[00:45] <Flannel> Oh great.  #ubuntu-ugly
[00:48] <IdleOne> Well hopefully the new channel creation guidelines will prevent those types of channels
[00:49] <Flannel> He dropped the channel when I asked
[00:49] <Flannel> IdleOne: They're already prevented anyway
[00:49] <IdleOne> channel is still there
[00:49] <Flannel> IdleOne: yeah, it'll completely disappear when everyone leaves, it's no longer registered with chanserv
[00:50] <Flannel> Hi Xylaur, how can we help you?
[00:50] <Xylaur> You could help me with syncing of bookmarks.
[00:51] <IdleOne> Xylaur: have you tried asking in #ubuntu?
[00:52] <Xylaur> No not yet.  I just installed Xchat and tried this out.  My files sync as are my Tomboy notes and Evolution contacts.  Bookmarks no luck
[00:52] <elky> We're not a technical support channel, this is for discussing problems with channels. Could you try asking in #ubuntu?
[00:53] <Xylaur> Sure I will do that.  Thanks anyway and do not get mad if I end up here again as I am new to IRC.
[00:53] <elky> How did you get here to start with?
[00:54] <elky> Did you choose our channel name from a list, or did you get here when you tried joining somewhere else?
[00:54] <Xylaur> Hit connect after I installed Xchat and selected #ubuntuone
[00:55] <elky> Oh, then your mouse has slipped I think. This is #ubuntu-ops. You should be able to right-click #ubuntuone and get to there now though.
[00:56] <Xylaur> OK!  Thanks I see now I expended the window on the left side.
[01:24] <IdleOne> pfifo: what's up?
[01:24] <IdleOne> you freaked out dude :)
[01:25] <IdleOne> or dudette
[01:25] <pfifo> dude
[01:25] <IdleOne> k
[01:25] <IdleOne> So anyway I know you already know our guidelines, just want to make sure we won't have another loss of control on your part in #ubuntu
[01:26] <IdleOne> but please explain what happened
[01:26] <pfifo> sorry, i kind of came into #ubunto from another channel that made me upset
[01:27] <IdleOne> sometimes best to just step back and do something else
[01:27] <pfifo> but, there was this guy still trolling from when i was here the other day
[01:28] <pfifo> yeah
[01:28] <pfifo> it just made me twice as mad as i alredy was
[01:28] <IdleOne> yeah I see him, it's more enthusiasm then trolling. direct them to #ubuntu-offtopic in the future
[01:29] <IdleOne> if you really feel a need to let off steam, feel free to /msg me and go nuts. I might not answer but I won't hold it against you :)
[01:30]  * Jordan_U uses IdleOne as a punching bag
[01:30] <IdleOne> unless you insult me, then I will write dozens of blog posts about your pet cat/dog/fish. (makes no sense I know)
[01:31] <IdleOne> pfifo: anyway, not going to ban you but know that we can't have that type of language and attitude in any Ubuntu channels.
[01:31] <pfifo> I truly want to help but Linux is not my invention nor can i control everything
[01:32] <IdleOne> calling people names, cursing...We all started somewhere, keep that in mind
[01:33] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I might punch you back :P
[01:33] <IdleOne> hehe
[01:34] <pfifo> IdleOne, not to be flamboyant but wouldnt matter any way, I dont really want to upset people but some where i have to say 'hey you'
[01:34] <pfifo> i try to keep in tone
[01:34] <rww> I use ##rww for that :(
[01:34] <IdleOne> there are different ways of saying "hey you"
[01:34] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: I know jujitsu :)
[01:34] <IdleOne> the one you chose was ugh
[01:35] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I know Smith and Wesson
[01:35] <pfifo> Jordan_U, stop making me laugh!!
[01:35] <IdleOne> haha
[01:35] <elky> Jordan_U, and drunken boxing, yeah?
[01:35] <IdleOne> ok so if ther is nothing else I would kindly ask you to /part this channel, see the no idle policy in the topic :)
[01:36] <IdleOne> nit-wit: was there anything you needed help with?
[01:37] <pfifo> ok i guess the best point i have is that at some times you admins dont seem to be there and in this case i Happened to have a personal issue with soneone and tried to take care of it
[01:37] <IdleOne> you are always welcome to join this channel if there is something we ops are not seeing
[01:37] <IdleOne> let us know and we will try to help
[01:39] <pfifo> yes, thank you.
[01:39] <IdleOne> sure thing, thank you.
[01:40] <pfifo> is it ok to autojoin/idle here? well technically only lilo can make that call, but it it cool?
