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xomais anyone here?00:03
James147xoma: yes00:03
xomai need some additional effects in "kwin". Is there some plugins or etc?00:05
rwwIs there a keyboard shortcut (like Win+Left and Win+Right in Windows 7 Aero Snap) for KDE's drag-window-to-side-of-screen-to-snap-it-to-half-the-screen thing?00:08
doswell#ubuntu00:22
xomais there any plugins/additional effects for "kde-window-manager"?00:28
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Magneto_Has any one encountered a problem in installing on the "who are you" screen every thing reads rdy but the forward button you are unable to click it?02:00
Walzmy_why would I not be able to edit a file in my /home that belongs to me?02:03
d_edWalzmy_: options are:02:04
d_ed1) it's not a file02:05
d_ed2) it's not owned by you02:05
d_ed3) it owned by you but you haven't said you can write to it02:05
d_ed4) you're not being you.02:05
Walzmy_d_ed: it's a .jpg I can open and view, it is owned by me02:05
d_edin dolphin, right click->permissions02:05
Walzmy_ok, It was set to Owner can read02:05
Walzmy_not read and write, how weird02:06
d_edit should say Owner: Can read & write02:06
Walzmy_Thanks, I didn't look up at that line02:06
d_edheh, you probably copied it from a read only media02:06
Walzmy_I copied it from a CD, I'm sure that's why it did that02:06
* Walzmy_ nods02:06
d_edyep :-)02:06
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roxywhen going to the next deaktop by screen edges... where do you go to too change it only going left or right... not up and down?02:50
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Dragnslcrroxy- in the Pager widget's settings, try setting the number of rows to 103:09
roxyDragnslcr: thankies! *huggles* :P03:12
DragnslcrHeh, no problem03:12
xomahow i can install new kde 4.6 beta?03:13
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squid134hello03:23
squid134I was on yesterday. I'm having an issue converting ubuntu to kubuntu03:24
jordanok im new to ubuntu04:22
jordani have a couple of questions04:22
sysop1where can I get multisync-tools and related files for maverick?04:23
jordanactally no04:23
sysop1I might be able to help you.04:23
jordanok04:24
sysop1hopefully someone else can help me.04:24
sysop1shoot04:24
jordanhow do i disable kopete for lanching on start up all the time04:24
jordanfrom*04:24
sysop1its propably in your session04:24
sysop1and when you start up it starts up that session.04:24
jordank04:25
sysop1hold on. I think you can now manage session in the control panel.04:25
jordanso start a brand new session04:25
sysop1that would probably fix it.04:25
jordani do have kde 4.5 and maverick04:25
sysop1unless you have actually made it startup up every time.04:25
jordani look everywhere in system setting a cople of hours ago04:26
jordani must have over looked something04:27
sysop1found it04:27
sysop1system admin04:27
jordanok04:27
sysop1startup and shutdown04:27
sysop1session mgt04:27
sysop1choose start with empy session and reboot04:27
sysop1then you can save it again.04:28
sysop1ok I took care of the noobie for you. how about me?04:29
jordani cant find system admin in system settings04:29
sysop1where can I get multisync-tools and related files for maverick?04:29
moetunesthere's a sourforge page for multisync but not much else on google04:29
jordanwhat are you tryin to sync?04:29
sysop1ok you see the search field up at the top04:29
sysop1blackberry to kontact04:30
sysop1I need msynctoool04:30
jordantry to pull all your contacts off?04:30
sysop1yep04:30
moetunestried with bluedevil?04:30
sysop1yea but they dont end up in kontact. you have a howto?04:30
sysop1btw jordan04:31
jordanyes04:31
sysop1type seesion in the search panel on sestem settings04:31
sysop1system settings04:31
sysop1and you will find it.04:31
sysop1thats how I found it.04:31
jordani have a run command but not search04:32
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sysop1hmm you know I have not googled around for bluedevil specifally. let me try that bluedevil works great with my headset.04:33
jordanit didnt find it04:33
sysop1really ?04:33
jordani see where now04:33
sysop1ok cool. I was starting to wonder what version you were on.04:34
jordani do have x session utiliies04:35
DouglasKQuick question... Kopete is asking for me to do a captcha to login to Yahoo!, but it doesn't display the picture I'm supposed to read.  Any ideas?04:36
jordani probably need to find a search program which i havnt been able to find on this04:36
sysop1are you in system settings?04:37
sysop1or somewhere else?04:37
DouglasKHm... looks like an update is available for QT, incl the image libraries.  I'll try that to see if it fixes things.04:38
sysop1there is a search feature in system settings, not a file search04:38
jordani found find/folders and files thank god lol04:38
jordanme?04:38
sysop1yep you04:38
jordanhey i search there didnt find anything with session04:39
sysop1jordan, are you in system settings?04:39
sysop1describe what you see when pull it up.04:39
jordani had a stupid moment04:39
jordank04:39
sysop1np04:40
sysop1it happens to the best of us.04:40
jordansys, i really dont have anything with session on it in setting04:40
jordanill get there04:41
jordanthere04:41
sysop1its under stantup and shutdown04:41
sysop1thats why you wont see it when you open up system settings04:41
jordani get a show up of Session Management04:41
jordanbut it doesnt load04:41
sysop1wierd04:42
jordanwait a mintue is it in startup and shutdown?04:42
sysop1yep04:42
jordanim there now04:42
sysop1cool.04:43
jordani click start a emtry session04:43
sysop1now just choose blank session and reboot then you can put it back on save seession04:43
jordanim a noob04:43
sysop1its ok.04:43
jordanand i just came off opensuse 11.3 lol04:43
jordani miss yast though :(04:44
sysop1i dont04:44
sysop1you will get used to aptitude04:44
jordani swicth to kubuntu cause oepensuse doesnt work well with intelchipsets04:45
jordan11.2 did04:45
jordani dont have croping windows any more lol04:45
jordanchopping*04:45
DouglasKOver all I like ubuntu .. I tend to switch between Gnome and KDE every few months.04:46
jordandoes ubuntu start on a black screen with a undersorce it that normal?04:46
moetunesnope it is not normal04:47
jordancrap04:47
jordanits runing fine lol04:47
jordanprobably bad sector :(04:48
jordanhard drive going out04:48
jordanill run it till it dies04:49
jordanmoe, have anyideas?04:51
DouglasKKopete wants me to do a captcha to login to Yahoo.  It's not displaying the captcha image.  Help?04:52
jordandoug where at?04:53
moetunesjordan:  are you using an ati card?04:54
moetunes*vid04:54
jordani dont know04:54
jordanbut i should know lol04:54
moetuneslspci | grep -i vga   will tell04:54
DouglasKJordan, it pops up a dialog titled "Account verification - Yahoo - Kopete", and says "Your account has to be verified du to too many failed login attempts. Please enter the characters in the picture:"  but there's no picture.04:54
jordanVGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)04:55
jordanno04:55
jordani know what your talking about now04:55
DouglasKI don't mind if it wants a captcha, fine.  but no image is at best annoying.  :)04:56
