[00:03] <xoma> is anyone here?
[00:03] <James147> xoma: yes
[00:05] <xoma> i need some additional effects in "kwin". Is there some plugins or etc?
[00:08] <rww> Is there a keyboard shortcut (like Win+Left and Win+Right in Windows 7 Aero Snap) for KDE's drag-window-to-side-of-screen-to-snap-it-to-half-the-screen thing?
[00:22] <doswell> #ubuntu
[00:28] <xoma> is there any plugins/additional effects for "kde-window-manager"?
[02:00] <Magneto_> Has any one encountered a problem in installing on the "who are you" screen every thing reads rdy but the forward button you are unable to click it?
[02:03] <Walzmy_> why would I not be able to edit a file in my /home that belongs to me?
[02:04] <d_ed> Walzmy_: options are:
[02:05] <d_ed> 1) it's not a file
[02:05] <d_ed> 2) it's not owned by you
[02:05] <d_ed> 3) it owned by you but you haven't said you can write to it
[02:05] <d_ed> 4) you're not being you.
[02:05] <Walzmy_> d_ed: it's a .jpg I can open and view, it is owned by me
[02:05] <d_ed> in dolphin, right click->permissions
[02:05] <Walzmy_> ok, It was set to Owner can read
[02:06] <Walzmy_> not read and write, how weird
[02:06] <d_ed> it should say Owner: Can read & write
[02:06] <Walzmy_> Thanks, I didn't look up at that line
[02:06] <d_ed> heh, you probably copied it from a read only media
[02:06] <Walzmy_> I copied it from a CD, I'm sure that's why it did that
[02:06]  * Walzmy_ nods
[02:06] <d_ed> yep :-)
[02:25]  * Magneto_ is now away - I dont know what I'm doing right now but it has to be important.
[02:50] <roxy> when going to the next deaktop by screen edges... where do you go to too change it only going left or right... not up and down?
[02:58]  * poyntz - IRC client sponsored by http://www.MaxSpider.com (Instant URL submit and search)
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> roxy- in the Pager widget's settings, try setting the number of rows to 1
[03:12] <roxy> Dragnslcr: thankies! *huggles* :P
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> Heh, no problem
[03:13] <xoma> how i can install new kde 4.6 beta?
[03:23] <squid134> hello
[03:24] <squid134> I was on yesterday. I'm having an issue converting ubuntu to kubuntu
[04:22] <jordan> ok im new to ubuntu
[04:22] <jordan> i have a couple of questions
[04:23] <sysop1> where can I get multisync-tools and related files for maverick?
[04:23] <jordan> actally no
[04:23] <sysop1> I might be able to help you.
[04:24] <jordan> ok
[04:24] <sysop1> hopefully someone else can help me.
[04:24] <sysop1> shoot
[04:24] <jordan> how do i disable kopete for lanching on start up all the time
[04:24] <jordan> from*
[04:24] <sysop1> its propably in your session
[04:24] <sysop1> and when you start up it starts up that session.
[04:25] <jordan> k
[04:25] <sysop1> hold on. I think you can now manage session in the control panel.
[04:25] <jordan> so start a brand new session
[04:25] <sysop1> that would probably fix it.
[04:25] <jordan> i do have kde 4.5 and maverick
[04:25] <sysop1> unless you have actually made it startup up every time.
[04:26] <jordan> i look everywhere in system setting a cople of hours ago
[04:27] <jordan> i must have over looked something
[04:27] <sysop1> found it
[04:27] <sysop1> system admin
[04:27] <jordan> ok
[04:27] <sysop1> startup and shutdown
[04:27] <sysop1> session mgt
[04:27] <sysop1> choose start with empy session and reboot
[04:28] <sysop1> then you can save it again.
[04:29] <sysop1> ok I took care of the noobie for you. how about me?
[04:29] <jordan> i cant find system admin in system settings
[04:29] <sysop1> where can I get multisync-tools and related files for maverick?
[04:29] <moetunes> there's a sourforge page for multisync but not much else on google
[04:29] <jordan> what are you tryin to sync?
[04:29] <sysop1> ok you see the search field up at the top
[04:30] <sysop1> blackberry to kontact
[04:30] <sysop1> I need msynctoool
[04:30] <jordan> try to pull all your contacts off?
[04:30] <sysop1> yep
[04:30] <moetunes> tried with bluedevil?
[04:30] <sysop1> yea but they dont end up in kontact. you have a howto?
[04:31] <sysop1> btw jordan
[04:31] <jordan> yes
[04:31] <sysop1> type seesion in the search panel on sestem settings
[04:31] <sysop1> system settings
[04:31] <sysop1> and you will find it.
[04:31] <sysop1> thats how I found it.
[04:32] <jordan> i have a run command but not search
[04:33] <sysop1> hmm you know I have not googled around for bluedevil specifally. let me try that bluedevil works great with my headset.
[04:33] <jordan> it didnt find it
[04:33] <sysop1> really ?
[04:33] <jordan> i see where now
[04:34] <sysop1> ok cool. I was starting to wonder what version you were on.
[04:35] <jordan> i do have x session utiliies
[04:36] <DouglasK> Quick question... Kopete is asking for me to do a captcha to login to Yahoo!, but it doesn't display the picture I'm supposed to read.  Any ideas?
[04:36] <jordan> i probably need to find a search program which i havnt been able to find on this
[04:37] <sysop1> are you in system settings?
[04:37] <sysop1> or somewhere else?
[04:38] <DouglasK> Hm... looks like an update is available for QT, incl the image libraries.  I'll try that to see if it fixes things.
[04:38] <sysop1> there is a search feature in system settings, not a file search
[04:38] <jordan> i found find/folders and files thank god lol
[04:38] <jordan> me?
[04:38] <sysop1> yep you
[04:39] <jordan> hey i search there didnt find anything with session
[04:39] <sysop1> jordan, are you in system settings?
[04:39] <sysop1> describe what you see when pull it up.
[04:39] <jordan> i had a stupid moment
[04:39] <jordan> k
[04:40] <sysop1> np
[04:40] <sysop1> it happens to the best of us.
[04:40] <jordan> sys, i really dont have anything with session on it in setting
[04:41] <jordan> ill get there
[04:41] <jordan> there
[04:41] <sysop1> its under stantup and shutdown
[04:41] <sysop1> thats why you wont see it when you open up system settings
[04:41] <jordan> i get a show up of Session Management
[04:41] <jordan> but it doesnt load
[04:42] <sysop1> wierd
[04:42] <jordan> wait a mintue is it in startup and shutdown?
[04:42] <sysop1> yep
[04:42] <jordan> im there now
[04:43] <sysop1> cool.
[04:43] <jordan> i click start a emtry session
[04:43] <sysop1> now just choose blank session and reboot then you can put it back on save seession
[04:43] <jordan> im a noob
[04:43] <sysop1> its ok.
[04:43] <jordan> and i just came off opensuse 11.3 lol
[04:44] <jordan> i miss yast though :(
[04:44] <sysop1> i dont
[04:44] <sysop1> you will get used to aptitude
[04:45] <jordan> i swicth to kubuntu cause oepensuse doesnt work well with intelchipsets
[04:45] <jordan> 11.2 did
[04:45] <jordan> i dont have croping windows any more lol
[04:45] <jordan> chopping*
[04:46] <DouglasK> Over all I like ubuntu .. I tend to switch between Gnome and KDE every few months.
[04:46] <jordan> does ubuntu start on a black screen with a undersorce it that normal?
