[12:28] hai i am back again [12:58] hai pendulum [12:58] my pc is working again [13:00] hi hajour :) [13:01] I'm actually only online checking e-mail as I'm migrainey [13:01] * maco hands Pendulum a cup of tea [13:01] warning you'll get migrains from spam [13:03] sorry to hear Pendulum .hope it sal be gone sone. [13:05] my subpage from wiki with poems is ready now [13:07] 2 are in dutch.translation is standing next to the poem.1was english already [14:33] hai MichelleQ [14:35] Hi [17:34] hai charlie-tca [17:37] hi [17:37] Hello, hajour [17:37] I seem to have blinked again [17:38] UndiFineD, have made a pcp key for me [17:38] meaning my internet is doing things wrong [17:38] hajour, great! Glad you got it [17:38] a ok [17:39] i have signed in at the mailing list from accessibilityteam and forum. [17:39] Good. I stay away from the forum, myself. [17:40] and ubuntu beginners [17:40] :) [17:41] my introduction mail to the forum is go wrong.google hat translate it wrong.:( [17:41] now my mail looks stupid [17:42] That can be a problem sometimes. Not to worry, most of us know translations are not always good [17:42] i wanted to be good. [17:42] the mail i mean [17:43] I know, but that is not always possible. [17:44] UndiFineD, hat not time that moment so i hat tryed to do it myself. [17:45] hajour: don't worry about it. :-) [17:45] You are doing fine. [17:46] is the mail also a introduction in the forum from accessibility? [17:47] i mean is it come on the forum site? [17:49] i just dont want to be called stupid again. [17:51] o sorry dont want to be annoying [17:52] have a nice evening all bye [17:58] hajour, to the best of my knowledge, the email to the mailing list does not go to the forums too. I think you do the forums through the browser only. [17:59] ok thanks charlie-tca [18:02] i have finish my other subpage on my wiki profile [18:04] hai Pendulum [18:05] hope you feeling better [18:14] mmm i was wondering .is it the meaning that the ubuntu forums,mail have to be accessible for people with handicap? [18:17] because i had never succeeded without UndiFineD [18:19] i have read the page 5 times.still not remember all. [18:20] mail should be, but it depends on the email client you use. Forums, I don't really know how accessible they are at this time. [18:23] now i have a small monitor.but if have understand good most people got a 15 ore 17 inch monitor? [18:24] Mine are all desktop systems, so I run three monitors, one on each test system. 17, 19, and 22 inch [18:25] also a part of the people have a laptop .there also not realy big i think [18:25] meebey, too [18:26] well, that should be : me, too. [18:26] i mean.if you have 1 for work you dont want to have a heavy laptop i think [18:28] sec. i go trye something out. [18:29] mm dos not work [18:31] have trye ctrl + to make the lines bigger [18:31] but it cant be done [18:34] oke i think i go make a exsample on a subpage with lines i think.ore is that a bad idea? [18:37] Ctrl + won't work? Will View -> Zoom -> Zoom out work ? [18:37] i sal trye sec. [18:39] where view stand? [18:41] mm before my pc was crashed my spelingcontrol was on english.now it is on dutch.how can i get back spellingcontrol in chat in englishs? [18:57] UndiFineD, is sleeping now.he hat not sleep last night. [19:00] i sal ask tomorrow to UndiFineD [19:15] hai JanC [20:03] hai MichelleQ [20:04] have to relog.brb [20:05] back again. [20:05] needed to relog for instaled colors [20:07] MichelleQ, just to be sure.have i doing something wrong? [20:09] evening all [20:09] hai AlanBell [20:09] hi hajour [20:10] hajour: what do you mean wrong? [20:11] hajour: the way you got it on english was to run xchat as: LANG=en xchat [20:11] you was left suddenly. [20:12] oh, no, you'll get used to my coming and going - I'm also a stay-at-home-mom and do a lot of running around [20:13] pff i just a little bit emo i think.i just need to be how you call it stronger.and less sensitive i think [20:14] No worries. I'll tell you honestly if you do something to upset me, and that's pretty difficult to do. [20:15] I was a bit upset.yesterday someone called me stupid in chat.not this one a other. [20:16] chat from ubuntu [20:17] i trye to learn so fast i can realy [20:18] don't worry too much. You're doing just fine. [20:18] :) [20:19] ok [20:19] maco, where can i find ?LANG [20:19] you just type it on the command line [20:19] a ok [20:20] LANG=en xchat [20:20] you can also "gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/xchat.desktop" (i think...) and change the Exec= line to say that if you want the menu one to automatically do it [20:20] i have done it .stil on dutch [20:22] not in the xchat window. open a terminal and run xchat from it that way. you have aspell-en installed right? i think you installed it yesterday [20:23] no someone else have done that [20:24] oh, i thought JanC had you install it yesterday [20:26] i dont remember wo