[00:42] <jono> folks, want to test Unity in Natty? http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/11/30/testing-natty-and-unity-safely-with-a-usb-stick/
[00:46]  * popey retweets
[00:47]  * popey hugs jono for making him open spotify and play Tusk.
[00:47] <jono> popey, hehe
[00:47] <jono> :-)
[00:47] <popey> :)
[00:47] <jono> such an awesome song
[00:47] <popey> yeah
[00:48] <jono> never even struck me that it might pre-date the ewok song lol
[00:48] <popey> :)
[00:48] <popey> Sad as it sounds, I'm now listening to Jolene by Dolly Parton :)
[00:49] <jono> hah
[01:10] <JFo> I have a good mashup of Jolene
[01:16]  * nigelb waves to teh JFo 
[01:16]  * JFo waves to nigelb 
[01:16] <nigelb> JFo: Had a good holiday :)?
[01:28] <jcastro> heya doctormo
[01:40] <akgraner> jcastro - you worked on UWN in the early days right?
[01:40] <jcastro> like 5 years ago maybe?
[01:42] <akgraner> awesome  - if I send you a link could you take a look at and give some feedback? (not tonight but before Thursday 2300 UTC)
[01:44] <jcastro> I'm not doing anything now
[01:44] <jcastro> send er over!
[01:44] <jcastro> also, how's things?
[01:44] <jcastro> I see you're ignoring my advice and working on Ubuntu. :p
[01:45] <akgraner> going well :-)  I am not working on much Ubuntu stuff (just the news team stuff getting it ready to hand over to various rotating publishing editors :D)
[01:45] <nigelb> haha
[01:50] <akgraner> nigelb, I am afraid to ask what the "haha" means :-P
[01:50] <nigelb> akgraner: that was in response to jcastro's "I see you're ignoring my advice and working on Ubuntu. :p"
[01:52] <akgraner> :-)
[02:03] <nhandler> 59
[02:05] <nigelb> nhandler: 42! 42!
[02:06] <nhandler> :)
[02:06] <cjohnston> I hate it when I miss the ctrl g
[02:06] <nhandler> cjohnston: It is just a missed / for me ;)
[02:06] <nigelb> nhandler: that's exactly what cjwatson told me when I typd some number in a channel :p
[02:07] <cjohnston> oo.. just a /#
[02:07] <nhandler> cjohnston: Yeah
[02:07] <cjohnston> I have to ctrl g.. !fail
[02:07] <nhandler> cjohnston: What client?
[02:07] <nhandler> nigelb: At leat my typo is better than dholbach's from UDW (which I just saw today in Rhonda's signature)
[02:08] <maco> whats that?
[02:08] <nigelb> yeah, what was that?
[02:08] <nhandler> maco: He said irc.feenode.net and Rhonda responsed with, "Are they fundraising again?"
[02:09] <nigelb> haha
[02:09] <maco> haha
[02:09] <nigelb> nhandler: signature? on a mail?
[02:09] <maco> wikifeedia?
[02:09] <cjohnston> irssi
[02:09] <nhandler> nigelb: Yeah. I saw it on her 'Debian WWW Spring, Dec 17th to 19th' email
[02:10] <cjohnston> feenode is bugging me to reup my donation
[02:10] <cjohnston> or paypal ios for them
[02:10] <nhandler> cjohnston: /script exec foreach (1..500) { Irssi::command("alias $_ window $_"); }
[02:11] <nigelb> http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2010/11/msg00187.html
[02:11] <nigelb> HAAHAHA
[02:11] <cjohnston> that makes it to where if i do /50 it goes to window 50?
[02:12] <nhandler> cjohnston: Yep. Up to /500
[02:12] <cjohnston> hmm
[02:13] <cjohnston> ooo
[02:13] <cjohnston> very cool
[02:16] <cjohnston> now i have to relearn myself
[02:17] <nhandler> cjohnston: It is rather useful, especially when on weird terminals connecting over ssh where certain keyboard shortcuts don't work
[02:18] <cjohnston> ya
[02:18] <doctormo> hey jcastro, sorry for the delay, laundry
[02:19] <jcastro> no worries
[02:19] <doctormo> How's your day?
