[00:23] <histo> Question, Would it be wrong to send people a donation link after helping them?
[00:28] <Pici> histo: A link to donate to Ubuntu?
[00:28] <histo> TO me
[00:29] <histo> I didn't read anything against it in CoC
[00:29] <histo> Just wanted to check here first though
[00:29] <Pici> histo: I'm not sure its covered by the CoC, but its not something that we would want in our channels.
[00:30] <histo> Pici: I'm assuming you mean wouldn't want
[00:30] <Pici> histo: er, yes.
[00:30] <Pici> I keep doing that.
[00:30] <histo> Pici: Okay I won't then.
[00:30] <Pici> histo: Thank you.
[00:30] <knome> Pici, no, you were right
[00:30] <histo> ?
[00:30] <Pici> knome: oh, right. I was right.
[00:30] <knome> about the english ;)
[00:31] <Pici> histo: let me rephrase so its clear: Please don't do that in our channels ;)
[00:31] <histo> No problem
[01:55] <Pici> Is Rad- trolling?
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Doubt it - trolls make a point eventually.
[01:56] <Pici> I guess I'm too cynical today.
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth changed nicks!  Must be a troll.
[02:24] <maco> !gpgerror
[02:24] <maco> !gpgerr
[02:25] <rww> iirc, it's "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key>"
[02:25] <maco> im pulling it out of my bash aliases
[02:25] <maco> ubottu: no, !gpgerr is <reply>  Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »
[02:25] <maco> ok now just need someone who can actually make that happen....
[02:25] <rww> for bonus points, check on manpages.ubuntu.com to make sure current versions all support it (I would, but I'm waist-deep in stuff right now)
[02:27] <nhandler> ubottu: !no gpgerr is <reply> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »
[02:27] <maco> oh. mm apparently not in dapper or hardy....
[02:27] <nhandler> maco: I don't have time to look right now, but we should probably mention add-apt-repository somewhere
[02:28] <IdleOne> adv
[02:28] <IdleOne>            Pass advanced options to gpg. With adv --recv-key you can download
[02:28] <IdleOne>            the public key. is supported in 10.10
[02:28] <rww> It's mentioned in !partner for that specific case. Could do with a general factoid.
[02:28] <nhandler> I'm sort of here, poke me with factoid change requests if you want
[03:45] <Flannel> meh.  Answering the same question over and over is getting on my nerves.
[03:51] <rww> Flannel: I'm getting an error message about extras.ubuntu.com being unsigned...
[03:52] <maco> can we just make !extras be "do this:  <command here with the damn key id already included>"
[03:52] <rww> can we just thwap people until the problem gets fixed?
[03:53] <maco> can we say damn?
[03:53] <rww> no idea, but I do!
[03:53] <IdleOne> damn, maco said damn
[03:55] <maco> now where's the damn dam tour?
[03:55] <Flannel> Software Sources is achievable through Synaptic, Software Center, and Update manager in 10.10, right?
[03:55] <IdleOne> I think we might not want to push it with the damns
[03:55] <IdleOne> Flannel: yes, in update manager he has to click on Settings (bottom left of the window)
[03:56] <Flannel> IdleOne: but it is all three, right?
[03:56] <rww> probably named differently in each one, of course
[03:56] <IdleOne> yes
[03:56] <rww> Flannel: yes
[03:56] <Flannel> (I've never used Software Center)
[03:56] <IdleOne> I don't use SC either but it's there in Settings or some such, lets look
[03:57] <maco> software sources is in KPackageKit too, if anyone cares
[03:57] <IdleOne> in Software Center you click Edit and then select Edit Sources.
[03:57] <rww> Edit -> Software Sources in SC
[03:57] <IdleOne> ^^
[03:57] <IdleOne> that
[03:58] <IdleOne> there is so many ways to get lost, Ubuntu makes it easy
[03:58] <IdleOne> :P
[03:58] <rww> Settings -> Repositories in Synaptic. So yes, named differently in each.
[03:59] <IdleOne> or
[03:59] <IdleOne> !softsource
[03:59] <IdleOne> !softsources
[03:59] <Flannel> Don't tell me, go help the guy in #u
[03:59] <IdleOne> in maverick they hid it for some reason
[04:01] <IdleOne> So with that re-enabled you have 4 ways of getting to the sources
[04:02] <IdleOne> still people can't find them
[04:04] <IdleOne> I am 0 for a few today
[04:41] <rww> IdleOne: thanks, was about to set that ban myself.
[04:41] <IdleOne> I have had it with him.