[04:47] <moetunes> nope it is not normal
[04:47] <jordan> crap
[04:47] <jordan> its runing fine lol
[04:48] <jordan> probably bad sector :(
[04:48] <jordan> hard drive going out
[04:49] <jordan> ill run it till it dies
[04:51] <jordan> moe, have anyideas?
[04:52] <DouglasK> Kopete wants me to do a captcha to login to Yahoo.  It's not displaying the captcha image.  Help?
[04:53] <jordan> doug where at?
[04:54] <moetunes> jordan:  are you using an ati card?
[04:54] <moetunes> *vid
[04:54] <jordan> i dont know
[04:54] <jordan> but i should know lol
[04:54] <moetunes> lspci | grep -i vga   will tell
[04:54] <DouglasK> Jordan, it pops up a dialog titled "Account verification - Yahoo - Kopete", and says "Your account has to be verified du to too many failed login attempts. Please enter the characters in the picture:"  but there's no picture.
[04:55] <jordan> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[04:55] <jordan> no
[04:55] <jordan> i know what your talking about now
[04:56] <DouglasK> I don't mind if it wants a captcha, fine.  but no image is at best annoying.  :)
[04:56] <jordan> doug, how long does it take yahoo to unlock your account
[04:56] <DouglasK> I can login to the webmessenger without issue.
[04:56] <jordan> i know thats for brute focre protection
[04:57] <moetunes> jordan:  from memory you need a kernel parameter something like i915=nomodeset
[04:58] <jordan> moe, im going to be hoset i dont know what your talking about now lol
[04:58] <moetunes> heh
[04:59] <DouglasK> as for me ... I have a feeling I'm stumping ppl... I'll reask in an hour or two.
[04:59] <jordan> doug, your chat client probably cant get the image
[04:59] <DouglasK> jordan: that's my thought as well .. I'll take a look at what it's requesting with only Yahoo enabled.
[05:00] <jordan> i did some looking around about three weeks ago about yahoo chat
[05:01] <jordan> they have alot of new crap up
[05:01] <jordan> i dont know if you chat client even works
[05:01] <jordan> i would have to research it
[05:01] <DouglasK> makes sense.  I'm not reliant on the protocol, but I like to log in to all the accounts so I know who I'm ignoring.
[05:02] <jordan> im founding the chat client i used 3 weeks ago
[05:02] <jordan> looking
[05:03] <jordan> founding a incorrect word to use iun that sentence llol
[05:03] <jordan> http://www.pidgin.im
[05:03] <jordan> worked great
[05:04] <DouglasK> Pidgin is good ... uses libPurple as I recall.  I think I'll be stubborn for a bit and wrestle with Kopete.
[05:05] <DouglasK> When at work under Windows I run Miranda.  Pain in the ass to configure sometimes, but it's protocols get frequent updates.
[05:05] <jordan> im unstalling kopete as we speak lol
[05:06] <jordan> its gone
[05:08] <jordan> im using quassel
[05:08] <jordan> i like what http://kubuntuguide.org/Maverick says about it
[05:08] <jordan> "Quassel is a cross-platform IRC client currently in development and (for some reason) is now included as the default Kubuntu/KDE client. Based on the Qt platform, there is not yet any DCC implementation (which makes this client limited in usefulness) and it has many bugs. Try Konversation instead
[05:08] <jordan> "
[05:08] <FloodBotK2> jordan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <FloodBotK1> jordan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <jordan> oh crap
[05:09] <DouglasK> I'm running Konversation now as occasionally I'll DCC pics to a friend.
[05:09] <jordan> i see
[05:10] <DouglasK> I like Quassel ... I'll put it's server half on my mail server and then use it as a bouncer from multiple sources.
[05:10] <jordan> i was using xchat
[05:10] <jordan> i havnt looked for a deb yet
[05:10] <jordan> kpackage doesnt have it
[05:10] <DouglasK> Xchat can be installed via Synaptic.
[05:11] <DouglasK> sure it does ... lemme look.
[05:11] <jordan> ill look
[05:11] <jordan> i didnt see it lol
[05:12] <DouglasK> at a prompt run sudo synaptic and search for xchat.  install the real one, not the "gnome-xchat" as the gnome one is dumbed down way to far for me.
[05:12] <jordan> i see
[05:14] <jmichaelx> i know i am possibly interrupting, and have no clue what all has been discussed, but konversation is a nice irc client in my opinion
[05:14] <jordan> i have no problems with it
[05:14] <DouglasK> I like Konversation as well.  I use xChat under Gnome and Windows, Konveration under kde and sometimes under windows too.
[05:14] <jordan> i would dump them all for better gui lol
[05:15] <poyntz> off a liveCD install of kubuntu sounds is really quiet.. is there a way to fix this?
[05:15] <jmichaelx> very cool... i would not have even known that a windows port of konversation was available
[05:15] <poyntz> all volumes are on full btw..
[05:16] <jordan> uh
[05:16] <jordan> poy, soo
[05:16] <poyntz> oh.. and if i turn up and down volume it doesnt do anything....
[05:16] <jordan> i dont know
[05:16] <poyntz> but it shows the volume change graphic
[05:16] <jordan> did you look in your mixer?
[05:16] <jmichaelx> poyntz: it sounds like you do not have kmix set properly
[05:17] <jordan> see what you had muted?
[05:17] <poyntz> jmichaelx: how can i fix this?
[05:17] <jordan> poy, are you on it now?
[05:17] <miguel> hola
[05:17] <Guest38709> hola
[05:18] <jordan> skock caller
[05:18] <jordan> 20 gag
[05:18] <jmichaelx> poyntz: you will want to go into kmix's settings... 'configure channels' and 'configure kmix'
[05:18] <GabrielYYZ> poyntz: open up a konsole, type in "alsamixer" without the quotes and max the volumes you need there, that should do it
[05:19] <jordan> use tab to move
[05:19] <jordan> space bar to unlock'
[05:19] <jordan> space bar for capturing
[05:19] <jmichaelx> checking out alsamixer is good, but it will not fix kmix not having an effect on the volume
[05:19] <poyntz> GabrielYYZ: preferably looking for an option which allows me to change volume using keys
[05:20] <GabrielYYZ> poyntz: if the alsamixer volumes are down, pumping kmix to max volume will still be quiet
[05:20] <poyntz> jmichaelx: no available channels listed..
[05:21] <jmichaelx> poyntz: it may be that you need to change some things in your phonon settings , then
[05:21] <jmichaelx> poyntz: do try alsamixer once.... use F6 to change which audio device to use, until you find one that is working
[05:21] <poyntz> oooo nah i think i worked it out....
[05:22] <poyntz> ok.. the volume is controlled by internal audio analog stereo
[05:22] <jmichaelx> there you go
[05:22] <poyntz> but, when i push up and down on the volume buttons it modifies the RV710 Digital Stereo (HDMI)
[05:22] <poyntz> any way to fix this?
[05:22] <jmichaelx> poyntz:  that is apparently what you need to change
[05:22] <jmichaelx> poyntz: phonon settings
[05:23] <jmichaelx> go to system settings>multimedia
[05:23] <poyntz> jmichaelx: ok.. this is weird but it says that the Internal Audio Analog Stereo is the default...
[05:23] <jmichaelx> then click on 'phonon'
[05:24] <jmichaelx> poyntz: you may want to individually click each item on the list to make sure that is the default for all of them
[05:24] <poyntz> jmichaelx: yep.. default for everything
[05:24] <jmichaelx> poyntz: if that is not the problem, then you need to change the settings in kmis
[05:24] <jmichaelx> kmix*
[05:25] <jmichaelx> poyntz: also... like the others said, see what things look like in alsamixer
[05:25] <poyntz> kmix is taking ages to load =S
[05:25] <poyntz> nope... wont open =S
[05:26] <jmichaelx> poyntz: you realize kmix is just your volume indicator in your system tray
[05:26] <jmichaelx> ?
