| === JesusFreak316_ is now known as JesusFreak316 | ||
| Humpel | hi there | 10:02 |
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| Humpel | i just installed ubuntu studio 10.10, but I cannot connect any usb midi device within jack | 10:02 |
| Humpel | e.g. I plug in a Keystation 49, or a midisport 2*4. They show up in Jack connections, but I cannot connect them to anything | 10:03 |
| Humpel | software synth (qsynth) is worling fine, virtual keyboard too. | 10:03 |
| Humpel | any idea ?? Do i need special rights for be able to connect things on usb-midi ? | 10:03 |
| Humpel | cannot connect them to anything = i select midi input (e.g. the Keystation) and output (e.g. qsynth) and click on connect, but nothing happens | 10:05 |
| holstein | hey Humpel | 13:53 |
| holstein | just double check your connections | 13:53 |
| holstein | you might need to make audio connections | 13:53 |
| holstein | in my experience | 13:53 |
| holstein | going to JACK2 | 13:53 |
| holstein | some things changed in there | 13:53 |
| holstein | *in JACK connect | 13:54 |
| holstein | and i use a package called a2jmidid | 13:54 |
| Humpel | well.. audio works fine when using virt. Keyboard and qsynth | 13:54 |
| holstein | to connect my keystation 49 to synths | 13:54 |
| holstein | interesting | 13:55 |
| holstein | im not using 10.10 myself | 13:55 |
| Humpel | it is just I cannot connect any usb-midi thing. they all show up, but I just can't connect anything to it | 13:55 |
| holstein | im using 10.04 with falktx's PPA (from KXstudio) | 13:55 |
| holstein | Humpel: try a2jmidid | 13:55 |
| Humpel | I'll givr it a try | 13:56 |
| holstein | i could see everything in ladish | 13:56 |
| Humpel | tnx for the info ;) | 13:56 |
| holstein | or some other connections panel | 13:56 |
| holstein | and just couldnt make the connections | 13:56 |
| holstein | and that did the trick | 13:56 |
| holstein | the other suggestion was to not let JACK manage the midi connections | 13:56 |
| holstein | apparently there is a checkbox in the setup somewhere | 13:57 |
| holstein | BUT a2jmidid did what i needed | 13:57 |
| holstein | SO i didnt try it | 13:57 |
| Humpel | well... jack and midi works when connecting virt.keyb and qsynth ;) | 13:58 |
| Humpel | strange things happening.... | 13:58 |
| holstein | yup | 13:58 |
| holstein | that was my experience | 13:58 |
| holstein | i could use virt keyboard | 13:58 |
| holstein | and not my keystation | 13:58 |
| Humpel | a2jmidid and ladish... got it, will try it ;) | 13:58 |
| holstein | Humpel: try #opensourcemusicians | 13:59 |
| Humpel | it's not only the keystation... no midisport 2*4 and no midi-usb-cable | 13:59 |
| holstein | [lsd] over there is a midi guy | 13:59 |
| Humpel | holstein, IRC? www? | 13:59 |
| holstein | using 10.10 | 13:59 |
| Humpel | ah... got it (irc) | 13:59 |
| holstein | :) | 13:59 |
| Humpel | tnx for the help/info ;) | 14:00 |
| holstein | anytime | 14:00 |
| * holstein heading out for a bit... | 14:00 | |
| Humpel | holstein: ahhh... I got it working... finally. thanks to this page:http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/faq/start?redirect=1#qwhat_is_the_difference_between_jack-midi_and_alsa-midi | 16:19 |
| Humpel | jack has been set up to use alsa_raw. So now I have switched to alsa_seq and voila... now I can connect everything the way I want to. Hooray! | 16:20 |
| ventrik | holstein, so I've tried all the 10.xx.xx distros | 16:48 |
| ventrik | Of Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Mint, Both Live and not live, Alt CDs and DVDs and regular CDs and DVDss | 16:49 |
| ventrik | And studio | 16:49 |
| ventrik | And all get that GPU error before boot finishes | 16:49 |
