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charlie-tcamicahg, want to give me an endorsement? https://wiki.uibuntu.com/CharlieKravetz/XubuntuProjectLeadNomination03:33
* micahg seems to be having an issue w/the wiki ATM03:35
micahgcharlie-tca: do I still need to send a mail to the CC?03:35
charlie-tcayup03:35
charlie-tcawhat? I got ahead of you?03:36
micahgok03:36
* micahg is just running a little behind03:38
charlie-tcaheh, alpha1 is out thursday this week03:41
micahgyep03:43
charlie-tcawhich reminds me, I gotta get a message out to vinnl for the news bulletin03:45
charlie-tcaGood morning13:06
charlie-tcatesting is now started for Alpha1. Xubuntu desktop images are ready. 16:14
charlie-tcaUbuntu images can not be done using VBox now since 3d is not working in it and Unity/compiz requires it.16:14
mhall119yeah, that's biting me16:15
charlie-tcaqimo?16:17
mhall119no, just wanted to play with unity16:17
mhall119and also to get compiz working on my VM at work16:17
charlie-tcaoh, yeah. I bought an ATI card for it16:17
mhall119I'll be starting work on Qimo soon16:17
mhall119I need to learn how to build an ISO from seeds16:17
charlie-tcastill can't use VBox, but at least I get a working desktop with Unity16:17
mhall119I need to try it on my netbook, see if it's fast enough16:18
mhall119pre-compiz unity wasn't16:18
charlie-tcaIt has improved some with compiz16:18
mhall119I'm going to make a new bottom panel for Qimo, using Python16:18
charlie-tcaNeat!16:19
mhall119found an existing Python dock I can use for reference, and I've already got the XDG menu stuff figured out16:19
charlie-tcaOf course, now in Ubuntu w/unity, you can't really get most of the things to work. Basically, you can install it and run what's on the dock16:19
mhall119that'll remove 50% of my desktop customization16:19
charlie-tcaI don't know if they put the panel back, without it you don't have alt+F216:20
mhall119yeah, qimo won't be using Unity or Gnome-Shell16:20
mhall119it'll be Xfce or what they're calling "2d" Gnome16:20
charlie-tcaheh16:20
charlie-tcawhat a deal, huh?16:20
mhall119yeah16:21
mhall119Edubuntu is sticking with "2d" gnome too16:21
mhall119but the future of that is in question16:21
charlie-tcaIt is supposed to there for Natty, or did they change that again?16:21
mhall119no, it'll be there for natty16:22
mhall119but beyond that, I don't know how long Gnome will support it16:22
mhall119I assume that installing xubuntu-desktop on a natty-gnome install will give me the same packages/setup as installing from the xubuntu iso would, right?16:24
charlie-tcaIt should16:24
charlie-tcaBut it will have a lot of extra stuff from the gnome/ubuntu install16:25
mhall119cool, cause I'm installing that in VBox now16:25
mhall119that's fine16:25
charlie-tcahm, Xubuntu alternate images failed to build today. Many hash sum mismatch errors in the build log16:29
charlie-tcarebuilding now16:31
mhall119charlie-tca: know of any good tutorial for me to learn how to build ISOs from seeds?16:35
charlie-tcaI don't. Maybe cody-somerville does, though?16:35
charlie-tcacody-somerville, ^ ^ ^ 16:36
mhall119for the past two Qimo releases, I've been manually unpacking Xubuntu ISOs, making my changes, then re-mksquashfs/mkisofs-ing16:36
charlie-tcaThat seems like the hard way, too16:36
mhall119yes, but it required the least understanding16:36
mhall119and at the time, I had more time/energy than understanding16:37
charlie-tca:-)16:37
mhall119I also had a good tutorial on doing it that way16:37
mhall119but I want to move towards doing things the "right" way16:37
mhall119Qimo 1 I didn't even have .deb packages16:38
mhall119so every time I re-built an ISO, I had to remember which programs to add and which to remove, then copy my config files to the right places16:38
mhall119I like the new Xubuntu wallpaper16:41
charlie-tcamr_pouit, you here today? Our alternate images are failing to build16:42
charlie-tcaI had them rebuild it, but it failed again.16:43
mhall119oh hey, I like the new GTK/xfwm theme too16:47
ochosimhall119: what theme are you talking about, bluebird, greybird or something else?16:50
mhall119bluebird16:50
charlie-tcamhall119, you did not see it already?16:50
mhall119can I change the colors on that in a .gtkrc file?16:50
mhall119charlie-tca: no, first time16:50
charlie-tcaI think it is really good16:51
ochosimhall119: i'm currently reworking it a bit, less blue. that's why the new version is called "greybird". feel free to test it and feed back: http://shimmerproject.org/hg/bluebird-colors16:52
mhall119how hard would it be to change the blue/gray to pinks?16:53
ochosiin the newer theme it should be rather easy-ish16:54
ochosidepending of course on how pink you'd like it ;)16:54
mhall119cool, I might use it for Qimo16:54
ochosiwhat's Quimo? Quimo for kids?16:55
mhall119Qimo (no 'u'), yes16:56
ochosiah, right, sry :)16:56
ochosisure, if you need help with the pink feel free to ping me16:57
mhall119cool, thanks16:57
ochosii'm currently a bit busy with work so i won't promise much16:57
mhall119that's okay, I can find my way around most of a gtkrc file16:58
charlie-tcamr_pouit, never mind, according to <cjwatson> will require shell access to antimony. 16:58
mhall119well, I seem to have fu-bar'd my gnome setup already...16:58
ochosimhall119: the bluest part of the theme is the menubar i guess, and that's a pixmap...16:58
mhall119okay, I can make a different image for that16:59
ochosior just use gimp to change the hue ;)16:59
mhall119what day were xubuntu meetings scheduled for, Tuesday or Thursday?18:46
charlie-tcaThursday18:46
charlie-tca19:00 UTC18:46
mhall119dang, I'm gonna miss another one :(18:46

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