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paddy_mI am having wierd issues with an ebs-backed ami running ubuntu 10.10, eventually /dev/xvdb goes to 100% cpu utilization with no actual I/O15:43
paddy_mwhat is /dev/xvdb it doesn't show up in fstab or "df -h "15:45
kiallpaddy_m, thats just the disk, same as /dev/sda etc15:54
kialland not showing in fstab / df -h just means it hasnt been mounted ...15:56
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paddy_mhow does it go to 100% i/o util with no read or write requests, and no read or write kbps16:01
kiallhonestly cant tell you that, how are you sure the CPU usage is related to that disk?16:03
kiall(and not another disk.. aka a mounted one!)16:03
paddy_mcpu usage is low, iowait is high16:04
paddy_mthe machine locks up, and I can't login16:05
kiallpaddy_m, sorry back and forth from my desk ;) .. could it simply be a EC2 issue?16:16
kiallhumm AWS status page doesnt show any issues.. probably isnt an EC2 issue then16:17
paddy_mI don't think so, this has happened on multiple instances over multiple days16:29
paddy_mwe fire up the machine, it starts processing, and then after an hour or so, it ocks hard like this16:29
kiallhumm .. honestly never seen anything like it before (except with EC2 issues)16:29
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DeaConjust wondering what happens when mutiple user open the same file , and save at differnt times16:45
kiallDeaCon, the last one to save will overwrite the one before... not sure how thats a #ubuntu-cloud question tho ;)16:47
DeaConso one would not get the info saved then16:47
DeaConor can you both open files at the same time16:48
kiallexactly - just as with any normal operating system and FS ..16:48
kiallunless your talking about something cloud specific here ..16:48
DeaConwell can you get 2 systems to work on the same file at the same time16:52
DeaConif differnt locations16:52
kiallof course...16:52
DeaConok i need to read more i guess16:53
kiallHonestly .. I still have no idea what your trying to do ;) Im guessing its got nothing to do with cloud services?16:54
kiallJust standard file sharing ?16:54
DeaConim trying to open the same file and not lose info when they are saved16:54
kiallwhere is the file stored?16:55
DeaConon my cloud16:55
kiallWhich is .. S3? EC2? something else?16:55
DeaConok no idea im learning sorry16:55
kiallwhat do you mean on "on your cloud" then? what services / software are you using?16:56
DeaConubuntu one cloud16:56
kiallaha .. okay ;) Now im starting to get you!16:57
DeaConsorry16:57
kiall(BTW lead with that sort of detail next time ;))16:57
DeaConok will do16:57
kiallAs far as I know, Ubuntu One will, if you open the same file twice on 2x PC's, then save on PC1, then save on PC2 - PC2 changes will be saved, and PC1's lost16:58
DeaConok great thx16:59
kiallnp16:59
kiallDeaCon, on and for UbuntuOne stuff, you'll probably get better answers in #ubuntuone ..17:01
kialloh and*17:01
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cpbtklogicHas there been a change in libvirtd since 10.04 LTS launch that makes specifying the disk type on domain definition a requirement?20:40
cpbtklogicI have XML files that used to work without problems (in libvirt on 10.04 LTS.20:40
cpbtklogicNow, I have to explicitly state the disk type... before, it used to identify that they were qcow2.  Now, everything seems to be set to 'raw'20:41
flaccidcpbtklogic: see the man page and check the package versions you have been using. if that is the case, then i assume that is the case..21:16
cpbtklogicHi flaccid... I looked through man pages and changelog... but couldn't see anything overtly stating 'gotta specify type now'.   I'll look again.21:17
cpbtklogicIf I can't find anything, I might post it to launchpad and let package maintainers figure out if it should be classified a bug or if it is a feature.21:17
flaccidwell regardless, if you have to specify it, then i guess you have to.21:17
flaccidcpbtklogic: you might want to go upstream and check first, http://libvirt.org/remote.html21:18
cpbtklogicyeah... that's my take on it too flaccid.  However, if there are less aware users out there the files that used to work would now fail to define machines in really weird ways.21:18
cpbtklogicIt looks to start and run fine... it is just the BIOS can't see a legit disk if you don't specify the format.21:19
flaccidcpbtklogic: you can check the upstream versions, http://libvirt.org/downloads.html21:20
cpbtklogicyes... thanks flaccid.  Will do.21:20
flaccidwhat package is this in, i don't see it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libvirtd&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all21:20
cpbtklogicI think it is virsh.21:27
cpbtklogiclibvirt-bin21:27
cpbtklogichttp://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/libv/libvirt/libvirt_0.7.5-5ubuntu27.7/changelog21:28
cpbtklogicActually... you know what flaccid... You just made me find it.21:28
cpbtklogic"SECURITY UPDATE" ...  fix multiple issues with disk format for backing stores.21:28
cpbtklogicI think I was looking at the wrong version's changelog earlier.21:30
cpbtklogicI'm going to look up that CVE and see what it is all about.  See what it changed, that may very well explain the change in functionality I'm seeing.21:31
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