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histoQuestion, Would it be wrong to send people a donation link after helping them?00:23
Picihisto: A link to donate to Ubuntu?00:28
histoTO me00:28
histoI didn't read anything against it in CoC00:29
histoJust wanted to check here first though00:29
Picihisto: I'm not sure its covered by the CoC, but its not something that we would want in our channels.00:29
histoPici: I'm assuming you mean wouldn't want00:30
Picihisto: er, yes.00:30
PiciI keep doing that.00:30
histoPici: Okay I won't then.00:30
Picihisto: Thank you.00:30
knomePici, no, you were right00:30
histo?00:30
Piciknome: oh, right. I was right.00:30
knomeabout the english ;)00:30
Picihisto: let me rephrase so its clear: Please don't do that in our channels ;)00:31
histoNo problem00:31
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PiciIs Rad- trolling?01:55
tonyyarussoDoubt it - trolls make a point eventually.01:56
PiciI guess I'm too cynical today.01:56
tonyyarussoAmaranth changed nicks!  Must be a troll.01:58
maco!gpgerror02:24
maco!gpgerr02:24
ubottuGetting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key> && gpg --export --armor <key> | sudo apt-key add - »02:24
rwwiirc, it's "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key>"02:25
macoim pulling it out of my bash aliases02:25
macoubottu: no, !gpgerr is <reply>  Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »02:25
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, maco said: ubottu: no, !gpgerr is <reply>  Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »02:25
macook now just need someone who can actually make that happen....02:25
rwwfor bonus points, check on manpages.ubuntu.com to make sure current versions all support it (I would, but I'm waist-deep in stuff right now)02:25
nhandlerubottu: !no gpgerr is <reply> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »02:27
ubottuI'll remember that nhandler02:27
macooh. mm apparently not in dapper or hardy....02:27
nhandlermaco: I don't have time to look right now, but we should probably mention add-apt-repository somewhere02:27
IdleOneadv02:28
IdleOne           Pass advanced options to gpg. With adv --recv-key you can download02:28
IdleOne           the public key. is supported in 10.1002:28
rwwIt's mentioned in !partner for that specific case. Could do with a general factoid.02:28
nhandlerI'm sort of here, poke me with factoid change requests if you want02:28
Flannelmeh.  Answering the same question over and over is getting on my nerves.03:45
rwwFlannel: I'm getting an error message about extras.ubuntu.com being unsigned...03:51
macocan we just make !extras be "do this:  <command here with the damn key id already included>"03:52
rwwcan we just thwap people until the problem gets fixed?03:52
macocan we say damn?03:53
rwwno idea, but I do!03:53
IdleOnedamn, maco said damn03:53
maconow where's the damn dam tour?03:55
FlannelSoftware Sources is achievable through Synaptic, Software Center, and Update manager in 10.10, right?03:55
IdleOneI think we might not want to push it with the damns03:55
IdleOneFlannel: yes, in update manager he has to click on Settings (bottom left of the window)03:55
FlannelIdleOne: but it is all three, right?03:56
rwwprobably named differently in each one, of course03:56
IdleOneyes03:56
rwwFlannel: yes03:56
Flannel(I've never used Software Center)03:56
IdleOneI don't use SC either but it's there in Settings or some such, lets look03:56
macosoftware sources is in KPackageKit too, if anyone cares03:57
IdleOnein Software Center you click Edit and then select Edit Sources.03:57
rwwEdit -> Software Sources in SC03:57
IdleOne^^03:57
IdleOnethat03:57
IdleOnethere is so many ways to get lost, Ubuntu makes it easy03:58
IdleOne:P03:58
rwwSettings -> Repositories in Synaptic. So yes, named differently in each.03:58
IdleOneor03:59
IdleOne!softsource03:59
IdleOne!softsources03:59
ubottuLooking for your Software Sources in Maverick/10.10? For a simple way to enable the menu item see http://tinyurl.com/24jxd6t - More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories03:59
FlannelDon't tell me, go help the guy in #u03:59
IdleOnein maverick they hid it for some reason03:59