[05:26] <jmichaelx> poyntz: it should already be running
[05:26] <poyntz> jmichaelx: thanks! fixed
[05:26] <jmichaelx> sweet
[05:26] <poyntz> jmichaelx: so yaa.. the problem was that it wasnt the default in kmix
[05:27] <jmichaelx> yea, that happens sometimes
[05:27] <poyntz> jmichaelx: does network management usually support wireless?
[05:29] <jmichaelx> poyntz: it should, if your wireless adapter is supported
[05:30] <poyntz> jmichaelx: is there a list of supported wireless adapters?
[05:30] <jmichaelx> poyntz: do you know what adapter you are using?
[05:31] <poyntz> jmichaelx: atheros wireless lan
[05:31] <jmichaelx> poyntz: and what is indicating to you that it isn't working?
[05:33] <poyntz> jmichaelx: (1) if i unplug the cat cable internet dies. (2) right clicking on network management --> wireless --> add --> scan (yields nothing and there's atleast 4 wireless devices in range on windows 7..
[05:34] <jmichaelx> poyntz: what is the output if you enter 'lspci | grep -i wireless' in a terminal?
[05:36] <poyntz> nothing
[05:36] <poyntz> wait..
[05:36] <poyntz> jmichaelx: even if i use an escape char nothin
[05:37] <poyntz> grep doesnt find anything with the '-i'
[05:37] <jmichaelx> escape char? all you want to paste into the termal is what was between the single quotes
[05:37] <jmichaelx> but leave the quote marks out
[05:38] <poyntz> jmichaelx: without quotes --> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[05:38] <poyntz> jmichaelx: with quotes ---> (nothing)
[05:38] <jmichaelx> poyntz: if you enter what i had BETWEEN the quote marks, it should list for you your wireless adapter
[05:39] <poyntz> ohh... i didn't see the wireless bit...
[05:39] <jmichaelx> lspci | grep -i wireless
[05:39] <poyntz> 3:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[05:39] <jmichaelx> yes... ok that is what we want
[05:39] <jmichaelx> and what you have is not atheros
[05:39] <DouglasK> Ok .. Kopete asks for the user to do a captcha for Yahoo! after it fails to login, but as far as I see, doesn't even TRY to fetch an image.  (watching netstat -t -n -p)
[05:41] <poyntz> jmichaelx: is it supported?
[05:42] <jmichaelx> poyntz: i am looking at forum threads relating to your card.... apparently it can be made to work, but doesn't function correctly out of the box
[05:46] <jmichaelx> poyntz: you may need to speand some time in the forums.... it looks like you may have some compiling to do
[05:48] <PeteM> hi guys
[05:48] <PeteM> Could someone help me with my internet.. doesn't work somehow
[05:48] <jordan> hey pete
[05:49] <PeteM> Eh Jordan
[05:49] <jordan> ill try
[05:49] <PeteM> Cool Thanks dude
[05:49] <PeteM> I used to do something to get it working a while back but I forgot :(
[05:50] <PeteM> Jordan: I'm connected with Cat-5
[05:50] <jordan> lol im already lost
[05:50] <jordan> im lookin for help aswel
[05:50] <PeteM> lol you are a newbie too?
[05:51] <jordan> pretty much
[05:51] <PeteM> Ok
[05:51] <PeteM> The learning curve is not the same when older!
[05:52] <PeteM> Well thanks anyway Jordan
[05:52] <jmichaelx> PeteM: what issue are you having?
[05:52] <jordan> i havnt fool much with computer in about five years
[05:52] <jmichaelx> jordan: by CAT-5, he just meant Ethernet
[05:52] <PeteM> Oh my internet is not working but I am hard wired
[05:52] <PeteM> yep
[05:53] <jordan> i see cat 5 is cable internet
[05:53] <jmichaelx> PeteM: your wired internet connection is not working?
[05:53] <PeteM> my browser doesn't work. Nothing seem to work
[05:53] <jordan> hey i google it lol
[05:53] <PeteM> I guess so
[05:53] <jmichaelx> jordan: google knows everything
[05:53] <PeteM> Could you please tell me how to check my eth0
[05:53] <PeteM> status
[05:53] <jmichaelx> PeteM: you are not on the PC with the network problem at the moment?
[05:53] <jordan> yes it does :)
[05:53] <PeteM> Exactly
[05:53] <DouglasK> Ok, bug report for Kopete not showing the captcha image was logged in march, confirmed in august.
[05:54] <PeteM> I'm on windose right now
[05:54] <PeteM> netstat or something?
[05:54] <PeteM> I don't know how to use it
[05:54] <PeteM> I'm new too
[05:54] <jordan> doug, one of the reason i left opensuse
[05:55] <jmichaelx> PeteM: so, on the same machine, if you boot into ubuntu, your network adapter doesn't seem to work?
[05:55] <jordan> if you had a intel embed chipset
[05:55] <PeteM> jmichaelx: exactly
[05:55] <jordan> flash would frezze in fullscreen
[05:55] <jordan> been like that since 11.3 relese
[05:55] <jmichaelx> PeteM: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[05:55] <jordan> it maybe awhile
[05:55] <PeteM> not sure
[05:55] <PeteM> 10.04 I think
[05:56] <jmichaelx> PeteM: is this a laptop or a desktop?
[05:56] <PeteM> Desktop
[05:56] <PeteM> i386
[05:56] <jordan> 32 bit
[05:57] <jmichaelx> PeteM: i am not sure what to say... possibly the easiest solution would be to try an add-in NIC
[05:57] <PeteM> jmichaelx: what is that
[05:58] <jmichaelx> PeteM: a PCI or PCIe Ethernet adapter
[05:59] <jmichaelx> PeteM: it may be that your onboard card could work, but it would be easier to determine that if you were booted into ubuntu, and had a network connection
[05:59] <PeteM> oh no it used to work
[05:59] <PeteM> I remembered now
[06:00] <PeteM> I took a note on this over 6 months ago when I found the solution
[06:00] <jmichaelx> what was your solution, if i may ask?
[06:00] <PeteM> here it was: sudo dhclient eth0
[06:00] <PeteM> If I do that, it used to start the internet
[06:00] <PeteM> kick start
[06:00] <PeteM> I should say
[06:00] <jmichaelx> PeteM: ok.... but that should happen automatically
[06:01] <DouglasK> maybe it was being slow getting the nic up.
[06:01] <PeteM> yes I know. Something is weird
[06:01] <jmichaelx> PeteM: do you use the network manager?
[06:02]  * DouglasK wanders off (bed)
[06:02] <PeteM> jmichaelx: yep now it's working
[06:03] <PeteM> jmichaelx: why is that?
[06:03] <jmichaelx> PeteM: no idea, unless at one point yuo changed some settings somehow
[06:03] <PeteM> yep, that's me all right
[06:04] <jordan> im going ask a qauestion
[06:05] <jmichaelx> PeteM: well, remember your command. you might want to make sure things are configured correctly in your network manager..... or you could simply configure your /etc/network/interfaces file, and skip the network manager
[06:05] <jordan> when my computer is tryin to load i get a balck screen with a underscore
[06:05] <jordan> instead of my bboot loader
[06:05] <jmichaelx> jordan: and it goes no further?
[06:06] <jordan> actually yes it does
[06:06] <jordan> works fine
[06:06] <jmichaelx> jordan: ok, you mean you are not seeing the grub menu?
