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leif_How do I add a "launch konsole" function keystroke (for example F4 like in Dolphin) globally with kde4 (4.5.3)?00:48
James147leif_: you can give a program a shortcut in kmenuedit00:50
leif_James147: Thanks. Works like a charm.00:51
cgroza<Yhg1s> because that's actually a useful distinction.00:55
cgroza<lvh> Yay, perl00:55
cgroza<Yhg1s> unfortunately, people use the terms rather loosely.00:55
cgroza<CyL> thanks very much for your help guys.. I?m trying to learn python on my own, and this is helping me a lot...00:55
cgroza<d_m> scripting language is mostly used a perjorative term, imo00:55
FloodBotK1cgroza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:55
cgroza<Yhg1s> not really perl, because it still has a separate parsing phase.00:55
cordell_does kde have a text to speech program like espeak or festival built into kde?00:57
James147cordell_: kttsd (or jovie on later version)... but it dosnt work teribally well (and uses espeak/festival as a backend)00:58
cordell_just wondering cause i think that it would be neat to have something implemented into kde that was different than espeak or festival, and sounded much better.01:00
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frogonwheelscordell: Have you tried cepstral ?  you have to pay for it.. but ..01:45
cordellno i have not, i did see a video of it on youtube iirc01:47
cordelli went to their website, and in the download section, there are free trials that are fully functional, but remind you to buy it01:51
xoma_could anyone say why kwin says that some effects cannot be used?02:08
bucketheadxoma_: Limitations on video drivers mostly, I believe.02:11
xoma_where i can change it?02:11
bucketheadxoma_: Depends on what type of video card you have.02:15
xoma_nvidia geforce 250gts02:16
bucketheadTry going into jockey and changing to the proprietary driver.02:16
xoma_couldnt you say what jockey is? In other words/ I couldnt translate it in russian correctly02:18
xoma_i solved my problem) system used default driver instead of nvidi driver02:24
sidracerhello, i have a partitions question... can anyone offer to try and answer?03:24
cuznt!ask03:26
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:26
sidracerokay, will do03:46
sidracerI have windows full on the partition so I wanted to stretch it out... I have a dedicated partition with grub legacy... I want to re-install kubuntu because I have an older version so I want to install 10.10 but I broke down partitions into 20gb so I think that's too small...  I want to install virtualbox inventionally... I also have about 100gb not used so03:47
sidracerI have a 320gb HDD to do this with... I want the windows partition to be bigger say 60gb at least but there's two ntfs partitions of 20gb each but full.... the linux partitions are 20gb each and I have 5 .... but I thought maybe I should make it at least 40 or more... maybe 100gb...03:48
sidracersince I want virtualbox on it too.... what should I do?   I thought maybe move the partitions but then it would mean I need a new grub and probably re-do the linux swap partitiion, right?03:49
sidraceram I making any sense? ;)03:49
sidracerhelp advise?03:49
sidracermaybe it's easier to re-install anything?   But, I was wondering if there's a way I wouldn't have to.... I don't have the windows partition backed up yet... but, my linux files are backed up on external drive so i can do whatever to it03:50
sidracercan I adjust the windows partition to make it bigger and then re-create the linux swap partition?   then I can set up the partition for kubuntu 10.10?    and then I would install it with grub 2, right?   and that would allow me to boot windows and kubuntu again?03:52
sidracerokay, anyone?03:52
sidracerubottu?03:52
sidracerI don't need a dedicated grub partition anymore, right?   is grub2 reliable now?   Can I just install kubuntu and install grub2 to the mbr?03:53
sidracerno one is talking here... i guess03:55
ridinyes03:58
sidracerso no one has any suggestions or advise for my project? :-/04:02
sidraceradvise -> advice04:02
squid134hello05:13
squid134I would like some help switching from ubuntu 10.10 to Kubuntu05:13
squid134I followed the directions here (one difference is I would like kubuntu-netbook), after reboot. The login is kubuntu but ubuntu then loads.05:17
squid134http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/936905:17
sidracerhi squid, still there?05:33
squid134yes05:37
squid134hello sidracer05:37
squid134is anyone available ?05:45
roxythe run command thing thats comes down from top of screen......... do you have to set it up for compiz?05:47
squid134I don't have that run05:48
sidraceri am sort of ;05:48
squid134it's just like ubuntu-desktop05:48
sidracer;005:48
roxyfor the shortcut...>.< forgot to add that lol05:49
squid134before i "updated"  i hade ubuntu netbook edition with the simple menu on the left05:49
sidracersquid, why not install the one you want to use?05:51
sidracerif you want kubuntu, then install kubuntu where the ubuntu one is05:51
sidraceri think that is easiest else you will have double the libraries... although it's not bad if you have a large hdd05:51
squid134there are programs with settings and files i need to retain05:52
roxyhmm...the default for it is alt f2..... for kwin.... :( but its not working for compiz.........*looks more* i have to be missing somethin05:52
squid134i could transpose but would like to just swith05:52
squid134switch*05:52
squid134alt f2 brought the run window up for me05:53
roxyyup.... works for me in kwin but not compiz >.>05:53
squid134i'll pop back on tomorrow, lids are heavy05:54
sidracersquid, oh... that's why i say to have those on another drive05:54