[01:40] <IdleOne> technically lilo doesn't make any more calls and no we don't allow idling
[01:41] <pfifo> right
[01:41] <elky> Someone's been under a rock...
[01:41] <IdleOne> nit-wit: you there?
[01:41] <nit-wit> IdleOne, no I was just curious about this channel thanks. could use a few more IQ points though ;)
[01:42] <IdleOne> scuse me?
[01:42] <elky> Let me guess, another from lessthanthree
[01:42] <IdleOne> nit-wit: if there is nothing you need please refer to the topic and the no idle policy
[01:43] <Flannel> elky: No.
[01:43] <nit-wit> IdleOne, you mentioned this channel didn't know it existed, and the IQpoints are a joke about my intelligence
[01:43] <IdleOne> I see
[01:43] <IdleOne> heh
[01:43] <IdleOne> self deprecating funnies ftl
[01:44] <IdleOne> hmm, did I use that word right?
[01:44] <IdleOne> doesn't look right now
[01:45] <rww> IdleOne: yes
[01:45] <Jordan_U> self-deprecating? Yes.
[01:45] <IdleOne> I did! looked it up to make sure
[04:34] <Jordan_U> I'm not quite sure what to do with Agent007 in #ubuntu, if anything yet.
[04:39] <rww> Jordan_U: sigh. I've had to poke at him in #ubuntu-offtopic today, I'll deal with it.
[04:39] <Jordan_U> rww: Thanks.
[05:45] <IdleOne> afaik installing linux on fat32 is not possible or am I wrong?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> rww: Did you mean that /me to go here rather than #ubuntu?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> I think he's talking about unetbootin or similar.
[05:46] <IdleOne> still offtopic
[05:46] <IdleOne> or least it seems so to me
[05:47] <Flannel> It wasn't really offtopic as a single comment.  If they were having a discussion about the socio-economic aspects of the pendrive market, that'd be different.
[05:48] <Flannel> But "I'm waiting until the new year to buy a pendrive and try it" "Dude, pendrives are cheap, buy one now!" isn't worthy of calling people out about.
[05:48] <IdleOne> imo the cost of a pendrive is not relevant to Ubuntu support
[05:48] <IdleOne> wether it be dollars or rubbles
[05:48] <rww> Jordan_U: let's try here as well!
[05:48] <Flannel> IdleOne: The fact that it was $15 wasn't the important bit of the comment.
[05:49]  * rww continues eating IdleOne's delicious #ubuntu-branded @ snack
[05:49] <IdleOne> why do you keep eating my snacks
[05:49] <rww> because my client thinks you're opped in #ubuntu
[05:49] <IdleOne> oh
[05:49] <rww> ;P
[05:49] <IdleOne> why didn't you deop me then
[05:49] <rww> because that would be slightly rude
[05:50] <Flannel> Because making cinnamon-roll comments is much more fun!
[05:50] <IdleOne> not really. I do it to you every chance I get in the other channel
[05:50] <rww> also, because I was opped for a quarter hour in #ubuntu the other day dealing with exempts, and hoping nobody took it upon themselves to deop me in the middle of it. also, what Flannel said.
[05:50] <IdleOne> well I been oped longer then that. forgot about it to be honest
[05:51] <IdleOne> anyway, thank you for eating my pastry and leaving me none
[05:51] <Flannel> IdleOne: Doesn't your client show you every time you say something?
[05:51] <IdleOne> show me I am oped?
[05:51] <IdleOne> no
[05:51] <rww> switch to irssi
[05:51] <IdleOne> NO
[05:51] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Give in to the dark side.
[05:52] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I know there is still some good left in you....
[05:52] <IdleOne> Star wars all weekend long on t.v.
[05:52] <rww> ChanServ Bakeries: delivering fresh cinnamon buns 24-hours a day, 300 days a year, with an average delivery time of a few seconds :S
[05:53] <IdleOne> ok, why only 300 days a year?
[05:53] <Flannel> Because rww believes in the metric system, 10 months a year, 30 days a month
[05:54] <IdleOne> that makes complete sense
[05:54] <rww> IRC servers need vacation days too. You humans know them as 'netsplits' :(
[05:54] <IdleOne> would it not be easier with 25 hours a day
[05:54] <IdleOne> just so we can have nice even numbers
[05:55] <rww> also, I need an ubuntu namespace group contact for my maniacal whim, when one of you isn't busy at all.
[05:55] <rww> Flannel: 30 isn't very metrical :(
[05:55] <Jordan_U> "ubuntu namespace group contact"?
[05:56] <rww> Jordan_U: yes, the group contacts for the ubuntu namespace. currently consists of the IRC Council minus nhandłer.
