| Riddell | ScottK: but paul wants to do the testing on 4.6 because that's the bit that will need and benefit from testing | 00:00 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: I think we should plan on packaging both and decide later which is on the CD. | 00:00 |
| Riddell | ScottK: sure | 00:00 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'd expect a decision before feature freeze though | 00:00 |
| ScottK | Yep | 00:00 |
| Riddell | so his testing is timed to be able to inform that | 00:01 |
| ScottK | I think that having both in the archive is a good general plan. | 00:02 |
| Riddell | ScottK: conflicting packages? | 00:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. I don't see a use case for having them co-installable. | 00:03 |
| Riddell | in such a case it would be good to keep the 4.6 mobile bits co-installable with the normal 4.4 bits, then mobile can go on kubuntu-mobile without conflicting with kubuntu-desktop | 00:04 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 00:04 |
| stefan` | hey ninjas :) | 00:27 |
| stefan` | i was jsut upgrading using the staging repo | 00:27 |
| stefan` | after some fiddeling with tiny steps forward i have a problem with akonadi | 00:28 |
| stefan` | i wnat to install kdebase-workspace but if i try so aptitude gives the following error: | 00:28 |
| stefan` | libakonadiprotocolinternals1: Breaks: libakonadiprivate1 but 1.4.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed. | 00:29 |
| Riddell | you want libakonadiprotocolinternals1 | 00:30 |
| Riddell | is kdepim upgraded? | 00:30 |
| JontheEchidna | anybody seen this one yet? http://paste.ubuntu.com/538497/ | 00:30 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: yes.. | 00:31 |
| yofel | that was fixed in runtime ubuntu2 I think | 00:31 |
| stefan` | but libakonadiprivate1 is not installed - i can install akonadi-server, though | 00:31 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, I thought I had apt-get update'd | 00:31 |
| stefan` | which gives me the protocol internals but still the same error | 00:31 |
| yofel | stefan`: you want to remove libakonadiprivate1 | 00:31 |
| Riddell | stefan`: pastebin apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace | 00:33 |
| stefan` | Riddel: sorry, i cannot pastebin - i have no browser, no mouse :D | 00:34 |
| stefan` | i try the ccommand nevertheless | 00:34 |
| yofel | there's pastebinit for the command line | 00:35 |
| stefan` | installed says none, candidate is ppa2 4.5.80, and i have three versions in the table | 00:35 |
| stefan` | yofel: thanks :) | 00:36 |
| stefan` | Riddel: http://pastebin.com/vdruGVCp | 00:37 |
| stefan` | sorry, s/Riddel/Riddell | 00:37 |
| Riddell | stefan`: hmm, well I'm not sure why it would think libakonadiprivate1 wants to be installed | 00:38 |
| Riddell | stefan`: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed? | 00:38 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - More friendly than Frosty | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | No rest! packaging 4.5.4 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | ||
| stefan` | no, i can't - trying to put that on pastebin. just a sec | 00:40 |
| stefan` | Riddell: pastebin.com/0a9ZuXdE | 00:42 |
| stefan` | Riddell: this is what happens when i try to install kubuntu-desktop | 00:42 |
| Riddell | stefan`: what command did you use for that? | 00:43 |
| stefan` | aptitude | 00:43 |
| stefan` | i might have one issue - kdepim-runtime comes from the experimental ppa - its 4.5-beta3 ppa1 | 00:44 |
| stefan` | could that be a problem? | 00:44 |
| Riddell | it could | 00:44 |
| stefan` | Riddell: for kubuntu-desktop i tried apt-get as well | 00:44 |
| Riddell | but why would it want to do that? | 00:44 |
| stefan` | ;) waht? | 00:44 |
| stefan` | i mean, do what? | 00:44 |
| Riddell | stefan`: ah, yes that's the problem | 00:46 |
| stefan` | Riddell: ohhhh :) removing the experimental ppa indeed helped | 00:46 |
| Riddell | it won't work with the pim beta in experimental | 00:46 |
| Riddell | you'll need to remove that first | 00:46 |
| Riddell | the other problem is plasma-widget-quickaccess | 00:46 |
| Riddell | maybe I can upload that to the PPA | 00:46 |
| stefan` | Riddell: wonderful. thanks for the help. | 00:46 |
| Riddell | stefan`: thanks for testing, let us know if it works after that | 00:47 |
| stefan` | Riddell: at least it installs the rest of the packages now | 00:50 |
| stefan` | Riddell: looks very good - i'll be back in a minute. hopefully from within kde ;) | 00:52 |
| stefan` | Riddell: it works. thanks a lot for the apckages to all of you | 00:55 |
| Riddell | stefan`: awooga, thanks again for testing | 00:56 |
| claydoh | Riddell: t machines up and running 4.6, only had to force-overwrite kdebase-runtime | 01:08 |
| ScottK | claydoh: What specifically? | 01:09 |
| * yofel does one last 4.6 maverick upgrade test before going to bed | 01:10 | |
| claydoh | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538506/ | 01:12 |
| ScottK | I fixed that one in Natty already. | 01:13 |
| ScottK | Someone should fix the PPA. | 01:13 |
| claydoh | both my ancient laptop and my dual core 64bit htpc box got this | 01:14 |
| yofel | PPA is updated, but not built/published yet | 01:15 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 01:15 |
| yofel | erm, huh? this was me setting up a maverick chroot, installing kubuntu-desktop, kde-full and the debug packages and then adding staging ppa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538507/ | 01:16 |
| yofel | ok, kdebase-runtime comes from i386 not being built yet | 01:16 |
| ScottK | yofel: It's not suprising with kde-full though. | 01:16 |
| ScottK | There will be things we didn't rebuild for 4.6 yet. | 01:17 |
| yofel | yeah, but I didn't expect it to break this bad | 01:17 |
| ScottK | I'm in the middle of doing a maverick -> natty upgrade in a chroot and it's going ~fine. | 01:17 |
| ScottK | Try it with apt-get. | 01:18 |
| yofel | that indeed gives a much saner picture http://paste.ubuntu.com/538512/ | 01:19 |
| Riddell | yofel: am testing kdevelop now, ok if I move to updates and announce if it's all good? | 01:20 |
| ScottK | My advice on aptitude is just stay away. | 01:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: How do you feel about another runtime upload to fix file overwrites? | 01:21 |
| yofel | Riddell: fine with me, should I copy them somewhere so you can copy them or do you want to re-upload? | 01:21 |
| Riddell | yofel: hmm, you build kdevelop against kde from updates? | 01:21 |
| yofel | Riddell: I did | 01:22 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'm all for fixing things | 01:22 |
| ScottK | OK. | 01:22 |
| ScottK | Mind if I fix hal at the same time? | 01:22 |
| Riddell | ScottK: go ahead | 01:22 |
| ScottK | OK | 01:22 |
| Riddell | ScottK: will you do maverick as well as natty? | 01:23 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Probably not. | 01:23 |
| ScottK | PPA uploads for Kubuntu make my head hurt. | 01:23 |
| ScottK | yofel: The apt-get answer looks pretty much like what you want. | 01:24 |
| claydoh | arr everytime I see 'natty' i read 'nasty' I hope that doesn't jinx anything | 01:28 |
| Riddell | hmm well launchpad is down | 01:44 |
| Riddell | guess that means it's time for bed | 01:44 |
| ScottK | yofel: ~12 hours ago you reported file overwrite problems with /kdebase-runtime-dbg. Did you report that on LP and what bug number was it? | 01:48 |
| yofel | ScottK: I fixed that myself already | 01:48 |
| ScottK | yofel: Fix and uploaded to Natty? | 01:49 |
| yofel | yes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/683132 - but launchpad's down | 01:50 |
| ScottK | yofel: Do the non-debug versions of those files conflict too? | 01:56 |
| * ScottK checks | 01:56 | |
| ScottK | yep | 01:57 |
| yofel | sorry, forgot to check that | 02:03 |
| yofel | well, the update on my last non-4.6 natty pc didn't give any kdebase related error though, what I did get was: | 02:09 |
| yofel | pkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-dbg_4%3a4.5.80-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 02:09 |
| yofel | trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/okteta', which is also in package kdeutils-dbg 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1 | 02:09 |
| yofel | which was the only thing that failed | 02:09 |
| * yofel is off to bed | 02:09 | |
| ScottK | Acutally it was gotten already. | 02:10 |
| ScottK | We should fix that one then. | 02:10 |
| ScottK | yofel: You can give me a debdiff to upload one LP is back up or I'll sort it out. | 02:11 |
| yofel | you sort it out or it'll have to wait, I need sleep | 02:11 |
| ScottK | Good night. | 02:14 |
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| ScottK | Ohhh. upload.ubuntu.com is either in the good data center or the bad one is fixed. | 02:30 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: ping | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | it is amazing how laggy my system gets with effects turned on | 10:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hola | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did someone do phonon-vlc already? | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: also 4.6 in staging wants ot remov eall sorts of stuff and install all sorts of useless stuff (e.g. synaptic) | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | Removing software-properties-kde:i386 rather than change python-kde4:i386 | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | all very scary | 10:39 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no nobody has had time to look at phonon-vlc | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: version 0.3.1 coming probably today | 10:40 |
| Riddell | good thing we didn't have time then :) | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | the changes are fixing minor problems, of which none would have affected us anyway | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | just wanted to know if someone stubmled upon anything kubuntu specific ^^ | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: oh, seems the staging break comes from missing bindings? | 10:43 |
