[05:34] <jamalta> Hi, I have Chrome as my preferred internet application, but links still seem to open in Firefox for some reason.
[05:34] <jamalta> Any tips on what I can do to debug this?
[07:57] <MTecknology> !info nginx natty
[09:30] <Hew> Does natty exist for UNE atm? I can't find any isos.
[09:53] <nperry> Hew: No, Desktop CD has unity as default.
[09:55] <Hew> nperry, is desktop replacing UNE for 11.04? or is this just temporary?
[09:56] <nperry> Nope replacing it.. UNE only had different window manager and chromium as default (iirc_
[09:57] <Hew> nperry, UNE never had chromium (for release anyway)
[09:57] <Hew> UNE is a different release..
[09:58] <nperry> Hew, couldn't remeber if it did ship with chromium. I know it was spoken about.
[10:00] <Hew> looks like you're right about no more UNE isos though, amazing! https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-bringing-desktop-and-netbook-image-closer
[10:29] <xnox_chrome> The last update has completly wiped my gnome-panel =(
[10:29] <xnox_chrome> and the latest gnome-panel update FTBFS
[10:29] <xnox_chrome> Luckly I have google-chromium to autostart that's all I have. (Well tty as well ;-) )
[11:35] <leagris> Hello, anyone noticed instabilities issues of compiz and ATI9200 with radeon driver since Natty?
[12:53] <geekosopher> I am trying to zsync the daily cd image by giving 'zsync -i natty-desktop-i386.iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync' is that correct
[13:04] <nperry> leagris: compiz seems to be very unstable at the moment with the unity plugin
[13:21] <charlie-tca> geekosopher, this is what what works for me : zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[13:23] <geekosopher> charlie-tca: this from the directory where the local iso is saved?
[13:23] <charlie-tca> yes
[13:23] <charlie-tca> sorry
[13:24] <geekosopher> charlie-tca: yes and sorry? i am confused
[13:27] <charlie-tca> should have said you have run from the download directory
[15:56] <BUGabundo> what's the "formal" way to install drivers, when jockey is broken? I would like to get free of nvidia blob, and back to nouveua
[15:57] <patdk-wk> reinstall :)
[15:57] <patdk-wk> I generally hack up xorg.conf myself, so not sure
[15:59] <charlie-tca> jockey-gtk or jockey-cli ? in a terminal
[15:59] <charlie-tca> not sure, though
[16:00] <BUGabundo> both
[16:00] <BUGabundo> I've filed it a while ago
[16:02] <charlie-tca> I don't think it is "formal", but http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Hardware/X/ProprietaryDrivers , Fallback Testing will do it
[16:03] <charlie-tca> It just makes for extra work getting it all working right again.
[16:42] <BUGabundo> 4th reboot
[16:47] <charlie-tca> but it worked?
[16:48] <BUGabundo> I've got full resolution now
[16:48] <BUGabundo> but no compiz
[16:48] <jpds> BUGabundo: You using Windows?
[16:48] <charlie-tca> You might have to install compiz and unity again
[16:49]  * BUGabundo slaps jpds
[16:49] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: not using unity
[16:49] <BUGabundo> classic desktop here
[16:49] <charlie-tca> well, smack me in the head, too
[16:50] <BUGabundo> $ compiz --replace --debug | tee compiz
[16:50] <BUGabundo> lets see
[16:50] <BUGabundo> compiz (core) - Debug: Could not stat() file /home/bugabundo/.compiz-1/plugins/libbailer.so : No such file or directory
[16:51] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/538710/
[16:52] <BUGabundo> any ideas what's missing ?
[16:52] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: I think I have the same problem as you and nope no clue what is missing
[16:53] <coz_> I didnt get that and I just installed it
[16:53] <BUGabundo> coz_: are you using windows ?
[16:53] <BUGabundo> :)
[16:53] <charlie-tca> I don't know.
[16:53] <coz_> BUGabundo,  :)
[16:54] <IdleOne> could this be nvidia related?
[16:54] <BUGabundo> I'm not using nvidia anymore
[16:55] <BUGabundo> logging out
[16:55] <IdleOne> maybe this upgrade to 2.6.37-7.19 will make a difference
[16:56] <charlie-tca> nouveau?