[06:06] <StepNjump> jmichaelx: It's me, PeteM.. now on linux
[06:06] <jordan> all but when i hit ctrl atl and f12 at thr ssame time
[06:06] <jmichaelx> StepNjump: awesome
[06:06] <jordan> then i get it again
[06:06] <StepNjump> And how would I do this jmichaelx
[06:06] <jordan> yes
[06:07] <StepNjump> sorry I'm a newbie
[06:07] <jordan> i know you can turn it off
[06:07] <jordan> just load drectly
[06:07] <jmichaelx> StepNjump: just make sure in the network manager, under wired connections, that it configure to connect to your network using dhcp
[06:07] <jordan> but why do i have a black screen with a under score on it?
[06:08] <jordan> also i have to enable my desktop effect everytime
[06:08] <StepNjump> jmichaelx: let me see
[06:08] <jmichaelx> jordan: i am not sure... i have a feeling that if you would hold the shift key down after your machine loads its bios, and is heading to your OS installation, you might see your grub menu
[06:09] <jmichaelx> jordan: are you in 10.10?
[06:09] <jordan> yes
[06:10] <StepNjump> jmichaelx: To make it even harder, my os is configured to display everything in french!
[06:10] <jmichaelx> jordan: what is your output for:        lspci | grep VGA
[06:10] <jordan> a other guy said a black screen its notmal
[06:10] <jordan> itnts*
[06:10] <jmichaelx> StepNjump: that is OK.... it will likely still refer to dhcp
[06:10] <StepNjump> in the (what I think is) network manager, it's connected directly (not via proxy)
[06:10] <jordan> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[06:10] <jmichaelx> jordan: yes, i would not worry about the black screen
[06:11] <StepNjump> jmichaelx: is there a bash shell shortcut I could use to open the network manager?
[06:11] <jordan> k
[06:11] <jordan> jm, i thought maybe my hard drive was going bad
[06:11] <jmichaelx> jordan: i hate to tell you this, but you may want to run 10.04 on that machine..... the drivers for a number of mobile intel graphics cards SUCK in 10.10
[06:11] <jordan> i would doubt it
[06:12] <jordan> ive install five different oses on it lol
[06:12] <jmichaelx> jordan: i am tellling you, a lot of mobile intel drivers in maverick are absolutely awful
[06:12] <jordan> jm, it actually works well
[06:13] <jordan> no chopping loads nothing
[06:13] <jordan> just something is disabling my desktop effect every time i load
[06:14] <jmichaelx> jordan: one thing you could try, is going to your advanced tab for desktop effects, and tell it to disable functionality checks
[06:14] <jordan> well its a new reles
[06:14] <jordan> i know
[06:14] <jmichaelx> jordan: this problem will not get fixed in this release.... hopefully it will be fixed inthe next
[06:14] <jordan> im afraid the computer wont load then
[06:14] <jordan> the last tab
[06:15] <jmichaelx> jordan: those functionality checks are just for desktop effects
[06:15] <jordan> i see
[06:15] <jordan> i figgured they mod it somewhat
[06:15] <jordan> what i saw
[06:15] <jmichaelx> StepNjump: the only shortcut would be to manually configure /etc/network/interfaces
[06:16] <jordan> the guy said if you cant ctrol/alt/f12 dont click it
[06:16] <jmichaelx> StepNjump: and you would probably want to disable the network manager then
[06:16] <jordan> and when i do that i get a black screen
[06:16] <jordan> with a blinking underscore
[06:17] <jmichaelx> jordan: yea.... this has been a big problem for a lot of people in 10.10. i have 2 machines that have mobile intel video, and i have stayed with 10.04 on those because of this
[06:18] <jordan> jm, how do i turn on my boot loader
[06:18] <jordan> i know i can goole it
[06:18] <jordan> but im downloading firefox now
[06:18] <StepNjump2> jmichaelx: I think it will be easier to just install the 10.10 right on top of this one
[06:18] <jordan> jm, i see
[06:19] <StepNjump2> jmichaelx: do you know a link to give me to provide me with the upgrade steps
[06:19] <jmichaelx> jordan: it is always on....    to get to the grub menu, try holding down shift IMMEDIATELT when your machine switched from loading its BIOS, to loading its OS
[06:19] <StepNjump2> jmichaelx: The image is so beautiful with the VDI cable... oh gosh.. I should have used this one way before!
[06:19] <jordan> k
[06:19] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: i do not have a link, but google should provide you with many links for upgrading from lucid to maverick
[06:19] <poyntz> when desktop effects is enabled in 10.10 64 bit, is a slight lag normal?
[06:20] <StepNjump2> ok cool
[06:20] <jordan> poy, i would consider it normal
[06:20] <jmichaelx> poyntz: everything is dependent on multiple factors... not the least of which is your video adapter
[06:20] <jordan> poy, did you try xrendering>
[06:21] <jmichaelx> using xrender might work, but most effects only work under opengl
[06:22] <jordan> i know
[06:22] <jordan> worth a shot
[06:22] <jordan> i just use the trasparent
[06:22] <jordan> thats it
[06:22] <jordan> but i do use opengl
[06:22] <jmichaelx> jordan: depending on your setup and your goals, that might be fine
[06:23] <StepNjump2> ok.. my big question for tonight is the following: how to change the boot order in grub. I checked on the web and was told to edit in the grub menu: menu.lst however, it doesn't exist!
[06:23] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: you probably encountered instructions for an older version of grub
[06:24] <StepNjump2> oh ok
[06:24] <jordan> step, i know the answer to that if you only had yast! lol
[06:24] <StepNjump2> yes possible
[06:24] <StepNjump2> lol
[06:24] <jordan> wait i minute
[06:24] <jordan> im thinking about renaming
[06:26] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: are you wanting to change which OS grub loads by default?
[06:27] <StepNjump2> windoze unfortunately
[06:27] <StepNjump2> unless you can find me the drivers for my ICD-SX25 voice recorder on linux!
[06:28] <StepNjump2> http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=ICDSX25
[06:29] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: about that, i would have no clue.... i would suggest google again lol
[06:29] <StepNjump2> I use this very extensively but it won't even run on Win7 64
[06:29] <StepNjump2> jmichaelx: Might be able to do have it run under wine but linux 32bits
[06:30] <StepNjump2> not 64
[06:30] <StepNjump2> It's amazing how much waste we do us humans with damn windoze everytime they decide to dump all the peripherals
[06:31] <StepNjump2> I came up with a good line: Windoze pollutes!
[06:31] <StepNjump2> lol
[06:31] <StepNjump2> Trade Mark (StepNjump)
[06:31] <StepNjump2> lol
[06:31] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: as far as changing which OS loads by default, it looks like you would have to modify 'GRUB_DEFAULT=' in /etc/default/grub   ... unfortunately, i am not sure what number you will want in the place of the 0 that is there
[06:31] <StepNjump2> 4
[06:31] <StepNjump2> but what is the filename
[06:32] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: if you are sure of that, then change the number to 4, run 'sudo update-grub', and reboot
[06:32] <StepNjump2> oh cool
[06:32] <StepNjump2> grub is the file
[06:33] <StepNjump2> awsome. thanks a lot
[06:33] <jmichaelx> yes, /etc/default/grub
[06:33] <StepNjump2> let me see
[06:33] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: careful, that flood bot might be preparing to bann you
[06:35] <StepNjump2> oh ok.. sorry
[06:36] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: just do not enter a bunch of short posts in succession
[06:38] <jmichaelx> StepNjump2: please keep in mind when you change GRUB_DEFAULT, the OS numbering will start with 0, not 1
[06:40] <StepNjump2> jmichaelx: Yep, I figured that one... With these scientific people, you got to think like em.. Thanks a lot my friend. Hope to see you soon. I will let you know through windoze later on if it worked. Good night and thanks a lot for your help
[06:41] <jmichaelx> very welcome!
