[03:10] <cyberanger> wrst: alive
[03:10] <cyberanger> hey chris4585
[03:14] <elijah-mbp> *heh*
[03:14] <elijah-mbp> i laugh at people who show up in irc channels, ask if anybody is around, and then leave 2min later.  just happened in #joyent - what a pain.
[03:17] <cyberanger> seems common unfortunately
[03:18] <elijah-mbp> very.
[03:18] <elijah-mbp> i just tweeted to his #ircnick, maybe he'll see that :)
[03:30] <chris4585> just got home from TN
[03:30] <chris4585> been in a car 14hrs
[04:18] <Juzzy> any of you guys use netflix?
[04:18] <Juzzy> Is the list of movies/show you see as a visitor the same if you are a member? (realativley small number, 20 or so per category)
[04:24] <chris4585> meh I just use my playstation and the ps store
[04:28] <Juzzy> ah
[04:29] <chris4585> I tried the netflix thing on the ps3 but it wanted a credit card and I was like... eh maybe later
[04:29] <Juzzy> yea
[07:34] <cyberanger> I'm sure somebody will get a kick outta this: http://imgur.com/gallery/siGDR
[12:05] <chris4585> cyberanger, lol
[12:26] <cyberanger> chris4585: glad you like it
[12:27] <cyberanger> run it as root, just to be sure, nothing works when run as bp
[12:54] <wrst> morning everyone!
[13:24] <cyberanger> morning wrst, just had my dinner, steak and shake, yum
[13:24] <wrst> ahh yes been a while but i love me some steak and shake!
[13:24] <cyberanger> where'd wrst_natty go
[13:24] <cyberanger> ?
[13:26] <cyberanger> wrst: I'm fairly sure you have a sns there, why not go now ;-)
[13:26] <wrst> work kinda in the way, and its in cookeville!
[13:27] <cyberanger> btw, I meant dinner, steak and shake meal, double steak burger, strawberry shake, fries and chili, not breakfeast
[13:28] <wrst> yeah i have given up on you ever sleeping a  normal schedule cyberanger :)
[13:28] <wrst> what have you been up to?
[13:28] <cyberanger> wrst: fairly sure, near the interstate, thought I saw it in aug.
[13:29] <wrst> oh yeha i've been there several times :) but i'm not in cookeville right now
[13:29] <cyberanger> well, that'sright for sleep, goes for meal time and type too
[13:29] <cyberanger> where are you then?
[13:30] <wrst> i work in monterey, live in livingston, but go to cookeville to do anything else
[13:32] <cyberanger> I've been planning out a makerspace/coderspace/hackerspace, working on shipping logistics (alaskan bush, not as dead simple as I'd wish)
[13:32] <cyberanger> and trying to come up with some ideas for #swissknife-router
[13:33] <cyberanger> not to metion, looking for work
[13:34] <cyberanger> wrst: so to sum up my answer, everything I can
[13:36] <wrst> cool cyberanger
[13:37]  * cyberanger tries to recall where montery is
[13:38] <wrst> east of cookeville in putnam county cyberanger
[13:39] <cyberanger> interstate or federal route go through it
[13:40]  * cyberanger is tring to recall a trip where I've been through there, odds are good that I have
[13:41] <cyberanger> rotten problem of being carless, the trips become rare, easy to forgeet
[13:44] <wrst> you would have missed it if you had blinked
[13:44] <cyberanger> wrst: sounds like I've been that way, back in 2009 I'd bet
[13:45] <wrst> yeah i'm sure you have been not much worth having here :)
[13:46] <cyberanger> the name sounds fimmilar (plus your statement on rual area) it'd been for rock climbing probally
[13:54] <wrst> that coudl have been possible
[13:55] <cyberanger> idk, it's hard to say wrst, I'm the kinda person that'd go anywhere once, like rock climbing and rafting
[13:56] <cyberanger> rock climbing in that area is common
[13:56] <cyberanger> I know it wasn't skydiving........yet
[13:57]  * cyberanger really want's to jump out of a perfectly good airborne plane
[13:57] <wrst> cyberanger: you are crazy!