[02:19] <jcastro> I was just going to point out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15228/why-wont-samba-let-me-delete-a-file/15310#15310
[02:19] <jcastro> since people don't seem to get the editing bit, when you ask someone a question in a comment, can you remind them to just edit their question?
[02:19] <doctormo> sure thing
[02:20] <jcastro> something like "Are you using the tmp directory? Please update your answer blah blah"
[02:20] <jcastro> I ran into a disaster question
[02:20] <jcastro> let me find it, it's funny
[02:23] <doctormo> Sounds interesting
[02:28]  * cjohnston thinks jcastro works on ask ubuntu 24/7
[02:29] <nigelb> cjohnston: nah, till he reaches 200 points
[02:29] <jcastro> that's not true, I am just a quick typer
[02:29] <nigelb> jcastro: Relax, jono isn't here :p
[02:29] <jcastro> hahaah
[02:29] <jcastro> you guys are just jealous of my epic answers: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15418/how-can-i-change-the-default-program-for-viewing-pictures-and-photos/15434#15434
[02:29] <jcastro> btw, Shutter is the greatest tool ever
[02:29] <jcastro> it took me about 15 seconds to take all those
[02:30] <cjohnston> I need easy questions to answer.. like bitesize bugs
[02:30] <cjohnston> lol
[02:30] <nhandler> jcastro: I just use the normal screenshot tool
[02:30] <nigelb> cjohnston: try stackoverflow
[02:30] <nigelb> it took me like 3 months to 150+!
[02:30] <jcastro> nhandler: oh man, try shutter, it's epic
[02:31] <jcastro> cjohnston: you can get lots of rep just by asking good questions
[02:31] <nigelb> yeah, like I reached 98 :p
[02:31] <nhandler> jcastro: I think that is on my to-try list from some blog post I read a while ago
[02:31] <cjohnston> I dont have good questions to ask
[02:31] <cjohnston> lol
[02:31] <nhandler> cjohnston: Do what I do, find old questions and give good answers. That way, you don't need to "race" other people
[02:32] <cjohnston> lol
[02:33]  * nhandler almost has some more time to go back to askubuntu again, just a few more college apps to go ;)
[02:35] <jcastro> http://odata.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/s/664/power-askers?MinimumReputation=400&MinimumPercentage=50&MinimumQuestions=5
[02:35] <jcastro> there's some power askers right there
[02:37] <nigelb> jcastro: which was the funny answer?
[02:37] <nigelb> rather the 'disaster question'
[02:37] <jcastro> oh crap, I forgot to keep looking for it
[02:37] <jcastro> one sec
[02:38] <nigelb> heh
[02:40] <jcastro> man, I was just on it today
[02:41] <jcastro> but like, every page on that site is in my browser history!
[02:41] <nigelb> lol
[02:45] <jcastro> ok next time I find it
[02:45] <jcastro> I will bring it up
[02:45] <nigelb> haha, search fail
[02:45] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/14261/not-able-to-install-vlc-1-1
[02:45] <jcastro> aha!
[02:45] <jcastro> click the comments at the bottom
[02:45] <jcastro> to expand them
[02:47] <nigelb> jcastro: hahaha
[02:47] <nigelb> that's like a whole irc conv right there
[02:48] <nigelb> and the guy didn't event seelct it as the rigth answer after all the trobule
[02:49] <jcastro> Well I was going to go in and edit the whole thing
[02:49] <jcastro> but then I realized that they were just in a loop of confusion
[02:49] <nigelb> heh
[02:49] <nigelb> I feel askubuntu.com easy
[02:50] <nigelb> stackoverflow is /really/ hard!