| Riddell | I'm recompiling kdebindings now but there shouldn't be a problem with having python-kde4 installed | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: not, it removes it ;) | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | along with half my akonadi stack | 10:46 |
| * apachelogger doe snot take kindly to things messing with his perfect akonadi setup :P | 10:46 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: libakonadiprivate1 got removed, do you have something that depends on that? | 10:51 |
| hrw | is it normal that nepomuk database takes over 3GB? | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | hrw: depends on what indexed I suppose | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | mine is 421M | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: not sure, something is with libakonadiprotocolinternals1 and libakonadiprivate1 | 10:59 |
| Riddell | yes libakonadiprotocolinternals1 is the new one, libakonadiprivate1 the old one | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | ok | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | Holding Back libakonadiprotocolinternals1:i386 rather than change libakonadiprivate1:i386 | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | oh oh oh | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | I know | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kdepim4.6 beta is built with akonadiprivate1 | 11:00 |
| Riddell | oh well, there's your problem then | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | maybe it should provides: libakonadiprivate1? | 11:00 |
| Riddell | it can't, libakonadiprivate.so is gone | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | no goody I suppose | 11:02 |
| * apachelogger will have to switch to kdepim trunk | 11:02 | |
| hrw | apachelogger: one of nepomuk things to do is caching informations of files in indexed filesystems - right? | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | yes | 11:05 |
| * hrw needs to reboot ;( | 11:05 | |
| hrw | it is really hard to keep 4 weeks machine working with all updates | 11:06 |
| hrw | nepomuk took 1GB ram, chromium another one, plasma-desktop stopped refreshing | 11:06 |
| hrw | etc | 11:06 |
| steveire_ | <apachelogger> steveire_: is there ever going to be a new pim beta? | 11:55 |
| steveire_ | I don't understand. You mean 4.6? | 11:55 |
| steveire_ | Should be with the rest of the SC | 11:55 |
| Riddell | bulldog98 is packaging it | 11:56 |
| Riddell | but it'll go into experimental not beta | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | that solves my problem then, I suppose | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose, Mamarok, markey: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/broadcast.jpg <-- apachelogger's artwork of the day | 12:36 |
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| Mamarok | apachelogger: lol | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | wordpress in rekonq is so incredibly slow... | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ^^^^^ | 12:41 |
| markey | apachelogger: heh | 12:45 |
| markey | a masterpiece | 12:45 |
| markey | Nuno would be proud of you | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | totally | 12:46 |
| markey | apachelogger: now get that Phonon release done, chop chop, Dirty Harry! | 12:46 |
| * apachelogger is wondering when kwin will get more invovled snow effects | 12:46 | |
| apachelogger | markey: waiting for master jb to give me the ok | 12:46 |
| markey | the master Jim Beam is not Bono from U2 :p | 12:47 |
| markey | just do it | 12:47 |
| markey | you are the boss in Phonon | 12:47 |
| markey | not him | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | you said that yesterday too | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | and it did not work :P | 12:47 |
| markey | yeah, Jim Beam can be rather persistant | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | I can only use one backend at a time to see what is broken :P | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | main reason why I am all for burning all backends other than vlc and gst | 12:48 |
| markey | yeah | 12:50 |
| markey | no wait! | 12:51 |
| markey | you got it all wrong | 12:51 |
| markey | let's create 20 more backends | 12:51 |
| markey | all broken in different ways | 12:51 |
| markey | with obscure libraries | 12:51 |
| markey | and assembler Spaghetti code | 12:51 |
| markey | good plan? | 12:51 |
| rgreening | mmm spaghetti | 12:51 |
| markey | then we will be the heroes of KDE | 12:52 |
| markey | the guys who finally borked it all | 12:52 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: beautiful! :D | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | markey: I shall write my own mm framework in asm!!! | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | NCommander will then port it to arm | 12:54 |
| markey | you are teh suparstar haxx0r | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | yes, I know | 12:54 |
| markey | apachelogger: can you throw in TCL/TK as dependency? | 12:54 |
| markey | even if it's not used | 12:54 |
| markey | and M4 | 12:54 |
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| releaselogger | markey: sure, why not | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | another minion | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: want to become a minion? | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | since your free till January etc | 12:57 |
| kronos | shadeslayer: whats that ?? | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 12:57 |
| kronos | shadeslayer: yeah.. | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | releaselogger: explain ..... :P | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | also | 12:58 |
| shadeslayer | releaselogger: its wordpress's fault :D | 12:58 |
| releaselogger | berrumba | 12:58 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: and, get a *real* irc client | 13:00 |
| kronos | shadeslayer: k.. just got out from Hot Pursuit.. gotta restart .. | 13:00 |
| kronos | shadeslayer: brb | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 13:00 |
| releaselogger | real irc client: darth vader | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | we need to get him into ubuntu repos | 13:02 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, and im back .. | 13:02 |
| releaselogger | we need more fancy animations | 13:02 |
| releaselogger | !!! | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | along with a "Property of Kubuntu" sticker on him | 13:02 |
| releaselogger | I shall make more animations | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | more QML ftw!! | 13:03 |
| releaselogger | I shall be the overlord of animations | 13:03 |
| releaselogger | shadeslayer: that aint got nothing to do with flipping qml | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: so as a minion, you work under releaselogger, who becomes your master | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | along with a master of animation .... | 13:03 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, hmmm ... | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | releaselogger: yes, but QML has nice animations... | 13:03 |
| releaselogger | supreme apachelogger for you | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: so first up, do you have a GPG key and SSH key in Launchpad? | 13:04 |
| kronos | releaselogger, done that... | 13:04 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, yeah .. have those | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: next up is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | so what you see there is a list of stuff that needs to be packaged | 13:05 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, hmmm... ok .. | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | read the plan carefully... | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: err.. have you read the packaging guide? | 13:06 |
| * shadeslayer remembers teaching kronos some basic packaging earlier.... | 13:06 | |
| kronos | shadeslayer, trying to recall stuff .. | 13:07 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, will read it again .. | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | please do :) | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | so id suggest starting with kdetoys 4.5.4 | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: edit the wiki and put your name in there against kdetoys | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: download http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kdetoys-4.5.4.tar.bz2 | 13:12 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, getting a 403 forbidden on that address | 13:13 |
| shadeslayer | oh my | 13:13 |
| shadeslayer | fixed | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: after you download that, download the kdetoys packaging from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa | 13:15 |
| shadeslayer | use dget on the dsc | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | after thats done, move the debian folder over to the new unpacked sources, test build using pdebuild and poke someone over here :D | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | ( your building for maverick ofcourse ) | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | dantti: lol... kde 4.6 upgrade wants to remove kpk :P | 13:18 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, ok..i'll get back after that.. | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: i haz to go .... im sure someone here will help you out if you have problems | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | or call me.... :P | 13:18 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, ya.. | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | cya later :) | 13:19 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, later :) | 13:19 |
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| yofel | o/ | 13:52 |
| Riddell | hi yofel | 13:52 |