[13:57] <cyberanger> yeah, but I'm your kind of crazy
[13:58] <cyberanger> many of my ideas are crazy, the question is are they crazy enough ;-)
[14:02] <cyberanger> wrst: who else is crazy enough to irc chat with 20kbps or less :-)
[14:04]  * cyberanger is a crazy geek
[14:07] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger
[14:07] <wrst> i will certainly pass on teh 20kbps or less :)
[15:31] <Dan9186[MM]> any suggestions on a firewall management app?
[15:39] <cyberanger> Dan9186[MM]: for what firewall?
[15:41] <Dan9186[MM]> found what i was wanting actually, just couldn't remember the name of it
[15:41] <Dan9186[MM]> iptables
[15:43] <cyberanger> ah, good ol' netfilter iptables combo, my choice too
[15:46] <cyberanger> when you said management app, though you possibly wanted a frontend for iptables or a cisco device
[15:49] <Dan9186[MM]> front end would be nice, mostly though i just look to yall for suggestions of any type because i learn somethin new every time
[15:50] <Svpernova09> iptables? /runs away in the other direction screaming
[15:50] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: what's the fear?
[15:51] <Dan9186[MM]> he doesn't like ubuntu :P
[15:51] <Dan9186[MM]> just throwin that out there
[15:51] <Svpernova09> lol
[15:51]  * Dan9186[MM] runs away in fear
[15:51] <Svpernova09> I've had horrible experiences with iptables.
[15:51] <Svpernova09> Mainly my own lack of understanding / willing to fully understand the proper usage
[15:52] <cyberanger> iptables isn't ubuntu, it's any modern linux kernel
[15:52] <Dan9186[MM]> i.e. how do you bring a system to a screeming halt?
[15:52] <Svpernova09> And I've never been in a position where I've had to use it. I've always depended on hardware firewalls. Which is probably not ideal.
[15:52] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: knowing what your doing helps, what were you wishing todo
[15:53] <Dan9186[MM]> cyberanger: yeah knew that, was just lookin to throw some more grief his way
[15:53] <Svpernova09> oh, this was ages ago.
[15:53] <Dan9186[MM]> when you say that i envision dinosaurs...
[15:53] <cyberanger> idk, I use a hardware firewall myself, the firewall ran linux ;-)
[15:55] <cyberanger> hardware is favored, but the hardware's gotta run software to do it's job, to do it's job right, it must be secure too
[15:55] <Svpernova09> Here at work we use 2 Linksys RV082 routers. I've got some pretty awesome stuff happening with it's software.
[15:58] <cyberanger> if I recall, those are linux too
[15:59] <Svpernova09> I believe they are. I haven't done anything outside of the web management though. They're both in production use since the day we bought them.
[16:00] <Svpernova09> Any tinkering has to be done off hours.
[16:01] <cyberanger> naw, you can do it ;-)
[16:01] <cyberanger> tinker the hell outta it
[16:02] <cyberanger> mine are 24/7 I just get it right or revert back
[16:05] <Svpernova09> hehe
[16:14] <cyberanger> failure is ok, the only wrong answer is never trying, and giving up
[16:16] <cyberanger> but I try hard to get it right the first time
[18:01] <wrst> hello pace_t_zulu
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> hey wrst
[18:01] <wrst> how are you doing pace_t_zulu?
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> good, yourself?
[18:02] <wrst> pretty good natty has gotten interesting
[18:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: how so?
[18:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you using that unity ppa?
[18:04] <wrst> that pretty well caused things to get really bad, so i reinstalled and have not gotten things working yet
[18:04] <wrst> going to downloa the daily and see what happens when i get home
[18:11] <pace_t_zulu>  wrst yea... natty is a lot smoother than a week ago
[18:11] <wrst> yeah but that's cool that's part of it :)
[18:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrst it is fun to watch
[18:11] <wrst> yes it really is
[19:40] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: the current daily live iso for natty installs without a hitch
[19:41] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: new compiz packages have landed since the daily live iso was built
[19:41] <wrst> i need to pick that up pace_t_zulu
[19:41] <wrst> wow pace_t_zulu, its netritious
[19:41] <netritious> lol hi wrst
[19:41] <pace_t_zulu> hey netritious
[19:42] <netritious> hey pace_t_zulu
[19:42] <pace_t_zulu> they're applying the new branding to wiki.ubuntu.co
[19:42] <pace_t_zulu> the new branding is only there if you don't log in
[19:42] <netritious> how was everyone's Thanksgiving?