[16:56] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo, what video card?
[16:56] <BUGabundo> nvidia 8400mG
[16:57]  * charlie-tca thinks you can't have compiz without 3d
[16:57] <charlie-tca> nouveau doesn't support 3d, does it?
[16:57] <BUGabundo> time to put #ubuntu-x in autojoin
[16:57] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: it does
[16:57] <BUGabundo> I have it , I think
[17:03] <coz_> IdleOne,  mm smspillaz had an issue with his nvidia machine but he reported that it is a problem specific to his machine
[17:04] <IdleOne> will reboot when upgrade completes, I have high hopes it is going to just "work"
[17:05] <BUGabundo> IdleOne: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-173
[17:06] <BUGabundo> rebooting
[17:06] <nperry>  BUGabundo nouveau doesn't support 3d as default
[17:06] <BUGabundo> I know
[17:06] <IdleOne> I use nvidia-current
[17:06] <BUGabundo> libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[17:10] <BUGabundo> not yet
[17:10] <BUGabundo> darn it
[17:11] <andrew___> hi, i'm on natty live cd..i'm trying to remove ahci module with rmmod but it says that's in use.. but i have no mounted partitions..is there a way to remove it?
[17:16] <andrew___> or.. if it's simplier.. how to disable the hdd so i can remove the module easly?
[17:19] <andrew___> no idea?
[17:21] <IdleOne> andrew___: what version are you running?
[17:21] <andrew___> natty? daily build. kernel? 2.6.37-5-generic
[17:21] <IdleOne> ok, please don't ask natty questions in #ubuntu
[17:21] <IdleOne> also cross posting is ugh
[17:23] <andrew___> btw..
[17:23] <andrew___> well. that solution probably will work also here..and there are more people there that can help..
[17:23] <nperry> IdleOne: this is #ubuntu-+1
[17:23] <nperry> We can ask natty questions here
[17:23] <IdleOne> nperry: yes
[17:23] <andrew___> nperry: i've asked also in #ubuntu
[17:23] <IdleOne> but he also asked the same support question in #ubuntu
[17:23] <nperry> Ah my bad, will now shut up :)
[17:24] <IdleOne> hehe no problem
[17:24] <andrew___> IdleOne: btw, because i've a ahci module file that can support my hdd
[17:25] <IdleOne> andrew___: I don't know the answer to your question unfortunately
[17:25] <andrew___> so inserting on livecd lets me install on my hdd
[17:25] <andrew___> :( my bad..
[17:25] <andrew___> i'll wait tomorrow.. when alpha 1 will be released
[17:28] <andrew___> easier question :) where can i download the source from this kernel is built?
[17:28] <nperry> How come I can't aptitude change unity
[17:28] <nperry> Says doesn't exist :S
[17:29] <BUGabundo> it doesn't
[17:29] <BUGabundo> its not called like that
[17:29] <patdk-wk> you can't remove ahci, it's needed to access your harddrive
[17:29] <patdk-wk> so you need to tell your bios to disable ahci, then linux kernel won't use ahci, and it won't load
[17:31] <andrew___> patdk-wk: mmhh.. i've 2 hdd, one sata-2 and one sata-3...with patched ahci.c module i can see the sata-3.. if i disable the sata-2 (that can be used now) the ahci module will not be used right?
[17:32] <patdk-wk> no, it all has to do with your bios settings
[17:32] <andrew___> so i can unload ahci, insmod the new one and use the sata-3?
[17:32] <patdk-wk> oh, you want to use the new module vs the old one?
[17:32] <patdk-wk> going need a reboot
[17:32] <andrew___> right..to install on sata-3 hdd
[17:36] <andrew___> patdk-wk: i have no chanche to do that'
[17:50] <Pici> !schedule
[17:50] <linuxfreaker> When is Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 1 releasing?
[17:51] <linuxfreaker> IS it releasing on time?
[17:51] <andrew___> linuxfreaker: tomorrow
[17:51] <linuxfreaker> what time?
[17:51] <linuxfreaker> After how many hours...apprx?