| Riddell | hmm, 7 compiles going | 13:57 |
| Riddell | busy busy | 13:58 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1202599 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationBackend.cpp ApplicationWindow.cpp) (log message trimmed) | 14:10 |
| CIA-24 | Get all of our WorkerEvent signals from the ApplicationBackend. This way we can | 14:10 |
| CIA-24 | reload only when the AppBackend says to. This prevents the reload occurring | 14:10 |
| yofel | ouch, I just tried to test-upgrade maverick to 4.6 in a chroot and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538657/ :S | 14:13 |
| Riddell | yofel: hmm, those pesky overwrite errors :( | 14:19 |
| dantti_work | I'm trying to install doxygen but it only shows doxygen-gui which depends on doxygen, did it change it's name? | 14:24 |
| yofel | some apt-get install -f and dpkg -i/r later the upgrade finished, now let's go through the log... | 14:29 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: there's a doxygen package with a doxygen binary in 10.10 | 14:31 |
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| yofel | so in the end I got 10 different overwrites: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538672/ (I got the last one too for natty, but LP was down then) | 14:39 |
| Riddell | wibble | 14:40 |
| yofel | Riddell: should I file bugs for them or just fix them myself? I think natty should get the replaces too | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: we could have a phonon panel discussion at fosdem? ^^ | 14:45 |
| yofel | I'll fix them myself, the first 7 are all in kdebase-workspace.. | 14:46 |
| Riddell | yofel: just fix them, in natty then maverick | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you speak autotools? | 14:48 |
| NCommander | apachelogger: that's E-IVL | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: can you join #zeitgeist and tell them | 14:48 |
| * apachelogger just suggested cmake, for it is also usable by people without mental condition :P | 14:49 | |
| NCommander | apachelogger: uhhh | 14:49 |
| steveire_ | I upgraded my laptop to 10.10. I had to do the apparmour config change before I could start Akonadi as my development user. Will it be possible to make that unnecessary at some stage? | 14:49 |
| ScottK | steveire_: What change? | 15:08 |
| steveire_ | ScottK: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting#Apparmor | 15:10 |
| ScottK | steveire_: That lists more than one thing. Which one did you get? | 15:13 |
| steveire_ | I always have to do this: sudo aa-complain mysqld | 15:16 |
| steveire_ | sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload | 15:16 |
| yofel | well yeah, since kubuntu uses mysqld-akonadi, not mysqld | 15:16 |
| yofel | I don't know what's the difference though... | 15:17 |
| ScottK | steveire_: So the problem is that as your development user you use mysqld and not our mysqld-akonadi and the apparmor profile doesn't allow this? | 15:17 |
| steveire_ | I don't know enough about mysql/apparmour/etc to know, but presumably, yes. | 15:21 |
| steveire_ | This is a self complied akonadi, so presumably that's using my system mysqld instead of the mysqld-akonadi you have? | 15:22 |
| steveire_ | What is mysqld-akonadi for? | 15:22 |
| ScottK | IIRC we use that instead of the regular one in order to minimize the amount of mysql that gets pulled onto desktop systems. | 15:26 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Do you recall? | 15:26 |
| kronos | apachelogger, built kdetoys 4.5.4 locally ... buildlog is at http://pastebin.com/wEP4u5iM need to upload to kubuntu-ninjas. | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | kronos: you want to read https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2010-July/004549.html especially a) | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | kronos: also checkout the pbuilder hooks section at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | kronos: currently you are missing a list-missing output, which means we cannot be sure that a new file is not packaged | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | or rather | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | not not packaged | 15:33 |
| ScottK | steveire_: I talked with our security person that does most of the apparmor work and he doesn't see a way to make our mysqld profile work for you without leaving it too unconfined for server users (I think this is why we have the unconfined mysqld-akonadi ). | 15:34 |
| ScottK | So it's a case of conflicting requirements. | 15:34 |
| ScottK | steveire_: If you are interested in a slightly more general solution than you have now, you might want to join #ubuntu-hardened. jdstrand would be glad to review your kernel logs and help you come up with a modified profile for /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld to solve it once and for all. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | This could also be put on kde.org so others could avoid the problem too. | 15:39 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1202614 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Feedback for pressing the install/remove button. Still has some kinks to work out. | 15:44 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: funny this package does not show here :P | 15:44 |
| kronos | apachelogger, can i remove the D20icecc hook .. it is causing an error while building . | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | yes we can! | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | eh | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | yes you can! | 15:49 |
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| rbelem | apachelogger, could you take a look at http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4320/ to check if everything is ok? :-) | 15:53 |
| rbelem | agateau, ^ :-) | 15:53 |
| Riddell | steveire_: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi is a copy of the /usr/sbin/mysqld binary, it is so we can give it a different more permissive apparmour profile | 16:00 |
| steveire_ | I see. Do you patch the akonadi server to use that one instead of mysqld? | 16:02 |
| steveire_ | There might be scope for us adding something to akonadi to make the situation better | 16:02 |
| Riddell | steveire_: we build with DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += -DMYSQLD_EXECUTABLE=/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi | 16:04 |
| steveire_ | I see. | 16:07 |
| steveire_ | I wonder if we can make that come from a desktop file instead or something so that all akonadiis started will use the right mysqld, even self built ones | 16:08 |
| Riddell | well then all akonadis would have to know to find that desktop file even if that desktop file was not in their path | 16:08 |
| Riddell | I guess it could be a config file in /etc/kde4 | 16:09 |
| yofel | Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdeartwork/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42384 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase/4.5.80ubuntu2/+merge/42385 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase-workspace/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42383 | 16:10 |
| Riddell | yofel: awesomeage | 16:11 |
| skfin | Somebody pinged sabdfl's brains after unity and wayland, found nothing :) | 16:12 |
| skfin | Well, actually, I shouldn't comment on that. I havent been using ubuntu for a while | 16:13 |
| skfin | 2 years or something | 16:13 |
| yofel | Riddell: ScottK did the sdk error, just didn't upload yet | 16:16 |
| ScottK | yofel: I think I fixed that one last night in Natty. Didn't do Maverick. | 16:16 |
| Riddell | skfin: eh? | 16:16 |
| yofel | ScottK: I see it in bzr, but not in natty-changes | 16:17 |
| skfin | Riddell: Don't care, I feel bit dizzy | 16:18 |
| ScottK | yofel: I uploaded it, but it was while LP was having problems. Sounds like the upload got eaten. I'll push it again. | 16:18 |
| yofel | heh | 16:18 |
| ScottK | Done | 16:18 |
| skfin | Riddell: Mostly that I don't personally like the idea of unity | 16:19 |
| skfin | Wayland is not that bad, it just needs quite much work | 16:19 |
| Riddell | skfin: well do try to remain respectful | 16:20 |
| skfin | Riddell: Yeah, as I said, I shouldn't event comment on that since I havent use gnome for a very long time | 16:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I know it's not your archive day, but would you please do the backports for Karmic/Lucid/Maverick in Bug #683710? I'll have a newer clamav as soon as the alpha 1 freeze is over and I want to get this backported first. | 16:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 683710 in maverick-backports "Please backport clamav 0.96.4 to Maverick, Lucid, Karmic, Hardy, and Dapper." [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683710 | 16:21 |
| skfin | But this is ultimate-offtopic. | 16:21 |
| skfin | /s/event/even | 16:22 |
| kronos | apachelogger, new build log http://pastebin.com/8p8F7mmC ... | 16:22 |
| Riddell | ScottK: what was that? | 16:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: clamav backport. | 16:29 |
| ScottK | Just needs the natty clamav backported to karmic/lucid/maverick using the magic script. | 16:29 |
| ScottK | I'll do hardy and dapper since they need uploads. | 16:29 |
| Riddell | ok, poke me in an hour if I haven't got to it | 16:32 |
| Riddell | kronos: how did you get on with kdetoys? | 16:33 |
| === bhargav is now known as kronos | ||
| bulldog98 | Riddell: I only need one file to package usr/bin/kincidenceeditor | 16:37 |
| yofel | Riddell: can I do kdeutils 4.5.4? Someone'll have to get me the tar though | 16:39 |
| Riddell | yofel: yes do | 16:45 |
| Riddell | yofel: what's your ssh key? | 16:46 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: ping | 16:46 |
| Riddell | hi bulldog98 | 16:47 |
| yofel | Riddell: take the first one https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+sshkeys | 16:47 |
| kronos | apachelogger, what should be done about the list-missing output ? | 16:47 |
