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jonofolks, want to test Unity in Natty? http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/11/30/testing-natty-and-unity-safely-with-a-usb-stick/00:42
* popey retweets00:46
* popey hugs jono for making him open spotify and play Tusk.00:47
jonopopey, hehe00:47
jono:-)00:47
popey:)00:47
jonosuch an awesome song00:47
popeyyeah00:47
jononever even struck me that it might pre-date the ewok song lol00:48
popey:)00:48
popeySad as it sounds, I'm now listening to Jolene by Dolly Parton :)00:48
jonohah00:49
JFoI have a good mashup of Jolene01:10
* nigelb waves to teh JFo 01:16
* JFo waves to nigelb 01:16
nigelbJFo: Had a good holiday :)?01:16
jcastroheya doctormo01:28
akgranerjcastro - you worked on UWN in the early days right?01:40
jcastrolike 5 years ago maybe?01:40
akgranerawesome  - if I send you a link could you take a look at and give some feedback? (not tonight but before Thursday 2300 UTC)01:42
jcastroI'm not doing anything now01:44
jcastrosend er over!01:44
jcastroalso, how's things?01:44
jcastroI see you're ignoring my advice and working on Ubuntu. :p01:44
akgranergoing well :-)  I am not working on much Ubuntu stuff (just the news team stuff getting it ready to hand over to various rotating publishing editors :D)01:45
nigelbhaha01:45
akgranernigelb, I am afraid to ask what the "haha" means :-P01:50
nigelbakgraner: that was in response to jcastro's "I see you're ignoring my advice and working on Ubuntu. :p"01:50
akgraner:-)01:52
nhandler5902:03
nigelbnhandler: 42! 42!02:05
nhandler:)02:06
cjohnstonI hate it when I miss the ctrl g02:06
nhandlercjohnston: It is just a missed / for me ;)02:06
nigelbnhandler: that's exactly what cjwatson told me when I typd some number in a channel :p02:06
cjohnstonoo.. just a /#02:07
nhandlercjohnston: Yeah02:07
cjohnstonI have to ctrl g.. !fail02:07
nhandlercjohnston: What client?02:07
nhandlernigelb: At leat my typo is better than dholbach's from UDW (which I just saw today in Rhonda's signature)02:07
macowhats that?02:08
nigelbyeah, what was that?02:08
nhandlermaco: He said irc.feenode.net and Rhonda responsed with, "Are they fundraising again?"02:08
nigelbhaha02:09
macohaha02:09
nigelbnhandler: signature? on a mail?02:09
macowikifeedia?02:09
cjohnstonirssi02:09
nhandlernigelb: Yeah. I saw it on her 'Debian WWW Spring, Dec 17th to 19th' email02:09
cjohnstonfeenode is bugging me to reup my donation02:10
cjohnstonor paypal ios for them02:10
nhandlercjohnston: /script exec foreach (1..500) { Irssi::command("alias $_ window $_"); }02:10
nigelbhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2010/11/msg00187.html02:11
nigelbHAAHAHA02:11
cjohnstonthat makes it to where if i do /50 it goes to window 50?02:11
nhandlercjohnston: Yep. Up to /50002:12
cjohnstonhmm02:12
cjohnstonooo02:13
cjohnstonvery cool02:13
cjohnstonnow i have to relearn myself02:16
nhandlercjohnston: It is rather useful, especially when on weird terminals connecting over ssh where certain keyboard shortcuts don't work02:17
cjohnstonya02:18
doctormohey jcastro, sorry for the delay, laundry02:18
jcastrono worries02:19
doctormoHow's your day?02:19
jcastroI was just going to point out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15228/why-wont-samba-let-me-delete-a-file/15310#1531002:19
jcastrosince people don't seem to get the editing bit, when you ask someone a question in a comment, can you remind them to just edit their question?02:19
doctormosure thing02:19
jcastrosomething like "Are you using the tmp directory? Please update your answer blah blah"02:20
jcastroI ran into a disaster question02:20
jcastrolet me find it, it's funny02:20
doctormoSounds interesting02:23
* cjohnston thinks jcastro works on ask ubuntu 24/702:28
nigelbcjohnston: nah, till he reaches 200 points02:29
jcastrothat's not true, I am just a quick typer02:29
nigelbjcastro: Relax, jono isn't here :p02:29
