[02:05] <dmcglone> Hi everyone
[02:05] <Unit193> Hey dmcglone
[02:06] <dmcglone> how ya doing?
[02:06] <Unit193> Testing a distro of linux in VBox
[02:07] <dmcglone> which one?
[02:07] <Unit193> WattOS
[02:07] <dmcglone> any good?
[02:08] <Unit193> I should be testing it on the faster comp....
[02:08] <Unit193> It's supposed to be very light and Ubuntu/Debian
[02:10] <dmcglone> I see
[02:10] <dmcglone> I'm running KDE
[02:10] <dmcglone> it's pretty nice
[02:10] <Unit193> I use Kubuntu of the fast comp
[02:10] <Unit193> on*
[02:11] <dmcglone> I can't get KDE to remember my dual monitor settings though
[02:11] <Unit193> I want dual monitors....
[02:11] <dmcglone> they are nice
[02:12] <Unit193> I have used it... I also have used synergy
[02:12] <dmcglone> was synergy any good?
[02:12] <Unit193> Yes
[02:13] <dmcglone> brb
[02:14] <dmcglone> woah!
[02:15] <dmcglone> I changed my resolution and my monitor went crazy!
[02:15] <Unit193> What were you going for?
[02:15] <dmcglone> 1280x854
[02:15] <dmcglone> on my laptop
[02:15] <Unit193> What do you use now?
[02:16] <Unit193> 1024x768?
[02:16] <dmcglone> 1440x900
[02:16] <dmcglone> I was going to go a tad bit bigger to see if the fonts were bigger
[02:17] <dmcglone> the fonts are kinda small on 1440
[02:17] <dmcglone> do you know how I can re-enable ctrl + alt + backspace to log out in kde?
[02:18] <dmcglone> I can't stand not having that key combo anymore
[02:18] <Unit193> I think it's in the settings....
[02:18] <dmcglone> sounds like you've never used it
[02:18] <Unit193> Not that combo...
[02:20] <dmcglone> what do you use?
[02:21] <Unit193> Click -> Click
[02:21] <Unit193> :)
[02:22] <dmcglone> well when my monitor just went crazy, I couldn't click->click so thats what reminded me of ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:22] <dmcglone> lol
[02:22] <dmcglone> I had to switch to a terminal and kill x
[02:22] <Unit193> Power button
[02:23] <dmcglone> it still brings up a menu to click
[02:23] <dmcglone> ctrl+alt+backspace just logs out no questions asked
[02:26] <dmcglone> I found it
[02:27] <dmcglone> in the keyboard settings there's an option to enable it :-)
[02:28] <dmcglone> go to input devices-> advanced -> key sequence to kill X server and put a check mark by the key combo
[02:29] <dmcglone> now I'm going to try to set the resolution again
[02:29] <Unit193> Good luck!
[02:30] <dmcglone> worked that time
[02:30] <dmcglone> it's somewhat better but not much
[02:31] <Cheri703> dmcglone: I couldn't get it to keep my monitor settings either, but I wrote a script with xrandr that I can just run when I plug in the external
[02:32] <dmcglone> you using gnome Cheri703?
[02:32] <Cheri703> yeah, but isn't x going to be x regardless?
[02:32]  * Cheri703 doesn't know
[02:33] <dmcglone> I'm not sure. on my laptop compiz is crappy with KDE but works great in gnome
[02:33] <dmcglone> and on my desktop compiz works good in KDE but crappy in gnome
[02:34] <Cheri703> well, I'll pastebin the script I wrote and you could try it?
[02:34] <dmcglone> cool thanks
[02:35] <Cheri703> looks like xrandr works in kde
[02:35] <dmcglone> I'm using openGL
[02:35] <Cheri703> first run "xrandr" in terminal and see what you get (should identify the "name" of the second monitor)
[02:35] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[02:35] <Cheri703> *shrug* dunno, worth a shot
[02:36] <dmcglone> I can switch to XRender though, but I don't think it's the same as xrandr
[02:36] <Cheri703> just try typing xrandr into terminal, see if it gives you any output
[02:37] <dmcglone> yes
[02:38] <Cheri703> ok, what 2 monitors do you see?
[02:38] <dmcglone> I'm on my laptop at the moment
[02:39] <dmcglone> lemme check on my desktop
[02:39] <Cheri703> ok
[02:40] <dmcglone> they are both there
[02:40] <dmcglone> one vga and one dvi
[02:40] <Cheri703> also, synergy is awesome if you wanted to link the desktop and the laptop like it's an external monitor...
[02:40] <Cheri703> ok, so which is which?