| bulldog98 | hi Riddell, I am doing a test build and if that has no errors, I’ll commit the code to a branch | 16:48 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: great | 16:49 |
| Riddell | yofel: ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org | 16:49 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: but I have to warn you, I added some packages and you have to check my spelling and the contence of the description ^^ | 16:50 |
| yofel | Riddell: thanks | 16:51 |
| rgreening | is it just my system or did latest updates take kwin compositing for a dump down slow lane? | 16:56 |
| yofel | rgreening: if you want to say that kwin 4.5.80 is slow as hell then I agree | 16:56 |
| rgreening | wobbly windows don't wobble | 16:57 |
| rgreening | and my load avg is >2 | 16:57 |
| rgreening | something is terribly rong | 16:57 |
| ScottK | It's a beta .... | 16:58 |
| rgreening | hmmm... how many instances of mepomuk should be running? | 16:58 |
| ScottK | None IMO. | 16:58 |
| rgreening | lol. if one has it enabled, how many | 16:58 |
| rgreening | I see many | 16:58 |
| yofel | I have 3 instances of nepomukservicestup, with nepomuk on, strigi off | 16:59 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Looks like there's a chance we may be able to do away with mysqld-akonadi. jdstrand and steveire_ are going to look into it. | 16:59 |
| yofel | or more accurate:http://paste.ubuntu.com/538715/ | 16:59 |
| rgreening | ok, it's not nepomuk related. kwin was behaving fine (apparantly) last night, but today, updates seem to have caused load issue and lag in compositing. Maybe kernel related as there was a kernel update. not sure though. | 17:02 |
| Riddell | kronos: looks like you got kdetoys building fine | 17:06 |
| Riddell | kronos: can you send me the source package files? | 17:06 |
| kronos | Riddell, yeah.. how do i send them ? | 17:07 |
| Riddell | kronos: do you have a web server you can put them on? if not I can give you access to a server if you have an ssh key | 17:07 |
| kronos | Riddell, i have an ssh key .. no web server .. | 17:08 |
| kronos | Riddell, can we use the one on my launchpad profile https://launchpad.net/~bhargav | 17:08 |
| Riddell | kronos: scp <files> ubuntu@ec2-67-202-29-176.compute-1.amazonaws.com: | 17:12 |
| kronos | Riddell, should i upload all the files in the pbuilder/result folder ? | 17:13 |
| maco | not the debs | 17:13 |
| maco | just need the src, orig, and diff/debian.gz | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | kronos: with the hooks you should get that automagically | 17:14 |
| kronos | Riddell, copied .. | 17:19 |
| Riddell | lovely, thanks kronos | 17:21 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks for the backports. | 17:22 |
| kronos | Riddell, ty .. :) | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: is 4.6 ready in staging ppa? | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | like... is it good to install? | 17:25 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1202629 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp The worker state is populated when a transaction successfully begins. This meant that the failed transaction would not be removed from the queue if the first transaction done failed. | 17:26 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: not really, I got 10 overwrite errors on my last upgrade test | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: apart from those :P | 17:28 |
| yofel | Riddell: can you look at my merges or can I upload to staging anyway? | 17:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: there's some overwrite errors still and kdebindings being done | 17:28 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: apart from those it was fine I think | 17:28 |
| Riddell | kronos: kdetoys uploaded, many thanks | 17:28 |
| Riddell | yofel: you need to give me the URLs again | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: Riddell i have http://pastebin.ca/2007854 | 17:29 |
| yofel | Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdeartwork/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42384 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase/4.5.80ubuntu2/+merge/42385 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase-workspace/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42383 | 17:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: do you have kdepim 4.6 beta installed? | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. i dont remember... | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | ah.. thats why it wants to remove them | 17:30 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1202630 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Install/remove button feedback improvements in the App Details Widget too. | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | kronos: the hooks take care of that | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | from your last log... | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | # list-missing files result: | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | -./usr/share/man/man6/amor.6 | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | I: user script /var/cache/pbuilder/build//19221/tmp/hooks/B10list-missing finished | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | however manpages yield false positives, so all files are installed :) | 17:34 |
| kronos | apachelogger, hmm.. Riddell saw that .. i sent him the source files.. | 17:34 |
| kronos | apachelogger, mission accomplished.. :) | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | terrific | 17:35 |
| * shadeslayer so hates man pages after UDS-N | 17:35 | |
| yofel | shadeslayer: huh? | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: dont ask.... | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | and now for something completely different... a man with a manpage up his nose | 17:36 |
| Riddell | yofel: merges all look good | 17:37 |
| Riddell | yofel: go ahead and upload to staging | 17:38 |
| yofel | thanks | 17:39 |
| Riddell | yofel: I've merged in your overwrites changes to bzr packaging branches for natty, can't upload due to alpha 1 freeze, remind me to upload after | 17:54 |
| yofel | will do | 17:55 |
| kronos | apachelogger, anything else i could do .. | 17:56 |
| Riddell | kronos: review the current status of builds in kubuntu-ppa/staging and kubuntu-ninjas | 17:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kde pim 4.6 beta won't work with our kde sc 4.6 beta packages | 17:58 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: why? | 17:58 |
| Riddell | you'll need to downgrade or not install 4.6 beta (you could try 4.5.4 testing instead) | 17:58 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: I mean the old old kde pim 4.6 beta packages | 17:59 |
| bulldog98 | ok | 17:59 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Could that be solved by rebuilding the pim packages against the new akonadi/pimlibs? | 18:00 |
| Riddell | ScottK: we have rebuild the 4.4 pim packages against the new akonadi but that doesn't help people who have 4.6-beta which is a larger version number | 18:01 |
| Riddell | they'll need to wait for bulldog98's new kde pim 4.6 beta packages | 18:01 |
| Riddell | or downgrade | 18:01 |
| ScottK | I see. | 18:01 |
| * bulldog98 is uploading the kdepim-packaging diff | 18:01 | |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: ^^ | 18:02 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: uploading to where? | 18:03 |
| bulldog98 | a new branch | 18:03 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kdepim/ubuntu-4.6 | 18:03 |
| * bulldog98 now needs to go to bed and will finish that stuff tomorrow evening or afternoon | 18:04 | |
| Riddell | thanks bulldog98 | 18:04 |
| * bulldog98 forgot to commit | 18:05 | |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1202638 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Switch the progressbar back to the action button when a transaction is cancelled via not authorizing/canceling at the authorization screen | 18:05 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: I'm currently packaging the phonon-backend-vlc-0.3.1 from the git tag and I see that there is still the version number 0.2.0 in ../vlc/vlc.desktop | 18:05 |
| crysknife | any plans to change this upstream? | 18:06 |
| Riddell | kronos: there's also plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets needing done, it's an interesting package | 18:10 |
| Riddell | crysknife: packaging for Kubuntu? | 18:10 |
| crysknife | Riddel: my maverick PPA | 18:11 |
| Riddell | crysknife: it would be good to have it in the main kubuntu archive too | 18:12 |
| kronos | Riddell, where can i get the source tarball for plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets ? | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | crysknife: thy shall not package from git | 18:15 |
| Riddell | kronos: it's made by running a rule in debian/rules in the packaging | 18:15 |
| Riddell | it's made from part of another package | 18:15 |
| crysknife | Riddel: indeed :) any volunteers ... I'm just starting packaging | 18:16 |
| Riddell | crysknife: well if you're packaging it for your PPA then it just needs testing to check it builds in natty too | 18:17 |
| Riddell | crysknife: if you want the packaging reviewed we'd be very happy to do that | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: what does one have to do to get a new version entry for phonon on bugs.kde.org? | 18:17 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: what's your suggestion? | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | using the tarball | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | also it is not much of a suggestion but an upstream that you can call it 0.3.1 | 18:19 |
| crysknife | where to find? | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | s/upstream/upstream requirement | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | crysknife: ftp.kde.org | 18:19 |
| crysknife | thanks | 18:19 |
| kronos | Riddell, the debian/rules tries to export it from the anonsvn.kde.org server .. im getting a url does not exist. | 18:21 |