IdleOneSo with that re-enabled you have 4 ways of getting to the sources04:01
IdleOnestill people can't find them04:02
IdleOneI am 0 for a few today04:04
rwwIdleOne: thanks, was about to set that ban myself.04:41
IdleOneI have had it with him.04:41
IdleOneway to many warnings04:41
rwwI told him last warning the last time around, so... yes.04:41
IdleOnebeing a troll in -ot is one thing but in #ubuntu after he has been warned more then enough times.04:42
IdleOnehe will ban evade so keep an eye open04:44
* IdleOne has a feeling04:45
Agent007I'm sueing ubuntu04:45
Agent007for admin abuse04:45
FlannelAgent007: Hi.04:45
Agent007stfu04:45
maco!appeals04:45
Agent007someone body assist me04:45
ubottuIf you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page.04:45
FlannelAgent007: If you'd like to appeal, yeah, what she said.04:45
IdleOneFlannel: I will leave this to you.04:45
Agent007i don't wish to talk to any of the admin who abused me in both ubuntu and offtopic04:45
Agent007I'll take it up with your boss04:46
FlannelAgent007: Alright, we can accomidate that.04:46
Agent007let me ignore you04:46
Agent007and idleone04:46
FlannelAgent007: Who would you feel comfortable speaking with?04:46
Agent007since i dont respect you04:46
rwwAgent007: I'd recommend having a read of the link ubottu just gave. It goes through our appeals policy, which does include a step for speaking to the council that overlooks Ubuntu's IRC presence.04:47
Agent007I'm contacting my state attorney04:48
Agent007i'm going to file a lawsuit04:48
Agent007I'm rich, i'll spend money04:48
rwwAgent007: Alrighty. I'd recommend you part the channel and consult a lawyer then, who will likely tell you to stop talking to us :)04:48
tonyyarussoFeel free, but you don't really need to tell us that a bunch of times.  Have a nice evening!04:48
Agent007goodbye ubuntu, I'm uninstalling04:51
rww@mark #ubuntu-ops Agent007 combative attitude and legal threats in response to bans04:52
ubottuThe operation succeeded.04:52
Flannelrww: If you do it in-channel (and want it to log that particular channel) you need not specify a channel04:53
rwwNice thing about being a newbie op, I fill my learn-something-new-every-day quota easily ;)04:54
Flannelrww: Don't pet a burning dog05:03
Agent001hahha07:01
jussiAgent001: is there something we can help you with?07:02
Agent001Nah07:03
rwwHeh. I wasn't aware there were people on ChanServ's autoban list in #ubuntu.07:07
Agent001heh07:08
Agent001good story bro07:08
jussiAgent001: if theres is nothing you need, then please take note of /topic :)07:09
Agent001thanks for your time07:10
jussi@mark agent001 abusive in PM07:13
ubottuThe operation succeeded.07:13
Agent001lmao07:13
jussiAgent001: Unless you are here to raise an issue, please depart.07:14
Agent001You got a problem?07:14
jussiAgent001: the topic asks you not to idle here.07:16
topyliAgent001: a piece of friendly advice: it's a very bad idea to abuse this channel, as it's a rather important instrument for resolving any issues you have07:16
topyligah07:16
jussitopyli: I hadnt remove him yet07:17
* topyli gets moar coffee07:17
IdleOnehe sent me a PM before joining here07:17
jussiHe said some pretty nasty stuff in pm07:17
* rww scribbles ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding in notebook07:18
IdleOnequestioned my sexual preference and apparently Mark and I are a couple07:19
rwwwhich one?07:19
IdleOneMark shuttleworth07:19
macoi can think of a lady who will be rather unhappy to learn that!07:20
topylisweet, he just keeps giving, i'm also getting my share07:20
macorww: see pm07:20
IdleOneshould we compile the PM's topyli ?07:20
IdleOnefor future IRCC reference07:21
jussinah, no need for that07:21
jussiI have enough in one pm to suffice. :P07:22
* topyli feels left out with his single line of abuse07:23
IdleOnejussi: ok.07:23
rwwtopyli: I didn't get any, but maco PMed me instead, so I guess it evens out ;P07:23
macohaha07:23
topylihehe07:24
jussistill going here07:24
macohow long will he keep going if you dont respond?07:24
topylijussi: ah, it's just a multitasking problem then i guess07:24
jussiheh07:24
IdleOneI don't respond to PM's like that, just gives them something to log and try and use later on07:25