[02:41] <dmcglone> what do you mean?
[02:41] <Cheri703> which is primary monitor?
[02:42] <dmcglone> the dvi is
[02:42] <Cheri703> ok
[02:42] <krabador> paultag, are you here?
[02:42] <Cheri703> so in the display settings (or your equivalent) set the primary monitor settings to "correct"
[02:42] <paultag> krabador, only just. What's up?
[02:43] <dmcglone> I have
[02:43] <Cheri703> dmcglone: what resolution do you want for the secondary?
[02:43] <krabador> paultag, i #ubuntu-offtopic an user tell me you're a wiimote geek, it's true?
[02:43] <paultag> krabador, how the hell did that get out. Yeah, what's up?
[02:43]  * canthus13 ducks.
[02:43] <deejoe> haha
[02:44] <krabador> paultag, i'm interested to use wiimote on ubuntu
[02:44] <deejoe> no need to duck, I'm sure he always wears the wrist strap
[02:44] <paultag> krabador, cool, what for?
[02:44] <paultag> deejoe, hahahaha
[02:44] <dmcglone> 1280x720 Cheri703
[02:44] <Cheri703> k
[02:45] <krabador> paultag, i want to know if non-official wii controllers are working well with ubuntu libraries
[02:45] <paultag> krabador, yes, non official will work
[02:45] <Cheri703> dmcglone: what is the "proper" name of the vga monitor? VGA1 or?
[02:45] <krabador> paultag, great
[02:45] <paultag> krabador, what are you looking to do with your libs?
[02:45] <dmcglone> yes vga1
[02:45] <paultag> krabador, there are like 2 good ones, 3 if you work hard
[02:46] <Cheri703> dmcglone: do you want it to the left or to the right (or above/below) the primary monitor
[02:46] <dmcglone> right
[02:46] <dmcglone> :-)
[02:46] <Cheri703> k
[02:46] <krabador> paultag, have the wiimote some kind of lag?
[02:46] <paultag> krabador, no
[02:47] <paultag> krabador, I was using it for realtime human interface research work
[02:47] <dmcglone> paultag: trying to do mind control with wii remote ;-)
[02:47] <Cheri703> dmcglone: what is the proper name of the dvi monitor?
[02:48] <paultag> dmcglone, :)
[02:48] <dmcglone> be careful krabador, don't let paultag get ahold of you
[02:48] <krabador> i would use it completely, as pointer, and mediacenter remote. it's too much?
[02:48] <dmcglone> dvi1 Cheri703
[02:48] <Cheri703> ok
[02:48] <paultag> krabador, not at all, you actually don't have to program for that
[02:48] <paultag> krabador, there's something in the repos to let you use it as a mouse / keyboard
[02:49] <paultag> krabador, I was using it so you can get access to the hardware in C, but you don't need that kruft
[02:49] <paultag> krabador, look up cwiid
[02:49] <paultag> krabador, that has a binary in the repos iirc
[02:49] <krabador> paultag, cwiid
[02:49] <paultag> yup
[02:50] <paultag> krabador, it works over bluetooth, just btw
[02:50] <paultag> in case no one told you
[02:50] <krabador> paultag, for staff like xbmc, i must use it as mouse , or i can customize something
[02:50] <paultag> yes krabador
[02:50] <paultag> krabador, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535659  <-- look at the code block that starts with "#IR pointer "
[02:51] <paultag> krabador, that will let you set up how it interacts as a HID
[02:51] <Cheri703> dmcglone: run this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537704/
[02:51] <Cheri703> that should do it for you
[02:51] <Cheri703> in theory
[02:52] <krabador> paultag, it's the reason i asked if unofficials are working too
[02:52] <paultag> challah
[02:52] <paultag> krabador, you should be good to go
[02:52] <paultag> krabador, they idet the same way via the bluez serial socket
[02:53] <paultag> does not matter who's hardware it is, cwiid does not check
[02:53] <krabador> paultag, great. Are you happy of the wiimote's usability
[02:53] <paultag> krabador, yes, I am. I don't use cwiid, so I can't talk about how well it works, but they talk great.
[02:54] <krabador> paultag, do you think something can be improved?
[02:54] <paultag> krabador, yes, lots :)
[02:54] <canthus13> Aww. Leslie Nielson died.
[02:54] <paultag> krabador, but it works, very well
[02:55] <krabador> paultag, nobody is working on it?
[02:55] <paultag> krabador, it's very stable
[02:55] <dmcglone> Thank you Cheri703 I've saved the script and I'll give it a shot in the morning
[02:56] <krabador> paultag, yes i'm looking, but it's very sad if nobody are working on improvements...