| Riddell | kronos: so you can't checkout anything from anonsvn.kde.org ? | 18:22 |
| kronos | never tried.. | 18:22 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: tell me what version you want, I can change it | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: 4.4.3 | 18:23 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: found it, that makes things easier | 18:23 |
| Mamarok | but you can only add versions for phonon, not for backends | 18:23 |
| Mamarok | OK, will change now | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that is silly on its own, but better 4.4.3 than 4.4.2 :) | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | silly bugzilla -.- | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ping | 18:24 |
| kronos | Riddell, can it be because of the migration to git thingy .. | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | kronos: what you trying to do? | 18:28 |
| Riddell | kronos: no I think some anonsvn servers are flakey | 18:28 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: done | 18:28 |
| kronos | apachelogger, plasma-scriptingengine-googlegadgets | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: merci beaucoup | 18:28 |
| kronos | *scriptengine . | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | kronos: oh, for maverick? | 18:29 |
| kronos | apachelogger, yup | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | eh | 18:30 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: what will be the next version after 4.4.3, 4.4.4 or 4.5? | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | dunno yet | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | preferrably 4.5 with loads of features to kill qtmm dead | 18:31 |
| Mamarok | yep, that would be great | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | kronos: make -f debian/rules get-orig-source works fine here? | 18:31 |
| kronos | apachelogger, that worked .. | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | kronos: what did you try to do? | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | or how? | 18:34 |
| kronos | apachelogger, i tried running the rules script... pretty lame .. | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | kronos: read the make manual :P | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you too :P | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: pongly | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | yeah i read a bit of it on the flight | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | not all of it tho | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | my point exactly | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also I am getting complaints that you are being lazy... why is that? | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | not lazy... blame it on exams | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | dude | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | you have exams like 90% of the year :P | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | at some point that excuse is not gonna work no more | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | no seriously :P | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | also you did not read the make manual, so you cannot even appear as if you wre not lazy | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | if I learned one thing from the manual, it is how to be busy while being lazy | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: when do exams end? | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | 6th Jan | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | hmmmm | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | that is rather longish | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | i know ... | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | try telling that to the uni :D | 18:42 |
| * apachelogger promotes kronos to supreme minion | 18:42 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you now report to kronos | 18:43 |
| yofel | lol | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | lol :P | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: he has college etc from 3rd Jan | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | right now one is packaging and one is not | 18:44 |
| * apachelogger is only reflecting this in the rank | 18:45 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ill try and get some work done ... but im not sure when ill be available .... ill be free during the weekend probably | 18:47 |
| kronos | shadeslayer, i think is the htc thats not letting u package ... :P | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: nah... i switched it off | 18:47 |
| * shadeslayer was looking up capacitor values | 18:47 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | a phone that is turned off so no one call | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | precisely | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | wise investement :P | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | a phone that is turned off so no one call and disturb you .... | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | for that you turn it to mute | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | also that does not make much sense if one can distrub you via irc :P | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ill keep checking it every now and then .... | 18:49 |
| * apachelogger will announce phonon-vlc 0.3.1 supposedly | 18:49 | |
| shadeslayer | thats why i turn it off | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | wha | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: turn off irc | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | you just announced 0.3 yesterday .... | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | you know how it is | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: where does freenode have its off switch :P | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | while I am at the code I might as well make it good | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | oftc as well... | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | changed 740 sloc :P | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | in one day? :O | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also, i was hunting for minions at a Open Source Camp... | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | so id say that is some work :D | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: where are they? | 18:55 |
| === arpan_ is now known as arpan | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kronos and aakshay | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | seems you were too successful since kronos is now supreme minion :P | 18:55 |
| ScottK | New minions are something. | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | one really should not look for people who are better than oneself ^^ | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | everyone else wanted to hack on android and drupal | 18:55 |
| ScottK | He should get credit for that. | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 18:55 |
| * steveire_ still has a lot to do before grantlee 0.1.8 | 18:55 | |
| * apachelogger pets shadeslayer | 18:55 | |
| * steveire_ steveire_ | 18:55 | |
| === steveire_ is now known as steveire | ||
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: they will feel silly | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | once I have rolled out my animations | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | animations everywhere | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | lol :P | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | I will animate mouse movement | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | uh... no more bouncing icons please | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | it will fade out at one point and fade in at another point | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | and then blink and stuff | 18:56 |
| ScottK | Of course dumping them in here for a master like Riddell to have to teach and be distracted from his other important work is not so great. | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | and then probably starts rotating or something | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, better him than us I'd think ;) | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: im also teaching both of them over the phone too | 18:58 |
| ScottK | True, but surely shadeslayer has absorbed some basic information he could have imparted without burdening someone like Riddell. | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | yes | 18:58 |
| Riddell | I don't mind being burdened with some teaching, it's something everyone should do | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | minus points for that | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: but you see, shadeslayer is busy with exams, or so he claims :P | 18:58 |
| * apachelogger needs to stop being cynical and announce phonon-vlc | 18:59 | |
| ScottK | Right. I've heard this excuse before. | 18:59 |
| Riddell | how can shadeslayer be busy with exams? all the schools are closed because of the snow | 18:59 |
| Riddell | universities and colleges are all shut down | 19:00 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | not here they arent | 19:00 |
| apachelogger | or so you say... | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | btw ... where is Lex ... | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | not deflecting the topic or anything... but i havent seen him for a long time | 19:03 |
| Riddell | no, worrying | 19:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: want to e-mail him and check he's ok? | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | last time i did, he replied he was on a break... | 19:04 |
| Riddell | but they was months ago | 19:04 |
| Riddell | that | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | but that was like about... 5 months ago | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 19:04 |
