13:16] <chouvah> ubot2, Oh I see.
[13:16] <ubot2> Factoid 'Oh I see.' not found
[13:16] <bioterror> chouvah, my friend who uses Gentoo doesnt use swap at all ;)
[13:17] <chouvah> what is Gentoo, please?
[13:18] <CiscoDude> should i just reinstall with swap and /? i was reading a linux security book that highly suggested partitioning everything out for security/recovery purposes
[13:18] <geirha> CiscoDude: grub.cfg looks correct at first glance
[13:19] <CiscoDude> well, i know it won't pickup windows 7 via os_prober script... but that isn't a major deal
[13:20] <geirha> There's no error message when you try to boot linux, it just falls into a grub prompt?
[13:20] <CiscoDude> correct... i may have done the grub-install wrong tho
[13:20] <CiscoDude> i followed the how-to, but substituded sdb2 as the /boot
[13:21] <geirha> ls /mnt/boot/*2.6.35-23-generic
[13:21] <geirha> You see a vmlinuz and initrd there, right?
[13:21] <CiscoDude> yeppers
[13:22] <CiscoDude> well, at this point, how do i do the grub-install?
[13:23] <chouvah> bioterror, I've checked on Gentoo. I know where to find it if I would like to know more.Thanks.
[13:23] <geirha> CiscoDude: This one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[13:23] <CiscoDude> yes
[13:24] <geirha> What harddrive did you install the boot loader on?
[13:24] <CiscoDude> since we've manually mounted everything, should i just use root=/mnt/ and target as /dev/sda?
[13:24] <CiscoDude> sda
[13:25] <geirha> Yes, I'd try that.
[13:25] <CiscoDude> ok
[13:25] <CiscoDude> hmm, didn't list all the installations..
[13:26] <geirha> Just ubuntu?
[13:26] <CiscoDude> "Installation finished. No error reported." but it didn't show anything above that line.. isn't it supposed to?
[13:27] <CiscoDude> oh well, gonna reboot and see
[13:28] <CiscoDude> partial success... but no windows 7 on the list
[13:29] <CiscoDude> and the indicators on the upper right are all jacked up/spaced out funny
[13:30] <CiscoDude> ah sweet, sudo update-grub2 fixed the win7 thing
[13:31] <geirha> So now it boots into both?
[13:31] <CiscoDude> it should
[13:33] <geirha> The panel icons being weird doesn't sound related though. If you haven't made much modifications on your panels you can just reset them.
[13:33] <geirha> !panels
[13:33] <ubot2> To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[13:33] <CiscoDude> it shows up different after every reboot...
[13:34] <geirha> Even after resetting?
[13:34] <CiscoDude> no, resetting fixed it
[13:34] <CiscoDude> lemme reboot again and see
[13:34] <geirha> They do get a little jumbled up for me too from time to time. Mainly it doesn't handle changes to resolution very well.
[13:35] <CiscoDude> hmm, so maybe nvidia's xserver thing is messing it up?
[13:35] <geirha> No idea. I don't have any nvidia cards, so I don't know how that works.
[13:36] <CiscoDude> looks fine this time arounf
[13:36] <CiscoDude> thank you for all the help
[13:36] <CiscoDude> it's funny... when things are broken in linux, they are REALLY broken...
[13:37] <CiscoDude> in windows, it's pretty easy to fix almost anything via mouse
[13:37] <bioterror> usually those are possible to repair
[13:37] <bioterror> in windows it's really easy to fix with reinstallation :D
[13:37] <bioterror> as you dont really understand registry and all the ini files :D
[13:37] <CiscoDude> yeah... i don't get that either...
[13:38] <CiscoDude> unfortunately, I have to use it most of the time for work, or i'd be using linux primarily
[13:38] <CiscoDude> well, i need to get to bed, but I will definately be back for help with my netbook
[13:38] <CiscoDude> many thanx and cyber beers for all
[13:39]  * bioterror pops the ginger ale can open
[13:47]  * nlsthzn likes free beer...
[13:47] <bioterror> "oh my favourite drink, free alcohol" :D
[16:30] <bodhizazen> 'lo all
[16:36] <coolbhavi> bodhizazen, hello
[16:41] <bodhizazen> how goes coolbhavi ?
[16:41] <coolbhavi> bodhizazen, m fine you?
[16:46] <bodhizazen> Skiing has begun, so all is well in the world
[16:50] <thewrath> hey all!
[16:50] <thewrath> hey bodhizazen long time
[16:50] <bodhizazen> =)
[16:50] <bodhizazen> been busy
[16:51] <thewrath> yeap lol
[16:51] <thewrath> thinking about getting back in the swing of things
[16:51] <thewrath> want to do tutorials again
[16:51] <bodhizazen> nice
[16:51] <thewrath> nhandler gave me an email address that i did not copy down unfortenely (sp) to the council
[16:51] <thewrath> can you send mea  private msg with it?
[17:04] <hobgoblin> hi thewrath - long time no see
[17:04] <thewrath> really
[17:04] <thewrath> i dont remember you
[17:05] <hobgoblin> that's possibly because I might have been elfy or piskie
[17:05] <thewrath> ah
[17:05] <thewrath> okay
[17:05] <thewrath> i think i remember the piskie name
[17:05] <thewrath> or elfy
[17:05] <thewrath> how have you been?