jcastrohahaah02:29
jcastroyou guys are just jealous of my epic answers: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15418/how-can-i-change-the-default-program-for-viewing-pictures-and-photos/15434#1543402:29
jcastrobtw, Shutter is the greatest tool ever02:29
jcastroit took me about 15 seconds to take all those02:29
cjohnstonI need easy questions to answer.. like bitesize bugs02:30
cjohnstonlol02:30
nhandlerjcastro: I just use the normal screenshot tool02:30
nigelbcjohnston: try stackoverflow02:30
nigelbit took me like 3 months to 150+!02:30
jcastronhandler: oh man, try shutter, it's epic02:30
jcastrocjohnston: you can get lots of rep just by asking good questions02:31
nigelbyeah, like I reached 98 :p02:31
nhandlerjcastro: I think that is on my to-try list from some blog post I read a while ago02:31
cjohnstonI dont have good questions to ask02:31
cjohnstonlol02:31
nhandlercjohnston: Do what I do, find old questions and give good answers. That way, you don't need to "race" other people02:31
cjohnstonlol02:32
* nhandler almost has some more time to go back to askubuntu again, just a few more college apps to go ;)02:33
jcastrohttp://odata.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/s/664/power-askers?MinimumReputation=400&MinimumPercentage=50&MinimumQuestions=502:35
jcastrothere's some power askers right there02:35
nigelbjcastro: which was the funny answer?02:37
nigelbrather the 'disaster question'02:37
jcastrooh crap, I forgot to keep looking for it02:37
jcastroone sec02:37
nigelbheh02:38
jcastroman, I was just on it today02:40
jcastrobut like, every page on that site is in my browser history!02:41
nigelblol02:41
jcastrook next time I find it02:45
jcastroI will bring it up02:45
nigelbhaha, search fail02:45
jcastrohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/14261/not-able-to-install-vlc-1-102:45
jcastroaha!02:45
jcastroclick the comments at the bottom02:45
jcastroto expand them02:45
nigelbjcastro: hahaha02:47
nigelbthat's like a whole irc conv right there02:47
nigelband the guy didn't event seelct it as the rigth answer after all the trobule02:48
jcastroWell I was going to go in and edit the whole thing02:49
jcastrobut then I realized that they were just in a loop of confusion02:49
nigelbheh02:49
nigelbI feel askubuntu.com easy02:49
nigelbstackoverflow is /really/ hard!02:50
nigelbAnd a lost of questions are answered in like seconds O_O02:50
jcastroyeah02:50
jcastroreading the front page of SO makes no sense, you gotta go tag-specific or you are doomed02:50
nigelbI read front page :D02:51
nigelb(and tags too)02:51
jcastrowhat we need help with on AU is the asking of good questions tbh02:52
jcastroand voting02:52
jcastronot enough high quality voting going on02:52
jcastrohttp://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/740/how-can-we-motivate-the-community-to-vote-more02:52
jcastroany help here would be appreciated02:52
doctormoI seem to have set my computer to sepia tone thanks to ask ubuntu :-/02:58
jcastrohah, redshift02:58
jcastrobeen there02:58
doctormoDo you know how to reset it? or should I askubuntu ;-)03:01
czajkowskialoha06:16
nigelbMornin czajkowski06:17
czajkowskinigelb: hi06:21
nigelbczajkowski: How has your morning been? :-)06:22
czajkowskijust out of bed06:30
czajkowskiseen snow :(06:31
nigelbsnow \o/06:31
* nigelb spys on popey's webcam06:31
nigelbNo, its not light yet06:31
dholbachgood morning!07:12
nigelbMorning...07:12
popeymorning dholbach07:39
dholbachhey popey, hey nigelb07:39
dpmgood morning everyone!07:41
popeyhey dpm07:42
nigelbMorning dpm :)07:42
dpmheya popey, hey nigelb :)07:42
dholbachhola dpm07:45
dpmmorgen dholbach ;)07:46
kim0Morning08:01
nigelbMorning kim008:01
nigelbHeya ara :)08:01
kim0nigelb: hey :)08:01
dpmmorning kim009:08
dholbachhey kim009:13
popeydholbach: seen mail from Caspar Clemens Mierau?09:23
dholbachpopey, yes09:27
popeyopinion?09:27
