/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/11/29/#ubuntu-ops.txt

=== Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok
FlannelOh great.  #ubuntu-ugly00:45
IdleOneWell hopefully the new channel creation guidelines will prevent those types of channels00:48
FlannelHe dropped the channel when I asked00:49
FlannelIdleOne: They're already prevented anyway00:49
IdleOnechannel is still there00:49
FlannelIdleOne: yeah, it'll completely disappear when everyone leaves, it's no longer registered with chanserv00:49
FlannelHi Xylaur, how can we help you?00:50
XylaurYou could help me with syncing of bookmarks.00:50
IdleOneXylaur: have you tried asking in #ubuntu?00:51
XylaurNo not yet.  I just installed Xchat and tried this out.  My files sync as are my Tomboy notes and Evolution contacts.  Bookmarks no luck00:52
elkyWe're not a technical support channel, this is for discussing problems with channels. Could you try asking in #ubuntu?00:52
XylaurSure I will do that.  Thanks anyway and do not get mad if I end up here again as I am new to IRC.00:53
elkyHow did you get here to start with?00:53
elkyDid you choose our channel name from a list, or did you get here when you tried joining somewhere else?00:54
XylaurHit connect after I installed Xchat and selected #ubuntuone00:54
elkyOh, then your mouse has slipped I think. This is #ubuntu-ops. You should be able to right-click #ubuntuone and get to there now though.00:55
XylaurOK!  Thanks I see now I expended the window on the left side.00:56
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (pfifo appears to be abusive - 4)01:21
ubottupfifo called the ops in #ubuntu ()01:21
IdleOnepfifo: what's up?01:24
IdleOneyou freaked out dude :)01:24
IdleOneor dudette01:25
pfifodude01:25
IdleOnek01:25
IdleOneSo anyway I know you already know our guidelines, just want to make sure we won't have another loss of control on your part in #ubuntu01:25
IdleOnebut please explain what happened01:26
pfifosorry, i kind of came into #ubunto from another channel that made me upset01:26
IdleOnesometimes best to just step back and do something else01:27
pfifobut, there was this guy still trolling from when i was here the other day01:27
pfifoyeah01:28
pfifoit just made me twice as mad as i alredy was01:28
IdleOneyeah I see him, it's more enthusiasm then trolling. direct them to #ubuntu-offtopic in the future01:28
IdleOneif you really feel a need to let off steam, feel free to /msg me and go nuts. I might not answer but I won't hold it against you :)01:29
* Jordan_U uses IdleOne as a punching bag01:30
IdleOneunless you insult me, then I will write dozens of blog posts about your pet cat/dog/fish. (makes no sense I know)01:30
IdleOnepfifo: anyway, not going to ban you but know that we can't have that type of language and attitude in any Ubuntu channels.01:31
pfifoI truly want to help but Linux is not my invention nor can i control everything01:31
IdleOnecalling people names, cursing...We all started somewhere, keep that in mind01:32
IdleOneJordan_U: I might punch you back :P01:33
IdleOnehehe01:33
pfifoIdleOne, not to be flamboyant but wouldnt matter any way, I dont really want to upset people but some where i have to say 'hey you'01:34
pfifoi try to keep in tone01:34
rwwI use ##rww for that :(01:34
IdleOnethere are different ways of saying "hey you"01:34
Jordan_UIdleOne: I know jujitsu :)01:34
IdleOnethe one you chose was ugh01:34
IdleOneJordan_U: I know Smith and Wesson01:35
pfifoJordan_U, stop making me laugh!!01:35
IdleOnehaha01:35
elkyJordan_U, and drunken boxing, yeah?01:35
IdleOneok so if ther is nothing else I would kindly ask you to /part this channel, see the no idle policy in the topic :)01:35
IdleOnenit-wit: was there anything you needed help with?01:36
pfifook i guess the best point i have is that at some times you admins dont seem to be there and in this case i Happened to have a personal issue with soneone and tried to take care of it01:37
IdleOneyou are always welcome to join this channel if there is something we ops are not seeing01:37