[02:56] <Cheri703> ok, awesome
[02:56] <paultag> krabador, send in patches :)
[02:56] <dmcglone> I'm getting ready to shutdown the laptop and move this party upstairs lol
[02:57]  * dmcglone is finishing his pepsi
[02:58] <krabador> paultag, all this stuff seems really great, tomorrow i buy a non-official wiimote (half of the original's price...) and i'll coming to use it . A wireless mouse sucks batteries too :)
[02:58] <paultag> krabador, :)
[02:58] <paultag> krabador, there's tons to hack at
[02:58] <paultag> krabador, it's very easy to program for as well, so be sure to stock up on AAs :)
[02:59] <paultag> I ended up doing some cool stuff with Marble + Wiimotes
[02:59] <paultag> also my swarm sims and stuff
[02:59] <paultag> anywho
[03:00] <canthus13> meh. get rechargables. :)
[03:01] <krabador> i don't understand why only few person, like you, are working on it
[03:01] <krabador> paultag, have you seen about kinetic on pc?
[03:01] <paultag> yeah
[03:02] <paultag> krabador, it's pretty rad
[03:02] <canthus13> MS is already ranting about people making drivers for it...
[03:02] <paultag> hehehe it's great
[03:02] <paultag> canthus13, on NPR the project lead said they would not harrass anyone
[03:03]  * deejoe tried kinect this holiday at the in-law's
[03:03] <canthus13> The project lead has no say.
[03:03] <paultag> true
[03:03] <canthus13> That's like our janitor giving official price breaks.
[03:04] <paultag> true canthus13
[03:04] <canthus13> MS wasn't making threats, just saying that they would do what they had to to keep people from using it for something useful.
[03:06] <krabador> microsoft will take advantage of it on win8
[03:07] <krabador> deejoe, have you tried kinetic on pc, or xbox360?
[03:07] <deejoe> 360
[03:08] <krabador> kinetic can be the next parental control standard.
[03:08] <deejoe> the picture-taking creeps me out
[03:09] <canthus13> deejoe: don't dance naked in front of it.
[03:09] <deejoe> srsly
[03:16]  * paultag coughs
[03:17]  * paultag shifts in his chair
[03:17]  * Cheri703 thinks paultag has been messing with that lightsaber mod in the context of the previous statement
[03:17] <canthus13> Eh?
[03:17] <paultag> Cheri703, I wish :)
[03:17] <canthus13> You danced nekked in front of a kinetic...?
[03:17] <paultag> Cheri703, I actually have not tried playing with the kinetic
[03:17] <canthus13> Ah.
[03:17] <paultag> canthus13, nawww. I would have
[03:18] <Cheri703> have you seen the lightsaber thing?
[03:18] <paultag> BRB, hulu's back
[03:18] <paultag> Cheri703, hell yeah
[03:18] <paultag> brb
[03:19] <krabador> paultag, it's possble configure the zoom, with cwiid?
[03:31] <Cheri703> OMG I'm so fed up with my boss
[03:31]  * Cheri703 is actually hoping they refuse the contract she puts forth next month
[03:35] <Unit193> That bad?
[03:37] <Cheri703> yeah...got a text tonight "bring <item she'd given me> tomorrow and email me the excel spreadsheets" "uhm, what spreadsheets?" "the ones you made with the info I'd given you" (this info had been given with NO instructions whatsoever, just handed to me) "also, did you complete the elearning?" (received NO info about elearning needing to be completed in any capacity)  All of this after getting a text at 9:40pm to be at her house at
[03:37] <Cheri703> 8:30 for a meeting since we didn't have one friday (since she was out of town) >.<
[03:38] <Cheri703> (this may seem like a small thing, but on top of everything else, it's ridiculous)
[03:39] <Unit193> Are you the only underling?
[03:39] <Cheri703> basically
[03:39] <Cheri703> and I get paid VERY little
[03:39] <Unit193> lucky you...
[03:40] <Cheri703> oh yes
[03:42] <Unit193> What is your job again?
[03:43] <canthus13> Cheri703: Can't be much worse than what I've been making...
[03:43] <Cheri703> my job is a little bit of a lot of things, but primarily setup and training on xerox copiers
[03:43] <Cheri703> canthus13: I seriously doubt that
[03:43]  * canthus13 makes just under 16 bucks an hour. :(
[03:44] <Cheri703> HA!!