[06:54] <PeteMa> jmichaelx: Yep it worked like a charm! Thanks again a million! Good night to Justin also. CU soon
[06:56] <PeteM> jmichaelx: StepNjump here: Yep it worked like a charm! Thanks again a million! Good night to Justin also. CU soon
[06:56] <PeteM> Jordan.. pardon me
[07:09] <jordan> hey
[07:09] <jordan> im here
[07:09] <jordan> petem
[07:22] <yangb> 1
[07:22] <yangb> hi
[08:06] <bigbrovar> .
[08:57] <mastercactapus> Can a bridged interface only operate as fast as the slowest link??
[09:04] <phoenix_firebrd> any programmers here?
[09:05] <moetunes> that's a pretty broad question - which language?
[09:05] <ts2> phoenix_firebrd: ask a specific question and get a specific answer
[09:05] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: any language that supports linux
[09:06] <phoenix_firebrd> ts2: any programmer for linux
[09:06] <ts2> phoenix_firebrd: why do you want to find a programmer?
[09:06] <phoenix_firebrd> if any one here please come to the offtopic channel, there we can talk
[09:07] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: what do you need?
[09:07] <jussi> (there are lots of programmers here)
[09:08] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: is it bad to use low level disk access for a program that searches files in a filesystem ?
[09:10] <jussi> I dont know.
[09:10] <ts2> in general, use as much abstraction as possible
[09:14] <phoenix_firebrd> ts2: that reduces the speed
[09:14] <ts2> phoenix_firebrd: marginally
[09:15] <phoenix_firebrd> ts2: it takes a program with low level disk access to index filenames just 30 seconds but it takes 3 min for the same program without low level operations
[09:17] <ts2> then I guess whatever abstraction you are using is poor
[09:54] <c0sminu> hey
[09:54] <c0sminu> i added kubuntu updates ppa to the package manager and as stupid as i am i did installed everything
[09:55] <c0sminu> now when i rebooted kde asks me to log in and then i just get a blackscreen. i did ctrl alt f1 tried few things but im a newbie
[09:55] <c0sminu> any advice to recover or repair ?
[09:57] <moetunes> c0sminu:  I would check the X log to see why the screen is black, use   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:58] <c0sminu> i looked there and it says something microsoft bla bla bla
[09:58] <c0sminu> could not open something starting with microsoft. i would have to reboot again to check exactly. i can do that if its mandatory.
[10:00] <moetunes> c0sminu:  that was probably about the mouse at the end of the file - using the cli app less to read the file you start at the top and use the arrow keys to move down the file and q to quit
[10:01] <moetunes> c0sminu:  that file is where I would start
[10:56] <adit> i have problem with window size in KDE 3.5. some application have window size that over than monitor resolution. And that window cannot be reduced.
[10:56] <adit> anyone can help me?
[11:03] <moetunes> adit:  where did you get kde3.5 from?
[11:04] <adit> moetunes: from trinity
[11:05] <moetunes> adit:  you might have to ask there about how kde3.5 works with the latest versions of the xserver - as a workaround you can use the alt key with the left mouse button to drag a window around and resize it
[11:09] <adit> moetunes: yes, the window can be dragged with alt key, but the vertical size cannot resized to smaller size.
[11:10] <adit> The application that behave like this is adept and eric
[11:11] <amichair> alt + right mouse button does resize (on the axis which the pointer is closer to)
[11:12] <amichair> though if the app itself prevents resizing, I don't see what you can do about it
[11:12] <adit> amichair: yes, the app preventing for horizontal resizing.
[11:13] <valorie> is adept the old packagemanager?
[11:13] <valorie> if so, ugh
[11:13] <amichair> yep
[11:14] <valorie> I used to hate that thing
[11:14] <amichair> it sounds like you still do :-)
[11:14] <valorie> lol, well, I used to hate kpackagekit too
[11:14] <valorie> and now I like it!
[11:14] <valorie> in 10.10
[11:14] <valorie> it's finally reliable
[11:15] <valorie> synaptic isn't even on my system, and I don't miss it
[11:15] <adit> so, i can't do anything with this?
[11:15] <amichair> I stick to apt-get, though kpk is really quite alright
[11:15] <valorie> I use apt-get if I know the packagename
[11:16] <moetunes> adit:  you  could use a newer desktop environment
[11:16] <valorie> but it's nice to be able to search
[11:16] <amichair> adit: if you can't change the resolution, and can't resize a window, and the window doesn't fit your resolution... I can't think of a solution
[11:16] <ts2> valorie: apt-cache is good for search ;)
[11:16] <valorie> eh, it's ok
[11:17] <ts2> it's not a whole lot different to what kpk does in the background
[11:17] <valorie> right
[11:20] <valorie> any reason in particular you are trying to run such an old KDE, adit?
[11:21] <adit> KDE4 run slowly in my pc
[11:21] <c0sminu> sorry i had a crash
[11:22] <c0sminu> how do i go back in time :P
[11:22] <c0sminu> on irc
[11:23] <rork> !logs | c0sminu
[11:24] <rork> but you'll probably have to wait a couple of hours for them to update
[11:25] <rork> adit: be sure your computer specs are ok, then check the system monitor for processes that use a lot of cpu/memory.
[11:25] <amichair> c0sminu: it doesn't look like you missed much
[11:28] <c0sminu>  :P thanks
[11:28] <amichair> i have a general q: is it always safe to upgrade packages, which may or may not require restart (of system or app), if I don't intend on performing said restart right afterwards?
[11:28] <amichair> or will the system enter some undefined state untill I do?
[11:28] <adit> rork: I have a little ram and my video card doesn't supported. i think, i it's better for me kde3 than kde4
[11:29] <mellow-bro> hey i have some problems, when i switch desktop and click a program, it seems to refresh in a blocky way and not all of it always will refresh, until i drag the program around
[11:29] <c0sminu> so theres other default packages repair or replace way than the grub way?
[11:32] <adit> but, beside of that, i love kde very much.
[11:34] <c0sminu> you guys say it's better to change to ubuntu ? i was into the small distro but i see that its better for the more stable
[11:38] <poyntz> can someone tell me why i cant install the latest wireless driver ~ http://pastebin.com/68QDrzMD
[11:40] <poyntz> http://pastebin.com/kmXuEkec ~ try this instead
[11:47] <rork> adit: maybe have a look at lubuntu/lxde, that's set up for low end systems you'll be able to install your favourite kde programs anyway.
[11:49] <moetunes> poyntz:  maybe you are missing some dependencies
[11:57] <poyntz> moetunes: do you know what they are?
[11:58] <moetunes> poyntz:  no idea at all sorry - check where you got the source
[12:11] <adit> rork: i have try lxde,xfce,and enlightment, but i still prefer kde, (and sometimes gnome).
[12:52] <poyntz> im looking for the latest driver for the Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD.. where could I find this?
[13:05] <james> hey
[13:06] <Guest49120> hey
[13:26] <amichair> i have a general q: is it always safe to upgrade packages, which may or may not require restart (of system or app), if I don't intend on performing said restart right afterwards? or will the system enter some undefined flaky state untill I do?
[13:28] <v3nd3tta``> lol i got a 1680x1050 60hz screen and a graphics card which supports that, and the screen sows it displays at 60hz but my screen settings say 50hz
[13:30] <sysop1> not bad I am stuck at 1280x800
[13:31] <sysop1> does anyone have a workaround for the multisync-tools issue yet? its been a couple of weeks and I really need to sync.