IdleOnelet us know and we will try to help01:37
pfifoyes, thank you.01:39
IdleOnesure thing, thank you.01:39
pfifois it ok to autojoin/idle here? well technically only lilo can make that call, but it it cool?01:40
IdleOnetechnically lilo doesn't make any more calls and no we don't allow idling01:40
pfiforight01:41
elkySomeone's been under a rock...01:41
IdleOnenit-wit: you there?01:41
nit-witIdleOne, no I was just curious about this channel thanks. could use a few more IQ points though ;)01:41
IdleOnescuse me?01:42
elkyLet me guess, another from lessthanthree01:42
IdleOnenit-wit: if there is nothing you need please refer to the topic and the no idle policy01:42
Flannelelky: No.01:43
nit-witIdleOne, you mentioned this channel didn't know it existed, and the IQpoints are a joke about my intelligence01:43
IdleOneI see01:43
IdleOneheh01:43
IdleOneself deprecating funnies ftl01:43
IdleOnehmm, did I use that word right?01:44
IdleOnedoesn't look right now01:44
rwwIdleOne: yes01:45
Jordan_Uself-deprecating? Yes.01:45
IdleOneI did! looked it up to make sure01:45
Jordan_UI'm not quite sure what to do with Agent007 in #ubuntu, if anything yet.04:34
rwwJordan_U: sigh. I've had to poke at him in #ubuntu-offtopic today, I'll deal with it.04:39
Jordan_Urww: Thanks.04:39
IdleOneafaik installing linux on fat32 is not possible or am I wrong?05:45
Jordan_Urww: Did you mean that /me to go here rather than #ubuntu?05:46
Jordan_UI think he's talking about unetbootin or similar.05:46
IdleOnestill offtopic05:46
IdleOneor least it seems so to me05:46
FlannelIt wasn't really offtopic as a single comment.  If they were having a discussion about the socio-economic aspects of the pendrive market, that'd be different.05:47
FlannelBut "I'm waiting until the new year to buy a pendrive and try it" "Dude, pendrives are cheap, buy one now!" isn't worthy of calling people out about.05:48
IdleOneimo the cost of a pendrive is not relevant to Ubuntu support05:48
IdleOnewether it be dollars or rubbles05:48
rwwJordan_U: let's try here as well!05:48
FlannelIdleOne: The fact that it was $15 wasn't the important bit of the comment.05:48
* rww continues eating IdleOne's delicious #ubuntu-branded @ snack05:49
IdleOnewhy do you keep eating my snacks05:49
rwwbecause my client thinks you're opped in #ubuntu05:49
IdleOneoh05:49
rww;P05:49
IdleOnewhy didn't you deop me then05:49
rwwbecause that would be slightly rude05:49
FlannelBecause making cinnamon-roll comments is much more fun!05:50
IdleOnenot really. I do it to you every chance I get in the other channel05:50
rwwalso, because I was opped for a quarter hour in #ubuntu the other day dealing with exempts, and hoping nobody took it upon themselves to deop me in the middle of it. also, what Flannel said.05:50
IdleOnewell I been oped longer then that. forgot about it to be honest05:50
IdleOneanyway, thank you for eating my pastry and leaving me none05:51
FlannelIdleOne: Doesn't your client show you every time you say something?05:51
IdleOneshow me I am oped?05:51
IdleOneno05:51
rwwswitch to irssi05:51
IdleOneNO05:51
Jordan_UIdleOne: Give in to the dark side.05:51
IdleOneJordan_U: I know there is still some good left in you....05:52
IdleOneStar wars all weekend long on t.v.05:52
rwwChanServ Bakeries: delivering fresh cinnamon buns 24-hours a day, 300 days a year, with an average delivery time of a few seconds :S05:52
IdleOneok, why only 300 days a year?05:53
FlannelBecause rww believes in the metric system, 10 months a year, 30 days a month05:53
IdleOnethat makes complete sense05:54
rwwIRC servers need vacation days too. You humans know them as 'netsplits' :(05:54
IdleOnewould it not be easier with 25 hours a day05:54
IdleOnejust so we can have nice even numbers05:54
rwwalso, I need an ubuntu namespace group contact for my maniacal whim, when one of you isn't busy at all.05:55
rwwFlannel: 30 isn't very metrical :(05:55
Jordan_U"ubuntu namespace group contact"?05:55