| ventrik | I think the /only/ way to get around this is to have someone compile the correct drivers I need into the distro | 16:50 |
| ventrik | Unless there is some sort of code I can input into the boot line (from grub/bootloader) that will cause the OS to boost without a GUI and then I'd just type in the directory of an external drive that I have with the driver in it and then execute that, then reboot, and then have my driver working. | 16:51 |
| holstein | Humpel: w00t :) | 16:56 |
| holstein | ventrik: its going to be tricky for sure | 16:58 |
| holstein | good luck | 16:58 |
| Humpel | holstein: ;) | 16:58 |
| holstein | have you found someone with you GPU? | 16:58 |
| holstein | ventrik: i used the alternate CD | 18:49 |
| holstein | this weekend | 18:49 |
| holstein | and installed a command line only system | 18:49 |
| holstein | no reason why you cant to that | 18:49 |
| holstein | OR get into recovery mode | 18:50 |
| holstein | a shell to do what you need to do | 18:50 |
| ventrik | Recovery mode wont boot | 18:58 |
| ventrik | GUI error | 18:58 |
| holstein | right | 18:58 |
| holstein | you'll have to google around about how to get into tha recovery shell | 18:58 |
| ventrik | Done that o.o | 18:58 |
| holstein | ive booted into it before | 18:58 |
| ventrik | I posted on the forums | 18:58 |
| holstein | ventrik: how about another graphics card | 18:59 |
| holstein | ? | 18:59 |
| holstein | i got a stack of them | 18:59 |
| holstein | if you were closer :) | 18:59 |
| holstein | get one at a charity shop | 18:59 |
| holstein | ventrik: how did forcing vesa work? | 18:59 |
| holstein | if i were you , i woud be using 2 cds | 19:00 |
| holstein | a normal hardy iso | 19:00 |
| holstein | and a normal lucid iso | 19:00 |
| holstein | maybe a couple more for testing | 19:00 |
| holstein | knoppix and puppy | 19:00 |
| ventrik | I've burned all my stack of 50 lol | 19:01 |
| ventrik | And I can't swap my GPU | 19:01 |
| ventrik | This is a lapto | 19:01 |
| ventrik | p | 19:01 |
| holstein | vesa should work | 19:02 |
| holstein | has it? | 19:02 |
| holstein | with puppy? | 19:02 |
| holstein | i use puppy because there is a prompt at boot | 19:02 |
| holstein | to use vesa | 19:02 |
| holstein | and its easy to test | 19:02 |
| holstein | ventrik: how did hardy boot live? | 19:03 |
| ventrik | What's Hardy? | 19:04 |
| holstein | 8.04 | 19:04 |
| holstein | the last long term support | 19:04 |
| ventrik | Oh I only could find 1010 and 1004 | 19:04 |
| holstein | http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ | 19:05 |
| holstein | you'll need to play detective | 19:05 |
| holstein | see how you can get to the desktop | 19:05 |
| holstein | using what driver | 19:05 |
| holstein | and looking at the xorg.conf | 19:06 |
| ventrik | Well I'm out of disks | 19:07 |
| ventrik | And at school | 19:07 |
| ventrik | lol | 19:07 |
| ventrik | So I'll try that after finals I suppose | 19:07 |
| holstein | you can do it | 19:07 |
| holstein | it will work | 19:08 |
| holstein | :) | 19:08 |
| soulknife | should i have jackd1 or jackd2 installed? | 21:11 |
| holstein | soulknife: which ever really | 21:11 |
| holstein | unless there is something specific you need | 21:11 |
| soulknife | holstein, ty | 21:11 |
| holstein | im running 10.04 with falktx's ppa | 21:12 |
| holstein | from the KXstudio distro | 21:12 |
| soulknife | holstein, okay. i was having issues getting the jack server to start. i am in ubuntu 10.10 trying to get jack up and running :/ | 21:12 |
| holstein | that has JACK2 | 21:12 |
| soulknife | holstein, gotcha | 21:12 |
| holstein | i didnt see anything really crazy important about upgrading | 21:12 |
| holstein | 10.10 should have jack2 | 21:13 |
| soulknife | holstein, it does | 21:13 |