[05:56] <IdleOne> that would be jussi topyli Pici tsimpson
[05:56] <IdleOne> HEYA!
[05:56] <rww> there goes IdleOne, pinging everyone again :(
[05:56] <IdleOne> I pinged you all :P
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> pingitty pingitty
[05:58]  * rww ponders 'FappyJones|420'
[05:58] <IdleOne> bad nick
[05:58] <IdleOne> on many different levels
[05:58] <Flannel> rww: No, but neither is 60s/60m/24h, yet metric people have no problem using that.
[05:59] <rww> Flannel: I do, there's just no good alternative :(
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> 100s/100m/10h!
[05:59] <Jordan_U> Metric days/years are more difficult though.
[05:59] <Flannel> rww: There's no real good reason for using the metric system at all either, yet you don't see me holding that over people's heads!
[06:00] <Flannel> or, let me restate that,
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> (100,000 seconds compared to 86,400 seconds - it's be pretty easy to adapt to)
[06:00] <Flannel> there's no good reason to *switch* to using the metric system.  If you're already using it, that's different.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Sure there is - I'll stop mocking you
[06:01] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: I mock your metric system every time you try and divide something by three!
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Canadians are on metric time, dontchaknow.  Rick Mercer said so.
[06:02] <Flannel> rww: metric time would best be redefined as a second to be 1/1 000 000 000 (or 1/100 000 000) the time it takes light to travel a meter (in a vacuum)
[06:02] <Flannel> and then a light year would simply be the length of time light takes to travel a gigameter or whatnot
[06:03] <Flannel> er s/light year/year/
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Right, forget this silly terracentric view of time!
[06:04] <Flannel> but then you'd have to redefine all the other SI units, by a scaling factor of 1e9/c, and as such, you see the arbitrarity of the metric system in general (the same arbitrarity proponents of it use to argue against the imperial system)
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> It's not the arbitrarity that makes the imperial system dumb - it's the bizarre conversion factors instead of just using prefixes.
[06:05] <rww> ^^^
[06:05] <Flannel> Also, apart from this being offtopic, I think I defined my second inside out.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> I mean really, 3 teaspoons to the tablespoon, 16 tablespoons to the cup, 2 cups to the pint, 2 pints to the quart, 4 quarts to the gallon, 2 gallons to the peck?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> And don't even get me started on gills and drachms.
[06:07] <Flannel> tonyyarusso, rww: puny hoomans can't understand more than three orders of magnitude at a given time anyway.  So prefixes don't do you any good, and you've gotta carry around an oddball mantissa anyway
[06:08] <Flannel> having lots of units means you can round down to a whole number easily, and also makes mental math easier as well.
[08:08] <rww> ikonia: /lastlog 202.88.230.178 o.O
[08:09] <ikonia> a school
[08:09] <ikonia> this happened a few days ago
[08:12] <ikonia> rww: the ip is from an isp
[08:12] <ikonia> it seems very odd that they would all connect from one isp and start asking ubuntu questions at one
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> Today in "obvious statements"...
[08:13]  * tonyyarusso wonders if IdleOne is still up
[08:13] <rww> no, he's idle
[08:15] <ikonia> trying to talk to some of them in pm now to find out whats going on
[08:17] <Flannel> That looks to be a virus-type-spam
[08:18] <ikonia> maybe
[08:18] <rww> likely, given that it's loljava.
[08:18] <Flannel> rww: Well, view source and look at the parameters
[08:18] <Flannel> it apparently downloads a few vbs files in Windows, and an exe file in Linux (lol?)
[08:19] <rww> oh, it's that one. yes, virus.
[08:20] <ikonia> those school guys are not responding to any pm's
[08:20] <rww> reddit got hit with it the other day
[08:22] <rww> ikonia: alrighty. I'll throw +z up again and make sure they're still not saying anything in-channel
[08:23] <ikonia> talking to one now
[08:28] <rww> ikonia: sarin just said something, if you're looking for an active one.
[08:28] <ikonia> I'm talking to chip, it's not filling me with confidence
[08:29] <ikonia> he says he's using their network but he's not from there, but I find that hard to believe when he has the same ident and ip as most of the others
[08:32] <ikonia> ughh, it appears there is some Indian FOSS camp going on there,
[08:32] <ikonia> alarming
[08:33] <ikonia> alarming in the quality of the questions and sheer volume
[08:51] <rww> fyi, zulgaban is banforwarded here from #ubuntu because it was running an XDCC fileshare thing. I figured the usual approach of poking the user until they turn it off was overridden by the fact that I really don't want people getting a response to !list because then they'll keep trying it >.>
[08:53] <rww> ikonia: it's also alarming to me how many of them are apparently running as root >.<
[09:03] <rww> hoho, fileshare guy has /another/ script that detected my PM as spam and blocked it. oh well.