| Riddell | ok kdebindings uploaded to staging with suppport packages | 19:05 |
| Riddell | kdebindings also just entered the archive so hopefully we'll get CD images sometime to test for alpha 1 | 19:05 |
| * Riddell out for food | 19:05 | |
| * shadeslayer finally understands capacitance codes | 19:06 | |
| * apachelogger hates rekonq so much it hurts his brain | 19:07 | |
| apachelogger | ok | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | screw it | 19:08 |
| * apachelogger switches to firefox | 19:08 | |
| apachelogger | enough of that crap | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | kronos: once you are done with packaging foo please ping me, I have awesome research tasks | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | loads and loads of things to learn about our ISO building process | 19:09 |
| kronos | apachelogger, as u say ... master .. :P | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | kronos: it is ubermaster! :P | 19:10 |
| rgreening | kmail is no longer asking for passphrase to sign e-mails under 4.6 | 19:10 |
| rgreening | worked up till now | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: does it sign the mail ? because the passphrase is unlocked for some time .... | 19:11 |
| rgreening | I was always prompted for my passphrase, now I am not and it complains about "Bad Passphrase" shadeslayer | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | otoh it could be because of pinentry-qt4 | 19:12 |
| rgreening | and no, it cannot sign | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | no idea apart from that ... | 19:14 |
| rgreening | shadeslayer: you using natty? | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | nope... maverick... and kmail wants to be removed on the 4.6 upgrade | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/phonon-vlc-0-3-rock-solid/ | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also, in order to change project name, we need to file a launchpad question, im not sure who has to file it tho, you or me ... since i have never touched that project etc... | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | you file it | 19:19 |
| * shadeslayer read that a few mins ago | 19:19 | |
| apachelogger | I post "ack" | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | the do it | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 19:19 |
| * shadeslayer files question | 19:19 | |
| * apachelogger pings Nightrose | 19:22 | |
| * Nightrose pongs apachelogger | 19:22 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: could you RT my phonon vlc dent? | 19:22 |
| Nightrose | probably :D | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/136250 | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: :* | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | now someone needs to add LOSA's as a assignee | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | cya later.... | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | kronos: have fun ... :D | 19:26 |
| * apachelogger dances with Nightrose to flogging molly's devil's dance floor | 19:29 | |
| apachelogger | now shadeslayer is playing with his phone again | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | oh right, someone should tell aakshay that I barely am around at 3:11am | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | and if I were I probably would not be of much use ^^ | 19:31 |
| kronos | apachelogger, correct me if i am wrong... .. for the plasma-----... i first did a dget on an older package ... took the debian folder to a new place .. updated changelog ... got the orig.tar.gz..extracted it and a pdebuild.. | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | sounds about right | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | kronos: for natty the workflow would be different | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | kronos: did anyone tell you about bzr packaging yet? | 19:35 |
| kronos | apachelogger, nah.. not yet.. | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | it is a more flexiable way of packaging we use for core KDE, you surely will come across it not too far in the future ^^ | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | anyhow, with bzr packaging doing a new plasma-scriptengine-gg release is: edit changelog - build source - upload ;) | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | just in case you wondered why it is so complicated ;) | 19:36 |
| kronos | hmmm... | 19:37 |
| * apachelogger is done with phonon-vlc release and starts analyzing data structures | 19:39 | |
| rgreening | shadeslayer: I think its a gpg option changed issue | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:39 |
| * apachelogger beings to think that jussi wants us to kill kubotu | 19:40 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: come again? | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | why else would he repeatedly shoot him | 19:40 |
| jussi | apachelogger: your autostart script is broken or doesnt exisit | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | first you loose my beautiful init script to start kubotu and then you restart it all the time :( | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | jussi: well, did you backup /etc? | 19:41 |
| * apachelogger is pretty sure it would work if only it were there | 19:41 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: I think so... | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | whats worst about it is that I do not even remember how exactly that thing worked | 19:41 |
| * apachelogger probably wrote it after 3 glasses of captain | 19:41 | |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order tea | 19:42 |
| * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice hot cup of tea. | 19:42 | |
| jussi | :) | 19:42 |
| kronos | apachelogger, buildlog http://pastebin.com/Me2CxaXq | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order tea, earl grey, hot for Nightrose | 19:42 |
| * kubotu is replicating a hot cup of earl grey for captain Nightrose. | 19:42 | |
| apachelogger | kronos: splenedid, can you send me the source? | 19:43 |
| kronos | apachelogger, how ? no webserver .. | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | 19:43 | |
| apachelogger | apachelogger@ubuntu.com | 19:43 |
| kronos | roger | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | kronos: you should hurry up with becoming a kubuntu member, so you get free web space ;) | 19:44 |
| kronos | apachelogger, im working on that .... and i am on fire today ... :P | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | ++fire | 19:45 |
| kronos | apachelogger, sent mail .. | 19:49 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: I've downloaded the orig tarball of the phonon-vlc backend but if when I run debuild -S in the extracted directory the .changes file doesn't include the tarball anymore. So upload fails. Any idea? | 19:58 |
| apachelogger | crysknife: you need to make sure that the tarball is named $name_$upstreamversion.orig.tar{gz,bz2} | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | no | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | hold on | 19:59 |
| * apachelogger reads again | 19:59 | |
| crysknife | it is | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | crysknife: debuild -S -sa | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | also make sure you revision is appropriate | 20:00 |
| crysknife | I'll try that | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | -S only should leave the tar.gz out of the changes if the revision is >1 | 20:00 |
| kronos | apachelogger, anything for me .. | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | trying to download | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | silly kmail convers the file names -.- | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | kronos: do you need a new task? | 20:01 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: you are right - thanks | 20:02 |
| kronos | apachelogger, hmmm.... anything that wont take more than an hour .. | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | hm | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | seems 4.5.4 is all done :) | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | kronos: you could just do some reading | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | or call it a day and have some proper fun ;) | 20:04 |
| kronos | apachelogger, hmm... that sounds good.. will have some fifa before going to bed.. | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | kronos: or you could read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/About <-- that is theory of the bzr packaging I was talking about | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | very well | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | kronos: have fun :) | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | good work today | 20:05 |
| kronos | apachelogger, ty :) .. | 20:05 |
| kronos | cya .. | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets 4.5.4 in ninjas | 20:09 |
| * yofel runs another 4.6 maverick update test | 20:10 | |
| steveire | Has there been any reports of the computer locking while compiling? | 20:17 |
| steveire | When compiling something big like kdelibs or kdebase My coputer is freezing, but I can still move the mouse | 20:17 |
| steveire | 10.10 | 20:17 |
| yofel | could be too much swap or memory I/O if you compile with too many jobs, but maverick worked fine for me | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: project renamed, if you would be so kind as to mark the question solved | 20:18 |
| * yofel gets overwrite errors again AAARGH... | 20:18 | |
| apachelogger | steveire: it is not frozen if you can move the mouse.... ;) | 20:19 |
| yofel | kdelibs stuff this time... | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | steveire: with compositing on? | 20:19 |
| * apachelogger thinks this sounds more window managy than anything else | 20:19 | |
| steveire | Yeah. I think so. I get annoying animations | 20:19 |