| holstein | soulknife: what are the errors? | 21:13 |
| soulknife | holstein, 16:12:48.452 Patchbay deactivated. | 21:13 |
| soulknife | 16:12:48.469 Statistics reset. | 21:13 |
| soulknife | Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory | 21:13 |
| soulknife | Cannot connect to server socket | 21:13 |
| soulknife | jack server is not running or cannot be started | 21:13 |
| soulknife | 16:12:48.477 ALSA connection graph change. | 21:13 |
| soulknife | 16:12:48.675 ALSA connection change. | 21:13 |
| holstein | soulknife: try | 21:13 |
| soulknife | do i need to kill also? | 21:13 |
| holstein | sudo qjackctl | 21:13 |
| holstein | and see if it'll start | 21:13 |
| soulknife | sudo qjackctl | 21:13 |
| holstein | yup | 21:13 |
| soulknife | gotcha | 21:13 |
| holstein | *just as a test | 21:13 |
| holstein | if it starts as su | 21:13 |
| holstein | then we know where to look | 21:14 |
| soulknife | nope. | 21:14 |
| soulknife | it failed. | 21:14 |
| holstein | what are the device settings? | 21:14 |
| soulknife | lots of erros | 21:14 |
| holstein | actually | 21:14 |
| holstein | lets step back a bit | 21:14 |
| holstein | what device are you tying to use? | 21:14 |
| holstein | the internal card? | 21:14 |
| soulknife | i think i had a problem like this before. and it was because i had alsa running | 21:15 |
| soulknife | and yes. onboard audio | 21:15 |
| holstein | in a terminal | 21:15 |
| holstein | do you see the sound device when you run | 21:15 |
| holstein | lspci | 21:15 |
| holstein | ? | 21:15 |
| soulknife | holstein, Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (r | 21:15 |
| holstein | cool | 21:16 |
| holstein | also in the terminal | 21:16 |
| holstein | run | 21:16 |
| holstein | aplay -l | 21:16 |
| holstein | and arecord -l | 21:16 |
| holstein | you can http://paste.ubuntu.com/ the output if you want | 21:16 |
| holstein | we just need to see the device listed there | 21:17 |
| holstein | as availalbe | 21:17 |
| holstein | as available* | 21:17 |
| soulknife | ty | 21:17 |
| soulknife | will do | 21:17 |
| soulknife | http://paste.ubuntu.com/538116/ | 21:18 |
| soulknife | holstein, there ya go | 21:18 |
| holstein | cool | 21:18 |
| holstein | that looks good | 21:18 |
| holstein | lets run | 21:18 |
| holstein | sudoo qjackctl again | 21:19 |
| holstein | and look under 'setup' | 21:19 |
| holstein | uncheck the realtime box | 21:19 |
| holstein | in the middle colunm | 21:19 |
| holstein | in the middle column* | 21:19 |
| soulknife | okay | 21:19 |
| holstein | set frames period to 512 | 21:19 |
| holstein | sample rate 44100 | 21:20 |
| holstein | periods/buffer 3 | 21:20 |
| holstein | THEN | 21:20 |
| holstein | this is where i think your problem is | 21:20 |
| holstein | ont he right side | 21:20 |
| holstein | interface | 21:20 |
| soulknife | k | 21:20 |
| holstein | thats where you'll need to experiment | 21:21 |
| holstein | and make sure JACK is using the device you need it to | 21:21 |
| holstein | soulknife: Driver is set to alsa? | 21:21 |
| soulknife | yes | 21:21 |
| holstein | should be set to alsa | 21:21 |
| holstein | cool | 21:21 |
| soulknife | and server path is /user/bin/jackd | 21:21 |
| soulknife | hmmm i wonder | 21:22 |
| holstein | did you change that? | 21:22 |
| holstein | my path is just jackd | 21:22 |
| holstein | BUT i havent really looked in 10.10 | 21:23 |
| holstein | at the specific changes | 21:23 |
| soulknife | holstein, http://paste.ubuntu.com/538117/ | 21:23 |
| holstein | soulknife: thats as sudo ? | 21:23 |
| soulknife | no, but i think something is using it already | 21:24 |
| soulknife | i tried as sudo, similar thing | 21:24 |
| holstein | OK | 21:24 |