[04:41] <IdleOne> way to many warnings
[04:41] <rww> I told him last warning the last time around, so... yes.
[04:42] <IdleOne> being a troll in -ot is one thing but in #ubuntu after he has been warned more then enough times.
[04:44] <IdleOne> he will ban evade so keep an eye open
[04:45]  * IdleOne has a feeling
[04:45] <Agent007> I'm sueing ubuntu
[04:45] <Agent007> for admin abuse
[04:45] <Flannel> Agent007: Hi.
[04:45] <Agent007> stfu
[04:45] <maco> !appeals
[04:45] <Agent007> someone body assist me
[04:45] <Flannel> Agent007: If you'd like to appeal, yeah, what she said.
[04:45] <IdleOne> Flannel: I will leave this to you.
[04:45] <Agent007> i don't wish to talk to any of the admin who abused me in both ubuntu and offtopic
[04:46] <Agent007> I'll take it up with your boss
[04:46] <Flannel> Agent007: Alright, we can accomidate that.
[04:46] <Agent007> let me ignore you
[04:46] <Agent007> and idleone
[04:46] <Flannel> Agent007: Who would you feel comfortable speaking with?
[04:46] <Agent007> since i dont respect you
[04:47] <rww> Agent007: I'd recommend having a read of the link ubottu just gave. It goes through our appeals policy, which does include a step for speaking to the council that overlooks Ubuntu's IRC presence.
[04:48] <Agent007> I'm contacting my state attorney
[04:48] <Agent007> i'm going to file a lawsuit
[04:48] <Agent007> I'm rich, i'll spend money
[04:48] <rww> Agent007: Alrighty. I'd recommend you part the channel and consult a lawyer then, who will likely tell you to stop talking to us :)
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> Feel free, but you don't really need to tell us that a bunch of times.  Have a nice evening!
[04:51] <Agent007> goodbye ubuntu, I'm uninstalling
[04:52] <rww> @mark #ubuntu-ops Agent007 combative attitude and legal threats in response to bans
[04:53] <Flannel> rww: If you do it in-channel (and want it to log that particular channel) you need not specify a channel
[04:54] <rww> Nice thing about being a newbie op, I fill my learn-something-new-every-day quota easily ;)
[05:03] <Flannel> rww: Don't pet a burning dog
[07:01] <Agent001> hahha
[07:02] <jussi> Agent001: is there something we can help you with?
[07:03] <Agent001> Nah
[07:07] <rww> Heh. I wasn't aware there were people on ChanServ's autoban list in #ubuntu.
[07:08] <Agent001> heh
[07:08] <Agent001> good story bro
[07:09] <jussi> Agent001: if theres is nothing you need, then please take note of /topic :)
[07:10] <Agent001> thanks for your time
[07:13] <jussi> @mark agent001 abusive in PM
[07:13] <Agent001> lmao
[07:14] <jussi> Agent001: Unless you are here to raise an issue, please depart.
[07:14] <Agent001> You got a problem?
[07:16] <jussi> Agent001: the topic asks you not to idle here.
[07:16] <topyli> Agent001: a piece of friendly advice: it's a very bad idea to abuse this channel, as it's a rather important instrument for resolving any issues you have
[07:16] <topyli> gah
[07:17] <jussi> topyli: I hadnt remove him yet
[07:17]  * topyli gets moar coffee
[07:17] <IdleOne> he sent me a PM before joining here
[07:17] <jussi> He said some pretty nasty stuff in pm
[07:18]  * rww scribbles ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding in notebook
[07:19] <IdleOne> questioned my sexual preference and apparently Mark and I are a couple
[07:19] <rww> which one?
[07:19] <IdleOne> Mark shuttleworth
[07:20] <maco> i can think of a lady who will be rather unhappy to learn that!
[07:20] <topyli> sweet, he just keeps giving, i'm also getting my share
[07:20] <maco> rww: see pm
[07:20] <IdleOne> should we compile the PM's topyli ?
[07:21] <IdleOne> for future IRCC reference
[07:21] <jussi> nah, no need for that
[07:22] <jussi> I have enough in one pm to suffice. :P
[07:23]  * topyli feels left out with his single line of abuse
[07:23] <IdleOne> jussi: ok.
[07:23] <rww> topyli: I didn't get any, but maco PMed me instead, so I guess it evens out ;P
[07:23] <maco> haha
[07:24] <topyli> hehe
[07:24] <jussi> still going here
[07:24] <maco> how long will he keep going if you dont respond?