jordandoug, how long does it take yahoo to unlock your account04:56
DouglasKI can login to the webmessenger without issue.04:56
jordani know thats for brute focre protection04:56
moetunesjordan:  from memory you need a kernel parameter something like i915=nomodeset04:57
jordanmoe, im going to be hoset i dont know what your talking about now lol04:58
moetunesheh04:58
DouglasKas for me ... I have a feeling I'm stumping ppl... I'll reask in an hour or two.04:59
jordandoug, your chat client probably cant get the image04:59
DouglasKjordan: that's my thought as well .. I'll take a look at what it's requesting with only Yahoo enabled.04:59
jordani did some looking around about three weeks ago about yahoo chat05:00
jordanthey have alot of new crap up05:01
jordani dont know if you chat client even works05:01
jordani would have to research it05:01
DouglasKmakes sense.  I'm not reliant on the protocol, but I like to log in to all the accounts so I know who I'm ignoring.05:01
jordanim founding the chat client i used 3 weeks ago05:02
jordanlooking05:02
jordanfounding a incorrect word to use iun that sentence llol05:03
jordanhttp://www.pidgin.im05:03
jordanworked great05:03
DouglasKPidgin is good ... uses libPurple as I recall.  I think I'll be stubborn for a bit and wrestle with Kopete.05:04
DouglasKWhen at work under Windows I run Miranda.  Pain in the ass to configure sometimes, but it's protocols get frequent updates.05:05
jordanim unstalling kopete as we speak lol05:05
jordanits gone05:06
jordanim using quassel05:08
jordani like what http://kubuntuguide.org/Maverick says about it05:08
jordan"Quassel is a cross-platform IRC client currently in development and (for some reason) is now included as the default Kubuntu/KDE client. Based on the Qt platform, there is not yet any DCC implementation (which makes this client limited in usefulness) and it has many bugs. Try Konversation instead05:08
jordan"05:08
FloodBotK2jordan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:08
FloodBotK1jordan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:08
jordanoh crap05:08
DouglasKI'm running Konversation now as occasionally I'll DCC pics to a friend.05:09
jordani see05:09
DouglasKI like Quassel ... I'll put it's server half on my mail server and then use it as a bouncer from multiple sources.05:10
jordani was using xchat05:10
jordani havnt looked for a deb yet05:10
jordankpackage doesnt have it05:10
DouglasKXchat can be installed via Synaptic.05:10
DouglasKsure it does ... lemme look.05:11
jordanill look05:11
jordani didnt see it lol05:11
DouglasKat a prompt run sudo synaptic and search for xchat.  install the real one, not the "gnome-xchat" as the gnome one is dumbed down way to far for me.05:12
jordani see05:12
jmichaelxi know i am possibly interrupting, and have no clue what all has been discussed, but konversation is a nice irc client in my opinion05:14
jordani have no problems with it05:14
DouglasKI like Konversation as well.  I use xChat under Gnome and Windows, Konveration under kde and sometimes under windows too.05:14
jordani would dump them all for better gui lol05:14
poyntzoff a liveCD install of kubuntu sounds is really quiet.. is there a way to fix this?05:15
jmichaelxvery cool... i would not have even known that a windows port of konversation was available05:15
poyntzall volumes are on full btw..05:15
jordanuh05:16
jordanpoy, soo05:16
poyntzoh.. and if i turn up and down volume it doesnt do anything....05:16
jordani dont know05:16
poyntzbut it shows the volume change graphic05:16
jordandid you look in your mixer?05:16
jmichaelxpoyntz: it sounds like you do not have kmix set properly05:16
jordansee what you had muted?05:17
poyntzjmichaelx: how can i fix this?05:17
jordanpoy, are you on it now?05:17
miguelhola05:17
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Guest38709hola05:17
jordanskock caller05:18
jordan20 gag05:18
jmichaelxpoyntz: you will want to go into kmix's settings... 'configure channels' and 'configure kmix'05:18
GabrielYYZpoyntz: open up a konsole, type in "alsamixer" without the quotes and max the volumes you need there, that should do it05:18
jordanuse tab to move05:19
jordanspace bar to unlock'05:19
jordanspace bar for capturing05:19
jmichaelxchecking out alsamixer is good, but it will not fix kmix not having an effect on the volume05:19
poyntzGabrielYYZ: preferably looking for an option which allows me to change volume using keys05:19
GabrielYYZpoyntz: if the alsamixer volumes are down, pumping kmix to max volume will still be quiet05:20
poyntzjmichaelx: no available channels listed..05:20
jmichaelxpoyntz: it may be that you need to change some things in your phonon settings , then05:21
jmichaelxpoyntz: do try alsamixer once.... use F6 to change which audio device to use, until you find one that is working05:21
poyntzoooo nah i think i worked it out....05:21
poyntzok.. the volume is controlled by internal audio analog stereo05:22
jmichaelxthere you go05:22
poyntzbut, when i push up and down on the volume buttons it modifies the RV710 Digital Stereo (HDMI)05:22
poyntzany way to fix this?05:22
jmichaelxpoyntz:  that is apparently what you need to change05:22
jmichaelxpoyntz: phonon settings05:22
jmichaelxgo to system settings>multimedia05:23
poyntzjmichaelx: ok.. this is weird but it says that the Internal Audio Analog Stereo is the default...05:23
jmichaelxthen click on 'phonon'05:23
jmichaelxpoyntz: you may want to individually click each item on the list to make sure that is the default for all of them05:24
poyntzjmichaelx: yep.. default for everything05:24
jmichaelxpoyntz: if that is not the problem, then you need to change the settings in kmis05:24
jmichaelxkmix*05:24
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jmichaelxpoyntz: also... like the others said, see what things look like in alsamixer05:25
poyntzkmix is taking ages to load =S05:25
poyntznope... wont open =S05:25
jmichaelxpoyntz: you realize kmix is just your volume indicator in your system tray05:26
jmichaelx?05:26
jmichaelxpoyntz: it should already be running05:26
poyntzjmichaelx: thanks! fixed05:26
jmichaelxsweet05:26
poyntzjmichaelx: so yaa.. the problem was that it wasnt the default in kmix05:26
jmichaelxyea, that happens sometimes05:27
poyntzjmichaelx: does network management usually support wireless?05:27
jmichaelxpoyntz: it should, if your wireless adapter is supported05:29
poyntzjmichaelx: is there a list of supported wireless adapters?05:30
jmichaelxpoyntz: do you know what adapter you are using?05:30
poyntzjmichaelx: atheros wireless lan05:31
jmichaelxpoyntz: and what is indicating to you that it isn't working?05:31
poyntzjmichaelx: (1) if i unplug the cat cable internet dies. (2) right clicking on network management --> wireless --> add --> scan (yields nothing and there's atleast 4 wireless devices in range on windows 7..05:33
jmichaelxpoyntz: what is the output if you enter 'lspci | grep -i wireless' in a terminal?05:34
poyntznothing05:36
poyntzwait..05:36
poyntzjmichaelx: even if i use an escape char nothin05:36
poyntzgrep doesnt find anything with the '-i'05:37
jmichaelxescape char? all you want to paste into the termal is what was between the single quotes05:37
