[16:16] <domjohnson> Hi
[16:17] <holstein> domjohnson: yo :)
[16:17] <domjohnson> Will Ubuntu Studio 11.04 use Gnome or Unity?
[16:17] <holstein> gnome
[16:17] <holstein> probably stay at gnome
[16:17] <holstein> gnome is not going anywhere
[16:17] <holstein> and i bet there will be an official gubuntu or whatever
[16:18] <domjohnson> Yeah
[16:18] <domjohnson> Hope so
[16:18] <domjohnson> And will it retain Xorg?
[16:18] <holstein> theres no immediate plan to bail on gnome
[16:18] <holstein> domjohnson: not sure about wayland
[16:19] <domjohnson> Whats wayland?
[16:19] <holstein> thats the x change right?
[16:20] <domjohnson> I thought they were dropping it completely...
[16:24] <domjohnson> Ah - Wayland is what they might replace it with
[16:24] <domjohnson> I think there'll be problems with the linuxwacom project if Xorg is dropped
[16:25] <domjohnson> I think many people will drop Ubuntu in favour of a Gnomebuntu or similar, particularly multimedia enthusiasts/professionals (although, I don't think there'll be many multimedia professionals using Linux...)
[16:25] <holstein> domjohnson: im sure there will be some adjustments either way
[16:25] <holstein> growing pains ;)
[16:25] <domjohnson> yeah
[17:03] <domjohnson> What version of linuxwacom is Ubuntu Studio 10.10 using/whats the latest version in the repos?
[17:03] <holstein> im not sure
[17:03] <holstein> im still running 10.04
[17:03] <domjohnson> ok
[17:04] <domjohnson> What version is it on 10.04?
[17:04] <domjohnson> (And, on another subject, if anyone is using 10.10, is JACK working?)
[17:05] <holstein> sure
[17:05] <holstein> [lsd] over in #opensourcemusicians is using it
[17:05] <domjohnson> ok
[17:06] <domjohnson> x64?
[17:06] <holstein> and i have helped get it running on a couple boxes here
[17:06] <domjohnson> Actually - probably better asking him
[17:06] <holstein> domjohnson: should
[17:06] <holstein> pretty sure ive only talked about 32but
[17:06] <holstein> bit*
[17:06] <holstein> 64bit should be fine though
[17:06] <domjohnson> ok
[17:06] <domjohnson> Ubuntu 10.10 isn't :(
[17:07] <domjohnson> Pain the rear end, because Audacity has no automation...
[17:07] <domjohnson> So when you try and edit live stuff thats 2 hours long...
[17:07] <holstein> JACK in 64bit ubuntu 10.10 ?
[17:07] <domjohnson> anyway :)
[17:07] <domjohnson> Yeah
[17:07] <domjohnson> Not working :(
[17:07] <holstein> i didnt realize audacity had automation
[17:07] <holstein> you mean ardour?
[17:07] <domjohnson> It doesn't...
[17:08] <domjohnson> Been having to use Audacity
[17:08] <domjohnson> without it :(
[17:08] <holstein> OIC
[17:08] <holstein> what is the issue?
[17:08] <holstein> does jack run as root?
[17:08] <domjohnson> (I should really stop putting single sentences on multiple lines)
[17:08] <domjohnson> Haven't tried to run it as root
[17:08] <holstein> i would try that
[17:08] <holstein> sudo qjackctl
[17:08] <domjohnson> But it just says "Sorry, Couldn't start JACK"
[17:08] <domjohnson> Ok - cheers
[17:08] <holstein> make sure your in the audio group
[17:08] <domjohnson> Will try that when I get back home (at my Dad's atm)
[17:09] <domjohnson> Ah - that might also be it
[17:09] <holstein> sudo adduser domjohnson audio
[17:09] <holstein> domjohnson: what sound device?
[17:09] <holstein> internal card?
[17:09] <domjohnson> Yes
[17:09] <holstein> yeah
[17:09] <holstein> id try that
[17:09] <holstein> AND
[17:09] <domjohnson> Although I have 2 cards in, and use the other for MIDI
[17:09] <holstein> relax the jack settings
[17:09] <holstein> something like 512/3
[17:09] <domjohnson> So, actually, I think I have the non-mobo card (i.e dedicated card) set to input.
[17:10] <domjohnson> ok
[17:10] <holstein> maybe uncheck the 'realtime' box
[17:10] <domjohnson> Thanks
[17:10] <domjohnson> :)
[17:10] <domjohnson> Might be the group thing - volume control doesn't work either
[17:10] <domjohnson> Except in applications themselves - system wide doesn't work
[17:11] <holstein> alsamixer ?
[17:11] <holstein> or the one in the panel?
[17:12] <holstein> is this the same as in 10.04?
[17:12] <holstein> same behavior?
[17:15] <domjohnson> The one in the panel
[17:15] <domjohnson> 10.04 was fine
[17:15] <holstein> do you need something from 10.10?
[17:16] <domjohnson> huh?
[17:16] <holstein> why are you running 10.10?
[17:16] <holstein> you might want to search your sound card
[17:16] <domjohnson> Because its the newest version...other than that, don't think I have anything which is 10.10 only
[17:17] <holstein> maybe there is a backport for it or something
[17:17] <holstein> could be the newer kernel
[17:17] <domjohnson> Sound card has linux support from the manufacturer
[17:17] <holstein> could be alsa
[17:17] <domjohnson> Oh - didn't have the soundcard in 10.10
[17:17] <holstein> OK
[17:17] <holstein> SO
[17:17] <holstein> you had 10.04 installed
[17:17] <holstein> and the mixer app worked fine?
[17:17] <holstein> with the card in question?
[17:17] <domjohnson> yes
[17:17] <holstein> OK
[17:18] <holstein> and now in 10.10
[17:18] <holstein> it does not?
[17:18] <domjohnson> No - with built-in card
[17:18] <holstein> OK
[17:18] <domjohnson> And it doesn't now
[17:18] <holstein> so you downloaded a .deb from the manufacturer for it?
[17:18] <holstein> before?
[17:19] <holstein> i was just thinking why not just run 10.04
[17:19] <holstein> if everything is/was working properly
[17:20] <holstein> i plan on staying with 10.04 on my production box until 12.04
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