dholbachhe's still doing great work in the Berlin team - seems like he really just missed the mail because of something weird with his mail server09:27
popeyok, I'll re-add him09:28
dholbachsweet09:29
dholbachthanks09:30
kim0dpm: dholbach hey folks09:44
dakergood morning all09:53
dakerkim0, how was the elections ?09:59
kim0daker: the usual crap :)10:11
dholbachdaker, AIUI 25% of people voted, Mubarak's party got more seats than they had before10:11
kim0daker: violence and cheating10:12
dakerdholbach, i don't trust media ツ10:16
dakerkim0, :s10:17
dakerمن سيء إلى أسوء10:17
kim0yeah ..10:17
kim0the only hope is for the b*** to die :)10:17
dakerand wikileaks adds more oil to the fire10:20
kim0gah why isn't googlecl in lucid10:22
* nigelb waits for kim0 to enter the magical world of packaging10:23
kim0yeah indeed10:25
dakerkim0, did the IS removed the portal from the staging server ?10:27
dakerkim0, there is only the apache default page10:29
kim0daker: no one really mentioned anything .. it's apache for me too10:29
daker\o/10:31
dakerkim0, i am mading a good progress, the next portal is on the road11:02
kim0daker: woohoo :)11:03
kim0daker: rock on11:03
kim0daker: when it is in some demo'able state .. let me know man11:03
dakerkim0, ok11:04
dakerkim0, share the ami app with me11:04
kim0daker: lp:~kim0/+junk/cloudubuntu11:05
dakerok11:05
dakerkim0, i don't think we will use any mirrorring app11:09
dakers/mirrorring/mirroring11:09
kim0daker: explain some more ?11:10
dakersince every think we be centralized11:10
dakerok11:11
dakerkim0, before we used a mirroring app that grab the content from the wiki11:11
dakerspecially the UEC book11:11
dakerkim0, do you think we still need  a mirroring app ?11:13
kim0daker: Yeah I still think we do .. the idea being we keep the editable content in one place and view it from multiple11:14
kim0daker: for a quick demo .. you can not bother with that though11:14
dakerok11:15
duanedesignmorning all11:30
dakerkim0, do you think we need a wiki or a cms ?11:35
kim0daker: do we need to decide now ? I mean it depends on how the community will be able to interact with the site .. Can we have a basic demo first .. then see how we can take this forward11:37
dakersure11:37
kim0daker: thanks man :)11:38
duanedesignhello kim011:38
kim0duanedesign: hey o/11:38
kim0duanedesign: how's it going11:38
duanedesignkim0: word on the street is you have a video11:38
kim0duanedesign: lol .. indeed11:38
kim0duanedesign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYJLIfVuSMY11:39
duanedesignkim0: I would love to help distribute it by putting it on the screencast team resources11:39
duanedesignkim0: :)11:39
kim0duanedesign: please do11:39
kim0duanedesign: You can get the orig by >> wget http://ubuntuone.com/p/RBH/ -O cloudcast1.mov11:39
duanedesignexcellent11:40
kim0duanedesign: thanks :)11:41
RawChidI have some questions about the Leadership Code of Conduct11:41
RawChidCan I ask them here?11:41
AlanBellRawChid: sure11:45
RawChidGreat, it's about Conflicts of Interest. I quote: "They realize that perceived conflicts of interest are as important as real conflicts of interest and are cognizant of perceptions; they understand that their actions are as tainted by perceived conflicts as by real ones."11:46
RawChidCan you explain to me the difference between perceived conflicts and real conflicts?11:46
AlanBellgosh that is a lot of long words in there!11:47
AlanBelllet me think of an example11:47
RawChidHehe, I've translated it, and I 'think' I know what it means. But I get a lot of questions about it, so I want to be sure :)11:48
dakerkim0, interesting11:52
nigelbThat is one interesting sentence!11:53
kim0huh :)11:53
nigelberr, I meant the one about conflict of interest . . .11:53
dakeri meant the screencast11:53
AlanBellbasically it means if other people think you have a conflict of interest then you should do something about it other than just deny that it is in fact a conflict of interest11:54