[17:05] <hobgoblin> I remember you ...
[17:05] <thewrath>  oh boy...
[17:05] <hobgoblin> I've been good ty
[17:05] <thewrath> hopefully that is for something good
[17:06] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:06] <thewrath> i do have a quesiton..... what ever hepapned to the person that caused us issues and i believe got banned from freenode?
[17:06] <hobgoblin> comes back from time to time - I've seen then a few times - but not for a longish while
[17:07] <thewrath> wat was his name?
[17:08] <hobgoblin> montel
[17:08] <hobgoblin> assuming that's who you are talking about
[17:09] <thewrath> yeap that is who it is
[17:09] <thewrath> did he ever join UBT?
[17:09] <hobgoblin> no - never got that far
[17:09] <thewrath> okay
[17:09] <shahan> hello :)
[17:09] <thewrath> i know he applied was not sure
[17:09] <thewrath> hey shadeslayer
[17:09] <thewrath> * hey shahan
[17:10] <hobgoblin> hi shahan
[17:10] <shahan> hobgoblin, hello
[17:11] <hobgoblin> thewrath: did you get the council's mail ? if not I don't know it but they can be baited in #ubuntu-beginners-council I think
[17:11] <thewrath> no i got a nother council
[17:11] <thewrath> thanks
[17:23] <shahan> going to sleep...
[17:23] <shahan> Good night
[17:23] <aveilleux> good night shahan
[18:14] <krabador> hi people , do you know if wiimoteplus are working on linux?
[18:16] <nlsthzn> not sure but the kinect does :D
[18:27] <joe1234> hey can someone tell me how to upgrade to the latest firefox
[18:28] <joe1234> i'm on this page (http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page) and idk how to use the "deb" repositories
[18:31] <bioterror> sudo apt-get update
[18:31] <bioterror> sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:31] <bioterror> that' the way to get latest from repository
[18:32] <joe1234> will that upgrade/update everything? like it won't upgrade to 10.10 right? cuz i like 10.4
[18:32] <bioterror> no it wont
[18:32] <bioterror> there's really no idea to install those by hand
[18:32] <bioterror> becouse you get dependency problems and so on
[18:42] <joe1234> bioterror: sorry i was afk. Thank you!
[18:43] <bioterror> np
[18:43] <bioterror> you really should just use apt-get for installing and removing programs ;)
[18:44] <joe1234> bioterror: oh ok. but while on the subject, what are "deb"s and how do i use them?
[18:44] <bioterror> joe1234, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_(file_format)
[18:46] <joe1234> ok
[18:46] <joe1234> bioterror: also what add on, codecs, and players do i need to stream divx files?
[18:47] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <thewrath[away]> anyone out there?
[18:48] <thewrath[away]> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/8anA4vQs
[18:48] <bioterror> ofcourse
[18:48] <thewrath[away]> does the 1300 mean what killed it?
[18:49] <joe1234> bioterror: thanks again man
[18:49] <bioterror> joe1234, confirm that it works ;)
[18:50] <joe1234> bioterror: freaking loving the 10.4 right now
[18:50] <bioterror> joe1234, but I prefer vlc (videolan client) for playing movies/videos
[18:50] <joe1234> bioterror: i had so much trouble with 10.10 idk why. like i can't stream videos. whenever i would change volumes the vid would lag
[18:51] <bioterror> great! ;)
[18:52] <bioterror> sounds weird, and you're not getting these problems with 10.04?
[18:52] <joe1234> bioterror: is vlc necessary? i'm playing with mplayer and it works
[18:53] <joe1234> yeh with 10.4 it plays just fine, like i tried it before u posted the restricted extra link, it it played
[18:53] <joe1234> LOL
[18:53] <bioterror> well
[18:53] <bioterror> I like to have both of them
[18:53] <bioterror> but it's just me
[18:54] <joe1234> yeh
[18:54] <joe1234> well thank you again. i g2g
[18:54] <bioterror> tomato-tomeito
[19:23] <joe1234> how do i switched to vlc from mplayer when streaming videos?
[19:23] <joe1234> it seems that the default player is mplayer and i can't change it
[19:25] <aveilleux> joe1234: System > Preferences > Default Applications
[19:27] <joe1234> i don't have default applications
[19:28] <joe1234> wait nvm found it
[19:28] <joe1234> instead of of viewing it in firefox, how can i use the actual vlc player?
[20:27] <thewrath> back yall
[23:18] <bodhizazen> quiet todat
[23:18] <Cheri703> tru dat
[23:27] <zkriesse> bodhizazen: HEY!
[23:30] <bodhizazen> 'lo zkriesse
[23:30] <zkriesse> bodhizazen: I've got an interview this wednesday!
[23:30] <zkriesse> bodhizazen: funny part is I just applied at the place today
[23:31] <bodhizazen> Congrats !!!
[23:31] <zkriesse> Ty
[23:32] <zkriesse> Pray/hope/cross your fingers for me?
[23:32] <zkriesse> oh, phillw told me he's talking to ya (I was trying to ping him) so Ill leave ya alone now