[19:42] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: yes I noticed that
[19:46] <wrst> it was good and hectice netritious how about you?
[19:47] <netritious> same for me...driving to one side of town then opposite direction for the other...every year lol
[19:48] <netritious> but it's all good...i love all the food I don't get to eat most of the year and seeing family of course
[19:51] <wrst> we head from the northern part of the state to the southern part of the state... luckily TN isn't nearly as thick as it is wide
[19:52] <netritious> hehe yeah...my travels aren't nearly as rough as yours
[19:52] <netritious> so are you surprised to see me wrst? :P
[19:52] <wrst> mine aren't too bad netritious, but sometimes i like to just be lazy for a holiday
[19:52] <wrst> yeah netritious you have been a busy man lately
[19:53] <netritious> true but won't ever forget about the loco ;)
[19:54] <wrst> but i'm glad business is good for you
[19:54] <netritious> thanks wrst...been flooded with repairs for the past few months
[19:55] <wrst> that's cool i enjoy doing some repairs albeit i'm not as skilled as you but I enjoy taking things apart
[19:55] <netritious> jumping from desktop to desktop isn't conducive to holding an online conversation if you know what I mean
[19:55] <netritious> Windows and ignorance unfortunately keeps me in business
[19:56] <netritious> but even that business is better than no business ;)
[19:57] <netritious> and forgot to add storms...the storm season took out a few computers...ppl bring them to me to certify for their insurance companies
[19:58] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: another build of compiz...
[19:58] <pace_t_zulu> 2 in one day... interesting
[19:58] <netritious> idk what it is about northern MS wrst, but something is up with the general wiring or maybe the utility company...
[19:58] <wrst> wow pace_t_zulu, sounds cool to me :)
[19:59] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: do you need a certification to certify those computers?
[19:59] <wrst> netritious: i have that issue here at my work... but my house less than 20 miles away never an issue
[20:01] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: I don't think so
[20:02] <netritious> I got my A+ a decade ago though if it ever comes up
[20:02] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: so how does the insurance company know you are legit?
[20:02] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: so did i ... never needed it though
[20:03] <netritious> I have no idea. They do call the shop according to my partner so maybe that's the only check they do...to verify you are brick and mortar
[20:03] <netritious> they pay so little though I don't think it's a great loss to them
[20:03] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: so you have a shop with a physical address ...
[20:03] <netritious> of course..2136 W Stateline Rd Suite I Southaven MS 38637
[20:04] <netritious> I'm usually not there though ;)
[20:04] <netritious> if it's only one or two PCs I do the work at the shop, otherwise I load them up and bring them to the house where I have more space
[20:05] <netritious> wrong zip...38671
[20:05] <wrst> well placed plug netritious :)
[20:06] <netritious> :D
[20:09] <netritious> built a new server for a local payroll processing firm...the old server works but outdated...built the old one 8 years ago
[20:10] <netritious> other than that everyone is buying name brand now, minus a few hobbyists that appreciate a computer with nice OEM parts
[20:10] <netritious> what about you pace_t_zulu...you doing consulting still or working full time some where?
[20:11] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: both
[20:11] <netritious> cool..what kind of consulting do you provide?
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: ill defined
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: "IT Consulting"
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: maybe i could get some ideas from you
[20:15] <netritious> well you have to start somewhere, right?