[17:51] <andrew___> oh...i don't know..
[17:52] <andrew___> try on #ubuntu-devel
[17:52] <shcherbak> linuxfreaker: wanna be first?
[17:52] <linuxfreaker> yeah
[17:53] <linuxfreaker> First Person to download the Image :)
[17:53] <andrew___> me too :)
[17:53] <linuxfreaker> Does announcement and ISo download comes at the same time?
[17:54] <andrew___> does the new alpha come with this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-natty.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master-next ?
[17:54] <BUGabundo> andrew___: LOLOL
[17:54] <Pici> linuxfreaker: #ubuntu-devel won't help you with this.  It will be released when its done.
[17:54] <andrew___> i need that :)
[17:54] <Pici> When iso testing has completed.
[17:54] <BUGabundo> linuxfreaker: get a daily build
[17:55] <andrew___> BUGabundo: you know if it's included? :)
[17:55] <BUGabundo> no idea
[17:55] <andrew___> damn :(
[17:56] <linuxfreaker> andrew__:Is Ubuntu 11.04 coming up with two days back released 2.6.37-rc4
[17:56] <andrew___> is that a question?
[17:56] <linuxfreaker> andrew__: Just amazed to find that it contains 2.6.37-rc4
[17:57] <andrew___> well... i need this patch to see my hdd http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-natty.git;a=commit;h=238701fba4a491b8c97cd3bbe1083fedb530f7ed
[17:58] <linuxfreaker> andrew__:The link yu mentioned says that UBUNTU: re base to v2.6.37-rc4
[17:59] <andrew___> the 7th link is that patch.. and if it's included in alpha build i'll have that patch on it and i can install..either..no..
[18:00] <linuxfreaker> Yeah I talked to ubuntu-devel..they say its rc3
[18:00] <shcherbak> linuxfreaker: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.iso
[18:00] <andrew___> the alpha? so no patch?
[18:02] <linuxfreaker> shcherbak: I read that Ubuntu is not going to follow rolling release(daily releases)..how come the daily build comes in picture
[18:04] <shcherbak> linuxfreaker: i gues they like to compile often (that alpha is very often changed so instead of updated you have dailies )
[18:04] <shcherbak> linuxfreaker: more-less
[18:05] <andrew___> btw, i'll try to replace the module compiled with the same kernel version in the live cd.. :/ i hope that works
[18:06] <andrew___> i mean by hand in the casper boot image
[20:27] <BUGabundo> jockey is now fixed
[21:31] <histo> lagging hardcore or is there a netsplit going on?
[21:36] <guntbert> netsplit, histo
[22:02] <nperry> Would you say this is a bug/paper cut - not to sure if its reported
[22:03] <nperry> I've got two terminals open at the moment, #1 and #2. When I'm in #2 and swap to another window, say chromium, it defaults back to #1
[22:03] <nperry> Which is the first one i've open, not the last one was used.
[22:20] <leagris> nperry, yes noticed compiz is unstable. Hope this will be fixed. Compiz zoom is my best helper as a visually impaired (10% sight). As a temporary workaround i switched to 800x600 resolution. Guess what, even standard window layouts don't fit even 1024 pixels wide. :) Thanks and sorry for the very late answer.
[22:35] <yofel> errr, does firefox 4 install addon updates without asking? One of my addons suddenly started working again without me ever getting a notice of that...
[22:42] <vish> yofel: i think there is an auto-update option
[22:42] <vish> rather there is..
[22:42] <vish> yofel: you might have the addons update set to 'auto'
[22:43] <yofel> aaah, found it
[22:44] <yofel> I would have expected that to be in settings->updates and not in the addons page though...
[22:48] <vish> yofel: lol! i too realized just now that one of my addons just started working!
[22:48] <yofel> hehe
[22:50] <alex88_> alpha release? :)
[22:55] <sagaci> not yet
[23:02] <alex88_> i'm subscribed to ubuntu-devel mailing list..will be announced there?
[23:08] <yofel> alex88_: usually ubuntu-announce or ubuntu-devel-announce
[23:08] <alex88_> oh..thank you..
[23:08] <alex88_> both or just one?