[03:44] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm worse
[03:44]  * Cheri703 makes $300/week and is supposed to take her own taxes out of it, and is expected to work at least 40 hours per week and her delusional boss thinks she should work even more than that...for those who don't want to do the math, at 40 hours / week, that comes out to $7.50/hour >.<
[03:44] <canthus13> Ew.
[03:45] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:45] <canthus13> Want a job?
[03:45] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:45] <Cheri703> but I'm in mansfield and if/when I leave this job I'll not have a car :/
[03:45] <canthus13> AH. that sucks. :(
[03:45] <Cheri703> could I telecommute? :)
[03:45] <canthus13> Nope.
[03:45] <Cheri703> they provide my vehicle
[03:45] <Cheri703> bummer
[03:45] <Cheri703> I would KILL to make $16/hour
[03:46] <Cheri703> my husband is on unemployment right now, together we bring in $531/week...which is juuuuuust barely enough, and nothing for extras :(
[03:46] <canthus13> They start part time where I work...
[03:46]  * Cheri703 is po'
[03:46] <canthus13> 14.05/hr, benefits.
[03:47]  * Cheri703 is drooling over here
[03:47] <canthus13> If you decide you wanna jump ship and move to Toledo, lemme know, and I'll put in a word for ya.
[03:47] <canthus13> We seem to hire new people every 2-3 months.
[03:48] <Cheri703> hmmmmm...k
[03:48] <Cheri703> my lease is up in april
[03:48] <Cheri703> we'll see at that point
[03:48] <Cheri703> we're hoping to stay around here if possible, but...if no jobs, then we'll go :/
[03:48] <canthus13> And if you can deal with people who have trouble with pushing buttons on a copier, you should be able to handle phone support. :)
[03:48] <Cheri703> I don't want to, we like our landlord
[03:48] <Cheri703> ha, yeah
[03:48] <canthus13> If nothing else, you don't have to *smell* the people you're dealing with. :)
[03:49] <Cheri703> heh, definitely
[03:49] <Cheri703> if I could telecommute, I'd take it in a heartbeat
[03:49] <canthus13> So would I. :)
[03:49]  * Cheri703 would love to have a telecommuting job
[03:49] <Cheri703> :)
[03:49] <canthus13> There's a company in TX that does telecommute support, advertises all the time... but you have to live somewhere in TX.
[03:50]  * canthus13 may end up down there working for Hostgator someday.. they hire a LOT of linux admins and support people... and I know a few people working there.
[03:51] <Cheri703> nice
[03:51]  * Cheri703 has considered san antonio in the past
[03:51] <Cheri703> is there a part of tx that isn't stupid hot in the summer?
[03:51] <canthus13> I spend 6 years of my childhood in San Antonio.
[03:51] <canthus13> No.
[03:51] <Cheri703> :/
[03:51] <deejoe> I bet if you dig deep enough down, you could find someplace ;-)
[03:51] <Cheri703> maaaaybe
[03:52] <canthus13> You get used to the heat, though... And the hill country (around New Braunfels) isn't quite as bad...
[03:52] <Cheri703> yeah, kind of how scottsdale az is MUCH nicer than phoenix
[03:52]  * Cheri703 could deal with scottsdale, not so much with phoenix
[03:52] <canthus13> Not that much better.. just a little less humid.
[03:53] <Cheri703> :/
[03:53] <Cheri703> ok
[03:54] <Cheri703> ugh, I just want something low stress...my last job was menial, but high stress due to drama hungry manager, then thought this one would be good, and the bosses are psycho/delusional/greedy/liars/taking advantage of me... >.<
[03:55] <Cheri703> Ideally it'd be IT related, but honestly, if it paid more than $9/hour, then I'd take it at this point :( at least for a while
[03:57] <canthus13> Tech support can be high stress if you take the callers too personally.. but once you realize they're just a bunch of angry sheeple that can't operate a doorknob without close supervision, it gets easy.
[03:57] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:58] <Cheri703> there's a call center in town that says "support" but I think it's non-technical stuff
[03:58] <canthus13> Ooo.. Toaster support. :)
[03:59] <Cheri703> I guess
[03:59]  * Cheri703 has helped people with things like that though
[04:04] <Unit193> You can deal with computer idiots at home?
[04:05] <Cheri703> ?
[04:06] <Unit193> At work they can be a pain, but they only have to do a set thing...
[04:07] <Cheri703> freaking chase bank
[04:07] <Cheri703> their website has been down a ton lately
[04:07] <Cheri703> it's pissing me off
[04:09] <Cheri703> Unit193: I deal with idiots EVERYWHERE
[04:09] <Cheri703> but yeah, I go to people's homes to help them with stuff
[04:09] <canthus13> Unit193: Oh. idiots in their own homes.. Only via phone. :)
[04:13] <Unit193> canthus13: That is not a job I want... IS for a hospital or company
[04:13] <Unit193> Can't deal with people....