| steveire | I have to do a hard reset to recover | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | I would turn off the effects and try without them | 20:20 |
| steveire | Done, thanks | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | and poke mgraesslin about it, if it improves performance ;) | 20:21 |
| Quintasan | grr | 20:23 |
| steveire | Will do. | 20:23 |
| * steveire goes home to implement tee | 20:23 | |
| * Quintasan can't make his computer to work | 20:23 | |
| Quintasan | -to | 20:23 |
| yofel | Quintasan: what did you do? | 20:24 |
| Quintasan | yofel: nothing, same thing, after some time the damn machine becomes unresponsive until I do alt+sysrq+{RSEIB} | 20:24 |
| yofel | :( | 20:25 |
| yofel | hurray, I'm down from 10 overwrite errors to 6 -.- | 20:25 |
| * yofel goes fixing | 20:25 | |
| * rgreening thinks it's because Quintasan forgets to U in the RSEIUB line :) | 20:32 | |
| yofel | and I ususally use REISUB, not RSEIUB | 20:33 |
| rgreening | yofel: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Bizzare (Order should probably matter) | 20:33 |
| yofel | Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring is how I learned it | 20:34 |
| rgreening | S is Sync, and should be early (IMO) | 20:34 |
| yofel | well, it probably doesn't matter much if you kill processes before or after sync | 20:34 |
| * apachelogger wonders what everyone is talking about | 20:35 | |
| rgreening | though, Sync early means better chance your stuff makes it to disk before you finish executing the rest of the commands | 20:35 |
| rgreening | one doesn't necessarily wait for the other | 20:35 |
| yofel | apachelogger: how to break Quintasans PC not as bad as he does himself | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | I see | 20:35 |
| rgreening | yah, he forgets unmount :) | 20:35 |
| rgreening | hah | 20:36 |
| dantti | shadeslayer: well probably kpk would need a recompile for 4.6:P | 20:39 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: phonon-backend-vlc package has been successfully built but several mediaplayer (e.g. dragon, amarok) still crash on exit. | 21:08 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: do you know such problems? | 21:09 |
| crysknife | apachelogger: Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault) | 21:10 |
| apachelogger | it is in pulseaudio | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | crysknife: do you want to fix it | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | ( | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | (requires a SRU) | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | !sru | 21:12 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.scm/2725 | 21:12 |
| yofel | Riddell: I fear packaging needs some more fixup https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdelibs/4.5.80ubuntu3/+merge/42416 https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase-workspace/4.5.80ubuntu4_2/+merge/42419 https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdeartwork/4.5.80ubuntu4_2/+merge/42420 | 21:14 |
| * rbelem is building latest plasma-mobile snapshot | 21:42 | |
| apachelogger | rbelem: n900 instructions... | 21:47 |
| rbelem | oh! | 21:48 |
| rbelem | just one min | 21:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell, et al: New Kubuntu images need testing for Alpha 1. | 21:49 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'm pretty sure you meant world peace, not world piece. | 22:09 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 22:10 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: are you there? | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | I am always somewhere | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: true, where did I write this? | 22:10 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Your phonon + VLC blog post. | 22:11 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: smae thing | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ah, cheers | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | fixed | 22:11 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 22:11 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: how could you say vlc is stable? is crashing on exit like always | 22:11 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: this will piss a lot of ppl :D | 22:11 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Just clearing up the mess apachelogger left behind in his rush to be somewhere. | 22:11 |
| * apachelogger recently has a lot of cases of writing things like that... wonder why that is | 22:11 | |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: no | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | pulse is | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | go fix it | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.scm/2725 | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | there patch | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | !sru | 22:12 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | go for it | 22:12 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: so with alsa it works just fine, but crash on exit with pulse? | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | yes | 22:12 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: isnt pulse shipped in 10.10 by default? | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | cause pulse is a thread mess | 22:12 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah im not disagreing with you | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | despite being not old enough to have an excuse for bad threading | 22:12 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: ehehehe touche :D | 22:13 |
| * apachelogger sees _Groo_ make an SRU for it and is happy | 22:13 | |
| * apachelogger rushes somewhere | 22:13 | |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i can apply that patch and upload to a ppa with new pulse and vlc included? | 22:13 |
| apachelogger | no | 22:13 |
| apachelogger | SRU | 22:13 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: is it abi compatible with the one in 10.10? | 22:13 |
| apachelogger | yes | 22:14 |
| * _Groo_ doesnt know what a sru is | 22:14 | |
| apachelogger | it only fixes the internal logic | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | or rather the non-logic | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | !sru | 22:14 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Did you discuss this SRU with crimsun? | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | bot hates me | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: no, but with the colin, IIRC he even tried to get it done before 10.10, did not quite work out | 22:15 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i hear you did some nasty things to the poor bot | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: Riddell knows all about it AFAIK | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: no, just see the sru link from above | 22:15 |
| yofel | _Groo_: that was the other bot | 22:15 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: :D | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | and jussi did nasty things to that bot... | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | jussi: any luck with the init script? | 22:15 |
| * _Groo_ wonders why kubuntu devs sexually abuse all the poor bots that work in this channel | 22:16 | |
| * _Groo_ thinks this could make him a good class suit money :D | 22:16 | |
| * _Groo_ just needs to find an abused bot that is willing to talk | 22:16 | |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config list | 22:17 |
| kubotu | modules: translator, factoids, lastfm, server, http, remote, twitter, irclog, send, irc, rejoin, greet, nickserv, salut, rss, markov, keyword, plugins, core, poll, google, encoding, auth, log, debug, seen, wheelfortune, host, autoop, wikipedia, chanserv, ri | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config list markov | 22:17 |
| kubotu | markov.readonly, markov.delay, markov.max_words, markov.answer_addressed, markov.enabled, markov.ignore, markov.learn_delay, markov.ignore_patterns, markov.probability | 22:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: gonna check this patch to the current pulse, it it upstream? | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config get markov.enabled | 22:17 |
| kubotu | markov.enabled: false | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config set markov.enabled to true | 22:17 |
| kubotu | failed to set markov.enabled: to true does not match either 'true' or 'false', and it's not an integer either | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config set markov.enabled true | 22:17 |
| kubotu | okay | 22:17 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/n900 | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config get markov.probability | 22:18 |
| kubotu | markov.probability: 99 | 22:18 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i'm still writing | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: thank you | 22:18 |
| kubotu | that's why i'm still figuring out the debs get populated all at once | 22:18 |
| kubotu | your debugging Windows Vista? | 22:18 |
| rbelem | it is not complete | 22:18 |
| kubotu | not complete yet though. Some are missing | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: how can you tell? | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config set markov.probability 25 | 22:18 |
| kubotu | okies! | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: here you have a talking bot | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: sort of | 22:18 |
| rbelem | hey kubotu | 22:18 |
| kubotu | re, rbelem | 22:18 |
| kubotu | I sort of goof I made crimsun sponsor all of his first package :) | 22:18 |
| rww | I for one welcome our newly verbose robotic overlords. | 22:19 |
| kubotu | I for one :P | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: you'd have to talk to coling in #kde-devel | 22:19 |