rwwJordan_U: yes, the group contacts for the ubuntu namespace. currently consists of the IRC Council minus nhandłer.05:56
IdleOnethat would be jussi topyli Pici tsimpson05:56
IdleOneHEYA!05:56
rwwthere goes IdleOne, pinging everyone again :(05:56
IdleOneI pinged you all :P05:56
tonyyarussopingitty pingitty05:57
* rww ponders 'FappyJones|420'05:58
IdleOnebad nick05:58
IdleOneon many different levels05:58
Flannelrww: No, but neither is 60s/60m/24h, yet metric people have no problem using that.05:58
rwwFlannel: I do, there's just no good alternative :(05:59
tonyyarusso100s/100m/10h!05:59
Jordan_UMetric days/years are more difficult though.05:59
Flannelrww: There's no real good reason for using the metric system at all either, yet you don't see me holding that over people's heads!05:59
Flannelor, let me restate that,06:00
tonyyarusso(100,000 seconds compared to 86,400 seconds - it's be pretty easy to adapt to)06:00
Flannelthere's no good reason to *switch* to using the metric system.  If you're already using it, that's different.06:00
tonyyarussoSure there is - I'll stop mocking you06:00
Flanneltonyyarusso: I mock your metric system every time you try and divide something by three!06:01
tonyyarussoCanadians are on metric time, dontchaknow.  Rick Mercer said so.06:01
Flannelrww: metric time would best be redefined as a second to be 1/1 000 000 000 (or 1/100 000 000) the time it takes light to travel a meter (in a vacuum)06:02
Flanneland then a light year would simply be the length of time light takes to travel a gigameter or whatnot06:02
Flanneler s/light year/year/06:03
tonyyarussoRight, forget this silly terracentric view of time!06:04
Flannelbut then you'd have to redefine all the other SI units, by a scaling factor of 1e9/c, and as such, you see the arbitrarity of the metric system in general (the same arbitrarity proponents of it use to argue against the imperial system)06:04
tonyyarussoIt's not the arbitrarity that makes the imperial system dumb - it's the bizarre conversion factors instead of just using prefixes.06:05
rww^^^06:05
FlannelAlso, apart from this being offtopic, I think I defined my second inside out.06:05
tonyyarussoI mean really, 3 teaspoons to the tablespoon, 16 tablespoons to the cup, 2 cups to the pint, 2 pints to the quart, 4 quarts to the gallon, 2 gallons to the peck?06:06
tonyyarussoAnd don't even get me started on gills and drachms.06:06
Flanneltonyyarusso, rww: puny hoomans can't understand more than three orders of magnitude at a given time anyway.  So prefixes don't do you any good, and you've gotta carry around an oddball mantissa anyway06:07
Flannelhaving lots of units means you can round down to a whole number easily, and also makes mental math easier as well.06:08
rwwikonia: /lastlog 202.88.230.178 o.O08:08
ikoniaa school08:09
ikoniathis happened a few days ago08:09
ikoniarww: the ip is from an isp08:12
ikoniait seems very odd that they would all connect from one isp and start asking ubuntu questions at one08:12
tonyyarussoToday in "obvious statements"...08:12
* tonyyarusso wonders if IdleOne is still up08:13
rwwno, he's idle08:13
ikoniatrying to talk to some of them in pm now to find out whats going on08:15
FlannelThat looks to be a virus-type-spam08:17
ikoniamaybe08:18
rwwlikely, given that it's loljava.08:18
Flannelrww: Well, view source and look at the parameters08:18
Flannelit apparently downloads a few vbs files in Windows, and an exe file in Linux (lol?)08:18
rwwoh, it's that one. yes, virus.08:19
ikoniathose school guys are not responding to any pm's08:20
rwwreddit got hit with it the other day08:20
rwwikonia: alrighty. I'll throw +z up again and make sure they're still not saying anything in-channel08:22
ikoniatalking to one now08:23
rwwikonia: sarin just said something, if you're looking for an active one.08:28
ikoniaI'm talking to chip, it's not filling me with confidence08:28
ikoniahe says he's using their network but he's not from there, but I find that hard to believe when he has the same ident and ip as most of the others08:29