[02:50] <nigelb> And a lost of questions are answered in like seconds O_O
[02:50] <jcastro> yeah
[02:50] <jcastro> reading the front page of SO makes no sense, you gotta go tag-specific or you are doomed
[02:51] <nigelb> I read front page :D
[02:51] <nigelb> (and tags too)
[02:52] <jcastro> what we need help with on AU is the asking of good questions tbh
[02:52] <jcastro> and voting
[02:52] <jcastro> not enough high quality voting going on
[02:52] <jcastro> http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/740/how-can-we-motivate-the-community-to-vote-more
[02:52] <jcastro> any help here would be appreciated
[02:58] <doctormo> I seem to have set my computer to sepia tone thanks to ask ubuntu :-/
[02:58] <jcastro> hah, redshift
[02:58] <jcastro> been there
[03:01] <doctormo> Do you know how to reset it? or should I askubuntu ;-)
[06:16] <czajkowski> aloha
[06:17] <nigelb> Mornin czajkowski
[06:21] <czajkowski> nigelb: hi
[06:22] <nigelb> czajkowski: How has your morning been? :-)
[06:30] <czajkowski> just out of bed
[06:31] <czajkowski> seen snow :(
[06:31] <nigelb> snow \o/
[06:31]  * nigelb spys on popey's webcam
[06:31] <nigelb> No, its not light yet
[07:12] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:12] <nigelb> Morning...
[07:39] <popey> morning dholbach
[07:39] <dholbach> hey popey, hey nigelb
[07:41] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[07:42] <popey> hey dpm
[07:42] <nigelb> Morning dpm :)
[07:42] <dpm> heya popey, hey nigelb :)
[07:45] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:46] <dpm> morgen dholbach ;)
[08:01] <kim0> Morning
[08:01] <nigelb> Morning kim0
[08:01] <nigelb> Heya ara :)
[08:01] <kim0> nigelb: hey :)
[09:08] <dpm> morning kim0
[09:13] <dholbach> hey kim0
[09:23] <popey> dholbach: seen mail from Caspar Clemens Mierau?
[09:27] <dholbach> popey, yes
[09:27] <popey> opinion?
[09:27] <dholbach> he's still doing great work in the Berlin team - seems like he really just missed the mail because of something weird with his mail server
[09:28] <popey> ok, I'll re-add him
[09:29] <dholbach> sweet
[09:30] <dholbach> thanks
[09:44] <kim0> dpm: dholbach hey folks
[09:53] <daker> good morning all
[09:59] <daker> kim0, how was the elections ?
[10:11] <kim0> daker: the usual crap :)
[10:11] <dholbach> daker, AIUI 25% of people voted, Mubarak's party got more seats than they had before
[10:12] <kim0> daker: violence and cheating
[10:16] <daker> dholbach, i don't trust media ツ
[10:17] <daker> kim0, :s
[10:17] <daker> من سيء إلى أسوء
[10:17] <kim0> yeah ..
[10:17] <kim0> the only hope is for the b*** to die :)
[10:20] <daker> and wikileaks adds more oil to the fire
[10:22] <kim0> gah why isn't googlecl in lucid
[10:23]  * nigelb waits for kim0 to enter the magical world of packaging
[10:25] <kim0> yeah indeed
[10:27] <daker> kim0, did the IS removed the portal from the staging server ?
[10:29] <daker> kim0, there is only the apache default page
[10:29] <kim0> daker: no one really mentioned anything .. it's apache for me too
[10:31] <daker> \o/
[11:02] <daker> kim0, i am mading a good progress, the next portal is on the road
[11:03] <kim0> daker: woohoo :)
[11:03] <kim0> daker: rock on
[11:03] <kim0> daker: when it is in some demo'able state .. let me know man
[11:04] <daker> kim0, ok
[11:04] <daker> kim0, share the ami app with me
[11:05] <kim0> daker: lp:~kim0/+junk/cloudubuntu
[11:05] <daker> ok
[11:09] <daker> kim0, i don't think we will use any mirrorring app
[11:09] <daker> s/mirrorring/mirroring
[11:10] <kim0> daker: explain some more ?