[13:47] <epimeth> hi guys, I just ran an update and my drivers disapeared
[13:47] <nerdy_kid> what drivers?
[13:47] <epimeth> specifically the nvidia and the wireless... tho for all I know it may be more
[13:48] <nerdy_kid> is the hardware working correctly?
[13:48] <nerdy_kid> (i.e. are the drivers working even though you cant see them in the list)
[13:48] <epimeth> I checked the hardware drivers application and saw that they were marked as "not installed" again.... tried installing and was told it failed and to check the jockey log:
[13:49] <epimeth> 2010-12-01 08:45:07,120 WARNING: modinfo for module wl failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module wl
[13:49] <epimeth> 2010-12-01 08:45:07,121 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver
[13:49] <nerdy_kid> forget jockey for now, does your wireless card work?
[13:49] <epimeth> The wireless is definitely not work... no wireless in the network manager
[13:49] <epimeth> lspci has it, tho
[13:50] <nerdy_kid> ok, I use the same driver for my card.
[13:50] <nerdy_kid> one sec
[13:50] <nerdy_kid> do you remember what was updated?
[13:51] <epimeth> heh... nope... lots of stuff... generic kernel, xorg, apache...... bunch of libs
[13:51] <epimeth> whatever was rolled out in the past week
[13:51] <nerdy_kid> hmm is this lucid you are running?
[13:52] <epimeth> maveric
[13:53] <epimeth> http://pastebin.com/dNqNEEwU
[13:54] <nerdy_kid> ok one sec
[13:54] <epimeth> nope... xorg was not upgraded
[13:54] <bushwakko> hey, I'm having some graphics problems in kde4
[13:54] <bushwakko> suddenly all effects is empty and I cannot select opengl, only xrender
[13:55] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:55] <bushwakko> any way to reset all that?
[13:55] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: already installed
[13:56] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: ok purge it and reinstall
[13:57] <amichair> bushwakko: maybe there's something wrong with your graphics driver as well?
[13:57] <bushwakko> might be
[13:58] <bushwakko> but still strange that all the compiz plugins are gone
[13:58] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: and then install through jockey or apt?
[13:58] <bushwakko> glxinfo says "direct rendering: Yes"
[13:59] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: run the command I gave you, or install it via synaptic it doesn't matter.  not jockey though, its easier to get any error messages with apt/synaptic
[13:59] <epimeth> ok I'll bbs.... notifier told me I should restart
[13:59] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: no
[14:00] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: dont restart yet....
[14:00] <epimeth> oh
[14:00] <epimeth> ok
[14:00] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: yeah one sec, dont restart quite yet
[14:00] <nerdy_kid> did the install go ok?
[14:00] <epimeth> ok, installed
[14:00] <epimeth> now restart?
[14:00] <nerdy_kid> no, is your wireless working again?
[14:01] <bushwakko> anyone know how to reset all the display jazz then?
[14:01] <nerdy_kid> it should work without a restart.
[14:01] <epimeth> nope
[14:01] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: do sudo modprobe wl
[14:01] <nerdy_kid> then see if it works
[14:01] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: dude it rebuild the kernel image, don't I have to restart to load it?
[14:01] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: Module wl not found
[14:02] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: you can restart if you want, but you dont need to.  it updated the initramfs, not the kernel.  the kernel can add/remove drivers in realtime.  trust me, I have messed with this card/driver a LOT
[14:03] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: I trust you :-)
[14:06] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: lol thanks, do ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko
[14:06] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: lolz.... somebody forgot to include kernel headers in the update
[14:09] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: did that command turn give you an error?
[14:13] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: dkms just reinstalled nvidiaand bcmwl... so, this time modprobe got the card working :-)
[14:14] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: ok cool, glad you got it working!
[14:14] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: sorry for the delay, btw... phone call... and I had told you the modprobe didn't work ... right after I asked if I should restart ;-)
[14:15] <nerdy_kid> np, I actually was referring to this command that you must've missed "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko", and if that didn't work then I was going for dkms next.  but no matter, glad you fixed it :)
[14:16] <epimeth> all right... I'm gonna put back my old xorg.conf and see if nvidia is working again
[14:17] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: heh, no... I just installed the kernel headers, didn't even check what you asked....
[14:18] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: you wouldn't happen to know where I can let the kubuntu packagers that they forgot a very important package?  I figure EVERYBODY'S system is broken now
[14:20] <nerdy_kid> epimeth: well I dont think they forgot it, as it was there.  the thing with kernel updates is that you usually need to you synaptic/apt-get to upgrade cause kpackagekit will only upgrade packages that don't require other packages to be removed -- "safe" upgrading it is called.
[14:21] <nerdy_kid> if you get a kernel upgrade you need to go a full upgrade, either "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or through synaptic
[14:26] <epimeth> nerdy_kid: no, the kernel headers weren't installed, just the kernel, otherwise apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) would not have installed them... and apt-get update did not mention the kernel headers waiting to be upgraded either...
[14:37] <legodude> anyone know of a good replacement for unison for general backup needs
[14:53] <amichair> i have a general q: is it always safe to upgrade packages, which may or may not require restart (of system or app), if I don't intend on performing said restart right afterwards? or will the system enter some undefined flaky state untill I do?
[16:37] <kernco> Whenever I reboot, desktop effects are suspended and I have to manually turn them back on.
[16:43] <sresu> How to logout running user account B from current user account A?
[17:34] <TBst> привет
[17:34] <TBst> всем
[17:34] <FloodBotK2> TBst: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <FloodBotK1> TBst: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <Pici> !ru | TBst
[17:38] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[18:28] <tripp> hey can anyone help me right quick?
[18:29] <tripp> hello?
[18:29] <silentstalker> hello?
[18:30] <silentstalker> hello? can anyone give me some help?
[18:30] <urgen> just ask
[18:31] <urgen> it works better that way, ppl are bizi so they take the time when they have it
[18:31] <urgen> otherwise you could ask and I'll be gone again already :-)
[18:31] <silentstalker> i just installed kubuntu 10.10 and im having problems with the wireless connection, the wired works fine
[18:31] <silentstalker> but when i put in the password for the wireless, it just keeps popping up as if the password is wrong
[18:45] <silentstalker> i just installed kubuntu 10.10 and im having problems with the wireless connection, the wired works fine
[18:45] <silentstalker> but when i put in the password for the wireless, it just keeps popping up as if the password is wrong
[18:49] <ubu_> halo
[19:03] <sunny_slls> hi everybody
[19:03] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: make sure that the key type is correct -- there are hex keys and passwords
[19:03] <sunny_slls> hey i was trying to restart the plasma-desktop
[19:04] <sunny_slls> when i got this segmentation fault error
[19:04] <sunny_slls> a bug report window came up saying to report the plasma-desktop crashing
[19:05] <nerdy_kid> sunny_slls: yeah those happen now and then
[19:05] <sunny_slls> nerdy_kid, i was building kdebase
[19:05] <sunny_slls> when it happened
[19:05] <nerdy_kid> sunny_slls: ah ok in that case I will shut up :D
[19:06] <sunny_slls> i restarted the plasma-desktop by running "kquitapp plasma-desktop" and then ran plasma-desktop
[19:06] <sunny_slls> and then it threw that error
[19:06] <silentstalker> nerdy_kid: ive done both, and it still pops up
[19:06] <silentstalker> i have not found a way to successfully connect to any wireless network
[19:07] <sunny_slls> why is it happening like that?
[19:07] <sunny_slls> any idea ?