squid134if it was easy, i would (i suppose)05:55
sidracersquid, then install kde and then change the settings so kde is default to load05:55
squid134example, Tomboy05:55
squid134tomboy is a notepad application05:55
SporkWitchso i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 yesterday, and i'm noticing that Dragon will now crash randomly when switching between fullscreen and windowed (and log out my session simultaneously), and the overall experience will randomly cease responding for 5-30 seconds (both on a mid-range laptop, and a high-end desktop).  any suggestions?  It also doesn't seem to be properly pulling information about available updates (both have the mozilla05:55
SporkWitchdaily PPA enabled, but only the laptop has firefox 3.6.14; latest on the desktop that shows up is 3.6.12, the official release)05:55
squid134it doesn't seem to have a save as feature05:55
SporkWitchanyone running into similar issues and/or have any advice?05:55
squid134to move the files05:55
squid134hey, thanks sidracer. I will pop back on tomorrow05:57
sidraceryeah, just be careful what you do... i'm just making suggestions to try05:59
sidraceryou're welcome, though :)05:59
Agent001Hi , I downloaded kubuntu and I need to run wireless, it detects wireless on it, but I haven't been able to log on06:16
SporkWitchlaptop locked up and I had to force shutdown (hold the power button).  now when it boots it goes straight to the terminal, refuses to start the GUI.  startx fails as well.  not even sure where to start here.06:53
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poyntzwhat are the cpu requirements for 64-bit mav meercat?06:58
SporkWitchonly a quick google, but i can only find the x86 reqs, and it recommends "better than 1GHz"07:00
poyntzooo.. cool. thnx!07:01
szakalltj07:16
Agent001hi can someone in here help me?07:44
moetunessure but you have to tell us stuff07:47
moetuneslike what the issue is07:47
Agent001ok07:47
Agent001so.. I just installed kubuntu over ubuntu07:47
Agent001to experience the kde environment07:47
Agent001however07:47
Agent001I can't seem to connect to my wireless.. although it detects my connection07:48
Agent001Maybe you can help me out?07:48
moetuneslots of ppl have a problem with the kde network manager07:49
moetunesmost install wicd or use the gnome one07:49
Agent001So far, I can only connect to it using my eternet cable07:50
moetunesyou shouild have the gnome network manager installed already07:50
moetunesit worked in gnome ok did it?07:53
Agent001yeah, that's where i originally came from. I can switch back to gnome and detect my wireless and connect.07:53
moetunesyou can start the gnome network manager in kde ok07:53
moetunesmost do because the kde network manager doesn;t work so well07:54
Agent001ok, how can i do this?07:54
Agent001can i search for gnome network manager on the search bar?07:54
moetunessure07:55
Agent001Can't seem to find it...07:55
moetunesI don't use it so I dunno what it is called07:55
cpatrick2008press alt+f2 and type nm-applet07:55
moetunesthere you go - thnx cpatrick200807:56
cpatrick2008yw07:56
Agent001i typed that in.. but not sure if it opened07:56
moetunescheck the statusbar maybe07:57
Agent001I dont think its there07:58
moetunesopen a konsole and run that command in there to see what is happening07:58
Agent001"nm-applet"07:58
cpatrick2008go  to kpackage kit and install knm-runtime  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/416341 and install the deb files for #7 & #807:58
moetunesyep07:59
Agent001I typed in terminal and it saids it's already running07:59
cpatrick2008then go to autostart and create a new script called nm-applet to get it to startup everytime u login  to  kde08:00
Poyntzdoes 64 bit vs 32 bit affect gameplay?08:01
moetunesbut how does he access it now to use his wireless cpatrick2008 ?08:02
Agent001I have a weird notification saids "bug.launchpaid.net contacted. Waitig for reply" after i typed in nm-applet08:03
cpatrick2008he can  download the files in  gnome then install  them in  kde08:03
moetuneshe already has gnome08:03
moetuneshe added kubuntu-desktop08:04
Agent001yeah, might as well stick to gnome if it's going to be like this08:04
Agent001whoa08:09
Agent001something just happened!08:09
Agent001It's currently setting up network address...08:10
moetunesthat's a good sign08:11
Agent001but it's weird how it's taking so long08:11
Agent001well ,thanks guy for trying to help out08:13
moetunesnp :)08:13
Poyntzdoes 10.10 run on ext3 or ext4 ?08:16
moetunesyou choose at install can be either08:16
Poyntzwats the advantage of ext4?08:17
moetunesit has extents which helps the filesystem not need defragging08:18
moetunes!ext408:18
moetunes!info ext408:18
ubottuPackage ext4 does not exist in maverick08:18
Poyntzive got 4 partitions used up... thinking of turning one to ext4 and installing kububtu there.. its called HP_Tools.. not sure if its needed08:20
moetuneswhat does it do?08:22
Poyntznot sure.. if i screw up the OS ill just reinstall... just installed it ha!08:26
moetunesheh08:30
Poyntzk.. this sucks coz the manufacturer has rendered in some dodgy partitions....08:33
Poyntzif i shrink some, it doesnt let me expand others...08:33
Poyntzeven if i do make them ext*08:33
moetunesI've never had much luck trying that - tho it has been a while since I tried08:36
Poyntzmoetunes: just discovered.. the preinstalled partition must be removed first08:37
moetunesthat's a sucky setup they did then08:38
Poyntznot sure which version of gparted it is..08:40
Poyntzoooo.. impossible to install from a live CD?08:41
moetunesthat shouldn't be right...08:42
Poyntzunless you cac install after kdm n X server have loaded...r08:42