[09:04] <ikonia> yes
[09:10] <Flannel> That was red and ominious.  rww, are you going to explode now?
[09:12] <rww> I am the bomb.
[09:12] <Tm_T> bombastic
[09:13] <Tm_T> or should I say, bombastiK
[09:13] <rww> jussi: while I'm giving you work, ubottu just asked me to review ban #27333, which appears to be removed o.O
[09:13] <jussi> rww: dont stress, just bot isnt quite in sync then
[09:13] <jussi> heppens occaisionally
[09:14] <knome> heppens?!
[09:14] <rww> alrighty. just checking there wasn't something wrong :)
[10:08] <rww> zulgaban: hi
[10:17] <topyli> zulgaban: is there something we can help you with? if not, please don't idle here
[10:18] <zulgaban> please unban me from ubuntu
[10:18] <zulgaban> i have turn off my talking script
[10:18] <rww> zulgaban: alright, one sec
[10:19] <zulgaban> thank you
[10:20] <rww> That was easier than expected.
[11:58] <lhavelund> hoi.
[11:58] <lhavelund> rww: Everything went better than expected.
[11:58] <lhavelund> I do enjoy those cases.
[14:44] <lastnode> hi, just poppinginto ask if jrib has been around lately? i keep missing him due to timezones :(
[14:45] <jussi> lastnode: havent see him, can I help you with something?
[14:46] <lastnode> jussi: could you just say i dropped by and to respond to my /query if/whenhe can?
[14:46] <knome> lastnode, last time he said anything here was the 16th
[14:46] <lastnode> oh right
[14:46] <Pici> lastnode: Is this an issue that another operator could help with?
[14:46] <lastnode> thanksgiving etc. i guess right
[14:46] <lastnode> no Pici
[14:47] <lastnode> im just looking for jrib and this is the channel he hangs in with the least traffic
[14:47] <lastnode> :)
[14:47] <lastnode> cool, ill check back later
[14:47] <Pici> lastnode: Your best bet is to send him a memo then.
[14:47] <jussi> lastnode: memo serv is useful here ;)
[14:47] <lastnode> thanks!
[14:47] <lastnode> oh that's right i forgot hyperion has that
[14:47] <lastnode> thanks
[15:59] <Pici> jpds: You keep suggesting useful things and I keep installing them :|
[15:59] <jpds> Pici: I'm good.
[16:00] <jpds> Pici: My personally favourite, however, is sysstat. :)
[16:01] <jpds> personal*
[17:29] <Pici> ugh
[17:29] <IdleOne> what?
[17:31] <Pici> IdleOne: just someone getting a cloak who shouldn't.
[17:31] <IdleOne> oh
[17:33] <Pici> ikonia: around?
[17:43] <ikonia> yes
[17:43] <ikonia> just
[17:43] <Pici> ikonia: blockcold = jungli, correct?
[17:43] <ikonia> correct
[17:43] <Pici> Okay.
[17:45] <Pici> ikonia: Just making sure, seeing as he was just granted a cloak, I thought I'd update our ban list.
[17:45] <ikonia> Pici: staff are well aware of him and his nicks, so if they choose to cloak him I have faith they have thought it through
[17:45] <ikonia> Pici: he also has a bzshell account too
[17:46] <ikonia> got one a couple of days ago
[17:46] <IdleOne> bshellz
[17:46] <IdleOne> but yeah
[17:46] <ikonia> yup
[17:46] <Pici> That too
[17:54] <Pici> ugh. 'chicks'
[17:54] <Pici> Or rather, people who say that.
[17:55] <Pici> I think I'll go distract myself with a meeting.  I can't handle -offtopic right now.
[17:56] <IdleOne> I think you need to remove Agent007.
[17:57] <Pici> But seriously, I do have a meeting in... 3 minutes.
[17:57] <jussi> Im headed in there...
[17:57] <Pici> jussi: Thank you.
[17:58] <Pici> Now I need to depart.
[18:01] <IdleOne> man he is lucky I can't op in there
[18:02] <jussi> I just made the bot ignore them for a while
[18:02] <jussi> :)
[18:03] <IdleOne> it isn't just the botabuse, it's his general trolliness
[18:03] <IdleOne> he seems to make comments to incite
[18:04] <ikonia> he won't again
[18:40] <Pici> Do I even want to read the backsroll there?