[19:09] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: I would check how well supported your wireless card is
[19:10] <silentstalker> Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000
[19:12] <mdo-ollantaytamb> hola
[19:13] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: are you using 64bit?
[19:13] <mdo-ollantaytamb> #jion spain
[19:13] <silentstalker> 32 bit
[19:13] <mdo-ollantaytamb> join # spain ubuntu
[19:14] <andrew___> Hi
[19:15] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: and the network is using WEP?
[19:16] <silentstalker> yes
[19:17] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: would you happen to know whether the network you are trying to connect to is a wireless N network?
[19:18] <silentstalker> its a 2wire gateway
[19:19] <nerdy_kid> try these commands without quotes in a terminal:  "sudo modprobe -r iwlagn"  and then "modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=0"
[19:19] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: ^
[19:19] <nerdy_kid> im sorry, the second command should be "sudo modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=0"
[19:21] <silentstalker> on the second command i recieved this message
[19:21] <silentstalker> FATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.35-23-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlagn.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[19:22] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf" and tell me if it throws an error
[19:22] <the_cmdln> Can anyone answer a question about running Kubuntu 10.10 on a laptop?
[19:22] <the_cmdln> Specifically, how do I sleep my laptop if I am not logged in?  Closing the lid doesn't do it.
[19:23] <silentstalker> 1
[19:23] <silentstalker> FATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.35-23-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlagn.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[19:24] <silentstalker> oops
[19:24] <silentstalker> sorry wron part
[19:24] <silentstalker> ls: cannot access /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disablelln.conf: No such file or directory
[19:25] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: ok one last thing:  do "ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/" and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com and send me the URL
[19:27] <silentstalker> nerdy_kid  http://paste.ubuntu.com/538774/
[19:29] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: ok do sudo "mv /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf ~/Desktop" and reboot the computer, see if that fixes the wireless for you.
[19:32] <silentstalker> it says
 FATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.35-23-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlagn.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[19:32] <silentstalker> * TifrugoNelfrigo has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
 oops
 sorry wron part
[19:32] <FloodBotK2> silentstalker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 ls: cannot access /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disablelln.conf: No such file or directory
[19:32] <FloodBotK1> silentstalker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker:yeah you want to use pastebin....
[19:33] <silentstalker> mv: cannot stat `/etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disablelln.conf': No such file or directory
[19:33] <silentstalker> ^ thats what it says
[19:33] <silentstalker> lol
[19:33] <silentstalker> sorry bout that
[19:33] <nerdy_kid> np ;)
[19:34] <silentstalker> is that what its supposed to say?
[19:34] <nerdy_kid> it is intel-5300-iwlagn-disable   11   n.conf notice the 11 not ll. you should just be able to copy and paste the command I gave you into the terminal
[19:34] <silentstalker> oops
[19:34] <nerdy_kid> sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf ~/Desktop
[19:34] <nerdy_kid> that is the correct command
[19:35] <silentstalker> kk no error message so ima reboot
[19:35] <silentstalker> bbs
[19:35] <nerdy_kid> yup, good luck
[19:39] <the_cmdln> Anyone? How to get a laptop to sleep from KDM?
[19:41] <nerdy_kid> the_cmdln: you would probably want to post in the forum, I don't think the power manager is even running at that point.  probably requires a good knowlege of the configs.
[19:41] <nerdy_kid> could try #ubuntu too, just dont tell them its KDM -- just the login manager LOL
[19:42] <the_cmdln> GDM apparently exposes an option to invoke sleep.
[19:42] <silentstalker> hey nerdy kid
[19:42] <silentstalker> still nothing
[19:42] <the_cmdln> I'll try the forums.
[19:42] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: is the wireless card active?
[19:42] <silentstalker> yea i can select wireless networks but it gets stuck on the authorization
[19:42] <silentstalker> opens up the KDE daemon
[19:43] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: idk, I would give wicd a try: sudo apt-get install wicd-gtk
[19:44] <silentstalker> installing
[19:44] <nerdy_kid> other then that, I don't know sorry.  If wicd won't work either then I would create a thread on ubuntuforums
[19:44] <silentstalker> thanks for your help nerdy kid
[19:45] <nerdy_kid> silentstalker: np, I hope it works :)  I have noticed that kde's network manager can be really picky as to what networks it will connect too, so there is a chance that wicd will work.  good luck :)
[19:45] <silentstalker> thanks you for helpin bro
[19:54] <gher1941> does anyone know anything about digikam?
[19:58] <the_cmdln> gher1941: I use it for my photos.
[20:02] <gher1941> there is a dependency for it called 'expoblending' and evertime I try to run it I get this error:  This program is required to continue. Please install it from Hugin package provided by your distributor or download and install the source.
[20:02] <gher1941> Note: at least, align_image_stack version 0.8 is required.
[20:02] <gher1941> where can i download align_image_stack version 0.8?
[20:03] <gher1941> i've googled, looked, etc - can't find it
[20:03] <rua> hi
[20:03] <gher1941> hi
[20:04] <rua> i have a problem and tried all methods but i didn't
[20:05] <rua> i wanna change dns
[20:05] <sidracer> hi, how do i read xfs partition in kubuntu??
[20:06] <rua> i used that commands "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf"
[20:06] <rua> and wrote dns numbers
[20:07] <sidracer> anyone?
[20:08] <gher1941> also - unable to use 'export to flash' utility in digikam...it needs a program called 'simple viewer v1.9x' - any idea where to get that?
[20:08] <rua> when i tried to save that numbers, it says "you can't save, you have to root"
[20:08] <rua> do u help me?
[20:09] <gher1941> rua:  I usually edit my connection by right-click on network manager, select my connection, ......
[20:10] <rua> i didn't understand what u said
[20:10] <gher1941> click the edit button, under ip address select DHCP addresses only, input DNS and save....it will ask you for a password and then re-start connection
[20:11] <rua> ha i tried it
[20:11] <gher1941> what happened?
[20:11] <rua> but not changed
[20:12] <gher1941> so you already re-started your connection, etc.?
[20:13] <gher1941> what connection are you using?  ethernet, wireless or pppoe?
[20:13] <rua> wireless
[20:13] <gher1941> sidracer:  anyone what?
[20:15] <gher1941> rua: so you right-clicked on network manager and selected manage connections?
[20:16] <gher1941> are you using any special network manager or just the dfault that came with kubuntu?
[20:16] <xoma> how to install kde 4.6 beta on kubuntu?
[20:16] <rua> no
[20:16] <gher1941> no to which one?
[20:17] <rua> i select wireless
[20:18] <rua> and then ipv4 settings
[20:18] <rua> and selected only automatic adress
[20:18] <gher1941> xoma:  use this ppa at your own risk!!!!    pa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[20:19] <gher1941> *ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[20:19] <xoma> i used. nothing happened...
[20:19] <xoma> some packadges were updated? but my kde is still 4.5.3
[20:19] <rua> and than i wrote  dns servers
[20:20] <rua> there isn't any problem on that settings
[20:20] <gher1941> you put them in and seperated them with a comma?
[20:20] <rua> yes
[20:23] <gher1941> xome:  these are the complete instructions...you can't just apt-get'it.  you have to build from source:   http://techbase.kde.org/Build_KDE4.6_on_Kubuntu
[20:23] <gher1941> rua:
[20:23] <gher1941> you stopped, restarted connection after saving changes?
[20:27] <gher1941> rua:  try disabling the connection, making the corrections as root and then restarting connection
[20:27] <sysop1> wow the bluetooth support in 10.10 is greatly improved. I am able to use both my headseat and mouse with no problems.