Poyntz*can08:42
moetunesthere an icon on the desktop called instal?08:42
Poyntzahh... must be that. thnx08:43
Agent001strange, I can't seem to download anything onto my desktop or anything anywhere08:43
Agent001and I can't seem to change my wallpaper either08:43
Poyntzmoetunes: are there drawbacks to 64bit?08:45
Poyntzhow much space is requires for a SWAP partition?08:48
* Poyntz checked google.. as big as my ram size...08:49
Poyntzif im limited by 4 partitions it could be tricky making a swap...08:50
UndiFineDyou can make more than 4 partitions09:23
dani#gug09:24
UndiFineDjust no more than 4 primairy ones on FAT09:24
moetunesno more then 4 primary on any filesystem I thought09:25
pidersuperkaramba kmonitor shows only 2 cpu, I have a quad, anyone know how to fix?09:35
moetunespider:  how many cpu's are listed in the theme for it?09:41
pideronly 209:42
moetunesthen you should add two more maybe09:42
Agent001Kubuntu will not uninstall =/09:43
SporkWitchAgent001: an OS isn't something you "uninstall," mate09:43
moetunesAgent001:  you want to get back to just gnome?09:43
moetunes!purekde09:43
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »09:43
rww!puregnome09:43
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome09:43
moetunesoops09:43
Agent001Yeah, I realized Kde uses too much memory/ram09:43
moetunes!puregnome09:44
moetunes!lag09:44
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag09:44
moetunes!puregnome09:44
rwwmoetunes: I called it already. ubottu doesn't like repeating herself.09:44
moetuneso0hh didn't see that :)09:44
SporkWitchAgent001: is it that it uses too much? or is your machine just being a bit sluggish? Myself and some others have been having choppiness and slowdowns since upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10.  Deactivating your video card driver (nvidia / ati), then rebooting (full reboot), then reactivate and reboot again, seems to resolve most of it09:45
ubaldo@gug09:47
Agent001i'll give it a try again in the morning09:48
piderhow do I add 2 more?09:56
Agent001maybe you're right09:56
Agent001kde is suddenly fast again09:57
SporkWitchglad that helped09:57
SporkWitchpider: should be either a drop-down or a spot to type in a number, wherever in the settings it said to show only two09:58
Agent001spork,do you type in passcode for wireless every reboot?09:58
Agent001if not, how do you make it permanent?09:58
SporkWitchAgent001: yes and no.  in network settings i added a setting for my wifi network, and that does store the password.  however, I also have it set to store that information in the wallet, which requires me to enter a password to open, allowing the network manager access to it09:59
piderthere are no settings to do in superkaramba09:59
SporkWitchthere's a setting in the network manager (a checkbox) for using "secure storage" or something along those lines, for the information10:00
Agent001I had to enter a wallet password and then my router password10:00
SporkWitchAgent001: i would look at the settings for that wifi preset and see if there's a setting for saving the password10:01
Agent001Yeah I am, I'm not sure where that secure storage is10:01
Agent001I'd think it's under tab Wireless security but its not10:01
SporkWitchAgent001: (sorry i'm being so vague, i'm on windows right now, as my linux install is borked atm, and i'm waiting on the latest DVD ISO to download on a horrifically slow connection, heh)10:01
Agent001np10:01
SporkWitchAgent001: "secure storage" refers to the wallet10:01
Agent001unrelated question.. i noticed that when i download a file such as a picture and save it on my desktop10:04
Agent001it saves10:04
Agent001but.. it's not there10:04
moetunespider:  you add them in the theme same as the two that are there just call them cpu2 and cpu310:04
SporkWitchAgent001: sounds to me like the classic case of saving it but not knowing WHERE you saved it10:04
Agent001but i directed it to my desktop10:04
Agent001but when i directed to my picture folder, its in there10:04
SporkWitchAgent001: please be more clear, it seems like you're using "directed" in two different ways.10:05
piderok, I try that10:05
Agent001When I'm saving a file, there's an option to direct the file to where you want to save it to10:06
Agent001I usually put them to my desktop10:06
Agent001But when i switch back to Ubuntu, they're on my desktop10:06
Agent001but not vice versa10:06
SporkWitchAgent001: gotcha, it has to do with the "activity" setting of that desktop in KDE10:06
Agent001that's very new to me10:07
Agent001I'm not really sure what that is10:07
SporkWitchif you look in the corner of the display (upper right, by default) there's a little tab with a fire-like symbol (reminds me of the fire symbol from magic the gathering, if that helps you), click this and hit the settings option10:07
Agent001oh i did not even notice that10:08
SporkWitchnot sure if it will display files if you choose the "desktop" activity (i don't like icons on my desktop, desktops are for widgets :P), but if you choose "folder view" then in the settings choose your ~/desktop folder, it'll show the contents on your desktop10:08
Agent001Oh nice!10:10
SporkWitchbasically "activities" just change the layout, settings, and behaviour of a desktop (can set it independently for specific monitors, or specific virtual desktops)10:10
alumnohi10:11
SporkWitchAgent001: did that do the trick for you?10:11
alumnocan someone help me ?10:11
SporkWitchalumno: only if you ask a question :)10:11
Agent001Yeah that really helped10:11
SporkWitchAgent001: kind of relearning things myself, last time I used linux actively was about 3 or 4 years ago, on gentoo with a much older version of KDE, heh, so it's all fresh in my head, as i've mucked about with it10:12