jmichaelxbut leave the quote marks out05:37
poyntzjmichaelx: without quotes --> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...05:38
poyntzjmichaelx: with quotes ---> (nothing)05:38
jmichaelxpoyntz: if you enter what i had BETWEEN the quote marks, it should list for you your wireless adapter05:38
poyntzohh... i didn't see the wireless bit...05:39
jmichaelxlspci | grep -i wireless05:39
poyntz3:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe05:39
jmichaelxyes... ok that is what we want05:39
jmichaelxand what you have is not atheros05:39
DouglasKOk .. Kopete asks for the user to do a captcha for Yahoo! after it fails to login, but as far as I see, doesn't even TRY to fetch an image.  (watching netstat -t -n -p)05:39
poyntzjmichaelx: is it supported?05:41
jmichaelxpoyntz: i am looking at forum threads relating to your card.... apparently it can be made to work, but doesn't function correctly out of the box05:42
jmichaelxpoyntz: you may need to speand some time in the forums.... it looks like you may have some compiling to do05:46
PeteMhi guys05:48
PeteMCould someone help me with my internet.. doesn't work somehow05:48
jordanhey pete05:48
PeteMEh Jordan05:49
jordanill try05:49
PeteMCool Thanks dude05:49
PeteMI used to do something to get it working a while back but I forgot :(05:49
PeteMJordan: I'm connected with Cat-505:50
jordanlol im already lost05:50
jordanim lookin for help aswel05:50
PeteMlol you are a newbie too?05:50
jordanpretty much05:51
PeteMOk05:51
PeteMThe learning curve is not the same when older!05:51
PeteMWell thanks anyway Jordan05:52
jmichaelxPeteM: what issue are you having?05:52
jordani havnt fool much with computer in about five years05:52
jmichaelxjordan: by CAT-5, he just meant Ethernet05:52
PeteMOh my internet is not working but I am hard wired05:52
PeteMyep05:52
jordani see cat 5 is cable internet05:53
jmichaelxPeteM: your wired internet connection is not working?05:53
PeteMmy browser doesn't work. Nothing seem to work05:53
jordanhey i google it lol05:53
PeteMI guess so05:53
jmichaelxjordan: google knows everything05:53
PeteMCould you please tell me how to check my eth005:53
PeteMstatus05:53
jmichaelxPeteM: you are not on the PC with the network problem at the moment?05:53
jordanyes it does :)05:53
PeteMExactly05:53
DouglasKOk, bug report for Kopete not showing the captcha image was logged in march, confirmed in august.05:53
PeteMI'm on windose right now05:54
PeteMnetstat or something?05:54
PeteMI don't know how to use it05:54
PeteMI'm new too05:54
jordandoug, one of the reason i left opensuse05:54
jmichaelxPeteM: so, on the same machine, if you boot into ubuntu, your network adapter doesn't seem to work?05:55
jordanif you had a intel embed chipset05:55
PeteMjmichaelx: exactly05:55
jordanflash would frezze in fullscreen05:55
jordanbeen like that since 11.3 relese05:55
jmichaelxPeteM: what version of kubuntu are you using?05:55
jordanit maybe awhile05:55
PeteMnot sure05:55
PeteM10.04 I think05:55
jmichaelxPeteM: is this a laptop or a desktop?05:56
PeteMDesktop05:56
PeteMi38605:56
jordan32 bit05:56
jmichaelxPeteM: i am not sure what to say... possibly the easiest solution would be to try an add-in NIC05:57
PeteMjmichaelx: what is that05:57
jmichaelxPeteM: a PCI or PCIe Ethernet adapter05:58
jmichaelxPeteM: it may be that your onboard card could work, but it would be easier to determine that if you were booted into ubuntu, and had a network connection05:59
PeteMoh no it used to work05:59
PeteMI remembered now05:59
PeteMI took a note on this over 6 months ago when I found the solution06:00
jmichaelxwhat was your solution, if i may ask?06:00
PeteMhere it was: sudo dhclient eth006:00
PeteMIf I do that, it used to start the internet06:00
PeteMkick start06:00
PeteMI should say06:00
jmichaelxPeteM: ok.... but that should happen automatically06:00
DouglasKmaybe it was being slow getting the nic up.06:01
PeteMyes I know. Something is weird06:01
jmichaelxPeteM: do you use the network manager?06:01
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PeteMjmichaelx: yep now it's working06:02
PeteMjmichaelx: why is that?06:03
jmichaelxPeteM: no idea, unless at one point yuo changed some settings somehow06:03
PeteMyep, that's me all right06:03
jordanim going ask a qauestion06:04
jmichaelxPeteM: well, remember your command. you might want to make sure things are configured correctly in your network manager..... or you could simply configure your /etc/network/interfaces file, and skip the network manager06:05
jordanwhen my computer is tryin to load i get a balck screen with a underscore06:05
jordaninstead of my bboot loader06:05
jmichaelxjordan: and it goes no further?06:05
jordanactually yes it does06:06
jordanworks fine06:06
jmichaelxjordan: ok, you mean you are not seeing the grub menu?06:06
StepNjumpjmichaelx: It's me, PeteM.. now on linux06:06
jordanall but when i hit ctrl atl and f12 at thr ssame time06:06
jmichaelxStepNjump: awesome06:06
jordanthen i get it again06:06
StepNjumpAnd how would I do this jmichaelx06:06
jordanyes06:06
StepNjumpsorry I'm a newbie06:07
jordani know you can turn it off06:07
jordanjust load drectly06:07
jmichaelxStepNjump: just make sure in the network manager, under wired connections, that it configure to connect to your network using dhcp06:07
jordanbut why do i have a black screen with a under score on it?06:07
jordanalso i have to enable my desktop effect everytime06:08
StepNjumpjmichaelx: let me see06:08
jmichaelxjordan: i am not sure... i have a feeling that if you would hold the shift key down after your machine loads its bios, and is heading to your OS installation, you might see your grub menu06:08
jmichaelxjordan: are you in 10.10?06:09
jordanyes06:09
StepNjumpjmichaelx: To make it even harder, my os is configured to display everything in french!06:10
jmichaelxjordan: what is your output for:        lspci | grep VGA06:10
jordana other guy said a black screen its notmal06:10
jordanitnts*06:10
jmichaelxStepNjump: that is OK.... it will likely still refer to dhcp06:10
StepNjumpin the (what I think is) network manager, it's connected directly (not via proxy)06:10
jordan00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)06:10
jmichaelxjordan: yes, i would not worry about the black screen06:10
StepNjumpjmichaelx: is there a bash shell shortcut I could use to open the network manager?06:11
jordank06:11
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jordanjm, i thought maybe my hard drive was going bad06:11
jmichaelxjordan: i hate to tell you this, but you may want to run 10.04 on that machine..... the drivers for a number of mobile intel graphics cards SUCK in 10.1006:11
jordani would doubt it06:11
jordanive install five different oses on it lol06:12
jmichaelxjordan: i am tellling you, a lot of mobile intel drivers in maverick are absolutely awful06:12
jordanjm, it actually works well06:12
jordanno chopping loads nothing06:13
jordanjust something is disabling my desktop effect every time i load06:13
jmichaelxjordan: one thing you could try, is going to your advanced tab for desktop effects, and tell it to disable functionality checks06:14
jordanwell its a new reles06:14
jordani know06:14
