[07:13] <bryceh> now the graphs link to the package with the bug(s) - http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-natty-workqueue.svg
[08:39] <apw> bryceh, Sarvatt, oh my you are so right, i have too many machines in tooo many combinations ... i really thought i'd upgraded it to maverick alreday
[15:18] <Sarvatt> apw: yeah would be good to drop UBUNTU: SAUCE: i915 -- disable powersave by default, thats something that was broken quite some time ago and most likely fixed, can always reenable it again closer to release and i'll keep an eye out for bugs about it
[15:19] <Sarvatt> been a lot of changes to it lately, fbc disabled completely on ironlake and such
[15:21] <Sarvatt> that was a 2.6.32/33 problem originally, I didn't even know we carried it to maverick
[15:21]  * Sarvatt feels stupid for asking people to test disabling it on maverick now
[15:25] <apw> Sarvatt, will do thanks
[15:25] <apw> it got reenabled just before release cause we had the jitter, black, suspend/resume, working again ... symptoms back
[15:26] <Sarvatt> oh fun, i'll try to find more bugs to upstream about it then
[15:26] <apw> Sarvatt, but i will drop it for the first upload after alpha-1 and we can see what all goes wrong :)
[15:31] <Sarvatt> they screw with the powersave related stuff 2-3 pull requests per kernel version it seems like, personally I'd like to just disable FBC completely on all intel because its never right :) just recently they found out it was casing the system to use 1 watt *more* power on an idle arrandale when its supposed to be a power saving feature :)
[15:32] <Sarvatt> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=16c59ef33b389217c29122235e475557bc1412a1
[15:47] <Sarvatt> bryceh: btw in case you didn't see - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/632594
[15:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 632594 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Natty) (and 11 other projects) "metacity causing xvfb to not work on the buildds (affects: 3) (heat: 22)" [High,Invalid]
[16:46] <Sarvatt> BlackZ: apt moved back to uncompressed indicies \o/
[16:47] <BlackZ> Sarvatt: so bug #677961 should be closed
[16:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 677961 in ppa-purge (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Fails to deal with compressed indexes (affects: 9) (heat: 46)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677961
[16:49] <Sarvatt> i set it to wishlist at least
[16:50] <BlackZ> Sarvatt: either way it's fine
[16:50] <BlackZ> s/it's/are
[16:52] <BlackZ> Sarvatt: if it's a feature worth to be implemented why not :)
[17:07] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hi, would you consider porting the wayland specific packaging changes (cairo, mesa ,xkbcommon) to the edgers ppa?
[17:11] <Sarvatt> guess it's time to redo the mesa packaging yet again then, was hoping I could wait until we pulled 7.10 into natty
[17:12] <Sarvatt> something tells me libdricore is going to be a nightmare tracking git mesa
[17:17] <ricotz> it is just a tought, but it could be a start for some testing of wayland git, and keeping mesa up2date in both ppas doesnt sound right
[17:17] <Sarvatt> ricotz: will fix up mesa when I get time this week, can drop a ton of the changes like installing vmwgfx since we dont even ship the kernel side. xkbcommon and cairo just need to be copied
[17:17] <ricotz> nice, thanks!
 pitti: MGA bug is fixed already
[18:13] <bryceh> Sarvatt, elaborate?  Can we close the bug?
[18:13] <Sarvatt> yeah they took the fix in debian and we synced it, i already closed the bug
[18:14] <Sarvatt> https://launchpad.net/bugs/292214
[18:14] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 292214 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "natty fails ec2 boot on i386 or t1.micro (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Critical,Confirmed]
[18:14] <Sarvatt> err
[18:14] <Sarvatt> ok ubot4` is just screwed up
[18:15] <Sarvatt> link goes to the mga bug
[18:25] <Sarvatt> tseliot: looks like the ioctl patch is needed for nvidia-96 in natty? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/681208
[18:25] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 681208 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-96 (Ubuntu) "package nvidia-96 96.43.18-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: nvidia-96 kernel module failed to build (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[18:26] <tseliot> Sarvatt: oh, I guess I forgot to add it? Let me check
[18:27]  * Sarvatt tries to figure out the correct lp branch for plymouth
[18:29] <tseliot> Sarvatt: I did enable the patch, however the packages are still in maverick-proposed and haven't been copied to natty  yet. I'll ask pitti do it tomorrow
[18:30] <Sarvatt> -      ply_text_display_write (view->display, "Ubuntu 10.10");
[18:30] <Sarvatt> +      ply_text_display_write (view->display, "Ubuntu 11.04");
[18:30] <Sarvatt> ah okie
[18:32] <tseliot> :)
[18:33] <Sarvatt> hmm nvidia 260.19.26 betas released but looks like they are buggy as heck
[18:34] <Sarvatt> no changelog, nvidia-settings doesn't compile, nasty kernel oops for one guy
[18:34] <tseliot> yes, I've just read that
[18:34] <tseliot> there's no hurry, I guess ;)
[18:35] <Sarvatt> yeah will put it in the PPA tomorrow, hopefully there's a changelog by then
[18:44] <bryceh> tseliot, ok so sounds like 681208 is fix committed, just waiting on package copying
[18:44] <tseliot> bryceh: yep
[18:45] <tseliot> hopefully I'll close that bug report tomorrow
[18:46] <bryceh> ok, I've set it to fix committed for now
[18:46] <tseliot> thanks
[18:46] <bryceh> tseliot, bug #682986 looks to me like a window manager bug.  I'm going to move it to compiz unless you think it really is an -nvidia issue?