[11:10] <daker> since every think we be centralized
[11:11] <daker> ok
[11:11] <daker> kim0, before we used a mirroring app that grab the content from the wiki
[11:11] <daker> specially the UEC book
[11:13] <daker> kim0, do you think we still need  a mirroring app ?
[11:14] <kim0> daker: Yeah I still think we do .. the idea being we keep the editable content in one place and view it from multiple
[11:14] <kim0> daker: for a quick demo .. you can not bother with that though
[11:15] <daker> ok
[11:30] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:35] <daker> kim0, do you think we need a wiki or a cms ?
[11:37] <kim0> daker: do we need to decide now ? I mean it depends on how the community will be able to interact with the site .. Can we have a basic demo first .. then see how we can take this forward
[11:37] <daker> sure
[11:38] <kim0> daker: thanks man :)
[11:38] <duanedesign> hello kim0
[11:38] <kim0> duanedesign: hey o/
[11:38] <kim0> duanedesign: how's it going
[11:38] <duanedesign> kim0: word on the street is you have a video
[11:38] <kim0> duanedesign: lol .. indeed
[11:39] <kim0> duanedesign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYJLIfVuSMY
[11:39] <duanedesign> kim0: I would love to help distribute it by putting it on the screencast team resources
[11:39] <duanedesign> kim0: :)
[11:39] <kim0> duanedesign: please do
[11:39] <kim0> duanedesign: You can get the orig by >> wget http://ubuntuone.com/p/RBH/ -O cloudcast1.mov
[11:40] <duanedesign> excellent
[11:41] <kim0> duanedesign: thanks :)
[11:41] <RawChid> I have some questions about the Leadership Code of Conduct
[11:41] <RawChid> Can I ask them here?
[11:45] <AlanBell> RawChid: sure
[11:46] <RawChid> Great, it's about Conflicts of Interest. I quote: "They realize that perceived conflicts of interest are as important as real conflicts of interest and are cognizant of perceptions; they understand that their actions are as tainted by perceived conflicts as by real ones."
[11:46] <RawChid> Can you explain to me the difference between perceived conflicts and real conflicts?
[11:47] <AlanBell> gosh that is a lot of long words in there!
[11:47] <AlanBell> let me think of an example
[11:48] <RawChid> Hehe, I've translated it, and I 'think' I know what it means. But I get a lot of questions about it, so I want to be sure :)
[11:52] <daker> kim0, interesting
[11:53] <nigelb> That is one interesting sentence!
[11:53] <kim0> huh :)
[11:53] <nigelb> err, I meant the one about conflict of interest . . .
[11:53] <daker> i meant the screencast
[11:54] <AlanBell> basically it means if other people think you have a conflict of interest then you should do something about it other than just deny that it is in fact a conflict of interest
[11:55] <kim0> daker: cool .. blogging it
[11:55] <nigelb> lol, now its more confusing :p
[11:55] <RawChid> AlanBell, thnx
[11:55] <daker> kim0, i don't have a blog but i'll share it
[11:55] <kim0> daker: If you're on FB .. www.facebook.com/ubuntucloud
[11:58] <daker> kim0, done!!
[11:58] <kim0> cool
[14:28] <jcastro> ugh
[14:36]  * popey tickles jcastro 
[14:46] <vish> why does no one tickle popey ! popey is always the tickler (does such a word exist?) ;p
[14:46] <popey> yes
[14:47] <vish> hehe, popey, The Tickler!  :D
[14:55] <kim0> :)
[15:00] <JFo> Popey, The Knight Ticklar
[15:46] <jcastro> hey dholbach
[15:46] <jcastro> do you have a recording of your ustream?
[15:47] <dholbach> jcastro, yes, it's on my page there
[15:47] <dholbach> hang on
[15:47] <jcastro> hey kim0
[15:47] <kim0> jcastro: hey
[15:47] <jcastro> do you have the recordings of your Q+A?