Agent001are you testing the waters with kde?10:13
Agent001I cant believe I was about to uninstall this... this is great10:13
SporkWitchnaw, i've always preferred it, more customizability and "power," and i much prefer its apps to gnome; meanwhile i really don't like the aesthetics or how "watered down" my control of it feels10:13
SporkWitchthe only other i've liked as much as KDE was enlightenment, but mainly for aesthetics, and that was a long time ago.  KDE is better overall IMO10:14
Agent001Not sure what watered down in that context means10:14
Agent001as a result of the folder view alteration, my icons became mini x^100 .... how can i enlarge them back?10:15
SporkWitchAgent001: there's a lot of things you can do in KDE that you can't in Gnome, and customizability in general isn't as robust as it is in KDE.  one big deal-breaker for me is that gnome doesn't support removing window borders (and I've never found a workaround, though i'll confess a lack of motivation, given that there's not really anything in gnome that appeals to me over KDE).  That's what I mean by "watered down"10:15
SporkWitchAgent001: that one you might have to muck about with, lol.  i hadn't had any problems with the sizes on mine, so had no motivation to look for a setting :(10:15
SporkWitchif you right click the desktop there should be a "folder view settings" you can look around in10:16
Agent001kde reminds me of windows10:17
Agent001one taskbar10:17
SporkWitchAgent001: it can remind you of anything you want, just a matter of changing settings :)10:17
Agent001I wasn't able to do that on ubuntu10:17
SporkWitchpersonally, i have two (8?), one on each monitor / virtual desktop, that only shows the apps running on that desktop+monitor combination10:17
SporkWitchif we're just going to be chatting like this, though, we should move to #kubuntu-offtopic10:18
SporkWitchthey're kinda sticklers about keeping this channel quiet except for Q&A10:18
Agent001Yeah I was warned about that earlier by rww10:19
BajKAny ideas why there is a constant disk activity on my hard drive? Indexing is finished so this cant be the cause and it was also before I had indexing turned on a few days ago10:22
BajKalso, whenever I start an application, disk activity goes way up. I mean that grchrchrchr sound you hear on disk activity10:22
BajKand no, it is no swapping activity since I have 4 GB ram and my swap partition seems to have never been used10:23
SporkWitchBajK: fragmentation?10:23
BajKSporkWitch: how can I check that or defrag it?10:24
BajKit is formatted with ext410:24
HRPufnstufDoes Linux Defrag?10:25
BajKI dont think so, that is why i ask^^10:25
BajKand isn't ext4 not as prehistoric as NTFS and does not defrag so quickly anyway?10:26
BajKso, it is a 1TB HDD at SATA, 1GB /boot (ext3), 4GB swap, 100 GB / (ext4), 600 GB /home (ext4), 300 GB /backup (ext4)10:27
BajKI am just having quassel opened and a chromium window and I do almost nothing and still I hear that activity silently, and whenever I do anything it goes way up10:27
SporkWitchBajK: looks like fsck can defrag for you.  and while yes, it's supposedly less of an issue, that doesn't mean it's never an issue.  HDD thrashing, in my experience, either indicates fragmentation, or trying to access too many different locations on the disk10:28
BajKSporkWitch: fsck can do that? hm well, but I think there is a risk in it, isnt there?10:32
BajKand can I defrag while system is running? Or well, I think at that size it would be better doing this tonight anyway10:32
BajKah okay it seems ext4 is capable of an online defragmentation10:33
djusticefsck isnt 'defrag'. it's filesystem check.10:33
djusticejust fixes orphaned or borked inodes and such..10:33
BajKyep thats what I found out10:34
djusticecapable yes, but it can't correct distended inode groups while the device is mounted.. iirc.10:34
BajKdjustice: and how do I defrag the partition? For example tonight I defrag my whole /home partition10:35
BajKwhile I am sleeping^^10:35
BajKand for the root partition, I am going to re-install kubuntu by the time kde 4.6 comes out anyway10:35
djusticeBajK: ctrl+alt+f1, sudo umount /home, sudo fsck /dev/sdX10:36
SporkWitchBajK: found a good description of the difference between journaling (ext) and non-journaling (FAT, NTFS) file systems: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/defrag-on-linux-331862/#post289092310:36
djusticeX being the device number. ofc. check /etc/mtab if you dont know.10:36
djusticeindeed.. no need to fsck, it happens at every boot.10:36
BajKdjustice: well I know how to unmount a file system and such but I just need the tool. so fsck does defrag? I thought not?10:37
djusticei think. in chakra anyway.. pretty sure kubuntu does too..10:37
SporkWitchdjustice: not everyone reboots.... ever..... :P10:37
djustice'defrag' and 'filesystem check' are very different..10:37
djusticejournal'd fs dont need defrag. but a fsck doesn't hurt. and possibly speeds up fetch by an unnoticable amount..10:37
djusticeSporkWitch: ;)10:37
SporkWitchdjustice: reminds me, need to finish figuring out how to make FFXIV behave in WINE so i can stop rebooting into windows on this thing lol10:38
BajKand my christmas presend will be a Solid State disk which I will place as root filesystem, so the problem won't last much longer anyway^^10:38
* SporkWitch drools10:38
BajKdjustice: okay, I'll try fsck. fsck without any parameters?10:38
djusticeBajK: single argument, /dev/sdX10:39
djusticesda2 for example. the device node for your /home..10:39
djusticeSporkWitch: have fun with that.. has anybody else?10:39