[18:46] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 682986 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "borders and panels disappears whenever appearance is changed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682986
[18:47] <Sarvatt> hate how the most useful log for that specific bug can't be included automatically (.xsession-errors)
[18:48] <tseliot> bryceh: it sounds more like some mess in his compiz configuration
[18:48] <Sarvatt> yeah thats compiz
[18:48] <Sarvatt> i get the same, gtk-window-decorator segfaulting and respawning constantly taking out decorations
[18:50] <Sarvatt> whoa, nm-applet is not happy now in natty, ~/.xsession-errors is huge
[18:51] <bryceh> http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-natty-workqueue.svg
[18:51] <bryceh> ^ graph is starting to get interesting.  :-)
[18:51] <bryceh> and I made it clickable now :-)
[18:54] <bryceh> tseliot, your advice on bug #476866 would be useful.  There's a workaround identified using xinput properties, but I wonder if it is ok to incorporate that into -synaptics ?
[18:54] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 476866 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "two-finger scrolling does not work on Dell Studio 15 (1555) via gui config (affects: 17) (heat: 94)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476866
[18:54] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/668270 is fixed in x-x-v-intel 2.13.901 thats merged in git, just needs a changelog update for release
[18:54] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 668270 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i965gme] GPU lockup c472ca4a (IPEHR: 0x01820000) (affects: 1) (heat: 116)" [High,Incomplete]
[18:55] <bryceh> Sarvatt, thanks
[19:00] <tseliot> bryceh: getting two fingers emulation right for each model is not easy. I don't think we enable it by default on any system. If we are sure that it doesn't break anything on that specific dmi vendor and product name we can safely add a quirk
[19:02] <bryceh> heh, there's 666 bugs open against -intel at the moment
[19:02] <jcristau> are you saying -intel is teh devil?
[19:03] <tseliot> bryceh: that would require editing the udev rule (66-xorg-synaptics.rules) and adding a section in 51-synaptics-quirks.conf
[19:03] <tseliot> :D
[19:03] <bryceh> jcristau, only at the moment ;-)
[19:03] <bryceh> tseliot, thanks
[19:04] <bryceh> jcristau, certainly it's A beast
[19:26] <cnd> bryceh, I saw an update from RAOF on the blueprint for picking an xserver version for natty
[19:26] <cnd> any news?
[19:59] <bryceh> cnd, no news beyond what we already talked about, but it is sounding likely
[19:59] <cnd> bryceh, I missed what was talked about
[19:59] <cnd> could you summarize?
 bryceh, RAOF: with the X server merge window about to close, do you have any thoughts on 1.9 or 1.10 for natty?
 or is it still too soon to tell
 Nothing likely to cause the atmosphere to combust seems to have landed; I'm leaning 1.10
 I'm okay with doing 1.10
[20:00] <cnd> ok
[20:00] <cnd> I must have missed that in my logs
[20:00] <cnd> thanks
[20:02] <bryceh> it'll probably remain a tentative yes for a while yet
[20:03] <bryceh> cnd, ah, there's an email on ubuntu-x@
[20:03] <cnd> bryceh, is there a ppa somewhere with 1.10 for testing?
[20:04] <bryceh> cnd, you could look in xorg-edgers
[20:04] <bryceh> hasn't been a rc yet so would be just the git snapshot of trunk
[20:04] <cnd> bryceh, that seems to be just 1.9 stable
[20:04] <cnd> I've been using xorg-edgers :)
[20:06] <bryceh> ok, yeah looks like it hasn't been switched over yet
[22:13] <kyleg> can someone point me in the right direction of where to start on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/678100
[22:13] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 678100 in xf86-input-wacom (Ubuntu) "Fujitsu T4310 touchscreen not working (affects: 2) (heat: 443)" [Undecided,New]
[22:14] <kyleg> I'm the one who reported it but I don't have a clue where to even begin
[22:14] <kyleg> any direction or ideas?
[23:52] <bryceh> RAOF_, bug #682327 just came in about mesa 7.9.  This one also smells more like compiz than mesa but they passed it to us already.
[23:52] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 682327 in mesa (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Compiz crashes when hitting Alt-Tab - Mesa 7.9 implementation error: bad format in _mesa_format_to_type_and_comps (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682327
[23:53] <RAOF_> bryceh: I've been looking into that; it's radeon specific.
[23:53] <RAOF_> Well, I've been looking into something similar except it doesn't print.
[23:53] <RAOF_> Yup; r600
[23:54] <RAOF_> There are two ways to work around it; turn off mipmapping in the switcher options, or enable r600g
[23:55] <RAOF_> At least, for my bug there is :)