[15:47] <jcastro> ah, now that jono is here
[15:47] <dholbach> jcastro, http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11079901 - are you one of the "I want to see the dog" fanatics too? :-P
[15:47] <jcastro> I noticed that kim0 has a seperate cloud youtube account
[15:47] <jono> hey all
[15:47] <jcastro> why not have those all consolidated into the youtube developer channel?
[15:47] <kim0> jono: howdy
[15:47] <jcastro> it's not like we're exactly swamped in content
[15:48] <jono> jcastro, why would cloud users be interested in ubuntu development?
[15:48]  * kim0 nods
[15:48] <jcastro> well the developer channel is where we put like all our stuff, I am thinking audience size
[15:48] <dholbach> they should be! think of how many ubuntu developers we'd have! :)
[15:48] <jono> sure, but developer channel doesnt make sense as a channel name for everything
[15:48] <jono> maybe a general ubuntu channel sure, but not the dev channel
[15:49] <jcastro> sure, so how about the occasional cloud one in the developer channel as well? If it's related
[15:49] <kim0> Can we have like a master Ubuntu channel that aggregates them all
[15:49] <jcastro> kim0: yeah that's kind of been what the developer channel has been, other than the "developer channel" name
[15:50] <kim0> I don't mind throwing the video everywhere :)
[15:50] <jcastro> hmmm
[15:50] <jcastro> there has to be a slicker way to throw ustream archives into the developer channel
[15:54] <daker> kim0, checkout my version http://paste.ubuntu.com/538316/
[15:54] <jono> jcastro, if I subscribed to an ubuntu dev channel and started getting lot sof non dev stuff I would be pretty narked off
[15:54] <jono> :-)
[15:55] <jcastro> well, I think it's been more "stuff FROM the ubuntu developers"
[15:57] <jono> jcastro, not really
[15:58] <jono> it was originally set up for packaging tutorials
[15:58] <jcastro> true
[15:58] <kim0> jcastro: with that reasoning .. we should have a single FB page, a single twitter account ... etc ?!
[15:58] <jcastro> kim0: I was thinking of it more of like a "planet" for all the video feeds
[15:58] <jcastro> fine fine, don't tase me bros!
[15:59] <kim0> jcastro: I wouldn't mind a planet style one .. it just shouldn't have "developers" in its name
[15:59] <kim0> The Ubuntu channel sounds fine :)
[15:59] <jcastro> I would rather not create a new one.
[15:59] <jcastro> status quo then?
[15:59]  * jcastro wanders off before he has to make a new portal
[16:00] <kim0> hehe
[16:00] <jono> dpm, one sec, wrapping a convo
[16:02] <dpm> ok, no worries
[16:03] <kim0> convo sounds yummy
[16:04] <jono> haha
[16:04] <jono> dpm, ok logging onto skype now
[16:06] <jcastro> dholbach: I think you should make a graph of all the videos in all our channels
[16:06]  * jcastro plays with fire this morning
[16:08] <dholbach> jcastro, yeah? you think so? I think you should .. ... .... ....... :-P
[16:08] <kim0> hehehee
[16:11] <dholbach> brb :)
[16:37] <dholbach> alright my friends
[16:37] <dholbach> I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[16:37] <JFo> see you dholbach
[16:37] <JFo> :)
[16:37] <paultag> pleia2, posting those photos on that email thread to my blog :)
[16:37] <dholbach> see you JFo
[16:38] <JFo> have a great evening!
[16:39] <dholbach> you too
[17:02] <jcastro> oh thank god
[17:02] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/681500
[17:02] <jcastro> now I can unity fulltime!
[17:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 681500 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Quicklist default items + Keep/remove favorite (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[17:09] <jcastro> <---- lunching
[17:35] <czajkowski> aloha
[18:14] <duanedesign> off for lunch
[18:14] <jcastro> JFo: yo
[18:14] <JFo> jcastro, dude :)
[18:14] <jcastro> Just saying hi
[18:15] <jcastro> man, I cooked some mean rice and chili just now
[18:15] <JFo> hey buddy
[18:15] <JFo> oh man, that sounds good
[18:15]  * JFo plans chili
[18:15] <nisshh> jcastro, oh far out, your making my mouth water and im *really* hungry as it is! :)
[19:10] <jcastro> jono: good unity update
[19:10] <jcastro> you can now remove and add things to the launcher
[19:10] <jcastro> just need the quicklists!