djusticein chakra-land we bundle such things, the bundle contains a pre-hacked wine install, with compile settings/patches specific to that game..10:40
djusticein ubuntu-land i think you recompile these yourself..10:40
BajKdjustice: so I shall specifiy the whole disk e.g. /dev/sda, or just the home partition /dev/sda5?10:41
SporkWitchdjustice: bumped into the maintainer for the official FFXIV entry on the WINE site on my server in FFXIV, actually, he says he got it mostly working except sound (which is nearly a deal-breaker, sound is important in some MMOs, and FFXIV is one of them).  Haven't had to do any compiling over here (never used chakra), i just added the latest/unstable WINE respository to my PPA listings, heh.  they're working pretty hardcore on stuff lately10:42
djusticeBajK: just sda5. but make sure it's unmounted. or fixes wont be applied.10:42
djusticeSporkWitch: nice10:42
BajKokay thx10:42
BajKand another question: which package do I need for installing the kde partition manager? It is bundled with 10.10 and accessible via systemsettings but on my external HDD there is the RC running (wich dist-upgrade for all updates of course) But it did not feature the partition manager OOTB which is important to me10:43
djusticewine: sometimes a hack must be made for one game/app that breaks every other game/app.10:44
djusticeBajK: kdepartitionmanager?10:44
BajKlol. okay. that sounds logical :)10:44
SporkWitchdjustice: true, which is what bottles are for :P10:44
djusticekpartitionmanager? partitionmanager alone is the app name.. no idea about the pkgname.10:44
BajKah okay10:44
djusticeSporkWitch: as in crossover bottles?10:44
BajKbut I think it was partitonmanager in repos10:44
SporkWitchdjustice: snazzy little shellscript that sets up separate directories and configuration files, so that you CAN use those app-specific tweaks on each program without breaking the others.  the only "duplicate" data are the settings files and (I think) the shared bits like IE6 and other stuff you download for compatibility10:46
SporkWitchdjustice: google "winetricks" and "winebottles" (obviously need to play around with the exact string to get the right kind of WINE, lol)10:47
djusticeSporkWitch: there are lots of app specific patches to wine itself.. which modify the binary and thus behavior..10:47
djusticeand yes i know winetricks and bottles10:47
djusticeand vbox+seamless<3 (i dont game)10:48
SporkWitchdjustice: you're deeper into it than i am, heh.  my primary game is EVE Online, which runs wonderfully with stock settings lol.  i'm only now starting to try to learn a bit more, and even then, not quite yet (still working on tweaking and fixing my borked laptop install, and probably gonna do the same to this machine, as it's not running as clean as i'd like, so probably do a clean install)10:49
djusticeya.. i nvr used doze apps. but i keep a .vdi just in case.10:51
djusticemy computer is only used for kde devel and chakra devel10:51
djusticei built the first chakra x64 image not 6 months ago.. it's come a long way.10:52
SporkWitchgrats10:52
djusticeand i have a debian/ubuntu logo tatt'd on my arm/shoulder.10:52
djustice;)10:52
SporkWitchdjustice: i've got a triquetra on mine, does that count? lol (we should move to #kubuntu-offtopic, it's where the cool kids goof off)10:53
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luciferrку всем =)12:19
Tm_T!ru | luciferr12:19
ubottuluciferr: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:19
mick02Afternoon folks13:11
mick02Hello!13:13
mick02LjL,  is it just me or is there nothing happening in here13:13
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ikoniamick02: you have to ask a question as you've been told13:14
ikoniamick02: what do you expect to happen if you don't ask a question13:14
LjLmick02: there's certainly much less going on than there used to be, but that might be an advantage, as your question will stay on people's screens longer13:14
ikoniaor people maybe waiting for a question to be asked, so they have something to repond to13:15
SporkWitchLjL: or a disadvantage, since then you cannot, in good conscience, repost as often to catch people that just joined the channel13:15
mick02Well there doesn't seem to be anyone asking questions in here! OK my question is ... How do I get the Plasma Desktop widgets to work through a http_proxy keeping in mind that I've set the http_proxy variablein /etc/bash.bashrc13:15
ikoniamick02: I believe that shell variable won't get pickedup by them you need to set the proxy at the desktop level, I'm sure there is a tool in KDE for setting the proxy13:16
LjLuhm i don't know/remember if the KDE proxy settings actually just mirror the http_proxy variable, but for sure there is a KDE proxy control panel, so try looking there13:17
mick02ikonia, LjL there is a setting in the System Settings in KDE that allow you to set the proxy but I've set it and although apt-get works from the command line none of the widgets work13:18
SporkWitchhere's a question: if i borked my laptop's install, attempted installing 10.04 (the disk i had handy) over the existing 10.10 install, still borked, is there any way to get at the files in my encrypted home folder?13:18
sysop1ok how can I find the /dev/xxx entry for the sournd sink of my bluetooth headset13:18
mick02SporkWitch, I don't think so. I think that's the reason for an encrypted folder so that the files can't be accessed.13:19
SporkWitchsysop1: quick google returns a result statingthat BT sound devices do not create /dev entries13:20
SporkWitchmick02: half right, the purpose is preventing access without the password13:20
SporkWitchtheoretically i should be able to access them since i have the password, the question is "how"13:20