| holstein | run this | 21:24 |
| holstein | sudo adduser soulknife audio | 21:24 |
| holstein | IF | 21:24 |
| holstein | soulknife is your username | 21:24 |
| holstein | on the box | 21:24 |
| holstein | and logout and back in | 21:24 |
| holstein | OR restart | 21:24 |
| holstein | and try it again | 21:24 |
| soulknife | okay i added myself | 21:25 |
| soulknife | brb | 21:25 |
| holstein | cool :) | 21:25 |
| soulknife | holstein, back | 21:26 |
| holstein | soulknife: whats the good news :) | 21:26 |
| soulknife | holstein, 16:26:26.528 Patchbay deactivated. | 21:26 |
| soulknife | 16:26:26.529 Statistics reset. | 21:26 |
| soulknife | Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory | 21:26 |
| soulknife | Cannot connect to server socket | 21:26 |
| soulknife | jack server is not running or cannot be started | 21:26 |
| soulknife | 16:26:26.547 ALSA connection graph change. | 21:26 |
| soulknife | 16:26:26.745 ALSA connection change. | 21:26 |
| soulknife | :9 | 21:26 |
| soulknife | :( * | 21:26 |
| soulknife | wait i think its workin | 21:27 |
| soulknife | woot | 21:27 |
| holstein | cool | 21:27 |
| holstein | you getting xruns? | 21:27 |
| soulknife | xruns? | 21:27 |
| holstein | you can trouble shoot that now | 21:27 |
| soulknife | what's that | 21:27 |
| holstein | if needed | 21:27 |
| holstein | soulknife: you'll know if your getting them | 21:27 |
| soulknife | holstein, uh oh...i have no sound now.. | 21:27 |
| soulknife | .uh | 21:27 |
| soulknife | holstein, how do i get sound. | 21:28 |
| holstein | right | 21:28 |
| holstein | what do you want sound with? | 21:28 |
| holstein | you make the connections in JACK | 21:28 |
| soulknife | how? | 21:28 |
| holstein | i use the 'connect' tabe | 21:28 |
| holstein | tab* | 21:28 |
| holstein | button* | 21:28 |
| holstein | on the left are the readables | 21:28 |
| holstein | and the right are the writealbes | 21:28 |
| holstein | pretty much | 21:29 |
| holstein | hit the little + (plus) signs | 21:29 |
| holstein | to expand the sections | 21:29 |
| holstein | soulknife: i would suggest something like yoshimi at first | 21:29 |
| holstein | OR hydrogen | 21:29 |
| soulknife | uh how...i am lost | 21:30 |
| holstein | soulknife: what are you trying to do? | 21:30 |
| holstein | when you start JACK | 21:30 |
| soulknife | renoise to work | 21:30 |
| holstein | you have to THEN launch renoise | 21:30 |
| holstein | and maybe | 21:30 |
| holstein | in renoise select JACK as the sound server | 21:30 |
| holstein | THEN | 21:30 |
| holstein | when you make a track in renoise | 21:31 |
| holstein | the track input will be on the right side there in 'connect' | 21:31 |
| holstein | in JACK | 21:31 |
| holstein | you can route the sound card output | 21:31 |
| holstein | right ofr left | 21:31 |
| holstein | to that input in renoise | 21:31 |
| holstein | OR right and left | 21:31 |
| holstein | OR whatever you choose | 21:32 |
| soulknife | i think i figured it out | 21:32 |
| holstein | cool | 21:32 |
| soulknife | was confusing at first, ty | 21:32 |
| holstein | soulknife: totally | 21:32 |
| holstein | crazy learning curve i find | 21:32 |
| holstein | the versatility makes it all worth it in my opinion | 21:32 |
| holstein | check out #opensourcemusicians | 21:32 |
| holstein | i know folk talks about renoise there | 21:33 |
| soulknife | ty | 21:34 |
| soulknife | holstein, i need to learn renoise | 21:35 |
| holstein | i looked at the demo | 21:35 |
| soulknife | holstein, i am gonna mess with the demo | 21:35 |
| holstein | looked great | 21:35 |
| holstein | but i use ardour mostly | 21:35 |
| holstein | im stoked that renoise is available for linux | 21:35 |
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