that have done.i cant reed back on chat.history is gone.yesterday my pc was crashed.Undifined have reinstald [20:27] editing that file isn't a good idea (it will be overwritten when there is a package upgrade), better copy it to ~/.local/share/applications/ and edit the copy [20:28] or as an alternative, a simple script can be used for this [20:29] i dont think i knew about that dir [20:29] cant copy in here [20:29] maco: that's where alacarte also puts its overrides [20:30] ah [20:30] it's an fd.o standard location I suppose [20:31] I'm not sure you can use something like LANG=en in .desktop files though [20:32] i have sighned in by mailinglist,forum from accessibility.and in beginnersgroup mail. [20:34] tomorrow undifined helps me with the rest.he hat no sleep last night.he wanted first to fix my pc for me [20:34] so now he was real tired [20:35] he is sleeping now [20:38] o mm if i have understand good.there is also for young people? [20:38] my daughter have ask that [20:41] there is an ubuntu-youth group [20:42] ok.also for dutch?she is afraid her english is not good enough.she got dislectie to [20:42] that I don't know, I think the ubuntu-youth is primarily english [20:43] the regular dutch team may be friendly enough to welcome younger members though [20:43] mm i sal look to it.she is good in pdrwaning and painting in real life [20:44] pff draw dont no to say [20:44] how i mean [20:47] tomorrow i go find out how inkscape works [20:47] hai Pendulum [20:49] it sal be a challenge.normally i work just with paper and pencil enz. [20:49] itll take more than a day... [20:49] yeah, I still don't know my way around inkscape [20:50] i now i dont mind.i am just to that everything takes time [20:50] i just go treu till i can do it [20:51] to bad i got no scanner [20:51] i have some idea s for ubuntu [20:52] i go trye to work that out [20:55] pitty ubuntu have nothing on my skill to make poems. [20:56] XD i now it sounds silly that someone like me makes poems because of my dislectie [20:57] you can always read them ☺ [20:57] or speak them [20:57] i make them [20:57] (reading might be difficult :p ) [20:58] just watch my sub page in my profile [20:58] I mean, you can always say them aloud and record that, instead of writing them down [20:59] till now i have writhe them.and undifined checks on spelling.also i look on google how to writhe [20:59] copie past:)) [21:00] its often to noisy here to record.4 kids [22:27] charlie-tca, do you now ?what is wrong with the chat [22:28] Sorry, I don't know. sometimes the network connections are affected by weather or too many users, though. [22:30] o and i discoverd my subpage with poems is gone [22:36] hajour, what was the page? [22:38] i found it by work ore something i only dont now how to come there treu my page.but this is the page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hajour/poems [22:39] Still there [22:39] I can make it go through your page, if you want [22:42] if you will you make my very happy [22:42] it was the meany it was a sub page [22:45] How's that? [22:46] sec i go look :) [22:47] very nice.you now i have make them myself. [22:47] Happy to help [22:47] i have translate 2.the dutch version stands next to the translation [22:48] 1 was already english [22:48] UndiFineD, have done spelling correction for me [22:49] the english poem fly like a bird is 1 of my first poems i ever made [22:50] more then 2 years ago [22:50] Did you write all three yourself? [22:50] yes [22:50] i got 165 poems written [22:51] WOW! [22:51] and it is not really bad thought [22:55] you now first time my social worker have say i have to try to wright.i laugd .i mean me,dislectie,and i have to wright [22:56] heh [22:56] but it worked, didn't it [22:56] you understand i first thought she was joking [22:57] yes === meetingology` is now known as meetingology [22:58] in this .i was able? dont now it is the right word.to get of my emotions that way [22:59] You wrote that fine. [22:59] but stil i am depending on others about the spelling [23:00] That's okay. At least you are trying [23:00] a dislection program here cost 1295 euro [23:01] i cant pay that [23:01] I understand [23:02] yes it s stays by trying soo you have see [23:02] :) [23:03] i just wonder what i have about that skill. [23:05] someone called DanteAshton might join in a bit, he is a wheelchair user in the UK and interested in helping on the persona project [23:05] * AlanBell is off to bed [23:07] sleep well AlanBell [23:09] hai DanteAshton [23:09] o/ DanteAshton [23:09] Helloooo [23:10] Just wondering if I can be of any use... [23:10] I am done for the day, but ask any questions, and have a look at the existing persona documents [23:11] i dont no mutch DanteAshton i just join in last fryday [23:11] the basic idea of the project is to communicate to developers about accessibility in a more engaging way than before [23:11] Oh goody, I have a knack for