[23:09] <alex88_> sorry.. i was on ubuntu-devel-announce
[23:09] <yofel> usually devel-announce
[23:10] <rww> just -devel-announce for alphas
[23:10] <alex88_> thank you all
[23:14] <dan2> alright guys
[23:14] <dan2> I've rm -rf ~/.gnome*
[23:14] <dan2> rm -rf ~/.gconf*
[23:14] <dan2> reset the panels
[23:14] <dan2> but the window manager isn't firing up
[23:14] <dan2> and there are no panels
[23:14] <BUGabundo> dan2: unity or classic?
[23:14] <dan2> I would like to try unity
[23:15] <dan2> I was on whatever came with maverick
[23:15] <charlie-tca> Are you on hardware or VM?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> .compiz-1 and .config/compiz-1 ?
[23:15] <dan2> BUGabundo, asking if they exist?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> if you removed them
[23:15] <dan2> .compiz* has already been wiped
[23:18] <dan2> BUGabundo, what next?
[23:18] <BUGabundo> reboot?
[23:18] <BUGabundo> or at least
[23:18] <BUGabundo> log out and make sure u are in unitu
[23:18] <BUGabundo> *unity
[23:18] <dan2> I've restarted gdm more than a dozen times
[23:18] <dan2> usually that's effective at killing X
[23:18] <dan2> and logging out
[23:18] <dan2> how do I explicitly set my session to be unity or something?
[23:19] <BUGabundo> in the bottom
[23:19] <dan2> I have autologin turned on
[23:19] <BUGabundo> ehe
[23:21] <dan2> ok disabled auto login
[23:21] <dan2> clicked using desktop edition
[23:21] <dan2> brings me back to same crap
[23:21] <dan2> safe mode works
[23:22] <dan2> ok, so why does safe mode work, but regular desktop edition not work?
[23:39] <coz_> dan2,  what i did was download and burn the unity daily build...it is working fine  other than the expected and unexpected bugs :)
[23:40] <dan2> coz_, ok, how do I see the grub menu if it's hidden?
[23:40] <dan2> I just did an upgrade
[23:40] <dan2> and now everything is jacked
[23:40] <coz_> mmm
[23:41] <coz_> I would assume the same way with regular ubuntu...hit the "shift" key I believe when it starts booting... I havent tried it though
[23:42] <dan2> coz_, that doesn't work
[23:42] <coz_> dan2,  mm  hold on
[23:42] <dan2> now I'm in an endless reboot cycle
[23:44] <dan2> good ol upgrades
[23:44] <dan2> definitely tost
[23:44] <dan2> toast
[23:45] <coz_> dan2,  let me try to get to the grub menu on my unity machine hold on
[23:46] <dan2> I think grub is fried on the hard drive
[23:46] <Jordan_U> dan2: Hold shift during boot to see the grub menu.
[23:46] <dan2> I'll either A) have to repair it somehow
[23:46] <dan2> B) just reformat this thing and start over
[23:51] <coz_> dan2,  can you get into text console at all?
[23:52] <dan2> coz_, negative
[23:52] <dan2> it's fucked
[23:53] <dan2> I put in a super grub recovery disk
[23:53] <dan2> it found the kernel
[23:53] <dan2> found the initrd
[23:53] <dan2> but don't know the parameters for kernel
[23:55] <Jordan_U> !language | dan2
[23:55] <Jordan_U> dan2: Super GRUB2 Disk should pass the correct kernel parameters automatically.
[23:57] <dan2> Jordan_U, I'm pretty sure the terminology and language I used was accurately descriptive of the upgrade and what it did to my machine
[23:57] <dan2> does unetbootin create super grub disk or super grub2 disk
[23:57] <dan2> I used whatever was in that list
[23:57] <Jordan_U> dan2: While it may have been accurate it was also innapropriate for this channel.
[23:58] <coz_> dan2,   here holding down left shift button during boot worked
[23:58] <Jordan_U> dan2: Super GRUB Disk (1)
[23:59] <dan2> ok
[23:59] <dan2> I got it booted in some state or another
[23:59] <dan2> how do I get it to fix the grub installation