| * apachelogger smacks kubotu | 22:19 | |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: you said in the blog post youve been using it for weeks, are you using alsa, or pulse? and if its pulse, do you have some debs/ppa i can pull to test on my system? | 22:20 |
| kubotu | maybe i can upgrade my system in order to test | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | I did not say no such thing | 22:23 |
| * apachelogger is using gstreamer | 22:23 | |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: oh sorry it was mark that said it | 22:24 |
| * _Groo_ gonna smack mark :D | 22:24 | |
| kubotu | mark) icon" [Low,Assigned] | 22:24 |
| * _Groo_ thinks kubotu is losing its marbles | 22:25 | |
| kubotu | kubotu is back up ~/.kde ~/.local and ~/.confg | 22:25 |
| _Groo_ | i just updated to pulse 0.9.23~git-g51cb-0ubuntu1~maverick1 | 22:25 |
| _Groo_ | and still crashed :P | 22:27 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: the patch wasnt applied upstream? | 22:27 |
| kubotu | I think we should open it up for the patch was removed | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | well | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | it is in the stable-queue | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | whatever that means | 22:29 |
| kubotu | i mentioned this earlier in the disabled case so people know that this is going to update packages, and to end, and got the debdiff between the 4 of us thought we were able to start playing along dangit! I am bad at guessing ETAs | 22:29 |
| kubotu | guess that means someone needs to use as build-dep | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config set markov.probability 5 | 22:29 |
| kubotu | alright | 22:29 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: ok, so im downloading the git repo right now, then i need to cherrypick from the stable-quee branch? or i can just make a deb from the stable-branch? | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | yes. no. | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | it wouldnt be much sru worthy if you take the whole branch | 22:32 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: arrrrgh i hate doing cherrypicking from git | 22:32 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: )(*@#*&@#@(#*&@*(&# | 22:32 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: im already getting the latest git anyway! | 22:33 |
| _Groo_ | 0.2.3 | 22:33 |
| _Groo_ | i mean 0.9.23 | 22:33 |
| kubotu | I had when i run it on my last non-4.6 natty pc didn't give any kdebase related error though, what i mean there was a bug | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: 01101110 01101111 00100000 01110011 01101001 01101100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01110100 01100001 01101100 01101011 | 22:33 |
| _Groo_ | can someone pls shut that bot up! | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | you asked for it! | 22:34 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: he doesnt give me any useful thing i can use in court! | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | no one who could would | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | they are all brain demaged from too much drugs | 22:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: you are alienating the poor bot! hes coherced not to talk! | 22:35 |
| yofel | hm.. | 22:37 |
| yofel | kubotu: shut up | 22:37 |
| kubotu | Update Manager support jaunty yet? | 22:37 |
| yofel | WTH | 22:37 |
| _Groo_ | latest git has the patch applied... creating debs for personal consumption | 22:38 |
| * yofel thinks that some of those drugs found their way to kubotu... | 22:38 | |
| kubotu | think of those are our mobile devices? :P | 22:38 |
| rbelem | :-D | 22:39 |
| ScottK | Anyone around running Natty that can do a little test for me? | 22:41 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: does it involve explosions and mayhem? | 22:42 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Unlikely. | 22:42 |
| ScottK | Worst case is rebooting and adding/removing some packages I think. | 22:42 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: boring.. then no :D | 22:43 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: im not in natty, was just joking | 22:43 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Got 4.6? | 22:43 |
| ScottK | I think that would work. | 22:43 |
| ScottK | In any case, if someone could try adding upower and udisks and removing hal (this will also remove kubuntu-desktop, but don't panic), restart their system and see how solid works, that would be a big help. | 22:44 |
| ScottK | In the event of failure, reinstalling hal and removing udisks/upower should get things back. | 22:44 |
| * yofel goes trying | 22:45 | |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: not 4.6 yet.. i helped with the packaging but i lack the courage to try it this week :D | 22:46 |
| yofel | I can't remove libhal1 though, too much depends on that | 22:46 |
| * apachelogger ponders not handing in the data structure assignment | 22:47 | |
| ScottK | yofel: Not libhal1, just hal. | 22:48 |
| yofel | ScottK: 'hal' removed, rebooting | 22:48 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 22:49 |
| ScottK | I need to run out for a bit, I'll check in when I get back. | 22:49 |
| _Groo_ | guys when i get this error, whats exactly is going on? make: *** [debian/stamp-makefile-install] Error 2 | 22:50 |
| yofel | _Groo_: can you pastebin a bit more of that... | 22:58 |
| yofel | ScottK: nothing that's apparently broken so far | 22:58 |
| yofel | but nepomukfilewatch taking a lot hdd I/O on every login makes logging in painfully slow :( | 22:59 |
| * yofel wonders if the KDE folks want to increase SSD manufactures revenue :/ | 23:00 | |
| _Groo_ | yofel: nvm its was a -j racing condition | 23:01 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: gnome packages dont like to be done in pararel | 23:01 |
| _Groo_ | paralel | 23:01 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i usually disable him | 23:01 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: its common to all file watchers, recoll has the same problem | 23:01 |
| ScottK | yofel: Does power management work? | 23:05 |
| yofel | more or less, powerdevil seems to be running, but I don't have any suspend or hibernate options anymore | 23:07 |
| yofel | battery and AC connectivity are recognised fine though | 23:08 |
| yofel | ScottK: it might break your plasma-netbook/desktop autodetection, since you have lshal in startkde line 237 | 23:12 |
| kubotu | break your system better now? | 23:12 |
| yofel | lol | 23:12 |
| kubotu | lol - well shows I'm losing my mind cant take it that's a good cartton | 23:12 |
| ScottK | yofel: Thanks. | 23:12 |
| yofel | was checking .xsession-errors and that had '/usr/bin/startkde: 244: lshal: not found' | 23:13 |
| ScottK | yofel: Do you have a cdrom or usb stick to check and see if they still work? | 23:15 |
| yofel | not at hand, and won't have time to create one today | 23:16 |
| ScottK | OK | 23:17 |
| ScottK | Thanks for testing. | 23:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ looks like a little startkde fiddling will be needed as well. man udisks seems to indicate this should be doable. | 23:22 |
| yofel | good night | 23:32 |
| * apachelogger transforms into a butterfly | 23:36 | |
| * rbelem grabs a mosquito abatement | 23:39 | |
| rbelem | :-D | 23:40 |
| rbelem | ping apachelogger | 23:40 |
| * apachelogger dances hula | 23:40 | |
| * rbelem hits apachelogger with the mosquito abatement | 23:41 | |
| apachelogger | computer says no | 23:41 |
| rbelem | ;-D | 23:41 |
| apachelogger | *cough* | 23:41 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i added more instructions there | 23:42 |
| rbelem | a brain dump | 23:42 |
| * ScottK hopes it didn't hurt. | 23:43 | |
| apachelogger | rbelem: now I only need to get the n900 | 23:43 |
| * apachelogger thinks there is a good chance it will arrive tomorrow | 23:43 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, tomorrow i will finish the kernel part and then organize the page :-) | 23:43 |
| rbelem | ScottK, there is smoke over my head :-) | 23:44 |
| apachelogger | stop smoking then | 23:44 |
| === mueslix is now known as muesli | ||
| apachelogger | it is unhealthy, dont you know | 23:44 |
| rbelem | eheheheh :-D | 23:44 |
| * rbelem is waiting for his microsd 16gb class 10 that he bought on hong kong via ebay | 23:45 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, do you have a fast microsd? | 23:46 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: no | 23:52 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: should I get one? | 23:52 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, yup | 23:52 |
| apachelogger | ok | 23:52 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, you will need | 23:52 |
| apachelogger | all them requirements | 23:52 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, same spec that said above | 23:53 |
| apachelogger | oh right | 23:53 |
| apachelogger | at the top | 23:53 |
| apachelogger | how unnoticable ^^ | 23:53 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, and a good brand | 23:53 |
| rbelem | kingstone, sandisk are the best afaik | 23:54 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 23:54 |
| rbelem | :-D | 23:54 |
| apachelogger | "This is to inform you that you have won a prize money £250,000.00 pounds in Yahoo/windows live Lottery" | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | omg!!! | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | 250,000 quid, that is like 300000000 euros | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | holy smokes | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | oh | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | dear | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | you got to be kidding me | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | markey: do the gst people always spam around like that? | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | couldnt they write one mail? | 23:56 |
| rbelem | ehehehehe :-D | 23:58 |
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