mick02Can you save the folder to another place then mount that folder using a new install then access it using the password?13:21
SporkWitchmick02: if i knew how to read the code, i could probably cludge a workaround for that, yes, problem is that you're not prompted for a password to unlock it, it's the home directory, and it's automatically decrypted at login, encrypted when you close the session13:22
mick02SporkWitch, did you see this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1016430813:22
SporkWitchnope, and that may do the trick; next question is a text command to move all contents, recursively, to someplace else so i can get at them13:24
SporkWitchtried mv ~/Documents [new path], andit says "not a directory"13:25
moetunestry   cp -a13:26
SporkWitchmoetunes: gotta be a move of some kind; 60GB HDD, 25MB free, heh13:28
moetunesthat's pretty huge ...13:28
ikoniaSporkWitch: mv $directory $new_directory13:29
moetunes<SporkWitch> tried mv ~/Documents [new path], andit says "not a directory"13:29
ikoniawhat was the exact command13:29
SporkWitchikonia: tried: mv ~/Documents /usr/share/files (just a random directory i created for this in a directory i knew i could access from any user)13:30
SporkWitchalso tried: mv ~/Documents/* /usr/share/files/*13:30
SporkWitchboth returned the same error13:31
ikoniaSporkWitch: file /usr/share/files please13:31
ikoniaSporkWitch: what does that return13:31
SporkWitchgimme a minute, will have to boot up that machine (had it off, was waiting on the 10.10 ISO to finish downloading and was going to try that13:32
SporkWitchnow this is just odd, the directory wasn't there; yet it WAS there before when i created it lol; in any case, once i created it again, it says it's a direcotry13:35
ikoniaSporkWitch: now try the mv command13:35
SporkWitchsec13:36
SporkWitchwhen i SU into my user i get errors "attempting to initialize key TFM cipher" and "attempting to initialize cipher" with name = [aes]13:39
ikoniawhy are you switching user to your user, you should be logged in as the user13:39
SporkWitchikonia: i used the recovery boot option and then told it to give me a shell; like i said, i borked my install earlier, heh13:40
ikoniaSporkWitch: so why are you switching user ?13:41
SporkWitchikonia: because when you ask for a shell it has you as root, not your user13:41
ikoniawhy do you need to be your user if you are recovering stuff ?13:41
SporkWitchikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1016430813:42
ikoniasu - $username13:42
SporkWitchbeside the point though, as it errors out and won't decrypt it :( giving hte errors listsed above; when booting normally and going to a TTY it says "mount: Invalid argument"13:43
ikoniadid you do "su - $username" or just "su $username"13:43
SporkWitchjust su $username13:44
ikoniause su - username13:44
SporkWitchikonia: "keyctl_search: Required key not available.  Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private"13:47
SporkWitchwhich is the command that returns the errors13:47
SporkWitchsome progress, if i run the command with sudo it teturns a different error: "fopen: No such file or directory"13:48
SporkWitchikonia: oh well, eff it.  my mate has the movies in question anyway, can just get them back from him another time, only real loss is the text file i had my DSL login info in (was only temp info anyway).  just gonna do a clean install so i have a working laptop again, and be more proactive about my backups in the future13:56
SporkWitchikonia: i appreciate the help, though, and if nothing else, i got learn a bit more13:56
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dex19dtis there anyone here?14:39
SporkWitchno14:39
sysop1hi14:55
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sysop1ok if I run a kde program I can choose window position and other options on the command line. but in a non kde program like chrome I cant. but once its open I can go to the options on the winow frame and choose things like no boarder.14:58
sysop1is there a kde program I can run  that will run a program with window options I want.14:58
SporkWitchkwin is the handler for that, i think?14:59
SporkWitchalso, many apps have options you can pass on the command line to tell them what size and monitor to use15:00
sysop1not chrome, at least not documented15:00
sysop1and all the undocumented ones I find are for turning on and off things in the browser engine.15:00
SporkWitchdunno then mate, sorry :(15:01
sysop1can I do this kwin options chrome15:01
sysop1and it will run chrome with those options?15:01
SporkWitchi don't know what the syntax is, i just know i usually see "kwin" in the title of many dialog boxes for KDE and non-KDE apps15:02
SporkWitchso it's purely a guess that it might provide something like the functionality you want.  you might also be able to pass similar option by editing the entry in the launcher menu entry for that app15:02
SporkWitchin any case, it's 1600, which means i've been up for nearly 30 hours, i need to get some rack before work tomorrow on my day off (yes yo uread that right >_<)15:03
sysop1the problem is if I pass  --geometry <geometry>   to chromium. will it recognize a kde option?15:03
sysop1the other problems is games15:04
SporkWitchmaybe? really not sure; can't hurt to try, i should think15:04
SporkWitchin any case, g'night15:04
sysop1I just checked out hte command line otpoins for kwin. i dont see anything helpfull.15:04
sysop1oh ok sorry15:04
sysop1g-night15:04
SporkWitchsorry i couldn't be more help :(15:04
sysop1its ok15:05
sysop1oh well.15:05
sysop1ne1 else have any ideas?15:05
sysop1I feel its something stupid I am overlooking.15:06
sysop1#kde says kstart --help15:07
sysop1trying now15:07