jmichaelxjordan: this problem will not get fixed in this release.... hopefully it will be fixed inthe next06:14
jordanim afraid the computer wont load then06:14
jordanthe last tab06:14
jmichaelxjordan: those functionality checks are just for desktop effects06:15
jordani see06:15
jordani figgured they mod it somewhat06:15
jordanwhat i saw06:15
jmichaelxStepNjump: the only shortcut would be to manually configure /etc/network/interfaces06:15
jordanthe guy said if you cant ctrol/alt/f12 dont click it06:16
jmichaelxStepNjump: and you would probably want to disable the network manager then06:16
jordanand when i do that i get a black screen06:16
jordanwith a blinking underscore06:16
jmichaelxjordan: yea.... this has been a big problem for a lot of people in 10.10. i have 2 machines that have mobile intel video, and i have stayed with 10.04 on those because of this06:17
jordanjm, how do i turn on my boot loader06:18
jordani know i can goole it06:18
jordanbut im downloading firefox now06:18
StepNjump2jmichaelx: I think it will be easier to just install the 10.10 right on top of this one06:18
jordanjm, i see06:18
StepNjump2jmichaelx: do you know a link to give me to provide me with the upgrade steps06:19
jmichaelxjordan: it is always on....    to get to the grub menu, try holding down shift IMMEDIATELT when your machine switched from loading its BIOS, to loading its OS06:19
StepNjump2jmichaelx: The image is so beautiful with the VDI cable... oh gosh.. I should have used this one way before!06:19
jordank06:19
jmichaelxStepNjump2: i do not have a link, but google should provide you with many links for upgrading from lucid to maverick06:19
poyntzwhen desktop effects is enabled in 10.10 64 bit, is a slight lag normal?06:19
StepNjump2ok cool06:20
jordanpoy, i would consider it normal06:20
jmichaelxpoyntz: everything is dependent on multiple factors... not the least of which is your video adapter06:20
jordanpoy, did you try xrendering>06:20
jmichaelxusing xrender might work, but most effects only work under opengl06:21
jordani know06:22
jordanworth a shot06:22
jordani just use the trasparent06:22
jordanthats it06:22
jordanbut i do use opengl06:22
jmichaelxjordan: depending on your setup and your goals, that might be fine06:22
StepNjump2ok.. my big question for tonight is the following: how to change the boot order in grub. I checked on the web and was told to edit in the grub menu: menu.lst however, it doesn't exist!06:23
jmichaelxStepNjump2: you probably encountered instructions for an older version of grub06:23
StepNjump2oh ok06:24
jordanstep, i know the answer to that if you only had yast! lol06:24
StepNjump2yes possible06:24
StepNjump2lol06:24
jordanwait i minute06:24
jordanim thinking about renaming06:24
jmichaelxStepNjump2: are you wanting to change which OS grub loads by default?06:26
StepNjump2windoze unfortunately06:27
StepNjump2unless you can find me the drivers for my ICD-SX25 voice recorder on linux!06:27
StepNjump2http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=ICDSX2506:28
jmichaelxStepNjump2: about that, i would have no clue.... i would suggest google again lol06:29
StepNjump2I use this very extensively but it won't even run on Win7 6406:29
StepNjump2jmichaelx: Might be able to do have it run under wine but linux 32bits06:29
StepNjump2not 6406:30
StepNjump2It's amazing how much waste we do us humans with damn windoze everytime they decide to dump all the peripherals06:30
StepNjump2I came up with a good line: Windoze pollutes!06:31
StepNjump2lol06:31
StepNjump2Trade Mark (StepNjump)06:31
StepNjump2lol06:31
jmichaelxStepNjump2: as far as changing which OS loads by default, it looks like you would have to modify 'GRUB_DEFAULT=' in /etc/default/grub   ... unfortunately, i am not sure what number you will want in the place of the 0 that is there06:31
StepNjump2406:31
StepNjump2but what is the filename06:31
jmichaelxStepNjump2: if you are sure of that, then change the number to 4, run 'sudo update-grub', and reboot06:32
StepNjump2oh cool06:32
StepNjump2grub is the file06:32
StepNjump2awsome. thanks a lot06:33
jmichaelxyes, /etc/default/grub06:33
StepNjump2let me see06:33
jmichaelxStepNjump2: careful, that flood bot might be preparing to bann you06:33
StepNjump2oh ok.. sorry06:35
jmichaelxStepNjump2: just do not enter a bunch of short posts in succession06:36
jmichaelxStepNjump2: please keep in mind when you change GRUB_DEFAULT, the OS numbering will start with 0, not 106:38
StepNjump2jmichaelx: Yep, I figured that one... With these scientific people, you got to think like em.. Thanks a lot my friend. Hope to see you soon. I will let you know through windoze later on if it worked. Good night and thanks a lot for your help06:40
jmichaelxvery welcome!06:41
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PeteMajmichaelx: Yep it worked like a charm! Thanks again a million! Good night to Justin also. CU soon06:54
PeteMjmichaelx: StepNjump here: Yep it worked like a charm! Thanks again a million! Good night to Justin also. CU soon06:56
PeteMJordan.. pardon me06:56
jordanhey07:09
jordanim here07:09
jordanpetem07:09
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bigbrovar.08:06
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mastercactapusCan a bridged interface only operate as fast as the slowest link??08:57
phoenix_firebrdany programmers here?09:04
moetunesthat's a pretty broad question - which language?09:05
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ts2phoenix_firebrd: ask a specific question and get a specific answer09:05
phoenix_firebrdmoetunes: any language that supports linux09:05
phoenix_firebrdts2: any programmer for linux09:06
ts2phoenix_firebrd: why do you want to find a programmer?09:06
phoenix_firebrdif any one here please come to the offtopic channel, there we can talk09:06
jussiphoenix_firebrd: what do you need?09:07
jussi(there are lots of programmers here)09:07
phoenix_firebrdjussi: is it bad to use low level disk access for a program that searches files in a filesystem ?09:08
jussiI dont know.09:10
ts2in general, use as much abstraction as possible09:10
phoenix_firebrdts2: that reduces the speed09:14
ts2phoenix_firebrd: marginally09:14
phoenix_firebrdts2: it takes a program with low level disk access to index filenames just 30 seconds but it takes 3 min for the same program without low level operations09:15
ts2then I guess whatever abstraction you are using is poor09:17
c0sminuhey09:54
c0sminui added kubuntu updates ppa to the package manager and as stupid as i am i did installed everything09:54
c0sminunow when i rebooted kde asks me to log in and then i just get a blackscreen. i did ctrl alt f1 tried few things but im a newbie09:55
c0sminuany advice to recover or repair ?09:55
moetunesc0sminu:  I would check the X log to see why the screen is black, use   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:57
c0sminui looked there and it says something microsoft bla bla bla09:58
c0sminucould not open something starting with microsoft. i would have to reboot again to check exactly. i can do that if its mandatory.09:58
moetunesc0sminu:  that was probably about the mouse at the end of the file - using the cli app less to read the file you start at the top and use the arrow keys to move down the file and q to quit10:00