ikoniaughh, it appears there is some Indian FOSS camp going on there,08:32
ikoniaalarming08:32
ikoniaalarming in the quality of the questions and sheer volume08:33
rwwfyi, zulgaban is banforwarded here from #ubuntu because it was running an XDCC fileshare thing. I figured the usual approach of poking the user until they turn it off was overridden by the fact that I really don't want people getting a response to !list because then they'll keep trying it >.>08:51
rwwikonia: it's also alarming to me how many of them are apparently running as root >.<08:53
rwwhoho, fileshare guy has /another/ script that detected my PM as spam and blocked it. oh well.09:03
ikoniayes09:04
FlannelThat was red and ominious.  rww, are you going to explode now?09:10
rwwI am the bomb.09:12
Tm_Tbombastic09:12
Tm_Tor should I say, bombastiK09:13
rwwjussi: while I'm giving you work, ubottu just asked me to review ban #27333, which appears to be removed o.O09:13
jussirww: dont stress, just bot isnt quite in sync then09:13
jussiheppens occaisionally09:13
knomeheppens?!09:14
rwwalrighty. just checking there wasn't something wrong :)09:14
rwwzulgaban: hi10:08
topylizulgaban: is there something we can help you with? if not, please don't idle here10:17
zulgabanplease unban me from ubuntu10:18
zulgabani have turn off my talking script10:18
rwwzulgaban: alright, one sec10:18
zulgabanthank you10:19
rwwThat was easier than expected.10:20
lhavelundhoi.11:58
lhavelundrww: Everything went better than expected.11:58
lhavelundI do enjoy those cases.11:58
lastnodehi, just poppinginto ask if jrib has been around lately? i keep missing him due to timezones :(14:44
jussilastnode: havent see him, can I help you with something?14:45
lastnodejussi: could you just say i dropped by and to respond to my /query if/whenhe can?14:46
knomelastnode, last time he said anything here was the 16th14:46
lastnodeoh right14:46
Picilastnode: Is this an issue that another operator could help with?14:46
lastnodethanksgiving etc. i guess right14:46
lastnodeno Pici14:46
lastnodeim just looking for jrib and this is the channel he hangs in with the least traffic14:47
lastnode:)14:47
lastnodecool, ill check back later14:47
Picilastnode: Your best bet is to send him a memo then.14:47
jussilastnode: memo serv is useful here ;)14:47
lastnodethanks!14:47
lastnodeoh that's right i forgot hyperion has that14:47
lastnodethanks14:47
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Picijpds: You keep suggesting useful things and I keep installing them :|15:59
jpdsPici: I'm good.15:59
jpdsPici: My personally favourite, however, is sysstat. :)16:00
jpdspersonal*16:01
Piciugh17:29
IdleOnewhat?17:29
PiciIdleOne: just someone getting a cloak who shouldn't.17:31
IdleOneoh17:31
Piciikonia: around?17:33
ikoniayes17:43
ikoniajust17:43
Piciikonia: blockcold = jungli, correct?17:43
ikoniacorrect17:43
PiciOkay.17:43
Piciikonia: Just making sure, seeing as he was just granted a cloak, I thought I'd update our ban list.17:45
ikoniaPici: staff are well aware of him and his nicks, so if they choose to cloak him I have faith they have thought it through17:45
ikoniaPici: he also has a bzshell account too17:45
ikoniagot one a couple of days ago17:46
IdleOnebshellz17:46
IdleOnebut yeah17:46
ikoniayup17:46
PiciThat too17:46
Piciugh. 'chicks'17:54
PiciOr rather, people who say that.17:54
PiciI think I'll go distract myself with a meeting.  I can't handle -offtopic right now.17:55
IdleOneI think you need to remove Agent007.17:56
PiciBut seriously, I do have a meeting in... 3 minutes.17:57
jussiIm headed in there...17:57
Picijussi: Thank you.17:57
PiciNow I need to depart.17:58
IdleOneman he is lucky I can't op in there18:01
jussiI just made the bot ignore them for a while18:02
jussi:)18:02
IdleOneit isn't just the botabuse, it's his general trolliness18:03
IdleOnehe seems to make comments to incite18:03
ikoniahe won't again18:04
PiciDo I even want to read the backsroll there?18:40
IdleOneprobably not18:40
PiciGood good.18:40
Gulfstreamso... Why was I banned form #ubuntu-offtopic?18:42