BluesKajHowdy all15:20
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Agent001Hi anyone know how to disable taskbar hover popup notification?16:23
DiogenesWservus16:24
Agent001?16:24
mfraz74Agent001: which notification are you on about?16:25
Agent001The notification from taskbar hovers16:26
mfraz74right click, task manager settings and unset show tooltips16:27
Agent001I don't see task manager16:28
Agent001right click on desktop?16:29
Agent001Oh, nm16:29
Agent001thanks that solved it!16:29
Agent0012nd question16:30
Agent001How do I get my start menu to look like this?16:30
Agent001http://www.zimmertech.com/tutorials/linux/55/kubuntu_review_tips.php16:30
mfraz74right click on the 'k' and there should be an option to switch to the other style16:31
ikoniaAgent001: that's an old version of kde too, 3.416:31
ikoniathe themes have moved on a bit16:31
Agent001Oh =/16:31
Agent001Oh it worked!16:32
Agent001thanks mfraz7416:32
mfraz74np16:32
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phoenix_firebrdhello everyone17:28
rorkhi phoenix_firebrd17:43
phoenix_firebrdrork: hi17:44
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DiogenesWgute nacht18:24
Kruzhi. is this a right place to ask about some packaging  problems?18:36
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PiciKruz: For creating packages?18:36
KruzPici: Yes, the debs18:37
PiciKruz: You'd have better luck asking in #ubuntu-packaging and if no one is active there, then in #ubuntu-motu18:37
Kruzthank you Pici18:37
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nfrshi19:09
nfrshow can I reduce mouse speed? the "pointer acceleration" in mouse settings doesn't seem to affect it below 1.0x19:10
nfrsI've got 3500 dpi mouse, and I want it that way in games, but not on desktopp19:10
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b14ckHi all. Quick question: I've been thinking of getting an MP3 player, but wasn't sure which kind to get. Anyone have a recommendation of a good linux-compatible one? It looks like no zune models work, apple stuff (may?) work, and creative stuff works but sucks.19:32
b14ckI'm not really an apple fan, but regardless, I just want something that'll work.19:33
tsimpsonget a "simple" one, where the files are just stored on the player rather than messed about with like apple19:34
moetunesnfrs:  man xset will give some deails on how it works but try   xset m 10/8 4   or similar in terminal19:35
NailbarHey all - Could anyone tell me where to look for debugging output when the KDE splash screen crashes and kicks me back to kdm19:38
nfrsmoetunes: that only controls acceleration, while I need sensitivity19:38
b14cktsimpson: I'd ideally like something kinda high end though. That can play video.19:41
moetunesnfrs:  from the man page - mouse   The  m  option  controls the mouse parameters; it may be abbreviated to 'm'. Of course, it applies to most pointing devices, not just mice. The parameters for the pointing device are  `acceleration'  and  `thresh-old'. threshold is the sensitivity19:41
BloodyRain2khello, I got a problem: I had a gotten a full harddisk of my kubuntu partition and was unable to login with the GUI, I already tried to remove junk with the console version but that didn't help, I have free space again but still can't login with the GUI, it returns after a few seconds to the login. What else can I do to fix it? My version is 10.04.119:42
tsimpsonb14ck: I have a ipod nano, but I run rockbox rather than the apple OS, afaik it can do video too (though probably not quite as nicely as the native OS)19:43
skaftihey.  what version of flash player do i download ? (updating firefox) tar.gz19:44
skaftiyum19:44
skafti??19:44
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moetunesBloodyRain2k:  tried a reboot since making some space? - there might be some files in /tmp left from when it wouldn't let you in19:45
tsimpsonskafti: the one in the repositories is the same as the one from adobe.com19:46
skaftiok19:46
BloodyRain2kmoetunes: i already rebooted a few times, sometimes it doesn't boot at all and gets stuck at the black screen before some text runs down for a second19:46
skaftithx19:46
moetunesBloodyRain2k:  doesn't sound like the problem was just a lack of space then19:47
BloodyRain2kmoetunes: maybe it was and has become something else, i can login fine with the console though19:47
BloodyRain2kis there some kind of repair mode I can somehow start over the console?19:47
moetunesBloodyRain2k:  the console is the repair mode19:48
skaftibut anyways which is it :)19:49
BloodyRain2koh, ok then I need much more know how, not using linux much19:49
moetunesBloodyRain2k:  try  ls -a /tmp   | grep -i lock   if there is a return then it might give a clue what to do next19:50
BloodyRain2kwith | in one line or seperated?19:50
moetunesBloodyRain2k:  in one line pls19:50
moetunesI've just woken up :)19:50
BloodyRain2k.X0-lock19:51
BloodyRain2kthats all19:51
moetunesBloodyRain2k:  do   sudo rm -v /tmp/X0-lock    and try the gui login again19:53
BloodyRain2kno, didn't work, except that I now get a white screen for a second instead of a black one19:55
BloodyRain2koh wait19:56
moetunesBloodyRain2k:  did it make a new X0-lock file?19:56
BloodyRain2kno it helped, it was mail failure19:56
moetunesso you're in?19:56
BloodyRain2klasttime before I knew how to activate the console I swapped something from default to failsafe19:56
BloodyRain2kjust selected there default again and im in again, thanks a lot :D19:57
moetuneswoot!19:57
BloodyRain2kah yeah there was something else I could need, is there some equivalent to NTFS's drive compression for linux?19:58