[19:31] <jono> jcastro, nice!
[19:53] <huats> hello everyone
[19:53] <jcastro> hi huats
[19:53] <jcastro> long time no see!
[19:53] <huats> jcastro, hi my friend !
[19:53] <huats> indeed ...
[19:53] <huats> I am really busy lately
[19:53] <huats> (work, baby...)
[19:53] <huats> but it should be the last week with such work load :)
[19:54] <huats> jcastro, how are you ?
[19:54] <huats> (and the last week that I spend in a client building without internet access too...)
[20:01] <jcastro> good
[20:01] <jcastro> congrats on the child process!
[20:03] <huats> :)
[20:20] <jcastro> jono: when you have about 10 minutes to spare I'd like a quick skype
[20:21] <huats> jcastro, well the child is growing fast (already 10 months !!!) and I have to admit that I can't see the time passing by :)
[20:22] <jcastro> huats: if he takes after you that means he must be about 3 feet tall by now
[20:22] <huats> jcastro, not already 3 feet... but let's say that we need to wear him with 24 months old clothes :)
[20:26] <jono> jcastro, can't chat for a bit, can we talk in an hour or so?
[21:06] <jono> jcastro, quick call?
[21:06] <jono> jcastro, will call your cell
[21:13] <jcastro> jono: ok, so instead of the emailing part of the process
[21:13] <jcastro> here's what I think v2 should kind of look like
[21:13] <jcastro> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/arb.png
[21:14] <jcastro> clicking submit takes the data and then files the bug for the ARB
[21:16] <jono> jcastro, oh yeah we discussed this in the past, we just need someone to do the work :)
[21:17] <jcastro> right, because as I was reading the app process I was like "why is it asking me the URL for the PPA, launchpad knows all this already"
[21:17] <jcastro> etc.
[21:17] <jono> jcastro, totally, if there is a hacker to write this, then it would be awesome :-)
[21:17] <jono> and afaik this is happening with a dev portal
[21:17] <jono> which I believe ISD are working on
[21:17] <jono> I am not sure of the specifics though
[21:18] <jcastro> ah ok
[21:18] <jcastro> is there an arb-esque mailing list?
[21:18] <jcastro> I just need a place to file the idea
[21:18] <jono> jcastro, no, no list
[21:18] <jono> consider it filed :-)
[21:18] <jono> I will mention it to Rick
[21:18] <jono> like I say, it was already in the plan anyway
[21:19] <jcastro> ok cool, I just needed the mental validation
[21:19]  * jcastro whistles
[21:19] <jono> lol
[21:23] <jcastro> jono: any luck on wp access?
[21:23] <jono> jcastro, nothing yet
[21:23] <jono> let me ping again
[21:59] <kim0> jono: anyway to ping IS some more :)
[22:00] <jono> kim0, your ticket is being worked on
[22:00] <kim0> ah cool :)
[22:33] <akgraner> is there a special hashtag to use for Ubuntu translations?
[22:59] <nigelb> Morning all
[23:01] <cjohnston> jcastro: your mr. unity man, who runs unity.ubuntu.com
[23:03] <cjohnston> hmm.. would that be a good question for askubuntu.. lol
[23:38] <jcastro> cjohnston: me
[23:38] <jcastro> but I don't have the access yet
[23:38] <jcastro> to fix all the errors people are reporting
[23:38] <jcastro> soon though, hopefully tomorrowish
[23:39] <cjohnston> ok.. there are some bugs filed under the ubuntu-website project for it.. are you in charge of uds.u.c also?
[23:39] <jcastro> yes
[23:39] <jcastro> just assign them to me please
[23:40] <cjohnston> ok