[07:24] <topyli> jussi: ah, it's just a multitasking problem then i guess
[07:24] <jussi> heh
[07:25] <IdleOne> I don't respond to PM's like that, just gives them something to log and try and use later on
[07:28] <jussi> Someone remind me to remove that ban in an hour or so - or just do it about then
[07:29] <jussi> rww: ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding is an awesome forwarding channel - staff taught me that one
[07:30]  * IdleOne remembers to forget to remind jussi about, wait, what was I trying to remember?
[07:30] <jussi> lol
[09:11] <Agent001> Hi
[09:11] <rww> hello
[09:11] <Agent001> unban me
[09:12] <Agent001> I need help
[09:12] <Agent001> I've already called up my psychiatrist and she told me to pick up mental pills tomorrow
[09:14] <rww> Come back tomorrow when your medication's sorted out and have a talk with one of the operators that dealt with you originally. I don't feel comfortable removing their ban after your behavior tonight.
[09:16] <Agent001> lol
[09:18] <Agent001> I'm going to have a mental breakdown, I best sign off before I unleash the demons onto you
[09:30] <maco> wtf @ switchgirl & love_robot in -ot
[09:30] <maco> (20min ago)
[09:30] <rww> deja vu much?
[10:02] <ikonia> rww: what time zone are you in ?
[10:13] <popey> @btlogin
[10:18] <maco> ikonia: pacific usa
[10:18] <maco> utc-8
[10:47]  * melissa recovers from the second corrupt vm this week.
[10:47] <melissa> and fails at nickserv...
[11:00]  * Jordan_U needs to get faster on the draw
[11:01] <Tm_T> bilalakhtar: /kb, not !kb (;
[11:01] <bilalakhtar> Tm_T: I know
[11:01] <bilalakhtar> mistake on my part
[11:01] <bilalakhtar> maco raced ahead
[11:31] <maco> topyli: what is going on?
[11:36] <topyli> maco: hm? not much, i'm working :)
[11:36] <maco> topyli: i meant in -ot
[11:37] <topyli> hard to say, looks like norwegian again
[16:28] <ikonia> he's not being
[16:28] <Pici> ljl is looking at it.
[16:41] <IdleOne> the abuse detector is less then perfect sometimes
[16:42] <IdleOne> which I believe is why the machines will never completely exterminate us.
[16:42] <IdleOne> just saying :)
[16:42] <Pici> It may be failing due to a regex problem, this has happened before with other issues.
[16:43] <IdleOne> All things considered, floodbots do a pretty good job
[16:52] <Pici> "...My navigating through type and tab keys is like watching a drunk man cross an icy street"
[16:53] <Gary> and as I said to the man, i'll only pay a max of £50
[16:54] <IdleOne> um, ok
[16:59] <popey> do we really still tell people to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[17:01] <charlie-tca> I have seen it a few times. And they are amazed when it fails, too.
[17:05] <popey> It's almost universally pointless these days
[17:16] <Pici> I never suggest it anymore myself.
[17:26] <Myrtti> ohai
[17:26] <Pici> Hi there!
[17:27] <Myrtti> I was just on #meego minding my own business when I saw an ident that reminded me of something
[17:27] <Pici> ltns
[17:27] <ikonia> hey Myrtti hi there
[17:28] <Myrtti> and I'm happy I googled it before saying anything on the channel
[17:29] <Myrtti> so, um. yeah. has anyone heard of ASUS-tek/hynix/anand/kavita lately? I think he was there just a few moments ago
[17:29] <ikonia> saw him a few days ago
[17:30] <Pici> ugh.
[17:30] <Myrtti> ikonia: was he any saner than a year ago?
[17:30] <Myrtti> or two years ago?
[17:31] <IdleOne> sanity usually fades with time.
[17:31] <IdleOne> but i don't think I know who you are talking about
[17:32] <Myrtti> his ip is still in India *phew*
[17:33] <Myrtti> IdleOne: a person who befriended me on Facebook (though I gave him only limited view), then told me he'll meet me once he comes to Finland, and then wanted to add me as a contact in Skype, and was offended when I said no
[17:33] <ikonia> Myrtti: silent an quit
[17:33] <Myrtti> all this based on acquaintance at -ot
[17:33] <Myrtti> ikonia: thought that might be the case
[17:34] <IdleOne> Myrtti: stalker type of creepiness. I understand.
[17:35] <Myrtti> well I hope he's matured a bit since the last contact I've had with him, I'd rather not part one of the few remaining channels I've got left
[17:36] <Pici> Myrtti: So are you just stopping by, or ?