[18:40] <IdleOne> probably not
[18:40] <Pici> Good good.
[18:42] <Gulfstream> so... Why was I banned form #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:42] <ikonia> Gulfstream: you where walking a fine line for a long time, messing around with the bot, you claimed you had a reason to do so, then said you where too angry to remember, I've removed you and forwaded you here
[18:43] <Gulfstream> I guess I didn't have much of a reason to mess with the bot
[18:43] <ikonia> you can either justify your behaviour, in which case you'll be let back in, or stop messing around and trying to make a situation
[18:43] <ikonia> Gulfstream: right - so why did you come up with rubbish about sensitve information and say you had a reason
[18:44] <ikonia> all you need to do is say "sure, no problem, I'll stop messing with the bot" then stop it
[18:44] <ikonia> rather than carry on trying to push people
[18:44] <Gulfstream> not sure why... but I wont mess with the bot
[18:45] <ikonia> ok - and I also want you to stop messing with people, trying to create a situation
[18:45] <Gulfstream> okay
[18:46] <Gulfstream> can you tell me the purpose of #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:46] <ikonia> right, so I'll remove the ban, but be warned, any more of your previous behaviour and you'll be removed again
[18:46] <ikonia> the purpose of ubuntu-offtopic is to have friendly offtopic chat with others
[18:46] <ikonia> not directly related to the support of Ubuntu
[18:47] <ikonia> Gulfstream: I've removed the ban, but please keep in mind what I've said, interact with people, don't try to cause a problem or push people
[18:47] <Gulfstream> okay
[18:48] <ikonia> Gulfstream: if you're asked something in future, such as "why are you messing with the bot" answer truthfully rather than coming up with nonsense stories that get you banned
[18:48] <Gulfstream> okay
[18:48] <ikonia> Gulfstream: in that case you're welcome to leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:49] <Gulfstream> so... why is there commands for the bot such as !girls and !boys?
[18:49] <ikonia> Gulfstream: to be used when appropriate
[18:50] <Gulfstream> and when is it appropriate?
[18:50] <ikonia> use your common sense and judgment
[18:50] <ikonia> if you don't know - best not to use it
[18:50] <Gulfstream> okay
[18:50] <IdleOne> Gulfstream: the goal of ubuntu-offtopic is to provide a safe and friendly place for people to talk without having to deal with people being "annoying"
[18:51] <IdleOne> just be nice and you won't have to come back here :)
[18:51] <Gulfstream> okay
[18:53] <Pici> We'll see how that goes.
[18:53] <bilalakhtar> Can someone add me to ubottu so that I could @login?
[18:53] <bilalakhtar> tsimpson: ^
[18:55] <jussi> bilalakhtar: did someone not do it already?
[18:55] <bilalakhtar> @login
[18:55] <bilalakhtar> oh!
[18:55] <jussi> ;)
[18:55] <bilalakhtar> When did this happen? I tried today morning, didn't work
[18:55] <bilalakhtar> jussi: ^
[18:55] <jussi> no idea :D
[18:56]  * tsimpson just did it
[18:56] <bilalakhtar> tsimpson: oh thanks :)
[18:56] <tsimpson> btw, anyone of the ircc should be able to do that
[18:56] <Pici> tsimpson: Is there any way that you can confirm that the #u-w folks are setup properly? Or should I ask one of them to test.
[18:57] <jussi> I went to do it and tsimpson beat me
[18:57] <Tm_T> jussi: harsh, beating you when you tried to be helpful
[18:57] <ikonia> Pici: has it been decided now for #ubuntu-women ?
[18:57] <bilalakhtar> jussi: oh!
[18:57] <Pici> ikonia: it?
[18:57] <ikonia> Pici: #ubuntu-women using BT
[18:58] <Pici> ikonia: Yes, that was decided a bit ago.
[18:58] <ikonia> I missed that one
[18:58] <tsimpson> Pici: looks like they are all set (not that I've done an extensive test)
[18:58] <Pici> tsimpson: okay, thanks :)
[19:20] <jussi> Ubottu.com will get a restart tomorrow about this time, so we will lose bots for a short time.
[19:21] <jussi> a stupid one at that...
[21:03] <rww> Meh. I did ask Agent00* a few times yesterday to quit with the "chick" and "girl" silliness. If they start up again, I think they've had enough warnings.
[21:04] <jussi> rww: its a grreat idea to use @mark when you have spoken to someone like that, it lets us know they have been spoken to so we dont give them the same leeway as they should now know.
[21:05] <rww> ah, I forgot about that. Thanks :)