[00:13] <BobJonkman> Any Channel Ops around to change the /topic to show that we *have* LoCo re-approval?
[00:16] <tonyyarusso> None of them are here right now (!), but you're probably most likely to find hypatia.
[00:19] <BobJonkman> OK, I'll bug her when she show.  dscassel may have ChanOp too
[00:33] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Nope, I don't. I probably should, I guess.
[00:33] <BobJonkman> So the world revolves around hypatia ...
[00:33] <dscassel> Yup.
[00:41] <tonyyarusso> The people who have ops currently are Burgundavia, Madpilot, hypatia, and coleSLAW.
[01:12] <dscassel> Corey (Burgundavia), Brian (Madpilot) and Simon (coleSLAW) are all admins from the original team.  They aren't around much anymore.
[01:17] <MikeS11> Hey ubuntu-ca
[01:17] <dscassel> Hey, MikeS11
[01:17] <dscassel> What's up?
[01:18] <MikeS11> Nothing much. About to tackle a nagios install for the 3rd time.
[01:18] <dscassel> Ooh, fun.
[01:19] <MikeS11> Yeah. New guide, this one was suggested by somebody in #nagios
[01:19] <MikeS11> I'm expecting it to go better
[01:20] <dscassel> Good luck!
[01:20] <MikeS11> Thanks.
[01:20] <dscassel> tonyyarusso: If I can swing it, would you be interested in being an op?
[01:25]  * tonyyarusso knows Nagios, might be able to help MikeS11, fyi
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> dscassel: I'm fine with the duties (I'm an op in #ubuntu), but I'm not really around here terribly regularly.
[01:26] <MikeS11> If I run headlong into a wall (built of fire or otherwise) I'll try him, thanks.
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> Also, there's a PPA (~nagiosinc) if you insist on having the latest version.
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> (installing things from source is yucky)
[01:39] <MikeS11> tonyyarusso: just noticed your an OP on #nagios. also, yes. source is yicky. this time its apt-get
[01:42] <dscassel> tonyyarusso: Noted.
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> dscassel: Find me a job offer in Thunder Bay next year and I'll suddenly become more common ;)
[02:00] <dscassel> tonyyarusso: I have a friend in Nipigon I could ask...
[02:00] <tonyyarusso> dscassel: Really?  That would actually be useful.
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> dscassel: Backstory if you don't remember:  I'm currently in the US (where I was born), going to school.  Once I finish my degree I would like to emigrate to Canada, with Thunder Bay being my 1st choice for destination city, and doing so will be vastly easier with a job offer at that time.
[02:01] <dscassel> I'll see what I can do... :)
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> If it helps, you can tell him that 'nipigon' is the hostname of my netbook ;)
[02:02] <dscassel> Her. And considering she's the economic development officer for the town, that might help. :)
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> Her, righto.  Awesome :P
[03:18] <MikeS11> nagios installed
[03:18] <MikeS11> :D\
[03:18] <MikeS11> http://jsquaredconsulting.com/blog/2010/11/installing-nagios-on-ubuntu-10-10/
[03:18] <MikeS11> i was using this guide
[03:19] <MikeS11> basically it just told me apt-get install nagios3
[03:19] <MikeS11> tonyyarusso: does installing it from apt give me the plugins also?
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> MikeS11: It can - they're in a separate package (nagios-plugins)
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> Those are further broken down into -standard, -extra, -snmp, -basic, and -nrpe.  nagios-plugins depends on -basic and -standard; the rest you can get separately.
[03:28] <MikeS11> tonyyarusso: thanks.
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> See also nagios-images, nagios-nrpe-server, and nsca packages, although be warned that the nagios-images package is being dropped upstream in Debian due to licensing uncertainty.
[03:29] <MikeS11> its just icons mostly yes?
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> Mostly trademarked icons :P
[03:46] <MikeS11> o no
[03:46] <MikeS11> hehe
[03:46] <MikeS11> Do I have to install the docs seperately?
[03:46] <MikeS11> It is telling me that /nagios3/docs/index.html is missing.
[03:47] <MikeS11> and I verified that this isn't just a permissions issue.
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> MikeS11: Yes, Ubuntu & Debian packaging frequently breaks out documentation for significantly-sized things into a separate package.
[04:05] <MikeS11> tonyyarusso: I just looked, and sure enough there was a nagios3-doc package. *sigh*
[05:30] <MikeS11> What do you guys think of the LPIC?
[05:39] <dscassel> LPIC?
[05:39] <MikeS11> linux professional institute certification
[05:39] <dscassel> Ah.
[05:40] <dscassel> I'm not a big fan of certifications.
[05:40] <dscassel> But they can be helpful for getting a job, I suppose.
[05:40] <dscassel> Particularly if you don't have a degree/diploma in a directly related field.
[05:40] <MikeS11> That's why I'm looking into it.
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> I have the LPIC-1 certification actually.
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> I REALLY should be getting the level 2 one sometime soon.
[05:41] <MikeS11> Well, I have a college diploma. But to offset my lack of experience I was hoping to bolster my chances with a cert(s)
[05:41] <MikeS11> tonyyarusso, can you explain the approximate skill level the LPIC-1 represents?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> "Knows their way around Linux more than the average bear."
[05:42] <MikeS11> haha, ok.
[05:42] <MikeS11> level 2 would be script circles around the average bear?
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> It's the "Junior sysadmin" level - familiarity with all the basic command line tools, core system components (init, CUPS, X, etc.) and a few key applications.
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> pretty much, yeah
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> LPI actually has very detailed lists of the competencies expected for each on their web site too.
[05:43] <MikeS11> level 2 is the j. sysadmin?
[05:44] <MikeS11> Ok, I'll go read that and leave you alone. ;)
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Junior Level Linux Professional (LPIC-1)
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Advanced Level Linux Professional (LPIC-2)
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Senior Level Linux Professional (LPIC-3)
[05:44] <MikeS11> ahhh. that make sense.
[05:44] <MikeS11> Thanks!
[07:42] <MikeS11> QUIT [bedtime]
[07:42] <MikeS11> damn...
[15:30] <dscassel> BobJonkman, you'll be happy to know the LoCo directory has finally fixed the time zone issue. http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/553/detail/
[15:51] <hypatia> dscassel: yay!
[15:59] <dscassel> You just need to add the timezone to the venue.
[16:05] <IdleOne> hypatia: Congrats on getting +o in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:09] <hypatia> IdleOne: thanks :)
[16:09] <IdleOne> So why aren't you in there :P
[16:10] <IdleOne> Person gets  new job and doesn't show up the first week hehe
[16:10] <hypatia> IdleOne: it's end-of-term crunch time
[16:10] <IdleOne> ahh, ok
[16:10] <IdleOne> well in that case, school first