going between high level devs and silly end-users... [23:11] excellent [23:11] Thank you, Alan :) [23:12] the personas should all be realistic, but slightly awesome people in some way [23:12] but i have put some sugestions where i had problems with and some solutions to. [23:12] we want people to think, yeah, I could be friends with that person [23:12] hello, DanteAshton [23:13] night all [23:13] Hello, Charlie. [23:14] night AlanBell [23:14] this is my page anyway DanteAshton https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hajour [23:14] Right, what do I do to get started? [23:14] and night AlanBell, thanks again :) [23:15] and this are the sugestions on my sub page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hajour/accesibility [23:15] they hat told me to make a wiki.ubuntu page [23:16] here is the wiki page we started with: [23:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Personas [23:16] i have get help to with it. [23:17] charlie-tca, i wish i good help with it but i needed UndiFineD to to help with the reading and spelling [23:18] I know. but we have to point DanteAshton at it now, too [23:18] yes. [23:18] DanteAshton, it is best to use a sub-page like hajour did [23:18] Bloody hell...UndiFineD, what pies DONT you deal in? [23:18] ? [23:18] You'll have to excuse me, people, I'm trying to calm down my hysterical team-mates [23:18] That man is everywhere... [23:19] lol [23:19] he is my boyfriend [23:19] Okay. A lot of us are all over the place [23:19] Ahhhh...congrats [23:19] No, the Ubuntu Advert Team [23:19] rofl [23:20] i now if he is on chat he has 30 chats open ad the same time XD [23:21] That explains why he is always never around when I need him :P [23:21] he is sleeping now because he slept not last night [23:21] he wanted first to reinstalate my pc [23:22] but after 36 hours no sleep he was realy tired [23:22] its night now here [23:23] Same here, I'm only an hour behind [23:23] :) uk i think [23:23] Right...well...to introduce myself, I'm Dante, a technical writer and graphics artist...if anyone needs a hand with either of those things, do contact me :) [23:24] and your right, hajour [23:24] o great graphics [23:26] sorry for my bad writhing. i got dislectie.i every time guess ore go to google to see how to writhe [23:26] hai MichelleQ [23:26] Dont worry, hajour, I've had a lot of experience dealing with dyslexia, so I can understand you :) [23:26] yes! [23:26] i found my poems back again [23:27] We have a whole wiki we are trying to staighten out. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility [23:27] charlie-tca, have helped to attached on my wiki page [23:27] I will be contacting you for help [23:28] i have good idea s for the persona s charlie-tca but my writhing is terrible [23:28] i have helped UndiFineD also with daniela [23:28] I know you do. Maybe DanteAshton can help you, too [23:28] I'd be happy to :) [23:29] its just that spelling :( [23:29] nice [23:30] ahhhh poo....sadly, hajour, I'm required back in the real world now, but I'll help soon! [23:30] Toodles everyone! [23:30] if he can do the spelling correction. i sal do gtommorrow the persona s [23:31] Great! you have some really good ideas, so things will start rolling now. [23:31] if my pc was not crashed i hat writhe to day already [23:32] <`marianne`> hiya [23:33] cant help it to see the sense of humor from it i write .with my dislectie [23:33] hiya marianne [23:33] Hello, `marianne` [23:34] hajour, you will do fine [23:35] charlie-tca, i stil have to use on it that people think i got idea s. think it needs time [23:35] good idea s i mean [23:36] This it correct. Sometimes it does come as a surprise, doesn't it? [23:36] yes i am not use to that [23:38] o and charlie-tca i dont now when someone is new ore not [23:40] hai Cheri703 [23:40] hi hajour [23:44] where i can find the page to see who is working on which part of the accessibility program [23:44] hajour, you will get where you know new and old people. Usually, we get told, just like with Dante today [23:44] Hello, Cheri703 [23:44] hey charlie-tca [23:44] ok charlie-tca [23:44] how goes things today? [23:45] Cheri703, how goes things today? [23:45] alright, just killing time while husband is in a meeting [23:46] oops almost forgot to take my medicin brb [23:46] great! [23:47] times like this I love having a netbook :) [23:53] back again [23:54] netbook? [23:54] small laptop without a cd drive [23:54] a ok [23:55] eeepc you mean? [23:55] something like that? [23:56] yes, mine is from zareason, it came with ubuntu on it [23:56] but same idea [23:58] i got eeepc.it is Undifined s old work laptop.my old pc was deceased :) after 7 years hard work [23:59] hajour, I think the wiki page you want does not exist [23:59] ? [23:59] how can that [23:59] who is working on which part [23:59] a ok [23:59] I don't think it is written down, since we all just work where needed [23:59] mm