moetunesc0sminu:  that file is where I would start10:01
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aditi have problem with window size in KDE 3.5. some application have window size that over than monitor resolution. And that window cannot be reduced.10:56
aditanyone can help me?10:56
moetunesadit:  where did you get kde3.5 from?11:03
aditmoetunes: from trinity11:04
moetunesadit:  you might have to ask there about how kde3.5 works with the latest versions of the xserver - as a workaround you can use the alt key with the left mouse button to drag a window around and resize it11:05
aditmoetunes: yes, the window can be dragged with alt key, but the vertical size cannot resized to smaller size.11:09
aditThe application that behave like this is adept and eric11:10
amichairalt + right mouse button does resize (on the axis which the pointer is closer to)11:11
amichairthough if the app itself prevents resizing, I don't see what you can do about it11:12
aditamichair: yes, the app preventing for horizontal resizing.11:12
valorieis adept the old packagemanager?11:13
valorieif so, ugh11:13
amichairyep11:13
valorieI used to hate that thing11:14
amichairit sounds like you still do :-)11:14
valorielol, well, I used to hate kpackagekit too11:14
valorieand now I like it!11:14
valoriein 10.1011:14
valorieit's finally reliable11:14
valoriesynaptic isn't even on my system, and I don't miss it11:15
aditso, i can't do anything with this?11:15
amichairI stick to apt-get, though kpk is really quite alright11:15
valorieI use apt-get if I know the packagename11:15
moetunesadit:  you  could use a newer desktop environment11:16
valoriebut it's nice to be able to search11:16
amichairadit: if you can't change the resolution, and can't resize a window, and the window doesn't fit your resolution... I can't think of a solution11:16
ts2valorie: apt-cache is good for search ;)11:16
valorieeh, it's ok11:16
ts2it's not a whole lot different to what kpk does in the background11:17
valorieright11:17
valorieany reason in particular you are trying to run such an old KDE, adit?11:20
aditKDE4 run slowly in my pc11:21
c0sminusorry i had a crash11:21
c0sminuhow do i go back in time :P11:22
c0sminuon irc11:22
rork!logs | c0sminu11:23
ubottuc0sminu: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/11:24
rorkbut you'll probably have to wait a couple of hours for them to update11:24
rorkadit: be sure your computer specs are ok, then check the system monitor for processes that use a lot of cpu/memory.11:25
amichairc0sminu: it doesn't look like you missed much11:25
c0sminu :P thanks11:28
amichairi have a general q: is it always safe to upgrade packages, which may or may not require restart (of system or app), if I don't intend on performing said restart right afterwards?11:28
amichairor will the system enter some undefined state untill I do?11:28
aditrork: I have a little ram and my video card doesn't supported. i think, i it's better for me kde3 than kde411:28
mellow-brohey i have some problems, when i switch desktop and click a program, it seems to refresh in a blocky way and not all of it always will refresh, until i drag the program around11:29
c0sminuso theres other default packages repair or replace way than the grub way?11:29
aditbut, beside of that, i love kde very much.11:32
c0sminuyou guys say it's better to change to ubuntu ? i was into the small distro but i see that its better for the more stable11:34
poyntzcan someone tell me why i cant install the latest wireless driver ~ http://pastebin.com/68QDrzMD11:38
poyntzhttp://pastebin.com/kmXuEkec ~ try this instead11:40
rorkadit: maybe have a look at lubuntu/lxde, that's set up for low end systems you'll be able to install your favourite kde programs anyway.11:47
moetunespoyntz:  maybe you are missing some dependencies11:49
poyntzmoetunes: do you know what they are?11:57
moetunespoyntz:  no idea at all sorry - check where you got the source11:58
aditrork: i have try lxde,xfce,and enlightment, but i still prefer kde, (and sometimes gnome).12:11
poyntzim looking for the latest driver for the Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD.. where could I find this?12:52
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jameshey13:05
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Guest49120hey13:06
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amichairi have a general q: is it always safe to upgrade packages, which may or may not require restart (of system or app), if I don't intend on performing said restart right afterwards? or will the system enter some undefined flaky state untill I do?13:26
v3nd3tta``lol i got a 1680x1050 60hz screen and a graphics card which supports that, and the screen sows it displays at 60hz but my screen settings say 50hz13:28
sysop1not bad I am stuck at 1280x80013:30
sysop1does anyone have a workaround for the multisync-tools issue yet? its been a couple of weeks and I really need to sync.13:31
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epimethhi guys, I just ran an update and my drivers disapeared13:47
nerdy_kidwhat drivers?13:47
epimethspecifically the nvidia and the wireless... tho for all I know it may be more13:47
nerdy_kidis the hardware working correctly?13:48
nerdy_kid(i.e. are the drivers working even though you cant see them in the list)13:48
epimethI checked the hardware drivers application and saw that they were marked as "not installed" again.... tried installing and was told it failed and to check the jockey log:13:48
epimeth2010-12-01 08:45:07,120 WARNING: modinfo for module wl failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module wl13:49
epimeth2010-12-01 08:45:07,121 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver13:49
nerdy_kidforget jockey for now, does your wireless card work?13:49
epimethThe wireless is definitely not work... no wireless in the network manager13:49
epimethlspci has it, tho13:49
nerdy_kidok, I use the same driver for my card.13:50
nerdy_kidone sec13:50
nerdy_kiddo you remember what was updated?13:50
epimethheh... nope... lots of stuff... generic kernel, xorg, apache...... bunch of libs13:51
epimethwhatever was rolled out in the past week13:51
nerdy_kidhmm is this lucid you are running?13:51
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epimethmaveric13:52
epimethhttp://pastebin.com/dNqNEEwU13:53
nerdy_kidok one sec13:54
epimethnope... xorg was not upgraded13:54
bushwakkohey, I'm having some graphics problems in kde413:54
bushwakkosuddenly all effects is empty and I cannot select opengl, only xrender13:54
nerdy_kidepimeth: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source13:55
bushwakkoany way to reset all that?13:55
epimethnerdy_kid: already installed13:55
nerdy_kidepimeth: ok purge it and reinstall13:56
amichairbushwakko: maybe there's something wrong with your graphics driver as well?13:57
bushwakkomight be13:57
bushwakkobut still strange that all the compiz plugins are gone13:58
epimethnerdy_kid: and then install through jockey or apt?13:58
bushwakkoglxinfo says "direct rendering: Yes"13:58
