[03:33] micahg, want to give me an endorsement? https://wiki.uibuntu.com/CharlieKravetz/XubuntuProjectLeadNomination [03:35] * micahg seems to be having an issue w/the wiki ATM [03:35] charlie-tca: do I still need to send a mail to the CC? [03:35] yup [03:36] what? I got ahead of you? [03:36] ok [03:38] * micahg is just running a little behind [03:41] heh, alpha1 is out thursday this week [03:43] yep [03:45] which reminds me, I gotta get a message out to vinnl for the news bulletin [13:06] Good morning [16:14] testing is now started for Alpha1. Xubuntu desktop images are ready. [16:14] Ubuntu images can not be done using VBox now since 3d is not working in it and Unity/compiz requires it. [16:15] yeah, that's biting me [16:17] qimo? [16:17] no, just wanted to play with unity [16:17] and also to get compiz working on my VM at work [16:17] oh, yeah. I bought an ATI card for it [16:17] I'll be starting work on Qimo soon [16:17] I need to learn how to build an ISO from seeds [16:17] still can't use VBox, but at least I get a working desktop with Unity [16:18] I need to try it on my netbook, see if it's fast enough [16:18] pre-compiz unity wasn't [16:18] It has improved some with compiz [16:18] I'm going to make a new bottom panel for Qimo, using Python [16:19] Neat! [16:19] found an existing Python dock I can use for reference, and I've already got the XDG menu stuff figured out [16:19] Of course, now in Ubuntu w/unity, you can't really get most of the things to work. Basically, you can install it and run what's on the dock [16:19] that'll remove 50% of my desktop customization [16:20] I don't know if they put the panel back, without it you don't have alt+F2 [16:20] yeah, qimo won't be using Unity or Gnome-Shell [16:20] it'll be Xfce or what they're calling "2d" Gnome [16:20] heh [16:20] what a deal, huh? [16:21] yeah [16:21] Edubuntu is sticking with "2d" gnome too [16:21] but the future of that is in question [16:21] It is supposed to there for Natty, or did they change that again? [16:22] no, it'll be there for natty [16:22] but beyond that, I don't know how long Gnome will support it [16:24] I assume that installing xubuntu-desktop on a natty-gnome install will give me the same packages/setup as installing from the xubuntu iso would, right? [16:24] It should [16:25] But it will have a lot of extra stuff from the gnome/ubuntu install [16:25] cool, cause I'm installing that in VBox now [16:25] that's fine [16:29] hm, Xubuntu alternate images failed to build today. Many hash sum mismatch errors in the build log [16:31] rebuilding now [16:35] charlie-tca: know of any good tutorial for me to learn how to build ISOs from seeds? [16:35] I don't. Maybe cody-somerville does, though? [16:36] cody-somerville, ^ ^ ^ [16:36] for the past two Qimo releases, I've been manually unpacking Xubuntu ISOs, making my changes, then re-mksquashfs/mkisofs-ing [16:36] That seems like the hard way, too [16:36] yes, but it required the least understanding [16:37] and at the time, I had more time/energy than understanding [16:37] :-) [16:37] I also had a good tutorial on doing it that way [16:37] but I want to move towards doing things the "right" way [16:38] Qimo 1 I didn't even have .deb packages [16:38] so every time I re-built an ISO, I had to remember which programs to add and which to remove, then copy my config files to the right places [16:41] I like the new Xubuntu wallpaper [16:42] mr_pouit, you here today? Our alternate images are failing to build [16:43] I had them rebuild it, but it failed again. [16:47] oh hey, I like the new GTK/xfwm theme too [16:50] mhall119: what theme are you talking about, bluebird, greybird or something else? [16:50] bluebird [16:50] mhall119, you did not see it already? [16:50] can I change the colors on that in a .gtkrc file? [16:50] charlie-tca: no, first time [16:51] I think it is really good [16:52] mhall119: i'm currently reworking it a bit, less blue. that's why the new version is called "greybird". feel free to test it and feed back: http://shimmerproject.org/hg/bluebird-colors [16:53] how hard would it be to change the blue/gray to pinks? [16:54] in the newer theme it should be rather easy-ish [16:54] depending of course on how pink you'd like it ;) [16:54] cool, I might use it for Qimo [16:55] what's Quimo? Quimo for kids? [16:56] Qimo (no 'u'), yes [16:56] ah, right, sry :) [16:57] sure, if you need help with the pink feel free to ping me [16:57] cool, thanks [16:57] i'm currently a bit busy with work so i won't promise much [16:58] that's okay, I can find my way around most of a gtkrc file [16:58] mr_pouit, never mind, according to will require shell access to antimony. [16:58] well, I seem to have fu-bar'd my gnome setup already... [16:58] mhall119: the bluest part of the theme is the menubar i guess, and that's a pixmap... [16:59] okay, I can make a different image for that [16:59] or just use gimp to change the hue ;) [18:46] what day were xubuntu meetings scheduled for, Tuesday or Thursday? [18:46] Thursday [18:46] 19:00 UTC [18:46] dang, I'm gonna miss another one :(