jussiSomeone remind me to remove that ban in an hour or so - or just do it about then07:28
jussirww: ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding is an awesome forwarding channel - staff taught me that one07:29
* IdleOne remembers to forget to remind jussi about, wait, what was I trying to remember?07:30
jussilol07:30
Agent001Hi09:11
rwwhello09:11
Agent001unban me09:11
Agent001I need help09:12
Agent001I've already called up my psychiatrist and she told me to pick up mental pills tomorrow09:12
rwwCome back tomorrow when your medication's sorted out and have a talk with one of the operators that dealt with you originally. I don't feel comfortable removing their ban after your behavior tonight.09:14
Agent001lol09:16
Agent001I'm going to have a mental breakdown, I best sign off before I unleash the demons onto you09:18
macowtf @ switchgirl & love_robot in -ot09:30
maco(20min ago)09:30
rwwdeja vu much?09:30
ikoniarww: what time zone are you in ?10:02
popey@btlogin10:13
macoikonia: pacific usa10:18
macoutc-810:18
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* melissa recovers from the second corrupt vm this week.10:47
melissaand fails at nickserv...10:47
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ubottuActionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu (joonassjoman pointless swearing at the bot)10:59
* Jordan_U needs to get faster on the draw11:00
Tm_Tbilalakhtar: /kb, not !kb (;11:01
bilalakhtarTm_T: I know11:01
bilalakhtarmistake on my part11:01
bilalakhtarmaco raced ahead11:01
macotopyli: what is going on?11:31
topylimaco: hm? not much, i'm working :)11:36
macotopyli: i meant in -ot11:36
topylihard to say, looks like norwegian again11:37
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Dev^null appears to be abusive - 4)16:05
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Dev^null appears to be abusive - 4)16:27
ikoniahe's not being16:28
Piciljl is looking at it.16:28
IdleOnethe abuse detector is less then perfect sometimes16:41
IdleOnewhich I believe is why the machines will never completely exterminate us.16:42
IdleOnejust saying :)16:42
PiciIt may be failing due to a regex problem, this has happened before with other issues.16:42
IdleOneAll things considered, floodbots do a pretty good job16:43
Pici"...My navigating through type and tab keys is like watching a drunk man cross an icy street"16:52
Garyand as I said to the man, i'll only pay a max of £5016:53
IdleOneum, ok16:54
popeydo we really still tell people to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?16:59
charlie-tcaI have seen it a few times. And they are amazed when it fails, too.17:01
popeyIt's almost universally pointless these days17:05
PiciI never suggest it anymore myself.17:16
Myrttiohai17:26
PiciHi there!17:26
MyrttiI was just on #meego minding my own business when I saw an ident that reminded me of something17:27
Piciltns17:27
ikoniahey Myrtti hi there17:27
Myrttiand I'm happy I googled it before saying anything on the channel17:28
Myrttiso, um. yeah. has anyone heard of ASUS-tek/hynix/anand/kavita lately? I think he was there just a few moments ago17:29
ikoniasaw him a few days ago17:29
Piciugh.17:30
Myrttiikonia: was he any saner than a year ago?17:30
Myrttior two years ago?17:30
IdleOnesanity usually fades with time.17:31
IdleOnebut i don't think I know who you are talking about17:31
Myrttihis ip is still in India *phew*17:32
MyrttiIdleOne: a person who befriended me on Facebook (though I gave him only limited view), then told me he'll meet me once he comes to Finland, and then wanted to add me as a contact in Skype, and was offended when I said no17:33
ikoniaMyrtti: silent an quit17:33
Myrttiall this based on acquaintance at -ot17:33
Myrttiikonia: thought that might be the case17:33
IdleOneMyrtti: stalker type of creepiness. I understand.17:34
Myrttiwell I hope he's matured a bit since the last contact I've had with him, I'd rather not part one of the few remaining channels I've got left17:35
PiciMyrtti: So are you just stopping by, or ?17:36
Myrttidon't know yet17:37
MyrttiIRC is such a nice procrastination from cleaning the apartment17:37
* Gary waves at Myrtti o/17:40