nerdy_kidepimeth: run the command I gave you, or install it via synaptic it doesn't matter.  not jockey though, its easier to get any error messages with apt/synaptic13:59
epimethok I'll bbs.... notifier told me I should restart13:59
nerdy_kidepimeth: no13:59
nerdy_kidepimeth: dont restart yet....14:00
epimethoh14:00
epimethok14:00
nerdy_kidepimeth: yeah one sec, dont restart quite yet14:00
nerdy_kiddid the install go ok?14:00
epimethok, installed14:00
epimethnow restart?14:00
nerdy_kidno, is your wireless working again?14:00
bushwakkoanyone know how to reset all the display jazz then?14:01
nerdy_kidit should work without a restart.14:01
epimethnope14:01
nerdy_kidepimeth: do sudo modprobe wl14:01
nerdy_kidthen see if it works14:01
epimethnerdy_kid: dude it rebuild the kernel image, don't I have to restart to load it?14:01
epimethnerdy_kid: Module wl not found14:01
nerdy_kidepimeth: you can restart if you want, but you dont need to.  it updated the initramfs, not the kernel.  the kernel can add/remove drivers in realtime.  trust me, I have messed with this card/driver a LOT14:02
epimethnerdy_kid: I trust you :-)14:03
nerdy_kidepimeth: lol thanks, do ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko14:06
epimethnerdy_kid: lolz.... somebody forgot to include kernel headers in the update14:06
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nerdy_kidepimeth: did that command turn give you an error?14:09
epimethnerdy_kid: dkms just reinstalled nvidiaand bcmwl... so, this time modprobe got the card working :-)14:13
nerdy_kidepimeth: ok cool, glad you got it working!14:14
epimethnerdy_kid: sorry for the delay, btw... phone call... and I had told you the modprobe didn't work ... right after I asked if I should restart ;-)14:14
nerdy_kidnp, I actually was referring to this command that you must've missed "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko", and if that didn't work then I was going for dkms next.  but no matter, glad you fixed it :)14:15
epimethall right... I'm gonna put back my old xorg.conf and see if nvidia is working again14:16
epimethnerdy_kid: heh, no... I just installed the kernel headers, didn't even check what you asked....14:17
epimethnerdy_kid: you wouldn't happen to know where I can let the kubuntu packagers that they forgot a very important package?  I figure EVERYBODY'S system is broken now14:18
nerdy_kidepimeth: well I dont think they forgot it, as it was there.  the thing with kernel updates is that you usually need to you synaptic/apt-get to upgrade cause kpackagekit will only upgrade packages that don't require other packages to be removed -- "safe" upgrading it is called.14:20
nerdy_kidif you get a kernel upgrade you need to go a full upgrade, either "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or through synaptic14:21
epimethnerdy_kid: no, the kernel headers weren't installed, just the kernel, otherwise apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) would not have installed them... and apt-get update did not mention the kernel headers waiting to be upgraded either...14:26
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legodudeanyone know of a good replacement for unison for general backup needs14:37
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amichairi have a general q: is it always safe to upgrade packages, which may or may not require restart (of system or app), if I don't intend on performing said restart right afterwards? or will the system enter some undefined flaky state untill I do?14:53
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kerncoWhenever I reboot, desktop effects are suspended and I have to manually turn them back on.16:37
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sresuHow to logout running user account B from current user account A?16:43
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TBstпривет17:34
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phoenix_firebrdhello everyone17:38
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tripphey can anyone help me right quick?18:28
tripphello?18:29
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silentstalkerhello?18:29
silentstalkerhello? can anyone give me some help?18:30
urgenjust ask18:30
urgenit works better that way, ppl are bizi so they take the time when they have it18:31
urgenotherwise you could ask and I'll be gone again already :-)18:31
silentstalkeri just installed kubuntu 10.10 and im having problems with the wireless connection, the wired works fine18:31
silentstalkerbut when i put in the password for the wireless, it just keeps popping up as if the password is wrong18:31
silentstalkeri just installed kubuntu 10.10 and im having problems with the wireless connection, the wired works fine18:45
silentstalkerbut when i put in the password for the wireless, it just keeps popping up as if the password is wrong18:45
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sunny_sllshi everybody19:03
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: make sure that the key type is correct -- there are hex keys and passwords19:03
sunny_sllshey i was trying to restart the plasma-desktop19:03
sunny_sllswhen i got this segmentation fault error19:04
sunny_sllsa bug report window came up saying to report the plasma-desktop crashing19:04
nerdy_kidsunny_slls: yeah those happen now and then19:05
sunny_sllsnerdy_kid, i was building kdebase19:05
sunny_sllswhen it happened19:05
nerdy_kidsunny_slls: ah ok in that case I will shut up :D19:05
sunny_sllsi restarted the plasma-desktop by running "kquitapp plasma-desktop" and then ran plasma-desktop19:06
sunny_sllsand then it threw that error19:06
silentstalkernerdy_kid: ive done both, and it still pops up19:06
silentstalkeri have not found a way to successfully connect to any wireless network19:06
sunny_sllswhy is it happening like that?19:07
sunny_sllsany idea ?19:07
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: I would check how well supported your wireless card is19:09
silentstalkerIntel Centrino Wireless-N 100019:10
mdo-ollantaytambhola19:12
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: are you using 64bit?19:13
mdo-ollantaytamb#jion spain19:13
silentstalker32 bit19:13
mdo-ollantaytambjoin # spain ubuntu19:13
andrew___Hi19:14
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: and the network is using WEP?19:15
silentstalkeryes19:16
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: would you happen to know whether the network you are trying to connect to is a wireless N network?19:17
silentstalkerits a 2wire gateway19:18
nerdy_kidtry these commands without quotes in a terminal:  "sudo modprobe -r iwlagn"  and then "modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=0"19:19
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: ^19:19
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nerdy_kidim sorry, the second command should be "sudo modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=0"19:19
silentstalkeron the second command i recieved this message19:21
silentstalkerFATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.35-23-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlagn.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)19:21