[17:37] <Myrtti> don't know yet
[17:37] <Myrtti> IRC is such a nice procrastination from cleaning the apartment
[17:40]  * Gary waves at Myrtti o/
[17:45] <Mamarok> oh hay, Myrtti! Long time no see
[17:46] <Mamarok> nice to see you :)
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Hello, Myrtti
[17:59]  * jussi looks up at the moon... yup, just like I thought... blue... :D
[17:59] <jussi> hai Myrtti
[18:29] <Pici> ignore that
[18:36] <Pici> Does anyone here know about this: 13:35:47 <dajhorn> Veilinye: Maverick has a bad X11 stack;  it was accidentally shipped with a beta/debug nvidia driver.  If you install the x-swat update PPA, then performance may improve.
[18:40] <Myrtti> nvidia drivers on maverick *ARE* crap
[18:40] <Myrtti> don't know more than that ;-)
[18:43] <Myrtti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_akdHz_jc <-- from last week
[18:43] <charlie-tca> Pici, nvidia with hardware drivers works good here
[19:37] <Gulfstream> just wanna let you all know: I am sorry for being stupid in #ubuntu-offtopic yesterday
[21:11] <Pici> haw
[21:26]  * Tm_T huggles Myrtti with <3
[21:46] <elky> a Myrtti?!
[21:55] <elky> Pici, my kfloodbot is going to drop in a bit, i have to finish recovering the vm
[21:57] <mneptok> Myrtti: good to see you! i tried to add you on LinkedIn, and have sat on various park benches waiting for you. do you use GTalk?
[22:03] <knome> lol
[22:04] <knome> i have also waited for Myrtti all my life.
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> I had my stalking route all set up nicely, and then she up and switched countries.  Must have caught on.
[22:12] <knome> ;]
[23:12] <Agent001> Hi
[23:14] <ikonia> hello
[23:18] <Agent001> I need to remedy my situation with the current operators about last night regarding my rude behavior
[23:18] <ikonia> ok, happy to listen
[23:20] <Agent001> I feel compel that I get this issue fixed because I am wrong for the comments I made targeted specific operators. And for that I'm sorry as I have issues with anger sometimes.
[23:21] <ikonia> who was this you where doing it with, and what channel?
[23:21] <Agent001> I honestly do not remember
[23:21] <ikonia> you don't know what channel this was in ?
[23:21] <Agent001> I may have offended more than one person, so the operator took immediate action
[23:22] <ikonia> what channel ?
[23:22] <Agent001> Ubuntu offtopic
[23:22] <Agent001> and Ubuntu
[23:23] <ikonia> well, I don't see you being banned in those channels, so it can't have been that bad and I'm sure people welcome your apology
[23:23] <Agent001> I am banned
[23:23] <rww_> Agent001 is banned from #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, and #ubuntu-meeting.
[23:23] <ikonia> I don't see a ban, and you where in #ubuntu-offtopic earlier as agent007
[23:23] <rww_> You may want to check under Agent007, if you're bantrackering.
[23:23] <ikonia> oh really
[23:23] <ikonia> rww_: over to you
[23:24] <ikonia> I don't know what happened so I'll tag you in
[23:24] <rww_> alrighty
[23:25] <rww_> Agent001: If I remove your #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic bans, will you stop being offtopic in #ubuntu, problematic in #ubuntu-offtopic, disrespectful to people in PM, and generally abide by our guidelines?
[23:25] <rww_> !guidelines
[23:25] <rww_> !coc
[23:26] <Agent001> I will commit to being a better person and follow irc guidelines
[23:27] <rww_> Agent001: If you break the IRC guidelines again and get banned, we'll be a lot less lenient. Okay?
[23:27] <Agent001> Understood
[23:27] <rww_> Alright. One second while I remove them.
[23:27] <Agent001> Thanks
[23:29] <rww> ... let's try that again with the IRC client I know how to use.
[23:29] <knome> overrated
[23:29] <knome> ;)
[23:30] <rww> Agent001: Try joining #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu, please
[23:31] <Agent001> Thanks
[23:31] <Agent001> it worked
[23:31] <rww> Alrighty. I don't have operator access in #ubuntu-meeting. Anyone around who does?
[23:31] <ikonia> lets leave that for now
[23:32] <rww> k
[23:32] <ikonia> see how the others go
[23:42] <Pici> ikonia: What needs to be done in -meeting?
[23:43] <IdleOne> unban Agent007 if you want to