ikoniaGulfstream: you where walking a fine line for a long time, messing around with the bot, you claimed you had a reason to do so, then said you where too angry to remember, I've removed you and forwaded you here18:42
GulfstreamI guess I didn't have much of a reason to mess with the bot18:43
ikoniayou can either justify your behaviour, in which case you'll be let back in, or stop messing around and trying to make a situation18:43
ikoniaGulfstream: right - so why did you come up with rubbish about sensitve information and say you had a reason18:43
ikoniaall you need to do is say "sure, no problem, I'll stop messing with the bot" then stop it18:44
ikoniarather than carry on trying to push people18:44
Gulfstreamnot sure why... but I wont mess with the bot18:44
ikoniaok - and I also want you to stop messing with people, trying to create a situation18:45
Gulfstreamokay18:45
Gulfstreamcan you tell me the purpose of #ubuntu-offtopic?18:46
ikoniaright, so I'll remove the ban, but be warned, any more of your previous behaviour and you'll be removed again18:46
ikoniathe purpose of ubuntu-offtopic is to have friendly offtopic chat with others18:46
ikonianot directly related to the support of Ubuntu18:46
ikoniaGulfstream: I've removed the ban, but please keep in mind what I've said, interact with people, don't try to cause a problem or push people18:47
Gulfstreamokay18:47
ikoniaGulfstream: if you're asked something in future, such as "why are you messing with the bot" answer truthfully rather than coming up with nonsense stories that get you banned18:48
Gulfstreamokay18:48
ikoniaGulfstream: in that case you're welcome to leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu-offtopic18:48
Gulfstreamso... why is there commands for the bot such as !girls and !boys?18:49
ikoniaGulfstream: to be used when appropriate18:49
Gulfstreamand when is it appropriate?18:50
ikoniause your common sense and judgment18:50
ikoniaif you don't know - best not to use it18:50
Gulfstreamokay18:50
IdleOneGulfstream: the goal of ubuntu-offtopic is to provide a safe and friendly place for people to talk without having to deal with people being "annoying"18:50
IdleOnejust be nice and you won't have to come back here :)18:51
Gulfstreamokay18:51
PiciWe'll see how that goes.18:53
bilalakhtarCan someone add me to ubottu so that I could @login?18:53
bilalakhtartsimpson: ^18:53
jussibilalakhtar: did someone not do it already?18:55
bilalakhtar@login18:55
ubottuThe operation succeeded.18:55
bilalakhtaroh!18:55
jussi;)18:55
bilalakhtarWhen did this happen? I tried today morning, didn't work18:55
bilalakhtarjussi: ^18:55
jussino idea :D18:55
* tsimpson just did it18:56
bilalakhtartsimpson: oh thanks :)18:56
tsimpsonbtw, anyone of the ircc should be able to do that18:56
Picitsimpson: Is there any way that you can confirm that the #u-w folks are setup properly? Or should I ask one of them to test.18:56
jussiI went to do it and tsimpson beat me18:57
Tm_Tjussi: harsh, beating you when you tried to be helpful18:57
ikoniaPici: has it been decided now for #ubuntu-women ?18:57
bilalakhtarjussi: oh!18:57
Piciikonia: it?18:57
ikoniaPici: #ubuntu-women using BT18:57
Piciikonia: Yes, that was decided a bit ago.18:58
ikoniaI missed that one18:58
tsimpsonPici: looks like they are all set (not that I've done an extensive test)18:58
Picitsimpson: okay, thanks :)18:58
jussiUbottu.com will get a restart tomorrow about this time, so we will lose bots for a short time.19:20
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:20
jussia stupid one at that...19:21
rwwMeh. I did ask Agent00* a few times yesterday to quit with the "chick" and "girl" silliness. If they start up again, I think they've had enough warnings.21:03
jussirww: its a grreat idea to use @mark when you have spoken to someone like that, it lets us know they have been spoken to so we dont give them the same leeway as they should now know.21:04
rwwah, I forgot about that. Thanks :)21:05

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