Mamarokoh hay, Myrtti! Long time no see17:45
Mamaroknice to see you :)17:46
charlie-tcaHello, Myrtti17:47
* jussi looks up at the moon... yup, just like I thought... blue... :D17:59
jussihai Myrtti17:59
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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Dev^null appears to be abusive - 4)18:29
Piciignore that18:29
PiciDoes anyone here know about this: 13:35:47 <dajhorn> Veilinye: Maverick has a bad X11 stack;  it was accidentally shipped with a beta/debug nvidia driver.  If you install the x-swat update PPA, then performance may improve.18:36
Myrttinvidia drivers on maverick *ARE* crap18:40
Myrttidon't know more than that ;-)18:40
Myrttihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_akdHz_jc <-- from last week18:43
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charlie-tcaPici, nvidia with hardware drivers works good here18:43
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Dev^null appears to be abusive - 4)18:52
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Dev^null)18:52
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Gulfstreamjust wanna let you all know: I am sorry for being stupid in #ubuntu-offtopic yesterday19:37
Picihaw21:11
* Tm_T huggles Myrtti with <321:26
elkya Myrtti?!21:46
elkyPici, my kfloodbot is going to drop in a bit, i have to finish recovering the vm21:55
mneptokMyrtti: good to see you! i tried to add you on LinkedIn, and have sat on various park benches waiting for you. do you use GTalk?21:57
knomelol22:03
knomei have also waited for Myrtti all my life.22:04
tonyyarussoI had my stalking route all set up nicely, and then she up and switched countries.  Must have caught on.22:08
knome;]22:12
Agent001Hi23:12
ikoniahello23:14
Agent001I need to remedy my situation with the current operators about last night regarding my rude behavior23:18
ikoniaok, happy to listen23:18
Agent001I feel compel that I get this issue fixed because I am wrong for the comments I made targeted specific operators. And for that I'm sorry as I have issues with anger sometimes.23:20
ikoniawho was this you where doing it with, and what channel?23:21
Agent001I honestly do not remember23:21
ikoniayou don't know what channel this was in ?23:21
Agent001I may have offended more than one person, so the operator took immediate action23:21
ikoniawhat channel ?23:22
Agent001Ubuntu offtopic23:22
Agent001and Ubuntu23:22
ikoniawell, I don't see you being banned in those channels, so it can't have been that bad and I'm sure people welcome your apology23:23
Agent001I am banned23:23
rww_Agent001 is banned from #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, and #ubuntu-meeting.23:23
ikoniaI don't see a ban, and you where in #ubuntu-offtopic earlier as agent00723:23
rww_You may want to check under Agent007, if you're bantrackering.23:23
ikoniaoh really23:23
ikoniarww_: over to you23:23
ikoniaI don't know what happened so I'll tag you in23:24
rww_alrighty23:24
rww_Agent001: If I remove your #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic bans, will you stop being offtopic in #ubuntu, problematic in #ubuntu-offtopic, disrespectful to people in PM, and generally abide by our guidelines?23:25
rww_!guidelines23:25
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines23:25
rww_!coc23:25
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .23:25
Agent001I will commit to being a better person and follow irc guidelines23:26
rww_Agent001: If you break the IRC guidelines again and get banned, we'll be a lot less lenient. Okay?23:27
Agent001Understood23:27
rww_Alright. One second while I remove them.23:27
Agent001Thanks23:27
rww... let's try that again with the IRC client I know how to use.23:29
knomeoverrated23:29
knome;)23:29
rwwAgent001: Try joining #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu, please23:30
Agent001Thanks23:31
Agent001it worked23:31
rwwAlrighty. I don't have operator access in #ubuntu-meeting. Anyone around who does?23:31
ikonialets leave that for now23:31
rwwk23:32
ikoniasee how the others go23:32
Piciikonia: What needs to be done in -meeting?23:42
IdleOneunban Agent007 if you want to23:43

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