kim0daker: cool .. blogging it11:55
nigelblol, now its more confusing :p11:55
RawChidAlanBell, thnx11:55
dakerkim0, i don't have a blog but i'll share it11:55
kim0daker: If you're on FB .. www.facebook.com/ubuntucloud11:55
dakerkim0, done!!11:58
kim0cool11:58
jcastrough14:28
* popey tickles jcastro 14:36
vishwhy does no one tickle popey ! popey is always the tickler (does such a word exist?) ;p14:46
popeyyes14:46
vishhehe, popey, The Tickler!  :D14:47
kim0:)14:55
JFoPopey, The Knight Ticklar15:00
=== dholbach_ is now known as dholbach
jcastrohey dholbach15:46
jcastrodo you have a recording of your ustream?15:46
dholbachjcastro, yes, it's on my page there15:47
dholbachhang on15:47
jcastrohey kim015:47
kim0jcastro: hey15:47
jcastrodo you have the recordings of your Q+A?15:47
jcastroah, now that jono is here15:47
dholbachjcastro, http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11079901 - are you one of the "I want to see the dog" fanatics too? :-P15:47
jcastroI noticed that kim0 has a seperate cloud youtube account15:47
jonohey all15:47
jcastrowhy not have those all consolidated into the youtube developer channel?15:47
kim0jono: howdy15:47
jcastroit's not like we're exactly swamped in content15:47
jonojcastro, why would cloud users be interested in ubuntu development?15:48
* kim0 nods15:48
jcastrowell the developer channel is where we put like all our stuff, I am thinking audience size15:48
dholbachthey should be! think of how many ubuntu developers we'd have! :)15:48
jonosure, but developer channel doesnt make sense as a channel name for everything15:48
jonomaybe a general ubuntu channel sure, but not the dev channel15:48
jcastrosure, so how about the occasional cloud one in the developer channel as well? If it's related15:49
kim0Can we have like a master Ubuntu channel that aggregates them all15:49
jcastrokim0: yeah that's kind of been what the developer channel has been, other than the "developer channel" name15:49
kim0I don't mind throwing the video everywhere :)15:50
jcastrohmmm15:50
jcastrothere has to be a slicker way to throw ustream archives into the developer channel15:50
dakerkim0, checkout my version http://paste.ubuntu.com/538316/15:54
jonojcastro, if I subscribed to an ubuntu dev channel and started getting lot sof non dev stuff I would be pretty narked off15:54
jono:-)15:54
jcastrowell, I think it's been more "stuff FROM the ubuntu developers"15:55
jonojcastro, not really15:57
jonoit was originally set up for packaging tutorials15:58
jcastrotrue15:58
kim0jcastro: with that reasoning .. we should have a single FB page, a single twitter account ... etc ?!15:58
jcastrokim0: I was thinking of it more of like a "planet" for all the video feeds15:58
jcastrofine fine, don't tase me bros!15:58
kim0jcastro: I wouldn't mind a planet style one .. it just shouldn't have "developers" in its name15:59
kim0The Ubuntu channel sounds fine :)15:59
jcastroI would rather not create a new one.15:59
jcastrostatus quo then?15:59
* jcastro wanders off before he has to make a new portal15:59
kim0hehe16:00
jonodpm, one sec, wrapping a convo16:00
dpmok, no worries16:02
kim0convo sounds yummy16:03
jonohaha16:04
jonodpm, ok logging onto skype now16:04
jcastrodholbach: I think you should make a graph of all the videos in all our channels16:06
* jcastro plays with fire this morning16:06
dholbachjcastro, yeah? you think so? I think you should .. ... .... ....... :-P16:08
kim0hehehee16:08
dholbachbrb :)16:11
=== kim0_ is now known as kim0
dholbachalright my friends16:37
dholbachI call it a day - see you all tomorrow!16:37
JFosee you dholbach16:37
JFo:)16:37
paultagpleia2, posting those photos on that email thread to my blog :)16:37
dholbachsee you JFo16:37
JFohave a great evening!16:38
dholbachyou too16:39
jcastrooh thank god17:02