[20:15] <netritious> sure hit me up anytime
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: yea... that's the idea
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: cool
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: thanks
[20:16] <netritious> np
[20:16] <wrst> this is interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/24/armys-revolutionary-rifle-use-afghanistan/?test=faces
[20:16] <netritious> that is a bad ass rifle
[20:17] <netritious> "range of roughly 2,300 feet"
[20:18] <netritious> that's almost half a mile
[20:19] <wrst> yeah and that whole being able to have it to explode above and just beyond the barrier is just bad
[20:19] <netritious> I'm not into guns but I'm into high tech and that rifle definitely fits the bill
[20:21] <netritious> my wife on the other hand IS into guns...she got her carry permit renewed this year
[20:22] <netritious> she used to not be, but worked in a really bad part of town a while back (a company that finally moved to the other side of memphis long after everyone else had)
[20:23] <netritious> so I talked her into going to Range Masters and taking the course, choosing a weapon, and getting her permit
[20:27] <wrst> i'm not a real gun person but i do like to go out and shoot some inanimate object from time to time
[20:29] <netritious> well after she got there and started shooting she fell in love lol...she practices down on some property in byhalia owned by my uncle
[20:30] <netritious> I did a bit of deer and quail hunting with my dad when I was a kid using a good ole scatter gun and rifle, but I've never shot a pistol
[20:31] <wrst> i'm not a hunter really, i like farm raised food
[20:31] <netritious> I got into bow hunting when I was a teenager, but haven't been hunting since I was 18-19
[20:31] <wrst> and by that i mean i like beef pork etc not a vegan :)
[20:31] <netritious> hehe :D
[20:31] <wrst> you cant get to looking like me by being a vegan :)
[20:32] <netritious> lol...you a big guy wrst? I am, but it's slowly going away...had to break down and buy some new clothes this year
[20:34] <netritious> I kept buying belts but eventually that stopped working lol
[20:34] <wrst> ha ha netritious well i'm getting there i've put my self on a diet
[20:34] <wrst> i stay pretty active or i wouldn't fit between the door post :)
[20:35] <netritious> lol
[20:35] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: from the article "costs up to $35,000 per unit"...
[20:35] <wrst> yes i saw that pace_t_zulu wow
[20:35] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: for that amount of money it better be a bad a** weapon ;)
[20:36] <wrst> sounds like it is
[20:36] <netritious> but then again we're talking about government sales where hammers cost $20,000
[20:36] <wrst> but dont' guess i would ever be legally able or financially able to purchase :)
[20:36] <netritious> brb
[20:36] <wrst> oh gosh netritious don't get me started, or i will go right wing whacko
[20:36] <netritious> lol
[20:38] <wrst> but hey pace_t_zulu maybe the rifle uses linux?
[20:38] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: with that price tag? unlikely... it probably runs windows server
[20:39]  * pace_t_zulu is kidding
[20:40] <wrst> ha ha pace_t_zulu
[20:40] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: they have to relicense it for each new user
[20:41] <wrst> ha ha
[20:45] <wrst> well pace_t_zulu i will have natty downloaded when i get home
[20:46] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: zsync?
[20:46] <wrst> no just did the html download i need to do that. i did that with maverick and forget
[20:46] <wrst> *forgot
[21:01] <chris4585> wrst, do you use amazon mp3?
[21:02] <wrst> chris4585: i do some
[21:02] <wrst> good selection and drm free my type of place :)
[21:02] <chris4585> wrst, you may enjoy this http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=tsm_1_fb_dmget3mp3s_20101129?docId=1000634471
[21:03] <chris4585> and anyone else, enter that code in and get $3 worth of amazon mp3 credit
[21:03] <wrst> wow thanks chris4585!
[21:04] <chris4585> yep :)
[21:05] <chris4585> nothing like free stuff
[21:06] <wrst> you got that right!
[21:12] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you should be able to update the iso by taking your command prompt to the directory containing the recent iso
[21:13] <pace_t_zulu> then run the following command
[21:13] <pace_t_zulu>  zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[21:13] <pace_t_zulu> adjusting for correct arch
[21:13] <wrst> yeah i think i can do that, seems like i did that last time also
[21:14] <wrst> thanks for the reminder pace_t_zulu!
[21:14] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: should save some time
[21:15] <wrst> goodness yeah saves a bunch of time, this is my first go of downloading teh iso
[21:15] <wrst> well iv'e treid it two other times and had a fail of sometype i hope this is successful
[21:16] <wrst> pace_t_zulu:  are you running it in a VM ?
[21:18] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yea
[21:20] <wrst> its grub sorta messed things up for me but not for sure if that was it or me or somethign inbetween :)
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: just did an install from the daily today
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> you should be ok
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> no major differences from maverick
[21:22] <wrst> yeah i will install it if i am ok or not :)
[21:23] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: alpha 1 this thursday
[21:23] <pace_t_zulu> alpha 1 gets 2 months
[21:37] <netritious> back
[21:40] <wrst> cool pace_t_zulu i may be ahead of the curve hopefully
[21:40] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you are definitely ahead of the curve
[21:41] <wrst> ha ha