[20:27] <rua> ty
[20:28] <sysop1> still cant sync anything, but baby steps
[20:28] <gher1941> rua:  np - i wish i could help more  :)
[20:28] <gher1941> sysop1:  really?  i'm going to give it a whirl....brb
[20:29] <sysop1> yea
[20:29] <sysop1> was using my bluetooth headset, I compeletly set it up throught the gui. in 9.04 I had it working but had to do alot of editing of files and such.
[20:30] <sysop1> the mouse gave me a little trouble till I realized I needed to trust it.
[20:30] <sysop1> but since then its been working perfectly.
[20:30] <gher1941> ok...plugged in bluetooth and icon is up
[20:31] <gher1941> so far so good
[20:32] <gher1941> ok - went to configure and made it always visible
[20:32] <sysop1> make sure you trust it.
[20:33] <sysop1> that gave me problems with my mouse till I did that. it would work fine for awhile but if it went into power save mode and I tried to use it again it wouldnt connect on its on again.
[20:33] <sysop1> but then I trusted it and it worked no problem.
[20:35] <sysop1> microcenter had thses bluetooth mice for $15 awhile back and I had to get one.
[20:35] <sysop1> its a little small but really precise.
[20:39] <rua> gher1941 thank u very much
[20:40] <rua> i changed dns on modem router
[20:40] <rua> it is ok now
[20:44] <blackxored> Hello guys, what's the default for kubuntu 10.10?
[20:45] <desdenova> hi mate. The default what for kubuntu ? :)
[20:45] <desdenova> channel?
[20:56] <moetunes> blackxored:  do you mean the default kde version?
[20:57] <blackxored> moetunes, no I want to want what's the default font
[20:57] <blackxored> It's ubuntu 9 for me but it was a mixed environment, if that's the same for you as well, i want you guys to recommend me one that looks better, such as droid sans for example
[20:59] <moetunes> I always use monospace...
[21:03] <gher1941> yo - sysop1
[21:04] <gher1941> it worked...the blue tooth stuff actually worked,,,lol.   that's a first
[21:08] <legodude> hi everyone, I'm running 64bit and want to install a copy of 10.10 32bit to an external drive, is there any special procedure?
[21:08] <legodude> and I'd rather not reboot to do it
[21:10] <legodude> I think debootstrap will do it, but I'm looking for something simpler
[21:22] <gher1941> legodude:  nada on this end
[21:23] <legodude> hrm
[21:23] <legodude> I tried putting the iso on a spare part with unetbootin
[21:23] <legodude> won't boot
[21:59] <fulvio> ciao
[22:00] <francois> hi everyone
[22:01] <francois> I'd like to know if anyone has managed to solve the issue with the raster graphic engine and kde openoffice integration ?
[22:01] <francois> at the moment it's crashing for me
[22:01] <francois> and i swear it used to work before upgrading to kde 4.5.3
[22:02] <francois> i've been looking at many bug reports and forums and the only "solution" seem to either use the native engine or remove the OO kde integration
[22:04] <Prisma> test
[22:27] <francois> does anyone know who's behind the code of openoffice.org-kde packages ?
[22:49] <Walzmy_> I'm running 10.04, we've got several kernel updates lately, that just seems odd for a LTS "stable" release
[22:52] <moetunes> not if the releases are bug fixes or security patches
[23:07] <jcgs> hi :) does anyone know if i can temporarily stop pulseaudio without uninstalling it - sudo service pulseaudio stop just makes it say "pulseaudio configured for per-user sessions" again :(
[23:09] <Rioting_Pacifist> jcgs: i don't know much about PA but what does service pulseaudio stop return (without the sudo)
[23:09] <jcgs> Rioting_Pacifist: same thing :( it just won't die
[23:11] <Rioting_Pacifist> if it's just a user process can you kill it using ctrl+esc or pkill ?
[23:11] <jcgs> Rioting_Pacifist: i tried using kill in the terminal, it just respawns with a higher pid, though
[23:12] <jcgs> Rioting_Pacifist: same thing with using crtl+esc
[23:13] <Rioting_Pacifist> if you use ctrl+esc in tree view what is spawning pa?
[23:14] <jcgs> init
[23:14] <jcgs> or, at least init is its parent
[23:18] <jcgs> Rioting_Pacifist: is that not normal?
[23:19] <nerdy_kid> jcgs: do a chmod -x on the pulseaudio binary.  that fixes it.
[23:19] <moetunes> maybe it respawns 'cause alsa is running
[23:19] <Rioting_Pacifist> i guess so i don't know much about PA,
[23:19] <jcgs> nerdy_kid: brutal, but like it :D
[23:19] <Rioting_Pacifist> moetunes: alsa doesn't run AFAIK
[23:20] <moetunes> k
[23:20] <nerdy_kid> jcgs: thanks :)  all the other solutions are messy and take to long.
[23:23] <jcgs> well that totally worked :)
[23:37] <Rioting_Pacifist> kde wont accept my password when the screen is locked :?
[23:39] <aDude> Caps-Lock on?
[23:42] <DarthFrog> Or were the CapsLock on when you set the password?
[23:42] <Rioting_Pacifist> nah i think it was my shadow file permisions, i use caps-lock as my compose key
[23:43] <kay-inge> sysinfo
[23:43] <kay-inge> Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path
[23:43] <kay-inge> System:    Host medionPC Kernel 2.6.35-23-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[23:43] <kay-inge> CPU:       Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (SMP) clocked at 2465.712 MHz
[23:43] <kay-inge> Graphics:  Card nVidia G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] tty res: 207x54
[23:43] <kay-inge> Disks:     HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (60.8% used)
[23:43] <FloodBotK2> kay-inge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <kay-inge> Info:      Processes 233 Uptime 1:18 Memory 1099.0/3022.1MB Runlevel 2 Client Quassel [M] v0.7.1 (dist-aa28596) inxi 1.4.8
[23:43] <FloodBotK1> kay-inge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <Rioting_Pacifist> I messed up my permisions, then i ran dpkg -i on my cache to reinstall everything i assumed it would fix the perms but it hasn't how can i fix this?
[23:45] <moetunes> Rioting_Pacifist:  what files have their permissions borked?
[23:46] <Rioting_Pacifist> moetunes: I don't know, can i verify what the permisions should be with dpkg?
[23:47] <moetunes> Rioting_Pacifist:  I would think   ls -l /path   would be the best option
[23:47] <moetunes> Rioting_Pacifist:  what did you change?
[23:48] <Rioting_Pacifist> moetunes: everything i messed up a chown -R , i changed everything back to root.root then reinstalled all my packages but its left /etc in a bit of a mess
[23:48] <Rioting_Pacifist> I can't manually verify all of /etc because i don't know what it should be
[23:51] <gher1941> sysinfo
[23:51] <moetunes> Rioting_Pacifist:  hoe /etc looks here - http://pastebin.com/uHzJYFNy
[23:53] <Rioting_Pacifist> moetunes: thanks, it looks like shadow is the only files that matters, btw your shadow passwords file is world readable which kind of defeats the purpose of it, did you do that or is that the default for ubuntu?
[23:54] <moetunes> Rioting_Pacifist:  must be the default for Archlinux - I'm on my multimedia box atm
[23:55] <traubisoda> hi
[23:56] <traubisoda> I'm looking for an OSX like dock for kubuntu which can be install from kubuntu repos. any suggestions?(kubuntu10.10)
[23:57] <traubisoda> installed*
[23:58] <Rioting_Pacifist> traubisoda: fancy-tasks , smoth tasks
[23:58] <moetunes> there's docky and awn and lots of others in kpackagekit
[23:58] <traubisoda> I'm using awn right now, but I can't open the preferences dialog (i guess because of the gnome depencies)