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/68150017:02
jcastronow I can unity fulltime!17:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 681500 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Quicklist default items + Keep/remove favorite (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix released]17:02
jcastro<---- lunching17:09
czajkowskialoha17:35
=== jcastro_ is now known as jcastro
duanedesignoff for lunch18:14
jcastroJFo: yo18:14
JFojcastro, dude :)18:14
jcastroJust saying hi18:14
jcastroman, I cooked some mean rice and chili just now18:15
JFohey buddy18:15
JFooh man, that sounds good18:15
* JFo plans chili18:15
nisshhjcastro, oh far out, your making my mouth water and im *really* hungry as it is! :)18:15
jcastrojono: good unity update19:10
jcastroyou can now remove and add things to the launcher19:10
jcastrojust need the quicklists!19:10
jonojcastro, nice!19:31
huatshello everyone19:53
jcastrohi huats19:53
jcastrolong time no see!19:53
huatsjcastro, hi my friend !19:53
huatsindeed ...19:53
huatsI am really busy lately19:53
huats(work, baby...)19:53
huatsbut it should be the last week with such work load :)19:53
huatsjcastro, how are you ?19:54
huats(and the last week that I spend in a client building without internet access too...)19:54
jcastrogood20:01
jcastrocongrats on the child process!20:01
huats:)20:03
jcastrojono: when you have about 10 minutes to spare I'd like a quick skype20:20
huatsjcastro, well the child is growing fast (already 10 months !!!) and I have to admit that I can't see the time passing by :)20:21
jcastrohuats: if he takes after you that means he must be about 3 feet tall by now20:22
huatsjcastro, not already 3 feet... but let's say that we need to wear him with 24 months old clothes :)20:22
jonojcastro, can't chat for a bit, can we talk in an hour or so?20:26
jonojcastro, quick call?21:06
jonojcastro, will call your cell21:06
jcastrojono: ok, so instead of the emailing part of the process21:13
jcastrohere's what I think v2 should kind of look like21:13
jcastrohttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/arb.png21:13
jcastroclicking submit takes the data and then files the bug for the ARB21:14
jonojcastro, oh yeah we discussed this in the past, we just need someone to do the work :)21:16
jcastroright, because as I was reading the app process I was like "why is it asking me the URL for the PPA, launchpad knows all this already"21:17
jcastroetc.21:17
jonojcastro, totally, if there is a hacker to write this, then it would be awesome :-)21:17
jonoand afaik this is happening with a dev portal21:17
jonowhich I believe ISD are working on21:17
jonoI am not sure of the specifics though21:17
jcastroah ok21:18
jcastrois there an arb-esque mailing list?21:18
jcastroI just need a place to file the idea21:18
jonojcastro, no, no list21:18
jonoconsider it filed :-)21:18
jonoI will mention it to Rick21:18
jonolike I say, it was already in the plan anyway21:18
jcastrook cool, I just needed the mental validation21:19
* jcastro whistles21:19
jonolol21:19
jcastrojono: any luck on wp access?21:23
jonojcastro, nothing yet21:23
jonolet me ping again21:23
kim0jono: anyway to ping IS some more :)21:59
jonokim0, your ticket is being worked on22:00
kim0ah cool :)22:00
akgraneris there a special hashtag to use for Ubuntu translations?22:33
nigelbMorning all22:59
cjohnstonjcastro: your mr. unity man, who runs unity.ubuntu.com23:01
cjohnstonhmm.. would that be a good question for askubuntu.. lol23:03
jcastrocjohnston: me23:38
jcastrobut I don't have the access yet23:38
jcastroto fix all the errors people are reporting23:38
jcastrosoon though, hopefully tomorrowish23:38
cjohnstonok.. there are some bugs filed under the ubuntu-website project for it.. are you in charge of uds.u.c also?23:39
jcastroyes23:39
jcastrojust assign them to me please23:39
cjohnstonok23:40

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