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moetunesI'm sure there is but it is not something I've ever bothered with - what sort of files do you want to compress? - mainly movies or...19:59
BloodyRain2kno, got some huge txt files that need to be readable, else I20:00
BloodyRain2kI'd just zip em with ark20:00
BloodyRain2kor better said plain text20:00
moetunesfound this - http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.questions/2004-04/0001.html20:02
BloodyRain2kgreat, thanks, hope i get that installed XD if not ill say it ^^;20:05
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moetunesheh20:09
christian__#name skippy11220:11
christian__hello20:11
christian__how can i change my name20:11
skaftisome one know how to ajust vuze20:11
christian__?20:12
skaftidoes not work20:12
moetuneschristian__:  try   /nick newnick20:13
skaftiwhat is the trick to get vuze to work.... port shit or somthing, sorry for the silly question20:17
macoplease watch your language20:17
skaftipardon20:20
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skaftihow do i get skype to work20:33
Hazamonzosee if we open a file with a certain application (an application we do not want to associate with the file permanently) a couple of time... will that application soon start to end up in the "Open With" list?20:33
Hazamonzoskafti: download, install20:33
skaftiyep done that20:34
HazamonzoCongratulations!20:34
Hazamonzo:D20:34
skafti:)20:34
skaftii know im a dummy20:34
skaftidont have to rub it in20:34
Hazamonzoskafti: Also use ktorrent instead of vuze. It comes with kubuntu20:34
skaftiyeah tell that to the missis just wants to use vuze to get GAnatomy :))20:35
skaftihehe20:36
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BloodyRain2kdumb question, how can I run shell scripts that don't if I just enter their name in the console? got 2 extensionless ones I need to run for e2compr21:00
DarthFrogBloodyRain2k:  the current directory is, by default, not in your path.  To run a script from the current directory, preface the scipt name with "./"  i.e ./scriptname   It doesn't matter whether the script has an extension or not, as long as it is set executable (i.e. chmod +x scriptname)  or  use bash to launch the script, i.e. "bash ./scriptname" if it isn't executable.21:03
BloodyRain2ki knew that with the path but gonna try the bash thing, thanks21:04
BloodyRain2kyeah that worked, thanks a lot21:14
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Rioting_Pacifistwhat package gives the name of an app when you don't have it installed?21:55
Rioting_Pacifistthink i found it, it's bash_completion right?21:57
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  yep21:58
moetunesno - if the app isn't installed that won't find it21:58
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  ^21:58
moetuneswhat are you trying to do?21:59
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Rioting_PacifistWhen i did a proper install if i got a command wrong it would say "did you mean a from PackageA, b from packageB , c from packageC and if it'd run a command e.g ping but i didn't have it installed it would list ping from iputils so i could install it22:11
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  I have never seen that here nor heard of it sorry - but I always use the tab key...22:14
Rioting_Pacifistmoetunes: it's command not found, I use it more as a shortcut for dpkg -S, especially if i'm not sure where the bin will be22:19
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  ok - there is the   whereis   command for that too22:20
morticumI was wondering if anyone could tell me how to mount a partition so that any user has access to it22:36
morticumright now I can only figure out how to mount it so that root can read/write to it22:36
moetunesmorticum:  what sort of filesystem does it have?22:37
morticumit's ext422:37
moetuneswhat command are you using to mount it 'cause by default mount mounts things read/write22:38
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morticumI'm using "sudo mount [source] [location]"22:38
morticume.g. "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/hdd22:39
moetunestry   sudo chmod ugo+rw /media/hdd   before mounting22:40
morticumwhat's that do?22:40
morticumnevermind, just read the help22:41
moetunesheh22:41
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electroweakis huawei e 180 3g modem working under 10.10 anyone tried23:21
Ginbuntudoes Kubuntu support auto encyrption for a particular partition e.g. /home ?23:27
larsjaaa2Ginbuntu: Yes, try Kubuntu alternate and you can explore all options of encryption.23:30
Ginbuntularsjaaa2: can I use my Kubuntu desktop cd?23:31
murchadhHi all! My main panel is set on auto-hide, and all works well on my netbook (Acer Aspire one 531, kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.51), but most of my apps are set to run  full-screen, and moving the cursor to the edge where the panel is docked has no effect. I have set a shortcut for the menu 'meta+\' but this just brings up the menu portion and not the actual panel. Can I change something to make the menu appear above, say a full-screened firefox, by moving the23:31
murchadhcursor there or even setting a keystroke shortcut? When these apps are merely maximised it all works fine.23:31
Ginbuntularsjaaa2: does it slow down my system when using encryption on /home ?23:32
larsjaaa2Ginbuntu: else, to create a encryped home, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome23:32
larsjaaa2Ginbuntu: less than with full disk encryption,,23:33
larsjaaa2Ginbuntu: I am no a cryptograph, but I would assume bubbeling your home would require resources..23:38
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