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nerdy_kidsilentstalker: do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf" and tell me if it throws an error19:22
the_cmdlnCan anyone answer a question about running Kubuntu 10.10 on a laptop?19:22
the_cmdlnSpecifically, how do I sleep my laptop if I am not logged in?  Closing the lid doesn't do it.19:22
silentstalker119:23
silentstalkerFATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.35-23-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlagn.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)19:23
silentstalkeroops19:24
silentstalkersorry wron part19:24
silentstalkerls: cannot access /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disablelln.conf: No such file or directory19:24
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: ok one last thing:  do "ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/" and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com and send me the URL19:25
silentstalkernerdy_kid  http://paste.ubuntu.com/538774/19:27
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: ok do sudo "mv /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf ~/Desktop" and reboot the computer, see if that fixes the wireless for you.19:29
silentstalkerit says19:32
silentstalker<silentstalker> FATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.35-23-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlagn.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)19:32
silentstalker* TifrugoNelfrigo has quit (Remote host closed the connection)19:32
silentstalker<silentstalker> oops19:32
silentstalker<silentstalker> sorry wron part19:32
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silentstalker<silentstalker> ls: cannot access /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disablelln.conf: No such file or directory19:32
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nerdy_kidsilentstalker:yeah you want to use pastebin....19:33
silentstalkermv: cannot stat `/etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disablelln.conf': No such file or directory19:33
silentstalker^ thats what it says19:33
silentstalkerlol19:33
silentstalkersorry bout that19:33
nerdy_kidnp ;)19:33
silentstalkeris that what its supposed to say?19:34
nerdy_kidit is intel-5300-iwlagn-disable   11   n.conf notice the 11 not ll. you should just be able to copy and paste the command I gave you into the terminal19:34
silentstalkeroops19:34
nerdy_kidsudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf ~/Desktop19:34
nerdy_kidthat is the correct command19:34
silentstalkerkk no error message so ima reboot19:35
silentstalkerbbs19:35
nerdy_kidyup, good luck19:35
the_cmdlnAnyone? How to get a laptop to sleep from KDM?19:39
nerdy_kidthe_cmdln: you would probably want to post in the forum, I don't think the power manager is even running at that point.  probably requires a good knowlege of the configs.19:41
nerdy_kidcould try #ubuntu too, just dont tell them its KDM -- just the login manager LOL19:41
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the_cmdlnGDM apparently exposes an option to invoke sleep.19:42
silentstalkerhey nerdy kid19:42
silentstalkerstill nothing19:42
the_cmdlnI'll try the forums.19:42
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: is the wireless card active?19:42
silentstalkeryea i can select wireless networks but it gets stuck on the authorization19:42
silentstalkeropens up the KDE daemon19:42
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: idk, I would give wicd a try: sudo apt-get install wicd-gtk19:43
silentstalkerinstalling19:44
nerdy_kidother then that, I don't know sorry.  If wicd won't work either then I would create a thread on ubuntuforums19:44
silentstalkerthanks for your help nerdy kid19:44
nerdy_kidsilentstalker: np, I hope it works :)  I have noticed that kde's network manager can be really picky as to what networks it will connect too, so there is a chance that wicd will work.  good luck :)19:45
silentstalkerthanks you for helpin bro19:45
gher1941does anyone know anything about digikam?19:54
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the_cmdlngher1941: I use it for my photos.19:58
gher1941there is a dependency for it called 'expoblending' and evertime I try to run it I get this error:  This program is required to continue. Please install it from Hugin package provided by your distributor or download and install the source.20:02
gher1941Note: at least, align_image_stack version 0.8 is required.20:02
gher1941where can i download align_image_stack version 0.8?20:02
gher1941i've googled, looked, etc - can't find it20:03
ruahi20:03
gher1941hi20:03
ruai have a problem and tried all methods but i didn't20:04
ruai wanna change dns20:05
sidracerhi, how do i read xfs partition in kubuntu??20:05
ruai used that commands "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf"20:06
ruaand wrote dns numbers20:06
sidraceranyone?20:07
gher1941also - unable to use 'export to flash' utility in digikam...it needs a program called 'simple viewer v1.9x' - any idea where to get that?20:08
ruawhen i tried to save that numbers, it says "you can't save, you have to root"20:08
ruado u help me?20:08
gher1941rua:  I usually edit my connection by right-click on network manager, select my connection, ......20:09
ruai didn't understand what u said20:10
gher1941click the edit button, under ip address select DHCP addresses only, input DNS and save....it will ask you for a password and then re-start connection20:10
ruaha i tried it20:11
gher1941what happened?20:11
ruabut not changed20:11
gher1941so you already re-started your connection, etc.?20:12
gher1941what connection are you using?  ethernet, wireless or pppoe?20:13
ruawireless20:13
gher1941sidracer:  anyone what?20:13
gher1941rua: so you right-clicked on network manager and selected manage connections?20:15
gher1941are you using any special network manager or just the dfault that came with kubuntu?20:16
xomahow to install kde 4.6 beta on kubuntu?20:16
ruano20:16
gher1941no to which one?20:16
ruai select wireless20:17
ruaand then ipv4 settings20:18
ruaand selected only automatic adress20:18
gher1941xoma:  use this ppa at your own risk!!!!    pa:kubuntu-ppa/beta20:18
gher1941*ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta20:19
xomai used. nothing happened...20:19
xomasome packadges were updated? but my kde is still 4.5.320:19
ruaand than i wrote  dns servers20:19
ruathere isn't any problem on that settings20:20
gher1941you put them in and seperated them with a comma?20:20
ruayes20:20
gher1941xome:  these are the complete instructions...you can't just apt-get'it.  you have to build from source:   http://techbase.kde.org/Build_KDE4.6_on_Kubuntu20:23
gher1941rua:20:23
gher1941you stopped, restarted connection after saving changes?20:23
gher1941rua:  try disabling the connection, making the corrections as root and then restarting connection20:27
sysop1wow the bluetooth support in 10.10 is greatly improved. I am able to use both my headseat and mouse with no problems.20:27
ruaty20:27
sysop1still cant sync anything, but baby steps20:28
gher1941rua:  np - i wish i could help more  :)20:28
gher1941sysop1:  really?  i'm going to give it a whirl....brb20:28