[04:16] <canthus13> Unit193: I had a hard time at first...It's easy now, though.  Even though we don't work from scripts/flowcharts (We're expected to know our shit, and be able to research on the fly when necessary), I've worked up my own standard routine in my head and work the common issues on autopilot.
[04:56]  * Cheri703 is trying to buckle down and read in her comptia network+ book...
[04:56] <Cheri703> and I'm having difficulty focusing :(
[04:57] <Unit193> Can't help there..... I can make it harder :)
[04:57] <Cheri703> heh
[04:58] <Cheri703> well, I have 3 big things I'm trying to work on in the next few weeks: prep my resume, prep the contract to present to bosses, try to study for comptia
[04:58] <Cheri703> and thursday (after ubuntu hour) I'm going to meet with someone about my resume, I've got some calls in to people about the contract, so this is the only one that I can work on in "spare" time
[04:58] <Cheri703> but I have difficulty focusing on it
[04:59] <Unit193> I still think I can make it to UH....
[05:00] <Unit193> Trying to stay in town?
[05:00] <Cheri703> awesome Unit193
[05:00] <Cheri703> stay in town for? job?
[05:00] <Unit193> Job
[05:01] <Cheri703> yeah, ideally. we have til april on our lease, but we like the house and the landlords, so if we can find work, we'll stay
[05:01] <Cheri703> if not, then we'll have to go
[05:02] <Unit193> I'm not going to be reloco,.... ;)
[05:03] <Cheri703> ?
[05:05] <Unit193> joking... your reloco lead...
[05:06] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[05:06]  * Cheri703 is all over the place tonight
[05:06] <Cheri703> stress = bleh
[05:08] <Unit193> I don't think I can help with that...
[05:08] <Cheri703> it's ok :)
[05:09] <Cheri703> I was just setting some stuff in my router :)
[05:09] <Cheri703> assigning static ip via mac address
[05:10] <Unit193> How is the web server going?
[05:11] <Cheri703> eh
[05:11] <Cheri703> sort of is, sort of isn't
[05:11] <Cheri703> I'm gradually learning how to set things up
[05:11] <Cheri703> atm I have apache and an outward facing folder, and all kinds of ssh crap set up, and remote access junk, but it's a slow process
[05:13] <Unit193> What type of remote access do you use?
[05:13] <Unit193> Do any SSH tunneling?
[05:13] <Cheri703> some
[05:13] <Cheri703> I have been doing most of my stuff via ssh -X or ssh -Y -C
[05:14]  * canthus13 cuddles ssh.
[05:15]  * Unit193 Has even setup SSH in windows :)
[05:15] <Cheri703> I'd like to mess with it in windows
[05:15] <Cheri703> at christmas, my parents are coming and bringing ALL of their computers and their router so I can set up some networky goodness for them
[05:15]  * canthus13 uses PuTTY in windows.
[05:15] <canthus13> Heh. sounds fun.
[05:16] <Cheri703> should be interesting
[05:16] <Cheri703> I'll also be setting up my mom's new laptop (lenovo black friday deal)
[05:16] <Cheri703> hopefully putting ubuntu on it
[05:17] <Unit193> Is there anyway to have Ubuntu with dvd support and stuff like that out of the agovx?
[05:17] <Unit193> box
[05:18] <Cheri703> ubuntu customization kit perhaps?
[05:18] <Cheri703> you can make a custom iso
[05:20] <Cheri703> ok boys, I'm off to bed. have a good night.
[05:20] <Unit193> You too!
[05:20] <canthus13> 'nite.
[18:31] <deejoe> paultag: trying to follow along: what's "LD"?
[18:31] <paultag> deejoe, LoCo Directory -- loco.ubuntu.com
[18:32] <deejoe> aight
[18:32] <deejoe> thanks
[19:15] <canthus13>  
[19:15] <canthus13>  
[19:15] <canthus13>  
[19:16] <deejoe> how insightful
[19:16] <canthus13> bah.
[19:16] <canthus13> screen decided to freak out when I recovered.
[19:16] <deejoe> oh
[22:31] <canthus13> Woo. yay for liveCDs. :)
[22:31] <BiosElement> Yay haha
[22:32] <canthus13> friggin' windows self-destructed on my test machine here at work.  blue screens constantly.
[22:32]  * canthus13 just happened to have a Backtrack3 LiveCD in his desk. :)