sysop1yea20:29
sysop1was using my bluetooth headset, I compeletly set it up throught the gui. in 9.04 I had it working but had to do alot of editing of files and such.20:29
sysop1the mouse gave me a little trouble till I realized I needed to trust it.20:30
sysop1but since then its been working perfectly.20:30
gher1941ok...plugged in bluetooth and icon is up20:30
gher1941so far so good20:31
gher1941ok - went to configure and made it always visible20:32
sysop1make sure you trust it.20:32
sysop1that gave me problems with my mouse till I did that. it would work fine for awhile but if it went into power save mode and I tried to use it again it wouldnt connect on its on again.20:33
sysop1but then I trusted it and it worked no problem.20:33
sysop1microcenter had thses bluetooth mice for $15 awhile back and I had to get one.20:35
sysop1its a little small but really precise.20:35
ruagher1941 thank u very much20:39
ruai changed dns on modem router20:40
ruait is ok now20:40
blackxoredHello guys, what's the default for kubuntu 10.10?20:44
desdenovahi mate. The default what for kubuntu ? :)20:45
desdenovachannel?20:45
moetunesblackxored:  do you mean the default kde version?20:56
blackxoredmoetunes, no I want to want what's the default font20:57
blackxoredIt's ubuntu 9 for me but it was a mixed environment, if that's the same for you as well, i want you guys to recommend me one that looks better, such as droid sans for example20:57
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moetunesI always use monospace...20:59
gher1941yo - sysop121:03
gher1941it worked...the blue tooth stuff actually worked,,,lol.   that's a first21:04
legodudehi everyone, I'm running 64bit and want to install a copy of 10.10 32bit to an external drive, is there any special procedure?21:08
legodudeand I'd rather not reboot to do it21:08
legodudeI think debootstrap will do it, but I'm looking for something simpler21:10
gher1941legodude:  nada on this end21:22
legodudehrm21:23
legodudeI tried putting the iso on a spare part with unetbootin21:23
legodudewon't boot21:23
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fulviociao21:59
francoishi everyone22:00
francoisI'd like to know if anyone has managed to solve the issue with the raster graphic engine and kde openoffice integration ?22:01
francoisat the moment it's crashing for me22:01
francoisand i swear it used to work before upgrading to kde 4.5.322:01
francoisi've been looking at many bug reports and forums and the only "solution" seem to either use the native engine or remove the OO kde integration22:02
Prismatest22:04
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francoisdoes anyone know who's behind the code of openoffice.org-kde packages ?22:27
Walzmy_I'm running 10.04, we've got several kernel updates lately, that just seems odd for a LTS "stable" release22:49
moetunesnot if the releases are bug fixes or security patches22:52
jcgshi :) does anyone know if i can temporarily stop pulseaudio without uninstalling it - sudo service pulseaudio stop just makes it say "pulseaudio configured for per-user sessions" again :(23:07
Rioting_Pacifistjcgs: i don't know much about PA but what does service pulseaudio stop return (without the sudo)23:09
jcgsRioting_Pacifist: same thing :( it just won't die23:09
Rioting_Pacifistif it's just a user process can you kill it using ctrl+esc or pkill ?23:11
jcgsRioting_Pacifist: i tried using kill in the terminal, it just respawns with a higher pid, though23:11
jcgsRioting_Pacifist: same thing with using crtl+esc23:12
Rioting_Pacifistif you use ctrl+esc in tree view what is spawning pa?23:13
jcgsinit23:14
jcgsor, at least init is its parent23:14
jcgsRioting_Pacifist: is that not normal?23:18
nerdy_kidjcgs: do a chmod -x on the pulseaudio binary.  that fixes it.23:19
moetunesmaybe it respawns 'cause alsa is running23:19
Rioting_Pacifisti guess so i don't know much about PA,23:19
jcgsnerdy_kid: brutal, but like it :D23:19
Rioting_Pacifistmoetunes: alsa doesn't run AFAIK23:19
moetunesk23:20
nerdy_kidjcgs: thanks :)  all the other solutions are messy and take to long.23:20
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jcgswell that totally worked :)23:23
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Rioting_Pacifistkde wont accept my password when the screen is locked :?23:37
aDudeCaps-Lock on?23:39
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DarthFrogOr were the CapsLock on when you set the password?23:42
Rioting_Pacifistnah i think it was my shadow file permisions, i use caps-lock as my compose key23:42
kay-ingesysinfo23:43
kay-ingeResuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path23:43
kay-ingeSystem:    Host medionPC Kernel 2.6.35-23-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 10.10 maverick23:43
kay-ingeCPU:       Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (SMP) clocked at 2465.712 MHz23:43
kay-ingeGraphics:  Card nVidia G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] tty res: 207x5423:43
kay-ingeDisks:     HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (60.8% used)23:43
FloodBotK2kay-inge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:43
kay-ingeInfo:      Processes 233 Uptime 1:18 Memory 1099.0/3022.1MB Runlevel 2 Client Quassel [M] v0.7.1 (dist-aa28596) inxi 1.4.823:43
FloodBotK1kay-inge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:43
Rioting_PacifistI messed up my permisions, then i ran dpkg -i on my cache to reinstall everything i assumed it would fix the perms but it hasn't how can i fix this?23:44
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moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  what files have their permissions borked?23:45
Rioting_Pacifistmoetunes: I don't know, can i verify what the permisions should be with dpkg?23:46
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  I would think   ls -l /path   would be the best option23:47
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  what did you change?23:47
Rioting_Pacifistmoetunes: everything i messed up a chown -R , i changed everything back to root.root then reinstalled all my packages but its left /etc in a bit of a mess23:48
Rioting_PacifistI can't manually verify all of /etc because i don't know what it should be23:48
gher1941sysinfo23:51
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  hoe /etc looks here - http://pastebin.com/uHzJYFNy23:51
Rioting_Pacifistmoetunes: thanks, it looks like shadow is the only files that matters, btw your shadow passwords file is world readable which kind of defeats the purpose of it, did you do that or is that the default for ubuntu?23:53
moetunesRioting_Pacifist:  must be the default for Archlinux - I'm on my multimedia box atm23:54
traubisodahi23:55
traubisodaI'm looking for an OSX like dock for kubuntu which can be install from kubuntu repos. any suggestions?(kubuntu10.10)23:56
traubisodainstalled*23:57
Rioting_Pacifisttraubisoda: fancy-tasks , smoth tasks23:58
moetunesthere's docky and awn and lots of others in kpackagekit23:58
traubisodaI'm using awn right now, but I can't open the preferences dialog (i guess because of the gnome depencies)23:58

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